Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

2013-08-12 Thread G Mann
A quick tip: If you have access to a metal lathe, or someone who does, take the broken bolt to the lathe and drill a pilot hole through the head and the body of the broken section of the bolt. Use your best judgement as to the size of the pilot drill hole, doesn't have to be large but should be

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

2013-08-12 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:50 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I also suggest the use of Left turn drill bits for the last two or three size increases in the pilot hole.. sometimes the drill pressure will walk the broken part right out as you drill it. What he said. Also, I have had pretty

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

2013-08-12 Thread Greg Fiorentino
/extractor bits that I plan to use once the pilot hole(s) are drilled. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt- UPDATE A quick

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead perhaps

2013-08-04 Thread Fmiser
Michael wrote: Interesting, I have never seen a w123 dash with English measurements. Thought they were all Metric. I think the pre-1981 have Imperial units for the temp and pressure. All believe US models have Imperial speedometer. This is based on my observations. Most of my 123s are

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead perhaps

2013-08-04 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Don't know, even with the auto I kept lowering the window and wondering why we are not moving. Hendrik who has a manual Diesel On 04/08/13 01:28, Mountain Man wrote: Hendrik wrote: Hendrik who still has fond memories of the mao mobile I should have let you use the 3-pedal car. Immensely

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead perhaps

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Considering what those nut jobs who find an tidy up old Merc Diesels are charging, that is not too way out there. Looks pretty original. Hendrik who still has fond memories of the mao mobile On 03/08/13 08:26, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: A customer of mine is trying to sell a 77 240D on

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead perhaps

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Canfield
Interesting, I have never seen a w123 dash with English measurements. Thought they were all Metric. Mike On Aug 3, 2013 6:15 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Considering what those nut jobs who find an tidy up old Merc Diesels are charging, that is not too way out there. Looks

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead perhaps

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote: Hendrik who still has fond memories of the mao mobile I should have let you use the 3-pedal car. Immensely more memorable. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-02 Thread Michael Esh
Is it normal to have 3 washers on this bolt? mike On Aug 1, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Hi All: My son was driving his 3-pedal 1980 240D ( with about 300K mi.) yesterday when the car began to run warm. Suddenly he heard a loud PLINK, and something falling out of the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt Is it normal to have 3 washers on this bolt? mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-02 Thread Jim Cathey
I wondered the same when I first saw it, but found pictures of MB crank bolts online that also had them. Does anyone know why they do this? They are Belleville (?) washers. Not flat, they are hardened springs. Stack 'em for more spring travel! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-02 Thread Michael Canfield
Yep. They are what is supposed to keep the bolt from getting loose as the engine goes through different temps. Mike On Aug 2, 2013 1:00 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I wondered the same when I first saw it, but found pictures of MB crank bolts online that also had them. Does

[MBZ] 240D crackhead

2013-08-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
A customer of mine is trying to sell a 77 240D on consignment. The car looks pretty clean, no rust etc. Has actual leather which I have not seen on a 240D but the drivers seat is cracked etc. He wants $4k for it. Dealer knows the guy is on crack. I told him to tell his seller I might be

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead

2013-08-02 Thread Gary Hurst
calling it a 240td and advertising it as having 5 cylinders turns me off almost as much as the price. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: A customer of mine is trying to sell a 77 240D on consignment. The car looks pretty clean, no rust etc. Has actual

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead

2013-08-02 Thread dseretakis
Was thinking the same. Does look clean though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: calling it a 240td and advertising it as having 5 cylinders turns me off almost as much as the price. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead

2013-08-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That is because my dumbass employee put the data in wrong. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2013, at 8:19 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Was thinking the same. Does look clean though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: calling it a

[MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Hi All: My son was driving his 3-pedal 1980 240D ( with about 300K mi.) yesterday when the car began to run warm. Suddenly he heard a loud PLINK, and something falling out of the engine compartment. Then the engine overheated and he began to lose coolant. The following very large (18mm

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
Hi All: My son was driving his 3-pedal 1980 240D ( with about 300K mi.) yesterday when the car began to run warm. Suddenly he heard a loud PLINK, and something falling out of the engine compartment. Then the engine overheated and he began to lose coolant. The following very large (18mm

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread OK Don
As well as the pulley that drives all the belts, hence no water pump, fan, alternator, AC, power steering, etc. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All: My son was driving his 3-pedal 1980 240D ( with about 300K mi.) yesterday when the car began to

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Fmiser
Greg wrote: http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Aside from running very hot the engine seems to run normally. Does any of you have an idea what happened and where this bolt came from? Dieselhead wrote: Crankshaft bolt. Holds the vibration damper on the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Sheared off. On Aug 1, 2013 1:58 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Greg wrote: http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Aside from running very hot the engine seems to run normally. Does any of you have an idea what happened and where this bolt came from?

