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> To: Geoffrey Young
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> To: Geoffrey Young
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>
> >&
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Might this be a good time to consider Cafe Press, then?
Geoffrey> as it turns out, the graphics house was actually the sponsor
Geoffrey> them bailing means that we don't even get a design...
If it's designs you want, I could pro
At 08:29 28/03/2001 -0500, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>> From: darren chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Might this be a good time to consider Cafe Press, then?
>
>as it turns out, the graphics house was actually the sponsor
>them bailing means that we don't even get a design...
But if there _w
> -Original Message-
> From: darren chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
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>
> Geoffrey Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something to this
> effect on
Geoffrey Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something to this effect on 03/28/2001:
> well, I am embarrassed to have to say that the sponsor who had committed to
> the shirts this year bailed on us.
>
> it has nothing to do with the contents of this thread - apparently the
> product they wanted to ma
well, I am embarrassed to have to say that the sponsor who had committed to
the shirts this year bailed on us.
it has nothing to do with the contents of this thread - apparently the
product they wanted to market isn't fully baked yet and they thought that
the shirts were premature (and too costly
How about a picture of a card game; on the table
are a 9 of diamonds, Jack of Clubs, and King of spades.
The dealer is about to play the Ace of perl.
The caption reads, "mod_perl does the trick".
Also in the dealer's hand are cards that say,
IIS
iPlanet
Servertec
> "Tim" == Tim Sweetman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tim> (But Trademark Difficulties(tm) probably take out this idea; there are
Tim> better legal fights to be had).
But in the US, we have safe harbor because of the 2 live crew supreme
court case. This is a parody, remember!?
Of course, you
Jonathan Gardner wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> > So apart from the Native American thread which I believe everyone has
> > worked out...
> >
> > what do you want to do about T-Shirts?
> >
> > For me, three ideas stand out...
> > 1) I did like the ModDonalds idea...
>
On 22 Mar 2001 11:42:26 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
> But mod_perl is not just Linux. mod_perl runs just fine on those
> redmond-based so-called "operating systems", as well as BSD (little
> devil, anyone?) and Unix, and starting saturday, MacOS X!
>
I was thinking abou
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
> So apart from the Native American thread which I believe everyone has
> worked out...
>
> what do you want to do about T-Shirts?
>
> For me, three ideas stand out...
> 1) I did like the ModDonalds idea...
>
What about this? (this would have to a
> S&M is certainly a meme that precious few other programming languages
> have made use of ...
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/bondage-and-discipline-language.html
Well, close...
Cheers,
Richard
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Blue Lang wrote:
> I'd like to officially vote for Maude Pearl, the 1920's Bettie Paige-ish
> dominatrix-esque mod_perl mascot.
Wow. I've had "perl6 themes" as a background process for a while now.
S&M is certainly a meme that precious few other programming languages
have made use of ...
The
I'd like to officially vote for Maude Pearl, the 1920's Bettie Paige-ish
dominatrix-esque mod_perl mascot.
Put a woman in black fishnets on a t-shirt with the word 'perl' on it and
you won't be able to fit enough of them into the convention to meet the
demand. :)
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Blue Lang
> "Bakki" == Bakki Kudva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bakki> It is Tux the Linux Penguin acting like that character from the
Bakki> movie "the Predator" with a Gatling gun strapped across his
Bakki> chest with perl bullets (on the ammo belt and shooting out of
Bakki> the muzzle) and when they
irznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
First I vote for Randal's ModDonald's idea.
Secondly I had an idea and here is crude representation of it.
It is Tux the Linux Penguin acting like that character from the movie "the
Predator" with a Gatling gun s
So apart from the Native American thread which I believe everyone has
worked out...
what do you want to do about T-Shirts?
For me, three ideas stand out...
1) I did like the ModDonalds idea...
2) I wasn't at last years conference, I really like the World Domination
one and wished I could have
I am so sorry to have to add one more comment to this thread but I am
afraid that I am being misquoted. The quotation below IS NOT MINE though
it appears that way by incomplete quoting to someone who didn't get my
original post!
