Re: [MBZ] 240d Clutch Cylinder was Re: Something Stupid

Look around for folks that sell them... broker a deal with them to come and install yours, and fix anything it needs... If you have space in your shop for a 4 post lift and a two post lift get one of each you will be glad you have them. It is amazing how easy it becomes to do exhaust.. or

Re: [MBZ] 240d Clutch Cylinder was Re: Something Stupid

Yea, I am sure I will wonder why I didn’t get off my lazy rear and do it years ago. I’m still not positive if it works for not. Supposedly it does but bought it used. Would also like to get a 2 post lift fairly soon as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2020, at 4:45 PM, G Mann via

Re: [MBZ] 240d Clutch Cylinder was Re: Something Stupid

Kaleb, Yes, clamp off the line to the clutch master to keep from a big mess when you disconnect the clutch master. Replace both slave and master, then, open supply line. And... get that damn car lift up and working hire somebody to install it... you will up your volume of work by geometric

Re: [MBZ] 240d Clutch Cylinder was Re: Something Stupid

I think I would just bleed it out by removing the slave cylinder, then crack the connection to the master to allow air in.  Remove the carpet from the driver footwell if you can, put some rags inside to catch any drips. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 3, 2020 5:28:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] 240d Clutch Cylinder was Re: Something Stupid

I just figured it would be an attention grabbing subject and would get lots of answers. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > There. I fixed it. Now perhaps you will get some intelligent response. > > Rick > > > > Original Message

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Max Dillon via Mercedes writes: > The idea of that hook is, I think, to engage the clutch so the clutch > disk is not touching the fly wheel or pressure plate, so they can't > rust together. Yes, in that situation it makes sense. I misread earlier. Allan

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

The problem is the clutch plate rusting and freezing to the pressure plate and flywheel. Depending on location it is not unusual for tractors to set idle for many months. On Mon, May 18, 2020, 11:28 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > > > Many tractors have

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

The idea of that hook is, I think, to engage the clutch so the clutch disk is not touching the fly wheel or pressure plate, so they can't rust together. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 18, 2020 5:17:07 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes : > I may have misunderstood, on first read I thought he was

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

I may have misunderstood, on first read I thought he was saying you could hook the clutch pedal down while the tractor was idling for a long time. But to hook it down while the tractor *is idle* (i.e. not running) is probably what was meant, now that I read it again, and that makes more sense

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Neutral is a transmission internal condition.  Clutch in or out is at the fly wheel / clutch disc / pressure plate, which is between engine and transmission. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 18, 2020 11:28:22 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes : > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > Many tractors have a hook to hold the clutch pedal in the down > position and disengage the clutch during long-idle periods. These, of > course, have mechanical linkages. Why not just put it in neutral and save the wear on the throwout bearing? Allan

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

> Many tractors have a hook to hold the clutch pedal in the down position... Or a hand-operated clutch, like the Minneapolis Moline. You could tie a rope to it, and yourself, so that if you fell off the back it'd stop the machine. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

es > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:03 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: OK Don > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch > > Ah - true! I'd forgotten that little detail. > > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:40 AM MG via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > If

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Ah - true! I'd forgotten that little detail. On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 10:40 AM MG via Mercedes wrote: > If the car hasn't been used for a long time it may be > that the disk is rusted to the flywheel. That has > happened more then once on some cars I have had. > > If you can start it in gear you

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

If the car hasn't been used for a long time it may be that the disk is rusted to the flywheel. That has happened more then once on some cars I have had. If you can start it in gear you should be able to break it loose by sudden acceleration deceleration while holding the clutch down. MG

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

> OK wrote: > ah, grasshopper. Did no one teach you to drive a manual without > a clutch?? > You have to "match shift" going up and down the gears - match > the engine speed as closely as you can to the next gear - With the synchromesh it's easy. The shifter won't move into the next gate

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

> learned to drive without a clutch - just in case. I've done it, in the Falcon. Also learned to drive without brakes! (That one, 'live'.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

PS - all my kids who learned to drive a manual tranny (3 of the 4) learned to drive without a clutch - just in case. No sense being stranded somewhere because you don't know how to drive it ... On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 6:51 PM OK Don wrote: > ah, grasshopper. Did no one teach you to drive a