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Dieselhead wrote: Crankshaft bolt. Holds the vibration damper on the crankshaft. I was thinking (but hoping not) that would not only be the only fastener as large as that, but that would also account for the poor cooling. It sounds like

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Richard Hattaway
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt Greg wrote: http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Aside from running very hot the engine seems to run normally. Does any of you have an idea what happened and where this bolt came from

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Dieselhead wrote: Crankshaft bolt. Holds the vibration damper on the crankshaft. I was thinking (but hoping not) that would not only be the only fastener as large as that, but that would also account for the poor cooling. It sounds

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
Unless the key is sheared and the pulley is slipping. If this is the case, a good fix is a new engine. A chancy fix is epoxy. The keyway in the crank is normally destroyed in this case. So sad. IF the bolt was loose and the damper chattered around, you are correct. In my case, the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Richard Hattaway
Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Dieselhead wrote: Crankshaft bolt.  Holds the vibration damper on the crankshaft. I was thinking (but hoping not) that would

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Richard Hattaway
in a manner that makes the owner love it (c: .. Richard From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt Unless the key is sheared and the pulley

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt http://my.opera.com/gfior/albums/show.dml?id=14664462 Dieselhead wrote: Crankshaft bolt. Holds the vibration damper on the crankshaft. I was thinking (but hoping not) that would not only be the only fastener as large as that, but that would

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt Unless the key is sheared and the pulley is slipping. If this is the case, a good fix is a new engine

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Greg Fiorentino wrote: A chancy fix is epoxy. How about (if the key is sheared) braze or hard silver solder a new key onto the crankshaft? Or use some super-duper Loctite on the key as well as the pulley/crankshaft joint? I suspect these would be stronger in a small gap than epoxy. I read

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/08/2013 2:18 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote: You can do it with everything in place. It's not a bad job actually, but I think you may need to make a tool or two. I don't remember the actual torque value, but it's in the 400 pound-foot range. First off you'll have to pull the whole mess

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
My buddy's Honda chewed the slot up to a round dent in the crank. Hard to do, I thought. Figured it'd chip out. But it rounded out the crank and chewed up the damper. Now we have the difference between a ricer and a stately Mercedes.. the Mercedes has enough common decency to fail in a

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
We made one when we pulled the bolt on the old 4Runner last summer to replace the head gaskets etc. Basically a steel plate with a hole in the middle to put the socket on the rattle gun through and smaller holes to bolt to the dampener in the spots intended for the bolts that hold the pulley

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
Vib damper on my '80 240D was poorly secured with 5 or 6 smaller bolts; some came out; others sheared; damper and pulley finally came off and dropped SWMBO on road; long distance truck driver gave her lift to a phone. 'Think the car had about 60 kmi then - my second MB disappointment; first

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Dieselhead
What would cause this failure? Fatigue Bolt torque/stretched too far? probably not, but possible If a repair is possible (key NOT sheared or keyway usable) is this likely to happen again? maybe after another 200k miles plus, or if the new bolts are not as good as the old ones.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/08/2013 4:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote: We made one when we pulled the bolt on the old 4Runner last summer to replace the head gaskets etc. Basically a steel plate with a hole in the middle to put the socket on the rattle gun through and smaller holes to bolt to the dampener in the spots

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:19:16 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I have no idea what the recommended torque value is. I was just commenting on the ealier post that suggested 400 ft #. Well, it's high, but it is not 400 ft-lb, which will indeed break things. IIRC, it's something

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread WILTON
Craig, how's your healing going? Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:19:16 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Frederick Moir
According to Haynes :- 270-330 Nm or 199-244 Ft-lbs.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
The book says 270-330 Nm (200-244 ft lb). http://pt709.synology.me/03-340.pdf -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt

Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt????

2013-08-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
this progresses. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 4:06 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Mystery Bolt The book says 270-330 Nm (200-244 ft lb). http://pt709

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-14 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 1:15 PM -0700 7/13/13, Curt Raymond wrote: Then I found a pivot point that also levers out in the wrong direction. I guess it needs a new bushing. Had a similar issue with a 450SEL once, but I made the discovery whilst broken down on the side of the interstate. I wound up putting a

[MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond
So I've been keeping quiet about this because I didn't want to jinx myself but last weekend I retorqued the head bolts on my '78 240D. You'll remember thats the one where the exhaust was blowing the coolant back out of the engine. Some of the bolts were still tight but some needed a little

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread OK Don
ATTABOY!!! This is a manual tranny car isn't it? If so, the spring loaded thing in the accelerator linkage is to help prevent bunny hops when starting from a dead stop - usually a problem for those not accomplished at driving a standard, IIRC. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread Craig
On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: With no new bushing to put in but lots of pedal travel that doesn't do anything (the first 1/8 of travel accomplishes nothing) I adjusted the other linkages so that now the lever at the IP goes all the way to the

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY acomin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D success! So I've been keeping quiet about this because I didn't want to jinx myself but last weekend

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D success! ATTABOY!!! This is a manual tranny car isn't it? If so, the spring loaded thing in the accelerator linkage

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread Curt Raymond
back I'll spend some time looking into the bushing on that pivot... -Curt Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 14:45:02 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D success! Message-ID: 20130713144502.219065d9050e046f07d4b...@pisquared.net

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread Dieselhead
ATTAboy! Those linkages are not complex, but if the bellcrank bushing under the intake manifold is worn, your go pedal won't make it go! So I've been keeping quiet about this because I didn't want to jinx myself but last weekend I retorqued the head bolts on my '78 240D. You'll remember

Re: [MBZ] 240D success!

