Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread Richard C Evans
Was typing mine before I read this Paul, maybe respond later, brain hurts. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jun 2015, at 13:50, Paul Gerrard 0060c3f9be9c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu wrote: Rich, With the pressbook I was thinking more of the distributor name on the pressbook

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread Helmut Hamm
Exactly. As has been proved in this thread, there was a public announcement when 'Lion Films International' was formed in September 1955. To me, it is entirely out of the question that this name could've been used anytime before this date. Helmut I think Threadgall may just have been

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread Paul Gerrard
Rich, With the pressbook I was thinking more of the distributor name on the pressbook itself. Poster images may help as well, but as you say, more of a guideline, since they might not have finalised every single detail before compiling the pressbook, and it might not be an exact copy

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread Richard C Evans
Neither the quad, 3-sht, domestic 1-sht or International are offset, they're hand drawn/stone litho. The disputed International is different plates to domestic 1-sht. My understanding is they reused those plates (for different posters.) So if saved (for 6+ years) what were created for

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread Helmut Hamm
David, just curious: At this point, do you have any doubt that this poster was printed in 1955 or later? In my view, it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the production company listed on the Bidll poster did not exist before 1955. Also, back in the days, rent was cheap, but the

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread Alan Adler
I’d just like to say I’m impressed by the research capabilities of MOPO as a group. Fun to see folks working together on something they love. It unleashes genius. Alan Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-27 Thread David Rew
Indeed, it's been a blast, it never ceases to amaze me the depth of knowledge of so many who are willing to share it too. That said, it will be good when it is all over and we can go back to the adverts. :P regards, *David Rew [mob] 0402 925 158* bidll.com

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-26 Thread Helmut Hamm
The same number B.L. 838 can be seen on the domestic onesheet sold by Heritage. Fact remains that the distributor of the Bidll poster did not exist before 1955, so it seems that the original plates were edited and re-used for this poster. IF the Bidll poster had indeed been printed in 1949, it

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-26 Thread Richard C Evans
I'm pretty certain they didn't reuse the original plates. While obviously very similar, it's a different rendering. Other than changes to text, if you look at the detail the images are illustrated differently throughout. Subtle, but the variances can't be down to differences caused by separate

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-26 Thread Paul Gerrard
Did Greg give any indication of what the number might look like if it were a re-release? Would Stafford Co issue a new one (or blank it out)? I hate to differ from Greg, as he obviously has a load of experience in this area. I bought some of my first posters from him all those years

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-26 Thread Jeff Potokar
Indeed, Richard. As was discussed prior, the art of the bidll piece is not the same as the HA '49 copy. The are 2 different critters. On Jun 26, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Richard C Evans wrote: I'm pretty certain they didn't reuse the original plates. While obviously very similar, it's a

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-26 Thread David Rew
Unfortunately I have not heard back from Greg as yet to my follow up email where I asked about the (actual) number on this poster or his opinion on the re-release question, I do not know him at all so could not be too forward in chasing him up. I did provide him with a link to the MoPo

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-26 Thread Jeff Potokar
Well said, Helmut. Points are worth pondering. And the omitted (deleted) production /London Film Co, logo and name (the text at the top of the poster) still makes no sense, were it from the 1st release --- international / territory release or not. Questions, questions, that's for sure.

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread David Rew
Just had an email back from Greg Edwards in the UK (Rare Film Posters), who I asked after a suggestion from John Reid and Vesna (from the thread on Vintage Movie Posters Forum http://vintagemoviepostersforum.com/discussion/1108/rare-english-one-sheet-the-third-man/p1) - I told him the queries

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread Simon Oram
.From: David RewSent: Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:45To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUReply To: David RewSubject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) Just

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread Richard C Evans
Phew, the cavalry arrived. Quad is B.L. 833. I believe rather than 49, release year for Third Man was 50. BIDL looks to be B.L. (three figures). Game still on. Phew, almost waved the white flag last night after the Big Bruce email. On 25 Jun 2015, at 11:44, David Rew wrote: Just had an

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread Jeff Potokar
power to him and to people like him. -d. Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 06:39:18 +1000 From: shadow@gmail.com Subject: Re: [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Really? Is this about what EMP does when they discover they've made another mistake