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Last time a 240D didn’t switch into gear for me it was a slave cylinder. Cheap and easy repair. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea but in this case noting does happen, can’t shift it into gear. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

ah, grasshopper. Did no one teach you to drive a manual without a clutch??? It can be done, but requires a good battery and starter. You basically start the car in gear - 1st of reverse as desired. You can pop it out of gear with little throttle applied, and stop with the brakes as usual. You have

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

So basically I need to get under the car and open the bleed screw while having somebody push the pedal to see if I get pressure? I assume it I do then they points to dead slave cylinder. If not then dead master cylinder? Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Max Dillon via

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Yea but in this case noting does happen, can’t shift it into gear. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > When the clutches are really good, pressing the pedal does feel like > nothing is connected. If the pedal comes back up when you

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

When the clutches are really good, pressing the pedal does feel like nothing is connected. If the pedal comes back up when you push it down, that’s a really good sign. Jaime On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 5:07 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Got this 81 240D moved

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

I'd guess the slave cylinder is dead.  When you press the pedal in, do you get pressure (fluid output) at the slave bleeder?  If yes, the slave cylinder is probably dead. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 16, 2020 5:07:28 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > Got this 81 240D moved into the shop

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

I don’t have much experience with Mercedes clutches, but if the pedal moves up and down without resistance I would assume the clutch cylinder is toast. -D > On May 16, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Btw I saw no evidence of any leaks either. > > Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] 240D rehab/clutch

Btw I saw no evidence of any leaks either. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Got this 81 240D moved into the shop and jacked up. I examined the underside > and discovered it’s going to need all the typical 123 front end work. Will > need ball

Re: [MBZ] 240D 4spd not half bad

Plus it has PW and is wrapped in an attractive enrobement of Colorado beige paint On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 9:37 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/628910404628613/ > > 1984 Mercedes 240D > Chapin, SC· about a day ago > < >

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

> Kaleb wrote: > Can you bleed the clutch with a pressure bleeder like I use for > the brakes? I don't know. The slave cylinder is very much at the bottom. I'm pretty sure I just used my rig to pump brake fluid in through the bleeder screw. ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

> Curley wrote: > Is that the low pressure hose from the reservoir to the master? Yes. > The high pressure hose should be more like a brake hose.  I > can't imagine the high pressure hose being an accordion. Yeah, I would not call the pressure line a "hose"! > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote on

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Should work fine. Max Dillon Charleston SC Mar 1, 2020 10:54:00 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > Can you bleed the clutch with a pressure bleeder like I use for the brakes? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >  > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Can you bleed the clutch with a pressure bleeder like I use for the brakes? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > >  > Philip, I had a slave cylinder fail on a 190D, and there was no visible leak. > I think just like a brake master cylinder,

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Philip, I had a slave cylinder fail on a 190D, and there was no visible leak. I think just like a brake master cylinder, one failure mode is bad cup seal, so leak is internal. Refill the system, check for leaks, if none the check for pressure at the slave cylinder when the pedal is pushed.

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

When I looked up 003 997 12 52  it is the low pressure hose.   I found a note on PP forum that this is more like the original low pressure hose. N203501 - VW Braided Brake Hose, 7mm ID, Per Foot So, apparently something like the

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Is that the low pressure hose from the reservoir to the master? The high pressure hose should be more like a brake hose.  I can't imagine the high pressure hose being an accordion. fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 3/1/20 4:03 AM: TRW part number 555-33011-381 I had to grind 3 mm off the end of

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

> Curley wrote: > If it were mine and I was gonna drive it, I'd buy a new master, > slave and hose. My notes are: TRW part number 555-33011-381 I had to grind 3 mm off the end of the short rod to make a TRW work. DON'T BUY TRW. FTE I got from AutohauseAZ had both rods. It seems typically the

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

> Kaleb wrote: > This 240D I just picked up has a dead clutch.  As in, it just > goes straight to the floor. The car is useless. I'll take it off your hands 'cause I'm such a nice guy. [smiles] > I have never dealt with clutch issues before. Does the master > and slave cylinders need to be

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

That said, it may be the slave that went south.    But chances are 50/50 that since then, the master has gotten rusty and won't survive...   Depends on how new the fluid was, how high the humidity was, etc., etc. Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes February 29, 2020 at

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

The parts are fairly cheap so might be a good idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 29, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it were mine and I was gonna drive it, I'd buy a new master, slave and > hose. (and maybe even the tube.) Change em all, filler up, bleed er

