finding old apache.pm

1999-12-05 Thread Tom Fishwick
Hi there, I'm a new user to modperl, actually just trying to get it installed. I installed it under my own directory ( I don't have root privs for the machine ) fine, but when I start apache up it finds an old Apache.pm (the one the sys admin installed), I need it to find mine the one that I ins

Re: Modperl core dump on startup

1999-12-05 Thread Stas Bekman
RH supplied RPMs suck, please read the mailing list archive it was discussed many time already. Grab the statically built RPM from perl.apache.org. > Hi all. > > I just installed modperl 1.21 with apache 1.3.9, both are custom RPMs > that are basically based on the Red Hat RPMs (we just chang

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-05 Thread David Emery
At 00:28 -0700 99.12.5, Michael Dearman wrote: > David Emery wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > Personally, I think the name mod_perl should be kept, and mod_perl hackers should >start referring to themselves as "The Mod Squad". A logo could be created based on >the shape of Linc's hair from the Mod

Re: finding old apache.pm

1999-12-05 Thread Stas Bekman
> Hi there, > > I'm a new user to modperl, actually just trying to get it installed. I > installed it under my own directory ( I don't have root privs for the > machine ) fine, but when I start apache up it finds an old Apache.pm > (the one the sys admin installed), I need it to find mine the on

Tellme Is Hiring

1999-12-05 Thread Angus Davis
Mod_Perl Friends, I'm writing from Tellme Networks, a start-up based in Palo Alto, California. Check us out at http://www.tellme.com/. Building a great team is the most important thing I do. We're looking to hire someone (either full-time or as a consultant) who has experience building web applic

Re: mod_perl SourceGarden is looking for a new home

1999-12-05 Thread James G Smith
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >Lately, ScreamDesign has changed its policy regarding OSS and because of >that mod_perl SourceGarden is looking for a new home. We would like to >thank ScreamDesign for hosting our project for the last half a year, >especially Pat and Philip who provi

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-05 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi again, all, On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Victor Zamouline wrote: > So, a company hiring VB developers knows that these are humble and > obedient guys who will make the application work, even if an extra > semicolon will ruin the whole program. And that is perfectly OK with > such companies because the

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-05 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi all, On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > Just putting in use strict and -w doesn't cut it. There's a load of > gotchas that people just have to understand and learn on top of Perl > skills. Too true. This is a topic in its own right. I believe that mod_perl could be made into an

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-05 Thread Stas Bekman
> > So when I spread the mod_perl word, I make sure I don't make my client > > hire another bunch of VB programmers after what I told them about > > mod_perl during the training. :))) > > Hang on, fellas, isn't this getting a bit unnecessarily evangelist? > Tools like mod_perl are just that. Too

RE: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-05 Thread Andy Pruitt
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Mailing list size

1999-12-05 Thread Dominic A. V. Amann
Although I like mailing lists, I am beginning to see a pattern. A list becomes useful at around 5-20 daily contributions. At around 30+, I glaze over and skip tons of stuff, wishing it would end already. modperl is well over that limit, and I now have to unsubscribe just to keep my day productiv

Re: Name: overview

1999-12-05 Thread sjn
Suddenly, James G Smith uttered: > "Victor Zamouline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >6) Eagle with a single red-blue-yellow feather in its wing, proposed by > >Salve Nilsen > > I think I've kept up with the thread, but I may have missed a post > or two. If I'm repeating, please forgive me. > >

Re: Name: overview

1999-12-05 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Suddenly, James G Smith uttered: > "Victor Zamouline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >6) Eagle with a single red-blue-yellow feather in its wing, proposed by > >Salve Nilsen > > I think I've kept up with the thread, but I may have missed a post > or two. If I'm repeating, please forgive me. > >

Re: mod_perl SourceGarden is looking for a new home

1999-12-05 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> > Talk to SourceForge which is sponsored by VA Linux Systems. > > > > http://www.sourceforge.com/ > > > > I don't think they currently support mod_perl, but I bet they can be > > convinced if you ask nice. > > Funny, the sourcegarden is a very similar service to sourceforge, but we > want it

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-05 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Suddenly, Stas Bekman uttered: > Hi, folks > > You wouldn't beleive but I receive a great deal of mod_perl job offers. > Here is a partial quote of the most generic content of the offer: *Sigh* Lots of jobs in the US, but none in Norway... :( I've been lurking on this list a little while and

Re: Mailing list size

1999-12-05 Thread Gunther Birznieks
I think whenever you get advocacy posts then you see a flurry of posts. If you don't like those types of posts, you usually pretty quickly identify them by topic (currently it is the mod_perl programmers are in demand subject line).. and can filter out...Delete delete delete... I may be wrong, bu

Re: Mailing list size

1999-12-05 Thread Stas Bekman
> I think whenever you get advocacy posts then you see a flurry of posts. > If you don't like those types of posts, you usually pretty quickly > identify them by topic (currently it is the mod_perl programmers are in > demand subject line).. and can filter out...Delete delete delete... > > I may

Name / brand overview version 2

1999-12-05 Thread Victor Zamouline
= 1. Known propositions for the name/symbol of Mod_Perl = 1.1. Animals (independent symbols) -- 1.1.1. Eagle, proposed by Ged Haywood. Copyrighted by O'Reilly,

