Hello.
Can somebody explain what is the advantage/inconvenient to use msei18n vs PO
files (like fpGUI does)?
What is the goal of mse18n (and more generally 18n)?
Thanks.
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Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:30:15 -0700 (MST):
> Can somebody explain what is the advantage/inconvenient to use msei18n vs
> PO files (like fpGUI does)?
>
> What is the goal of mse18n (and more generally 18n)?
Well, for _msei18n_ specifically, I can provide s
> Does that help you a bit?
A lot, many thanks.
My biggest problem is that I cannot make run the msei18n demo so difficult
to measure the feature.
https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/issues/1
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> I did provide it here, but it seemed there was no interest for it.
I am interested!
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> Does that help you a bit?
A lot, many thanks.
My biggest problem is that I cannot make run the msei18n demo so difficult
to measure the feature.
https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/issues/1
> I did provide it here, but it seemed there was no interest for it.
I am interested!
Fre;D
Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:28:26 -0700 (MST):
[msei18n]
> My biggest problem is that I cannot make run the msei18n demo so difficult
> to measure the feature.
I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail to compile for
you, did it fail to start,
Hello Sieghard.
> I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail to compile for
> you, did it fail to start, were you unable to get it to work, or something
> else?
I said that the /msegui/apps/i18ndemo/i18ndemo.prj is not working so I
cannot evalute mse-i18n.
Fortunately Glixx gav
Hello Sieghard.
> I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail to compile for
> you, did it fail to start, were you unable to get it to work, or something
> else?
I said that the /msegui/apps/i18ndemo/i18ndemo.prj is not working so I
cannot evalute mse-i18n.
Fortunately Glixx gave
.
But maybe there is something that he does after compiling that I miss.
Fre;D
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Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2019 22:34
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msei18n vs PO files
Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie sch
> I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail to compile for
> you, did it fail to start, were you unable to get it to work, or something
> else?
https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/issues/1#issuecomment-468327170
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Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Fri, 1 Mar 2019 17:12:37 -0700 (MST):
> > I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail to compile
...
> I said that the /msegui/apps/i18ndemo/i18ndemo.prj is not working so I
> cannot evalute mse-i18n.
As I did not use this demo - indeed,
Hello Sieghard and thanks for your answers.
So I will let you try the i18ndemo.prj and last commit of MSEide + me_i18n
parameter.
> msei18n IS fully working, though, and in the
> meantime I even found out again just HOW it works, or is meant to be used.
> Using it is a bit !quirky"
Yes, that i
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msei18n vs PO files
Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Fri, 1 Mar 2019 17:12:37 -0700 (MST):
> > I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail to compile
...
> I said that the /msegui/apps/i18n
: Sieghard
Envoyé : dimanche 3 mars 2019 19:33
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msei18n vs PO files
Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Fri, 1 Mar 2019 17:12:37 -0700 (MST):
> > I'm not sure what you want to say with that - did it fail
Sehr geehrter Herr van Stappen,
Sie schrieben am Sun, 3 Mar 2019 19:55:38 +:
> So I will let you try the i18ndemo.prj and last commit of MSEide + me_i18n
> parameter.
Sorry for the long delay, and the fact that I've still not come around to
inspect this thing. I'm just too busy these times
Developing of msei18n tool is in progress. It keeps localization by
library, but we will add gettext support too. At least msei18n tool
can generate POT files, that we need to translate by transifex. So
msei18n is always actual.
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Hello Seighard.
Sorry for the delay.
And I will need even more to analyze your post.
Write you later and thanks.
De : Sieghard
Envoyé : lundi 18 mars 2019 21:32
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msei18n vs PO files
Sehr geehrter Herr van Stappen,
Sie schrieben am Thu, 21 Mar 2019 23:40:21 +:
> Hello Seighard.
ie (never mind)
Anyhow, after a really verry loong time, I got around to look through the
current (mseide 4.6.2, the "stable" version) implementation of msei18n and
adapt my old "scriptin
Hello Seighard.
> I did download your special "po"-able version, but cannot use it at all,
> because there's no source code for it. I didn't even find any source code
> for a "po"-able version at all yet, even the latest git master archive
> seems to not provide this ability.
Huh, the po-able ve
Sehr geehrter Herr van Stappen,
Sie schrieben am Mon, 22 Apr 2019 22:45:58 +:
> Huh, the po-able version was transfered here:
> https://github.com/fredvs/mseide-msegui
Thank you, I'll have a look at it shortly.
> In mse-org/mseide-msegui is the original no-po-able version.
I found this.
>
Hello Sieghard.
You may use that mailng-list and add a zip file as attachment.
You may also use nabble (like I do):
http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com
and, when creating a message, click on "More" "Upload a file".
You may also use mse-org-forum:
http://mse-org.111682.n8.nabble.com
Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:16:55 -0700 (MST):
> You may use that mailng-list and add a zip file as attachment.
>
> You may also use nabble (like I do):
> http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com
> and, when creating a message, click on "More" "Upload
Hello Sieghard.
> That's all very well meant, but after trying several methods that did NOT
> work at all, and after being unable to put ANYTHING on the nabble list, I
> think I'll give up on this project altogether and just watch and
> sporadically comment on the postings here. This is frustra
Re-hello.
My mail was hidden in previous post, it is:
fiens at hotmail.com
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Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Wed, 1 May 2019 19:42:08 -0700 (MST):
> My mail was hidden in previous post, it is:
...
