On 2022/08/28 14:15, void wrote:
I'm trying to get things so that emails composed and replied to in mutt
do not have to be manually edited with hard returns each time.
What I want is, if i'm typing in a line and it goes over 72 chars, to
newline at that point intelligently.
I've tried variat
gnize that the mutt temp file you are editing is of the
'mail' filetype, and it will in turn apply particular settings to edit that
file.
Vim looks in its $VIMRUNTIME path for a filetype plugin called 'mail.vim'. In
that file are settings to be used when editing mutt em
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 11:45:53AM -0700, Zach wrote:
loads of stuff to try
thank you :D I'll try that and post the results
--
g is of the
'mail' filetype, and it will in turn apply particular settings to edit that
file.
Vim looks in its $VIMRUNTIME path for a filetype plugin called 'mail.vim'. In
that file are settings to be used when editing mutt email, to include line wrap
settings, quote character
Hello mutt-users,
mutt is
2.2.7 (2022-08-07) with ncurses on freebsd current
vim is
VIM - Vi IMproved 9.0 (2022 Jun 28, compiled Aug 4 2022 02:42:28)
Included patches: 1-129
Compiled by root@main-arm64-default-job-11
Huge version without GUI.
I'm trying to get things so that emails compos
Hi Erik!
On Fr, 21 Nov 2014, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 20.11.14 14:09, Will Fiveash wrote:
> > If you are using vim you may want to add vim settings specific to
> > editing mail from within mutt to a file like
> > ~/.vim/ftplugin/mail/mail-settings.vim. vim will assign by default
> > the fil
On 20.11.14 14:09, Will Fiveash wrote:
> If you are using vim you may want to add vim settings specific to
> editing mail from within mutt to a file like
> ~/.vim/ftplugin/mail/mail-settings.vim. vim will assign by default
> the filetype "mail" to mutt editor files and look for plugins in
> ~/.vim
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 05:25:17PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> editing as follows does the wrap and does away with the plus sign
>
> set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap'"
> unset markers
If you are using vim you may want to add vim settings specific to
editing mail from
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 04:26:43PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 08:34:15PM +, John Long wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > read in the docs and on google
> > >
> > > this line in my ~/.slrnrc
> > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set w
On 20.11.14 16:32, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> The following is an alternative method, if you do not like the mode toggle:
>
> " Paste without needing pastetoggle to avoid staircase text, due to ai always
> set.
> " Works with "+y} in another vim instance. Also avoids wrapping.
> nnoremap "+p
> i
On 19.11.14 15:15, Dale wrote:
> set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap'"
>
> seems to wraps when I type or copy/paste into vim
If you have wrap enabled in vim, but do not want it active while typing
or pasting, then one easy way to "escape" those actions is to:
:se
I have been looking through mutt, nano and vim docs
and web pages for about 8 hours and I can't get this
any further than before
this is what was suggested and I added to my ~/.muttrc
set wrap=72
set smart_wrap
set editor="nano -r 75"
my terminal is set at 80x24
if I type less than 80 chars not
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 04:26:43PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
> not yet, when I type, as opposed to cut/paste, it wraps but it puts a plus
> sign in front of each line, this would be especially troublesome with URLs
>
set markers=no
That used to be at #markers in the manual, but a quick google
implie
On 2014-11-19, Dale wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 08:34:15PM +, John Long wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > read in the docs and on google
> > >
> > > this line in my ~/.slrnrc
> > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap'"
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 04:26:43PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 08:34:15PM +, John Long wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > read in the docs and on google
> > >
> > > this line in my ~/.slrnrc
> > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set w
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 08:34:15PM +, John Long wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > read in the docs and on google
> >
> > this line in my ~/.slrnrc
> > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap'"
> >
> > seems to wraps when I type or
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> read in the docs and on google
>
> this line in my ~/.slrnrc
> set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap'"
>
> seems to wraps when I type or copy/paste into vim
Problem solved!
> but when I read the message, Mutt
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> read in the docs and on google
>
> this line in my ~/.slrnrc
ofcourse I mean ~/.muttrc
having a problem with slrn/vim too
when I press W slrn puts a space in front of each wrapped line
having this discussion on the slrn list
> set editor="
read in the docs and on google
this line in my ~/.slrnrc
set editor="vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap'"
seems to wraps when I type or copy/paste into vim
but when I read the message, Mutt has a plus sign in front of each wrapped line
I will check the docs for line/word w
wrap, a $ comes up, then when I receive the message
> > a + is in front of the line where it is wrapped
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 02:12:27PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > >seem to have line wrap problems with
&
no -r 75"
> >
> > and it seems to work well.