Again, it came from Sherman Alexie a Coeur d'Alen Indian who wrote t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Farber (EED)) wrote:
>Bakki Kudva wrote:
>> Just look at the sports teams. You couldn't have a team called the
>> Washington Kikes or the Washington Micks. But yet you can have the
>> Washington Redskins and this Indian with a big nose and big lips running
>> around. H
Hey! I really like the "camel ramming up stuff up Bill Gates ass" one! Can
we go with that? No? Crap!
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:52 AM
To: mod_perl list
Subject: Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
Steve Repp
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Jim Winstead wrote:
> another note to throw out there -- o'reilly claims trademarks on
> the camel/perl association and the mod_perl/eagle association,
> so someone will either need to get permission from them to print a
> shirt perpetuating those associations, or come up wit
Bakki Kudva wrote:
> Just look at the sports teams. You couldn't have a team called the
> Washington Kikes or the Washington Micks. But yet you can have the
> Washington Redskins and this Indian with a big nose and big lips running
> around. How would you feel if it was the Washington Rabbis and y
Steve Reppucci wrote:
> Some folks spend way too much time looking for something to be offended
> by, again IMHO.
I'm pretty sure that for any thing you might find, I would be able to
find someone offended by it.
Let's no do anything too obvious (a camel ramming up stuff up Bill Gates
ass would
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 08:14:53AM -0800, Paul wrote:
> --- Nick Tonkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Personally I find the very name Apache a little uncomfortabl. I get
> > the joke about it being a patchy server (although now the ratio of
> > original NCSA code to `new' code is so miniscule as
[extensive snippage]
How about a bunch of white shirts? One magic marker per shirt and
everyone can draw their own picture of a computer.
alternatively,
"No-one could decide on an image so
all we got was this lousy sentence."
Dave
On 21 Mar 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:
> You mean apart from the trademark infringement? I know, what about
> "mod_perl is my bNO CARRIER
All your base are belong to mod_perl
??
MBM
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--- Nick Tonkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> . . .
> > I for one would appreciate a design that doesn't fetishize a
> > culture and people that have already had enough abuse at the hands
> > of 'American' people.
>
> Hear, hear.
>
> Personally I find th
--- Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> actually, we may have a winner with the Native American and lamp
> idea. A coworker suggested a peace pipe (picture an indian smoking
> perl) instead of a lamp, since you don't see warriors holding lamps
> often. maybe some smoke signals?
Though
I realize that the subject is OT, but let's not get into a political (or
whatever) debate on the list.
there will be no images of anything picking on any particular demographic
(be it Python or Native Americans) so please take this discussion offline...
I am sorry this turned into something appr
Well, I've been resisting any replies here, especially since I've *never*
been accused of being "politically correct", but since we're tossing
in pennies, here are my two:
I agree that the use of *any* symbols of a race or religion to represent a
sports team (or anything else of that ilk) is at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
> > "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> > still need more suggestions for a theme that aren't
> >> > tongue-in-cheek,
> >>
> >> lol! Why, I thought that was the idea!!!
>
> Geoffrey> well, of course - but much folly
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:11:13 -0500
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> actually, we may have a winner with the Native American and lamp idea.
> A
> coworker suggested a peace pipe (picture an indian smoking perl) instead
> of
> a lamp, since you don't see warriors holding lamps often. m
> Randal> 42 billion has the right sound to it. It's "the answer", after
all,
> Randal> a billion times over. :)
>
> I like it! Maybe a big round pearl with a smiley-face
> and a headband with feather sticking up in the back
> with the words "Don't Panic" in large friendly letters
> printed below
Nick Tonkin wrote:
> Personally I find the very name Apache a little uncomfortable..
> ... but the relevance of an http server to the Apache nation
> escapes me (and the symbolizing of the Apache nation with a feather
> strikes me as stereotypical at best).
Most of you will have seen, at least in
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Drew Taylor wrote:
>
snip..
> won't be there this year. Speaking of which, will the mod_perl classes have
> the handouts available over the web?