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread Jeff Potokar
with Grey since day one of his auctions buying and selling posters. Philipp Sent from my iPhone Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:45:54 -0700 From: jpotok...@ca.rr.com Subject: Re: [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I wrote to Bruce to ask his

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread Richard C Evans
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:45:54 -0700 From: jpotok...@ca.rr.com Subject: Re: [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I wrote to Bruce to ask his thoughts on this poster and discussion. He wrote me back and also said I could post his reply

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread David Rew
The number at the bottom of this The Third Man UK poster currently listed on BIDLL http://bidll.com/Listing/Details/420722 is *B.L. 838* regards, *David Rew [mob] 0402 925 158* bidll.com for serious collectors https://www.facebook.com/bidll Follow us

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread Philipp Kainbacher
customers applaud. More power to him and to people like him. -d. Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 06:39:18 +1000 From: shadow@gmail.com Subject: Re: [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Really? Is this about what EMP does when they discover

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-25 Thread David Kusumoto
Subject: Re: [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I wrote to Bruce to ask his thoughts on this poster and discussion. He wrote me back and also said I could post his reply to MOPO: Jeff I personally think it is very likely that it is from 1955

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-24 Thread Jeff Potokar
I wrote to Bruce to ask his thoughts on this poster and discussion. He wrote me back and also said I could post his reply to MOPO: Jeff I personally think it is very likely that it is from 1955 or so. Here is why: IMDb only lists a handful of films from Lion International. But because

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread allen day
Now ... this is what I refer to as a hi-res' pic of a poster. ad On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:58 AM, David Rew da...@bidll.com wrote: Just wanted to offer this follow-up. As you know I had written to Mr Peter Snell owner of CEO of British Lion Film in the hope he might be able to help with

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Tommy Barr
All this has been very interesting, but I wonder how it affects the question of value. In general, however, is a rare re-release poster worth more than an original release poster which is fairly easily obtainable? Tommy On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: I

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Helmut Hamm
I must admit that I have somewhat lost track about the back and forth around this poster. However, the information that Paul has dug up can hardly be contradicted: http://www.archive.org/stream/motionpicturedai78unse#page/n481/mode/2up/search/%27lion+international+films%27 Motion Picture Daily

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Richard C Evans
According to chap at Canal relating to Third Man, British Lion distributed internationally. (Under what name?) And accounts of Woolf's IFD have them utilising Lion International from 1950. Since Lion didn't distribute in the USA prior to 55, then presumably, once they started to in 55 after

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Helmut Hamm
Richard, THE THIRD MAN was originally released in Germany by 'Deutsche London Film' in 1950. The first re-release must've been around 1956, and the poster still shows this company as distributor. By the end of 1956, they either changed names or went out of business. It would make sense that

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Jeff Potokar
And shot thru some nice, soft diffusion, too. :) On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:46 AM, allen day wrote: Now ... this is what I refer to as a hi-res' pic of a poster. ad On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:58 AM, David Rew da...@bidll.com wrote: Just wanted to offer this follow-up. As you know I had written

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Wim Jansen
That’s why I think the Lion International is relevant, but not as relevant as the absence of the London Film logo. To use another rule that is not applicable all of the time: on original release the info of the production company is always there, while on rereleases the distributor info is

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Paul Gerrard
Under London Films International for the 1st release (an offshoot of London Films who owned British Lion), according to the Sydney Herald article that David posted. I originally had the same sort of doubts as you, and that’s why I researched backwards to try and find if the Lion

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread David
I don't know, is the original UK release easily obtainable? HA is the only one on record who has sold the original back in 2006 for US$5,750 in comparison the BIDLL one http://bidll.com/Listing/Details/420722 has a starting bid of just USD$2,750 David Tommy Barr wrote on 24/06/2015 12:32

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread David Rew
Just wanted to offer this follow-up. As you know I had written to Mr Peter Snell owner of CEO of British Lion Film in the hope he might be able to help with the puzzle of the poster. Although he did not respond directly to me he did kindly pass on my email to Studio Canal to respond. For

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread David Rew
Hi All Well as you know our NZ based collector and seller of this rare poster on BIDLL http://bidll.com/Listing/Details/420722has been following the conversations on MoPo with much interest, and although he did not ask me to pass on this message I felt I would let you know that he said: /

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Paul Gerrard
It's really good of them to reply so quickly. However, I should point out that the 1st image you attached is not a quad, but (most of) a first release US Half Sheet style B. The 2nd image is a really nice one of the original quad though. Paul _www.movieposterstudio.com_