Thank you, I'll try it "ASAP". I'll also try nabble again, as they sent
mesome address, similarly garbled as gmane does it for (recognized)
addresses in messages del
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msei18n vs PO files
Sehr geehrter Herr fredvs,
Sie schrieben am Wed, 1 May 2019 19:42:08 -0700 (MST):
> My mail was hidden in previous post, it is:
...
Thank you, I'll try it "ASAP". I'll also try nabble again, as they sent
mesome address
Hello fredvs,
by the way, I got the latest msei18n programs to compile and run now, both
the one from release 4.6.2 and from your gitlab repository.
But they don't work correctly. Apart from an error shown on calling:
"Sessionmanager Error: SESSION_MANAGER environment variable not defined"
(that I
Hello Sieghard.
Thanks to give attention to msegui.
> calling "Make" for a project I set up, "msei18n.trp", returns this error:
Are you trying to compile on a Unix machine (Linux or FreeBSD) ?
If yes, you should add "-fPIC" parameter to fpc compiler option:
I use this macro with the gui msei1
> It seems this version was meant to already use "mselang" compilatiin or at
> least compilation via llvm that it was meant to use, but as the regular
> What are you (& other list members) thinking?
I think there is a confusion, there is no call (yet) to mselang (the
compiler).
There is indeed
Hello fredvs,
following up my previous post about the error compiling the "language"
libraries, I found the cause now. The clue & key was the compiler's
suggestion "recompile with -fPIC"
Well I had tried that before, and it hadn't helped. But this might have
been due to my not cleaning up the work
> Now I DID clean up the mess from previous failed attempts before trying the
recompile, and it DID work.
Nice that it works now!
Yes, it is because a **very** old fpc bug.
Even using "-B" (build all) fpc does not clean all previous compiled files.
One of the cause is because fpc forget the inclu
> Now, this leaves the question where to put this compiler switch. If it
> was be needed for all targets, it might be best to put it into some
> ressource string yet to be defined. If it is not needed always, or
> perhaps on Linux only, it might be acceptable to put it into the compiler
>specif
Hello fredvs,
you wrote on Mon, 6 May 2019 14:21:37 -0700 (MST):
> Nice that it works now!
> Yes, it is because a **very** old fpc bug.
> Even using "-B" (build all) fpc does not clean all previous compiled
> files. One of the cause is because fpc forget the included files {$I
> something.inc}.
Hello Sieghard and sorry for the long delay.
> Android (if used there at all, or is this a cross compiler only?) might be
> another matter.
Hum, Android is Java, so, IMHO, fpc could only deal with Java via
fpc-java-native-libraries.
I do it for uos (United Openlibrary of Sound), compile with fpc
Hello fredvs,
you wrote on Mon, 13 May 2019 13:05:34 -0700 (MST):
> Hello Sieghard and sorry for the long delay.
No problem .
> Hum, Android is Java, so, IMHO, fpc could only deal with Java via
Well, it usually uses a Java virtual machine defined by Google, but it's
kernel is - as yet - Linux.
Hello Sieghard.
>> I do it for uos (United Openlibrary of Sound), compile with fpc a
>> Java-native library and use that library with Java applets.
> I.e. you use Java for user interface only, which is just what I meant.
Not sure to understand,but even on a "pure Android" machine (like a a
mob
Re-hello Sieghard.
I forgot to note, for the Android-Java-native library in previous post, that
it works if the library is compiled on a ARM machine.
I use a Rpi + Raspbian.
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Hello fredvs,
you wrote on Tue, 14 May 2019 06:07:06 -0700 (MST):
> > I.e. you use Java for user interface only, which is just what I meant.
>
> Not sure to understand,but even on a "pure Android" machine (like a a
> mobile-phone), compiling a Java-compatible library with fpc is working.
If i
Hello Sieghard.
> But as I found out - though not yet successfully confirmed - it seem
> NOT
Yes, nabble propose "extended" mailing-lists.
When you create a "nabble-mailing-list" you have to give all the infos of
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Then nabble will copy all new posts of the "of
Hello fredvs,
you wrote on Wed, 15 May 2019 02:05:08 -0700 (MST):
> Yes, nabble propose "extended" mailing-lists.
> When you create a "nabble-mailing-list" you have to give all the infos of
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> Then nabble will copy all new posts of the "official-root" mailing li
Hello Sieghard.
Sorry if I was not clear.
To resume:
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Hello fredvs,
you wrote on Thu, 16 May 2019 06:42:12 -0700 (MST):
> http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com
> --> is a "clone" of
> mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> mailing list.
Yes, I know. I am registerd there, but I opted to not get the mails, but
read the messages via gman
Hello fredvs,
as announced in another message, and as I recently updated my homepage
anyway, I put the utilities I mentioned before and the extended msei18n
files on my homepage for download. The URL for download is
, where {filename} can be one of these:
CalcPad.zip the edit field a
Hello Sieghad.
Many thanks for your files.
I will deeply study it asap.
Write you later.
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Re-hello Sieghard.
> i18n_4.6.2.zip the msei18n program with command line control,
> based on the latest released version 4.6.2
>From what release are you talking ?
- From https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui ?
(The new mse-org release)
- Or from https://git
Hello fredvs,
you wrote on Wed, 22 May 2019 02:37:54 -0700 (MST):
> > i18n_4.6.2.zip the msei18n program with command line control,
..
> From what release are you talking ?
...
> - Or from https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/mseide-msegui ?
> (Official root release of Martin)
Probabely this
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