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

If it were mine and I was gonna drive it, I'd buy a new master, slave and hose.  (and maybe even the tube.)  Change em all, filler up, bleed er out, (or better yet filler up from the bottom, eliminating the need to bleed.) and not have to think about it for a LNG time.   As a flipper,

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Three possibilities: Low fluid from a slave cylinder leak (brakes work fine) Bad clutch cylinder so no pressure to operate clutch Bad slave cylinder (also low fluid but at the transmission end, not a brake line or caliper) or leaking line ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

The PO said it did it before and he took it somewhere and they cleaned something out and it worked fine. He then went to drive it and it suddenly did not work again. Just goes to the floor with no resistance but comes right back up. Will get it into the shop and get under and see what the deal

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 02:27:14 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Either slave or master cylinder is probably leaking. Master will drip > in the foot well, look for a stain. Slave can fail with no visible leak. If the master cylinder is leaking, the brake fluid can damage the floor mat.

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Either slave or master cylinder is probably leaking. Master will drip in the foot well, look for a stain. Slave can fail with no visible leak. Max Dillon Charleston SC Feb 29, 2020 9:19:12 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes : > Start by checking fluid levels in master & look for leaks in slave >

Re: [MBZ] 240D clutch

Start by checking fluid levels in master & look for leaks in slave cylinders. Top it off & see. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 9:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This 240D I just picked up has a dead clutch. As in, it just goes > straight

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

The biggest thing which impacts performance of an automatic 240D is proper transmission functionality. If the shifts come too early, which is really common with cars that have not been tuned by someone who knows what they're doing, the car will be significantly handicapped. If you can hit the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

> Don wrote: > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. > I'm not sure that is safe to be on the highway! Only dangerous if you try to drive it like a "high powered" car. It's faster than a school bus, faster than a loaded truck from 10 to 18+ wheels. Why, it's faster than most fire

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Not dangerous but challenging. I commuted 140 miles a day 2 or 3 days a week for 4 years in my 79 240D automatic, much of it on I95 south of Boston. First thing is to chant "Gravity is my friend" & drive it like a bicycle. I described mine as a great middle lane car-~75 mph. I had 2 scary

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

My father had an '83 240D, it was actually decent in my opinion. Not the fastest car on the road, but more than adequate, as long as you weren't in a big hurry. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Yes, but  . . . . I believe Curt has also commented on the age and rustiness of the vehicle at times. I should think 85 mph should be fast enough in traffic in a car of questionable structural integrity. Randy On 07/10/2019 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I believe he was

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Randy, I believe he was driving in Boston traffic, where that is far from the top speed on the interstate… -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Some days I was leading the pack, some days I was mid pack, some days I had to move over into the center lane... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 4:19:38 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >  I can confirm 86mph as the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

I had a Mustang rental once, it'd have been 2010 or so. I'd been on the road for 3 weeks and Angie had flown out to meet me. We were in San Francisco of all places to get that car.My big rolling bag wouldn't fit in the trunk and the seats didn't give ample space to get it in the back seat. So

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. When I was commuting in a 240D there was a 15 mile stretch of highway where I'd put 'er in the left lane with my right foot on floor and leave it there at 85. No hills in that section...

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. When I was commuting in a 240D there was a 15 mile stretch of highway where I'd put 'er in the left lane with my right foot on floor and leave it there at 85. No hills in that section... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 12:30:23 PM EDT,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 10:33:06 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The 240D automatic we had for a short time was just about the slowest > vehicle I've ever driven, even a bit slower than the 1960 Falcon I > learned to drive in. It takes a different mindset, that's for sure. > > Our W115 200D

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

You could always mix and match parts between the 240D and the 300D to get the car you want --- best engine/tranny in the best body. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dimitri LOVES his 240D - where is his valuable inut? > > On Mon,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Dimitri LOVES his 240D - where is his valuable inut? On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:35 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A 240D can handily outrun a 80klb semi, even a 600hp semi, on a freeway > ramp. > The semi needs a bigger hole to merge into. > The semis do all right. >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

A 240D can handily outrun a 80klb semi, even a 600hp semi, on a freeway ramp. The semi needs a bigger hole to merge into. The semis do all right. But, when drivers see a semi crawling up ahead, they know instantly that they want to move to the left lane. You could always use the two bottle

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

The 240D automatic we had for a short time was just about the slowest vehicle I've ever driven, even a bit slower than the 1960 Falcon I learned to drive in. It takes a different mindset, that's for sure. Our W115 200D (manny) kicked its ass, and though it had _less_ horsepower it was infinitely