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-23 Thread Richard C Evans
It’s in Ed Harris’ Britain’s Forgotten Film Factory: The Story Of Isleworth Studios. 2012. And also Derek Threadgall’s 1994 British Film Institute publication, Shepperton studios: an independent view. Which Ed Harris may have got it from. Just spotted, thanks to that humongous Third Man quad

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread Paul Gerrard
Rich, Without looking at these in detail, you also have to take domestic distributors into account. For example, British Lion distributed Third Man and Fallen Idol (produced by London Films) domestically, hence Lion logo on quads. It's all very complicated when British Lion are owned by

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread David
Good Morning all! Once again my beauty sleep has worked wonders for my skin, the wrinkles have fallen to one side, which has made me a little blind in one eye as I see I have a lot of reading. Well if nothing else I have enjoyed the hunt and the excellent resources that have been used and

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread Paul Gerrard
David, It appears Lion International was indeed created in 1955, just after the old British Lion collapsed with Korda’s London Films and was resurrected under new ownership. Some brief columns in the Sept 21, Nov 15 and Dec 2 editions of Motion Picture Daily 1955 describe the set-up of the

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread bqjansen
As i noted earlier about the start of Lion International: You can find it here: http://www.screenonline.org.uk/film/id/457344/ and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Lion_Films. Granted it does not say that Lion Internantional Flms started then, but it's clear that the

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread bqjansen
Sure there's room for margin/error there, but then again the London Film logo is on the one vetted original British onseheet. Op 22 jun 2015, om 15:30 heeft Richard C Evans het volgende geschreven: Think this is a lesson for not putting too much faith in the logic of what's printed on

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread Richard C Evans
If this is accurate then IFD (Independent Film Distributors) was using Lion International from 1950. (IFD apparently existed 50-59.)

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread Richard C Evans
Think this is a lesson for not putting too much faith in the logic of what's printed on posters. Quads for Third Man, Fallen Idol, and Small Back Room, have London and Lion logos. Lion logo not on Third Man 1 and 3 sheet. Likewise, Fallen Idol 1-sheet, 6 sheet just the London Films logo.

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-22 Thread bqjansen
That is why I think it is telling that the London Film logo, basically Alexander Korda's signature, is not on the poster in question whilst it is on the few posters I resarched up and until Korda's last production Richard III. I must admit though that the info on the several depots of

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-21 Thread Jeff Potokar
10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-21 Thread David
that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Richard C Evans *Sent: *Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com mailto:evan...@mac.com *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
the last time Heritage sold this poster which was five years ago, they listed it as an early 1950's re- release and it sold for $900. Todd Feiertag Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com mailto:da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com mailto:da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas buyers please note - the currency is in NZ$ - that's almost chicken feed in most other countries! Good luck

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
sold this poster which was five years ago, they listed it as an early 1950's re-release and it sold for $900. Todd Feiertag Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
+1000 From: da...@bidll.com mailto:da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Helmut Hamm
mailto:da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas buyers please note

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Helmut Hamm
Apparently, British Lion Films Ltd. was formed in January 1955, after the owners of London Films encountered some financial troubles. I believe that 'Lion International Films' as a division of London Films existed before that. Helmut The only slight question mark in my mind is whether Lion

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread bqjansen
That's so odd, isn't it? With all the internetsites available, we can't say categorically when a subsidiary of an important company started. Wim Op 20 jun 2015, om 17:40 heeft Paul Gerrard het volgende geschreven: Different companies! Eagle-Lion was Rank as you correctly say; but Lion

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Simon Oram
] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) Thanks Paul Some incredibly valuable insight I appreciate you sharing, I've learned something. So, essentially the dig is on to find out about Lion International. Hopefully Richard Evans can share more, unless the send button on his phone get

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Richard C Evans
: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas buyers please note - the currency is in NZ$ - that's almost chicken feed in most other

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Paul Gerrard
Helmut, Not sure what you intended with this follow-up message, but just to avoid confusion: You're right that British Lion Films Ltd was (re-)created in 1955 as a new limited company when Korda went bust, but as you said in your previous message British Lion as a company existed long