>
> this works for things I "copy/cut and paste", but typing does
> not yet wrap, a $ comes up, then when I receive the message
> a + is in front of the line where it is wrapped
>
> thanks
>
>
> >
s for things I "copy/cut and paste", but typing does
not yet wrap, a $ comes up, then when I receive the message
a + is in front of the line where it is wrapped
thanks
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 02:12:27PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> >seem to have line wrap problems with
> >
I use nano which I think is the default editor in Ubuntu.
I have this in my .muttrc file:
set wrap=78
set smart_wrap
set editor="nano -r 75"
and it seems to work well.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 02:12:27PM -0500, Dale wrote:
seem to have line wrap problems with
nano and vi(vim?)
how
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 02:12:27PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> how can I fix this or use gedit,emacs
Not sure this is what you are asking for, but
set editor="emacs" # or something else
could do
-F
* Dale [11-18-14 14:16]:
> seem to have line wrap problems with
> nano and vi(vim?)
what kind of "problem" would that be?
> how can I fix this or use gedit,emacs
w/o knowing problem your question cannot be answered, but...
if "setting line length/wrap" is what yo
seem to have line wrap problems with
nano and vi(vim?)
how can I fix this or use gedit,emacs
thanks
--
(my whereabouts below)
http://www.dalekelly.org
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:15:49PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:44:17PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> > > Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting
> > > anymore. When you compare this
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:44:17PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> > Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting
> > anymore. When you compare this to the amount of bandwidth consumed
> > by things like streaming vide
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting
> anymore. When you compare this to the amount of bandwidth consumed
> by things like streaming video, it's a drop in the bucket.
Streaming video is specifically requested.
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 06:24:35PM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:06:03PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> > HTML provides all of the features [...]
>
> HTML also provides all of the bugs.
No, it doesn't. The implementation does.
> 1. It is very difficult to conduct a tech
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:06:03PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> HTML provides all of the features [...]
HTML also provides all of the bugs.
"Nothin's free." (c.f. "Crossfire", Stevie Ray Vaughan, 1989)
Several points (and these aren't exhaustive, merely illustrative):
1. It is very difficult to
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 06:27:42AM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> HTML email is sent exclusively by three groups of people:
>
> 1. Ignorant newbies
> 2. Ineducable morons
> 3. Spammers
>
> There are no exceptions.
This statement is complete and utter crap. I receive HTML mail
regularly from co
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make
> me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for.
Yes, it *does* make you an ignorant newbie, on the topic of "automotive
engine maintenance". (I'm o
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> >
> > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make
> > me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for.
>
> Umm, in the "car wor
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> > >
> > > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make
> > > me a newbie.
Sorry for continuing this flamewar,
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Nikola
Petrov wrote:
> Just because my mom doesn't want to wrap her
> text or use non html make her a worse/better
> person. She just doesn't care and wants her work
> done.
This exactly makes her a person who _doesn't
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> >
> > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make
> > me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for.
>
> Umm, in the "car wor
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 07:30:14AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote:
>
> Not all of us are IT professionals. Some of us are blacksmiths, gun
> salesmen, truck drivers, and even ecdysiasts.
Please don't group "IT professionals." and
standards/ettiquette/netiquette as one.
> "No exceptions"? Really?
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
>
> The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make
> me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for.
Umm, in the "car world" yes you'd be a newbie. Don't consider it a
derogatory term. We are all ne
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 07:30:14AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote:
> Ignorant newbies may at some point become the Michael Elkins of the
> future.
They may. And that would be an entirely good thing, for them and
for all of us.
But that doesn't preclude the fact that they're ignorant newbies *today*.
* Dale A. Raby [12-10-12 08:33]:
...
> I appologize ahead of time for this rant, but you see, I know what a DOS
> window is and I guess I'm getting ornery in my old age.
or cp/m and audio tape storage.
and *ignorance* |= stupid
but lacking in knowledge and perhaps *only* of a particular su
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> What about clients that you are doing support for?
That's so easy to handle, I'm surprised to see it asked (at least,
if you're using procmail). You create two (or more) rc files for
procmail. For example, I have a setup that look
Now just a cotton picking minute...
> HTML email is sent exclusively by three groups of people:
>
> 1. Ignorant newbies
> 2. Ineducable morons
> 3. Spammers
>
> There are no exceptions. It thus, to Jim's point, an excellent
> anti-spam/anti-stupidity technique to refuse all such traffic
> at t
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 06:27:42AM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:44:35PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
> > If you keep track, you'll probably find, as I have, that HTML-only
> > e-mail is between 99% to 100% spam.
>
> HTML email is sent exclusively by three groups of people:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:44:35PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
> If you keep track, you'll probably find, as I have, that HTML-only
> e-mail is between 99% to 100% spam.