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

What Kaleb said - you'll be a better driver. You'll learn energy management, timing, and planning. It makes a GREAT first car for a new driver - safest thing you could but him/her in. No impulsive hot-rodding and showing off, very safe chassis with decent mass, etc. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:12

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

And as to other drivers, they'll deal, they'll slow down or move over. They might talk big but thats just talk. -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 11:57:32 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Just have to learn to drive it. It’s a totally different mindset driving one of these.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

I have driven one as a daily in the past. You just have to get used to it and it’s fine. It makes you a much better driver because you have to plan ahead. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

And don’t forget to leave one of your turn signals on all the time... you could also get a pair of the wrap-around cataract sunglasses to wear, too. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Buy it, then buy a blue hair wig, and only drive in the left lane... Ohh >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Buy it, then buy a blue hair wig, and only drive in the left lane... Ohh and some good ear plugs so you won't be bothered by all the angry honking.. you'll be good... :))) Plan to leave early for appointments... On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:44 AM Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > I found an 82 240D

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

I rented one of those stupid pony cars in 1991 with a v8. (because it was the only thing available that day.)  I could not get either a small toolbox or a 4 cyl diesel head in the trunk. (OM 615/616)  I believe a 115 or 123 NA 300D could have run circles about it.  It was awful.  That or frod

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

You need to inform us of the PRICE and the model year to get better feedback. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No worse than a lot of the cars back in the 70's when pollution control > came in etc. They were detuned to the point that

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

No worse than a lot of the cars back in the 70's when pollution control came in etc. They were detuned to the point that they could hardly move. I remember driving a Mustang II with a 4 cylinder engine as a loaner from the dealership. A 240D would have run circles around it. Randy On

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

My former message was a bit cryptic as I was trying to compose it quickly at a red light... As others have stated, while the performance or lack thereof of this configuration of the 240D is minimal, driving one configured this way merely requires the driver to become more tactical in their

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

I'd always get irritated because the buttercups from town would drive 25 (in 45 or 55 zone) (used to be 70) outside of town, especially after dark, then when they got to where the streetlights were in town, they'd go 45 in a 25 zone.    THey just could not comprehend driving without street

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

I never tried timing it to 70, but that is probably about right.   A 240D was never meant to be a freeway flyer.   An 87 300D or newer is much better for that.   You have to think like you are driving a truck in the 40s-60s.   We drove trucks with chevy 6 cylinder gassers.   You don't ever

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

How can that be dangerous? I am very often behind people who take a quarter to a half of a mile to get up to 60 when getting onto a highway. None of them were ever driving a 240D. Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and good

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Just have to learn to drive it. It’s a totally different mindset driving one of these. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Donald, > > These are common issues well known issues for this car. > > -D > >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:44

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

Donald, These are common issues well known issues for this car. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and > good paint and interior. No rust. Everything works. But, I was looking up >

Re: [MBZ] 240D door seals and clips

Just makes it easier to look things up. A lot of variants of the W123 chassis in the EPC. -D > On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:41 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sorry, 1983 240 D > > Michael E. Esh > > >> On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Model

Re: [MBZ] 240D door seals and clips

Sorry, 1983 240 D Michael E. Esh > On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Model year and/or chassis number? > > -D > > >> On Aug 27, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Does anyone have the part numbers handy for the front door seals

Re: [MBZ] 240D door seals and clips

Model year and/or chassis number? -D > On Aug 27, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does anyone have the part numbers handy for the front door seals and > installation clips for W123 chassis > My internet access is down and I would like to order a set of them. > I’m

Re: [MBZ] 240D manny in Tucson $2k

I’m looking at it today. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > You beat me to the punch. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: November 24, 2018 9:39 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >

Re: [MBZ] 240D manny in Tucson $2k

You beat me to the punch. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: November 24, 2018 9:39 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] 240D manny in Tucson $2k

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

Haha, good one! I’ll try that next time. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2018, at 11:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hey Dimitri, I hate to break it to you, but there is an app for that. It's > called 123 Radiator Fix It. > > On Nov 4, 2018 11:04 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

I didn’t have the patience to wait for jb weld to cure enough to prevent the bolt from just pushing the nut off! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2018, at 11:04 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > A dab of mighty "J B Weld" on the face of the nut, put it in place, run the > bolt in from the