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread bqjansen
True, but information like this proves to be so important. And there so much more info on lots of older stuff available. By the way wikipedia states that a controlling share of British Lion was bought in 1946 by London Films. Then in 1955 LF went into receivership and British Lion Films Lt.d

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Alan Adler
What about the British Film Institute - worth a call to them don’t you think - given their trade papers, info and resources. Alan Please Visit Our New Website: WWW.MUSEUMOFMOMANDPOPCULTURE.COM And Our Ebay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts On Jun 20, 2015, at 8:52

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Paul Gerrard
Unfortunately the internet wasn't around in the 1940s ;) Paul _www.movieposterstudio.com_ (http://www.movieposterstudio.com) In a message dated 20/06/2015 16:52:33 GMT Daylight Time, w...@bqjansen.demon.nl writes: That's so odd, isn't it? With all the internetsites available, we can't

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Paul Gerrard
Different companies! Eagle-Lion was Rank as you correctly say; but Lion International was part of London Films/British Lion. It's just that we can't be 100% sure when Lion International started... Paul _www.movieposterstudio.com_ (http://www.movieposterstudio.com) In a message dated

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Paul Gerrard
Just my silly joke. Yes, you're right there's a lot of information out there - perhaps too much sometimes - it's just the tracking down, the collating, and filtering out the misinformation. Not always easy - especially with the speed of my broadband connection! Paul In a message dated

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Richard C Evans
The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible RR which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster, and no connection to original plates.) Would they bother doing it for International RR?

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Simon Oram
English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR?(Prior to that horrible "RR" which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster, and no connection to original plates.)Would they bo

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Simon Oram
Entirely possible Wim. It’s just another conjecture. Personally though I’d lay more money out for the one that appeared at HA. Simon From: Wim Jansen Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:04 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible RR which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Wim Jansen
Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible RR which is based on it. I think based on the actual

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
Seems very sound, based on that information (if the wiki info is correct, that is). And as mentioned before.. why would a second plate/ art be done for an international release OS? The art is very similar to the HA copy, but it is NOT the same. Why go to that added creative trouble and

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
I wrote to one of the people I know at the BFI a day or so ago asking if they could help shed some light, I am waiting to hear back - as an aside, they own a Quad for the film, not a UK1SH I also wrote to Peter Snell, CEO of British Lion (yes, I used Google to find him/the company) but

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Wim Jansen
of info that sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
that sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Wim Jansen
As London Films went bust in 1955 and Lion International Films was set up as a distribution company in January 1955 (surely wikipedia is right on this one) I am sorry to say it’s almost sure to be a re-release. Why should London Films take off their logo for an international issue? Or are there

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
*To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com mailto:evan...@mac.com *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com mailto:evan...@mac.com *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
with that sort of info that sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Jeff Potokar
that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Richard C Evans *Sent: *Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread Wim Jansen
To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible RR which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-20 Thread David
Evans *Sent: *Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com mailto:evan...@mac.com *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread David Rew
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com mailto:da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread David
Thanks Paul Some incredibly valuable insight I appreciate you sharing, I've learned something. So, essentially the dig is on to find out about Lion International. Hopefully Richard Evans can share more, unless the send button on his phone get in the way again. ;) cheers David

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread Jeff Potokar
...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas buyers please note - the currency is in NZ$ - that's almost chicken feed

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread David
ago, they listed it as an early 1950's re-release and it sold for $900. Todd Feiertag Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread Todd
2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas buyers please

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread David
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com mailto:da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread allen day
years ago, they listed it as an early 1950's re-release and it sold for $900. Todd Feiertag -- Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread David
@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Looks nothing like the 50s re-release here: http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/the-third-man-selznick-r-1950s-british-one-sheet-27-x-40-/a/693-64326.s Looks like

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread Paul Gerrard
Hi David, This actually popped up in a previous thread several years ago: _http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l%40listserv.american.edu/msg29685.html_ (http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/msg29685.html) Like Rich Evans said, on face value the version with the A rating –

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-19 Thread Jeff Potokar
for $900. Todd Feiertag Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:38:07 +1000 From: da...@bidll.com Subject: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas

[MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

2015-06-18 Thread David Rew
An exciting find has just been listed on BIDLL by a known New Zealand based collector. For overseas buyers please note - *_the currency is in NZ$_* - that's almost chicken feed in most other countries! Good luck to the all bidders! Or buy now and save yourself the stress!