>
i know doug's been updating his:
http://perl.apache.org/~dougm/modperl_2.0.html
sterling
> "Dave" == Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dave> So as not to be a total spoilsport, I would like to point out that I
Dave> thought Randal's idea (Mcmod_perl?) was rather clever and I think it'd be
Dave> cool (though I don't know if there are trademark issues).
Remember. It's a Par
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Rolsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:19 PM
> To: Geoffrey Young
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>
&g
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Geoffrey> sorry Randal - I guess I just found it so funny that I
Geoffrey> didn't think you were really serious about it (I saw the big
Geoffrey> glowing M and nearly snarfed my coffee :)
As a professional comedian, I *demand* that m
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Geoffrey Young wrote:
> > If you get a really good artist, put the lamp/bottle into the hands of
> > a well-built Native American figure (a warrior-type is great, but an
> > "indian princess" has subliminal appealok, ok, but think about it,
> > lol!)
>
> I think the graph
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: Geoffrey Young
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
>
>
> >>>&g
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Geoffrey Young wrote:
>
> > > If you get a really good artist, put the lamp/bottle into the hands of
> > > a well-built Native American figure (a warrior-type is great, but an
> > > "indian princess" has subliminal appealok, ok,
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > still need more suggestions for a theme that aren't tongue-in-cheek,
>>
>> lol! Why, I thought that was the idea!!!
Geoffrey> well, of course - but much folly leaves the list innundated with (albeit
Geoffrey> funny) postings bu
Randal> 42 billion has the right sound to it. It's "the answer", after all,
Randal> a billion times over. :)
I like it! Maybe a big round pearl with a smiley-face
and a headband with feather sticking up in the back
with the words "Don't Panic" in large friendly letters
printed below :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:58 PM
> To: Geoffrey Young
> Subject: RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
>
>
>
> --- Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > still need more suggestions
Hi
( 01.03.20 10:36 -0500 ) Geoffrey Young:
> still need more suggestions for a theme that aren't tongue-in-cheek,
> though :)
But those are the best ones! And puns and other word play are a part of
perl culture!
Also, just for my information, who decides on the theme and how do they
do it?
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> It would also be easy enough to upload the artwork from last year.
I'd use the same artwork, but change mod_perl to mod_perl 2.0. Alas, with
all the latest development Doug has done for mod_perl 2.0, it seems that
the release of Apache 2.0 will be the main show stopper. So let's keep the
folks
> -Original Message-
> From: David Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:24 AM
> To: Geoffrey Young; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OT] ApacheCon BOF
>
>
>
> Geoffrey Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > o
Geoffrey Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> o unfortunately, we can't get into the biz of selling any. the
logistics
> of that is just too much.
What about using a service like www.cafepress.com where you upload the
artwork and they take care of all the logistics: order taking, payment
>
> o unfortunately, we can't get into the biz of selling any. the logistics
>of that is just too much.
Maybe using a service like Cafe Press to sell the shirts would
work? http://www.cafepress.com/ I know I'd be interested in purchasing a
shirt.
well, thanks everyone for your suggestions (maybe :)
I just thought I'd sum up some of the issues that we dealt with last year:
o the Eagle and Apache feather are off limits - we didn't get permission
to use them last year and don't expect that to change.
o the shirt is going to have a cor
On 19 Mar 2001, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> >> "mod_perl: 20 billion hits served"
> >> And turn the "m" into a stylized arch. :)
>
> Nick> er, maybe 20 trillion ... ? seeing as how ValueClick alone has done a bit
> Nick> over 42 billion since 6/98 ... :)
>
> yeah, I was hoping valueclick would
Ya, I know... I just love to give Nick some grief once in a while... :)
~Sean
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> > "Sean" == Sean C Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Sean> 42,539,693,877 to be exact... sorry Nick! :)
>
> 42 billion has the right sound to it. It's "the answer", after
> "Sean" == Sean C Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Sean> 42,539,693,877 to be exact... sorry Nick! :)
42 billion has the right sound to it. It's "the answer", after all,
a billion times over. :)
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42,539,693,877 to be exact... sorry Nick! :)
~Sean
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> [ugh - next time, don't be a top-quoter - bleh]
>
> > "Nick" == Nick Tonkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> "mod_perl: 20 billion hits served"
> >> And turn the "m" into a stylized arch. :)
>
> Nick>
Nick Tonkin wrote:
>
> er, maybe 20 trillion ... ? seeing as how ValueClick alone has done a bit
> over 42 billion since 6/98 ... :)
>
> How about an oyster, open, showing the perl inside, wearing a Parka
> and driving a Vespa?