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

I re-used the captive nuts from the old radiator but they would not stay put! Perhaps the teeth on the old nuts were worn off? How is the oil cooler held in place without being bolted to the radiator? I didn’t see any options where a friction fit would work. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4,

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

Hey Dimitri, I hate to break it to you, but there is an app for that. It's called 123 Radiator Fix It. On Nov 4, 2018 11:04 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" wrote: A dab of mighty "J B Weld" on the face of the nut, put it in place, run the bolt in from the other side to secure the nut while J B Weld

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

A dab of mighty "J B Weld" on the face of the nut, put it in place, run the bolt in from the other side to secure the nut while J B Weld is curing Nut stays in place while installing cooler from awkward position. Lightly oil bolt threads so JB Weld does not set on threads. On Sun, Nov 4,

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

or buy the captive nuts? actually, they are just insurance; lockbolts. The oil cooler is held in place by friction/gravity. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Bravo! Next time, super glue the nuts in place? Probably won't be a next time... ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

Tech tip to keep the neighbors from thinking you are crazy. Next time it's necessary to curse or vent.. whip out the cell phone and talk into it... they will think you are chewing someone a new orifice and laying down the law. Suddenly, you are no longer crazy... On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 6:38 PM

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

Attaboy Dimitri. No substitute for frigonometry on old MB tinkering. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Nov 4, 2018 6:52 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" wrote: > So I finally replaced the leaking radiator on my 240D today. I bought a > new Behr- Hella from FCP-Euro which cost $195 including shipping.

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

I have read of people using the blue sticky putty that people use to stick paper to a wall or fridge. I have some miniature vise grip needle nose that often work for me for tight spaces. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator replacement

Bravo! Next time, super glue the nuts in place? Probably won't be a next time... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On November 4, 2018 6:51:44 PM EST, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: >So I finally replaced the leaking radiator on my 240D today. I bought a >new Behr- Hella from

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

Agreed! Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 25, 2018 9:37 PM, "Dimitri" wrote: > Right, there are so many w123 Mercedes still on the road so discontinuing > critical mechanical parts is just plain stupid. People who drive W123s are > usually not in the market for a new Mercedes so it’s not

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

Right, there are so many w123 Mercedes still on the road so discontinuing critical mechanical parts is just plain stupid. People who drive W123s are usually not in the market for a new Mercedes so it’s not like Mercedes is sacrificing new car sales by keeping the w123s on the road. Sent from

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

Yes,Dimitri - you are,spot on. MB knows their cars ,last a long time & they should support them. Esp such simple ones,as,240D's. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 25, 2018 6:59 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" wrote: To follow-up, the classic center says that Mercedes no longer makes radiators for

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

Yes you are right but I always expected more from Mercedes. Now they just seem to behave like every other cheap car dealership. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2018, at 8:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder what would happen were you to go to any other dealership and ask > for

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

I wonder what would happen were you to go to any other dealership and ask for a radiator for a 35+ year old vehicle, even a 20 year old one? On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 5:59 PM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > To follow-up, the classic center says that Mercedes no longer makes > radiators for this car

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 19:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > Didn't Nissens used to be the radiator of choice? That's what I recall. > Rock Auto sells them cheaper than Behr. Interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

I was going to say, why be that way when Behr still makes them? But I see that Hella/Behr is selling aluminum and plastic, just like Nissens. So maybe MBZ dropped them because they can't source an exact match any more. Didn't Nissens used to be the radiator of choice? Rock Auto sells them

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

To follow-up, the classic center says that Mercedes no longer makes radiators for this car and that I should go to the aftermarket. The dealership told me that I should take the car to a local Indy shop to have it fixed since they can’t source the part. I wouldn’t take it to the dealership

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

That's what I would do if I had an old brass and copper radiator. Not worth thinking about with an aluminum and plastic radiator (like the one I replaced in my ML350) 30 years ago I'd know where to go. I wonder if they're still in business? Oh, wow, not only is the place still open and still

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

On 24/10/2018 5:44 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: My 78 240D has a leaking radiator- the fins at the bottom appear to be all corroded away. The car has a manual tranny so I’m wondering if there are two options for a radiator, one for an automatic car which has the transmission cooler

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

Search for NOS and you might find one.. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:39 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I see Behr and OEM, but I don't see OE on eBay. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D radiator

I see Behr and OEM, but I don't see OE on eBay. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

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