Re: Logo / brand

1999-12-05 Thread Michael Dearman
Victor Zamouline wrote: > > >Talking about "let's do something" topics on the mod_perl list is a waste > >of time, unfortunately... The motto of this list regarding new things is > >"think it, implement it and give it"... > > This is somewhat too straightforward, Stas. Look - I only suggested

Re: Name / brand overview version 2

1999-12-05 Thread Nick Tonkin
I've been watching this thread for a week now. I find the content rather tiresome and wish that there were more discussion of technical issues related to using mod_perl as there used to be on this list. But on the other hand I am pleased to see some new names on the list that apparently belong

Re: Name: overview

1999-12-05 Thread James G Smith
Salve J Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Suddenly, James G Smith uttered: >> "Victor Zamouline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >6) Eagle with a single red-blue-yellow feather in its wing, proposed by >> >Salve Nilsen >> >> I like this idea, but I'm seeing the Eagle from the mod_perl book in >> g

Re: mod_perl Programmers demand is going up...

1999-12-05 Thread Geoff Crawshaw
I might as well pile on :-) At TimeBills.com (www.timebills.com) we are looking for smart, talented mod_perl/perl developers to help us build a complete suite of small business applications. We are location in Boston (Back bay for now, moving to South Station in January). Seed funded and in the

Re: Mailing list size

1999-12-05 Thread Eric Strovink
Stas is right, I've been mass-deleting the "logo" and "demand" threads for several days, resulting in a quite manageable list. The nice thing is, you can always search the archive if you accidentally delete something (and you *should* search the archive before posting, anyway, as well as check th

Re: Mailing list size

1999-12-05 Thread Anthony Gardner
Have to be honest and say that compared to other mailing lists I'm on, this one is the most professional and personal I've seen. >From: Eric Strovink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: mod_perl list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Mailin

Re: Mailing list size

1999-12-05 Thread G.W. Haywood
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Anthony Gardner wrote: > Have to be honest and say that compared to other mailing lists I'm on, this > one is the most professional and personal I've seen. Thank you. From all of us, I'm sure. On a technical (if not topical) point it would ease network traffic and the pre

Re: Fix for Redhat(?) bug in mod_perl install

1999-12-05 Thread Tom Mornini
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Autarch wrote: > I don't remember if this has been discussed before but anyway. If you're > running Redhat 6.0 (and maybe 6.1?) Just this moment installed a RH-6.1 system. It did not exhibit this problem. > there may be some weirdness when you > try to install modperl. Bas

Re: Fix for Redhat(?) bug in mod_perl install

1999-12-05 Thread Remi Fasol
> On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Autarch wrote: > > > I don't remember if this has been discussed before > but anyway. If you're > > running Redhat 6.0 (and maybe 6.1?) > > Just this moment installed a RH-6.1 system. It did > not exhibit this > problem. fwiw, my install of RH6.0 didn't have this proble

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-05 Thread Tim Bunce
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 09:41:03AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Tim" == Tim Bunce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tim> I presumed (I've not looked) that it would reload the new interpreter > Tim> in the same way that the original one was and thus would reload modules > Tim> in the sa

Apache::StatINC problem with use base

1999-12-05 Thread Autarch
I encountered a problem using Apache::StatINC with modules that have the directive: use base qw( SomeClass ); The error I got was the following: [Mon Dec 6 07:35:47 1999] [error] Inherited %FIELDS can't override existing %FIELDS at /usr/lib/perl5/5.0050 3/base.pm line 73 BEGIN failed--compi

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-05 Thread brian moseley
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Tim Bunce wrote: > I guess I could add something like this: > > DBI->default_connect_method("Apache::DBI::connect"); > > which Apache::DBI could call, after a "use DBI;", to get itself > plugged in. that would be great, cos ive wanted to be able to supply my own conne

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-05 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
Tim Bunce wrote: > > I've always thought the "must load Apache::DBI before DBI" thing was a > > bit weird anyway. Can't you just make it a flag that DBI looks at > > that Apache::DBI sets? > > The idea was to avoid run-time overhead by setting things up a > compile time. > > I guess I could ad

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-05 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey W. Baker) wrote: >IMHO Apache::DBI causes more problems than it solves with it's >"transparent" replacement of DBI functions. Can anyone point to an >example where a subclass of DBI would not do everything that Apache::DBI >does, except without the headaches? Yes, here

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-05 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
Ken Williams wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey W. Baker) wrote: > >IMHO Apache::DBI causes more problems than it solves with it's > >"transparent" replacement of DBI functions. Can anyone point to an > >example where a subclass of DBI would not do everything that Apache::DBI > >does, except

Re: PerlFreshRestart and %INC

1999-12-05 Thread Chip Turner
"Jeffrey W. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ken Williams wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey W. Baker) wrote: > > >IMHO Apache::DBI causes more problems than it solves with it's > > >"transparent" replacement of DBI functions. Can anyone point to an > > >example where a subclass of D

Newbie: Tough times with sfio

1999-12-05 Thread hamid khoshnevis
Hello, I am a newbie modperl'er and I am tyring to get system calls to return data to modperl (via stdout). Based on what I have read, sfio need to be linked in. Has anyone successfully done so and does stdout gets directed properly. Anyone with success out there: can you share with me how yo