Heh. Well, if you are going to go *that* route, we might consider d
[ugh - next time, don't be a top-quoter - bleh]
> "Nick" == Nick Tonkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "mod_perl: 20 billion hits served"
>> And turn the "m" into a stylized arch. :)
Nick> er, maybe 20 trillion ... ? seeing as how ValueClick alone has done a bit
Nick> over 42 billion since
er, maybe 20 trillion ... ? seeing as how ValueClick alone has done a bit
over 42 billion since 6/98 ... :)
How about an oyster, open, showing the perl inside, wearing a Parka
and driving a Vespa?
~~~
Nick Tonkin
On 19 Mar 2001, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> > "Geoffrey" == Geoffre
I second that suggestion. I have one from last year (I found the BOF because
Stas laid the T-shirts out in a path to the room - good one Stas! :-), but I
won't be there this year. Speaking of which, will the mod_perl classes have
the handouts available over the web?
John Saylor wrote:
>
> Hi
>
At 3:59 PM -0500 3/19/01, Paul Cotter wrote:
> >From: "Geoffrey Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>>
>> What I don't have are any ideas for a shirt theme. The sponsor will be
>> taking care of all the graphics work required - just your mental capital
>is
>> needed.
>
>For the logo: I considered a
>From: "Geoffrey Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> What I don't have are any ideas for a shirt theme. The sponsor will be
> taking care of all the graphics work required - just your mental capital
is
> needed.
For the logo: I considered and Apache with 4 legs, but then settled on a
camel with
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Charles J. Brabec wrote:
> The Perl advocate's version:
>
>mod_perl: Let's see you try to do this with Python.
I know you're only joking, but let's not fall into that trap of confusing
arrogance with advocacy. This is my chief complaint about Pythoners:
they're always i
> >
> > "mod_perl: 20 billion hits served"
> > And turn the "m" into a stylized arch. :)
>
> LOL!! Way to go, Randal!
>
> Or how about a play on the old Superman line?
> A graphic with O'Reilly's Eagle and a caption like
>
> "Look! Up on the net! It's a bird! It's a plane!
> No, it'swait,
Hi
( 01.03.19 13:35 -0500 ) Geoffrey Young:
> In the spirit of things free and fun, I again have a sponsor for mod_perl
> T-Shirts for this year's ApacheCon BOF.
Any thought of making a extra and selling them off the list for people
who can't get to ApacheCon and yet want to proclaim their mod
On Mar 19, Geoffrey Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was heard to say:
>
> In the spirit of things free and fun, I again have a sponsor for mod_perl
> T-Shirts for this year's ApacheCon BOF. I think we can afford to make this
> year's BOF a bit more organized than last year's (probably no shirt
> tos
--- "Randal L. Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Geoffrey> What I don't have are any ideas for a shirt theme. The
> Geoffrey> sponsor will be taking care of all the graphics work
> Geoffrey> required - just your mental ca
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Geoffrey Young wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> In the spirit of things free and fun, I again have a sponsor for mod_perl
> T-Shirts for this year's ApacheCon BOF. I think we can afford to make this
> year's BOF a bit more organized than last year's (probably no shirt
> tossings) b
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Geoffrey> What I don't have are any ideas for a shirt theme. The
Geoffrey> sponsor will be taking care of all the graphics work
Geoffrey> required - just your mental capital is needed.
"mod_perl: 20 billion hits served"
And turn t
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