2013-07-13 Thread dseretakis
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D success! Message-ID: 20130713144502.219065d9050e046f07d4b...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud

[MBZ] 240D

2013-07-12 Thread Randy Bennell
1980 240D - chocolate brown with white - (parchment?) upholstery manual transmission and hand crank windows advertised locally with about 235K miles on it photos look nice no mention of AC so that might be bad news reasonable price? ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond
suspect I could still sell my 240D (once the head/headgasket issue is worked out) for $1000, I suspect my 190D is now around $3k (I paid $250). -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:37:34 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-11 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 8:29 PM -0700 7/10/13, clay wrote: Yes. Sorry for the late reply. I did the job on Gump and the stalk stayed put. I have a trio of stalks that are almost tight, but slip at times. A tiny filing at the ends and the middle stops to make it more defined will help. Just be careful to not

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-10 Thread clay
Yes. Sorry for the late reply. I did the job on Gump and the stalk stayed put. I have a trio of stalks that are almost tight, but slip at times. A tiny filing at the ends and the middle stops to make it more defined will help. Just be careful to not go too far, as then the stalk gets stuck

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-05 Thread Dieselhead
So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Somebody once told me that it takes more like 1000A to crank one of these diesels over, if it's on the cold side. -- Jim When I

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-05 Thread WILTON
- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-05 Thread Fmiser
Dieselhead wrote: Moral of the story: Put a new battery in you Diesel ever few years. take the old one and put it in the 107 SL or some other gasser where it can live out its old age. About the only diesel left in my fleet is the lawnmower. I guess I could rig a battery box for it, though

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-05 Thread Gerry Archer
Drove into Autozone with a dead battery around 8:30 pm, turned off engine, and went inside to buy a new one. The two sweet young ladies would not install a new one because it was dribbling rain off and on. I asked for a jump and they brought out a small hand-held battery pack. I said I

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-03 Thread Michael Canfield
Ok. I was thinking about CLP...not LPS..CLP is for guns and such. We don't have LPS here. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 11:34 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Michael wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it eligible to have the detents filed? Yes, so far as I know. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
But WD-40 is not a lubricant. But it sure acts like one. I think of it more as a very slow-set glue. I used ATF, and used the vacuum source to slurp it up into the cable sheath and all the way through. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Somebody once told me that it takes more like 1000A to crank one of these diesels over, if it's on the cold side. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread dseretakis
There were lights with charger connected but I guess the battery was so dead that it was robbing the current from the car. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread dseretakis
That makes sense. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Somebody once told me

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread dseretakis
You want to file the detents or depressions in order to once again allow the pin to nestle in place without popping out. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
You want to file the detents or depressions in order to once again allow the pin to nestle in place without popping out. And go easy! The difference between stays in the detent now and won't come out of the detent now is only a stroke or two of the file. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Try spraying it in an adding machine, clock, etc. Wait a month or six. Then buy another clock. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
It does goop up. Provides an excellent protective barrier for non-moving parts. Not so good on moving parts as it collects dust and dirt and goops up into a oily paste. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I suppose, if the applied-to thing does not need to move --R On 7/2/13 12:26 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: 51d2fe59.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it  evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time.  My  in-laws are quite

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Randy Bennell
. -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:22:49 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: 51d2fe59.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: 51d31fe1.9060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I also wonder if it is better to use the WD40 in the liquid state rather  than aerosol cans of it. Randy On 02/07/2013 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread Dieselhead
Shoulda seen the looks Toni used to get jumping the solenoid on our old 240d with a big allen wrench. Nuttin hotter than a cute chick under the hood of a German car...lol Mike I used a big long screwdriver for a long time. However i moved up to a 18 length of 1/2 copper tubing. that

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Scott Ritchey
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread OK Don
What Jim said! BTDT! On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: And go easy! The difference between stays in the detent now and won't come out of the detent now is only a stroke or two of the file. -- Jim -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG,

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Benz Hogs
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
@**okiebenz.commercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Dan Penoff
http://wd40.com/about-us/myths-legends-fun-facts/ If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood. Dan On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The MSDS states between 47 and 58% Aliphatic hydrocarbon. That does not say exactly what it is. It COULD vey well be fish oil

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread OK Don
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Parafin ? That's what I've heard was in it. A typwriter repairman once told me that he could always tell when someone had sprayed WD40 in their Selectric -- Was he British? Paraffin is BE for kerosene. Alex

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread ernest breakfield
in my experience with bicycles, i don't use WD40 for anything except cleaning stuff off; things that need a lube get a light oil. WD40 is a Water Dispersant, not a lube. if you don't get it all off, it becomes a dirt magnet. cheers! e On 02/Jul/13 09:14, Randy Bennell wrote: On

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino
in these reactions. Fish oil is not classed as an aliphatic hydrocarbon. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Right

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Fmiser
Michael wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Wow. Bold statement, especially without specifying _which_ LPS product. LPS3 is a waxy oil stuff that is very good at protecting

[MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that!

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID:     CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop

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