HTML email is sent exclusively by three groups of people:
1. Ignorant newbies
2. Ineducable morons
3. Spammers
There are no excep
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 03:13:12AM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2012-12-01, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> The main Python mailing list gets regular posts from Google Groups.
> >> Those posts are always malformatted (the formattin
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 05:57:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> > I see now, how some of the posts in this thread seemed so weird! So
> > in this light, you'll see that the mutt-users mailing list just
> > happens to represent the majority of posters on mailing lists.
>
> Your conclusion seems to b
On 02.12.12 08:54, Peter Davis wrote:
> In my view, no amount of argument or evidence is going to change the
> minds of anyone in this smaller group. That's fine. Within the domain of
> lists that discuss these classic tools, we should adhere to the
> practices of that community.
Eureka! That is w
=- Peter Davis wrote on Sun 2.Dec'12 at 8:54:58 -0500 -=
> Ok, this, more than any of the previous discussion, clarifies the
> situation for me. Within the global community of hundreds of
> millions of email users, there's a smaller, cloistered
> constituency of perhaps a few thousand who prefer
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 06:12:32PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>
> That seems a more positive step than just plonking the barbarians at the
> gates who refuse to recognise the price of receiving free help. (And
> yes, even in this reply, we're doing your research and investigative
> thinking f
On 01.12.12 17:57, Peter Davis wrote:
> the 72-column wrapping "rule" and the non-HTML "rule" can hardly be
> considered "netiquette" except perhaps within this tiny circle.
> Otherwise they are, at best, quaint relics of an earlier era.
There are other bastions of consideration for the reader, no
On 2012-12-01, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> The main Python mailing list gets regular posts from Google Groups.
>> Those posts are always malformatted (the formatting seems to change
>> over the years, but it never actually gets better)
On 2012-12-02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Grant Edwards [12-01-12 11:07]:
>> On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> ...
>> > I am not explaining properly/sufficiently. Yahoo *requires* your posting
>> > addr matches your smtp.
>
>:^)
>
>> Ah, that's indeed quite different than what you wr
* Grant Edwards [12-01-12 11:07]:
> On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
...
> > I am not explaining properly/sufficiently. Yahoo *requires* your posting
> > addr matches your smtp.
:^)
> Ah, that's indeed quite different than what you wrote previously.
> Requring that the From: address ma
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 05:57:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> Apparently even proper conversational quoting is too complex for you
> to follow. I was responding to a comment on a comment on an earlier
> post of mine. Since I wrote that earlier post, I think I have a pretty
> good idea what it was
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 09:26:31AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:24:59AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> >
> > Actually, it wasn't about GMail at all. It was about the fact that
> > millions of email users don't care about line wrapping, or text/plain,
> > or any of these
[ Derek Martin Wrote On Sat 1.Dec'12 at 18:50:41 GMT ]
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:38:57AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
> > > And what you generally see, INCLUDING in the case which generated this
> > > thread, is a great deal of tolerance from the community for such things,
> > > followed b
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> The main Python mailing list gets regular posts from Google Groups.
> Those posts are always malformatted (the formatting seems to change
> over the years, but it never actually gets better). The ones that
> aren't just spam are alwa
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:24:59AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
>
> Actually, it wasn't about GMail at all. It was about the fact that
> millions of email users don't care about line wrapping, or text/plain,
> or any of these other 40 year old conventions. The mutt-users group
> just happens to repre
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:38:57AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
> > And what you generally see, INCLUDING in the case which generated this
> > thread, is a great deal of tolerance from the community for such things,
> > followed by polite requests to "please follow the local custom." What
> >
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:15:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Grant Edwards [11-30-12 21:13]:
> ...
> > I think the Yahoo list server can be used by anybody (I guess you have
> > to sign up for a Yahoo account, to do admin stuff). They offer a web
> > UI, but you don't actually have to
On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Grant Edwards [12-01-12 10:27]:
>> On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>>> Yahoo now requires posting from a yahoo account via their smtp or
>>> from their web service,
>>
>> Weird. I posted to a Yahoo list two weeks ago by sending an e-mail
>> vi
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:13:28AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> Pls excuse failing memory, you are correct. The problem with my posts to
> yahoo lists is I post with a gmail addr but SMTP via my isp, not gmail.
I can tell you what's happening, then. I had this problem for a while
with one
* Grant Edwards [12-01-12 10:27]:
> On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Grant Edwards [11-30-12 21:13]:
> > ...
> >> I think the Yahoo list server can be used by anybody (I guess you have
> >> to sign up for a Yahoo account, to do admin stuff). They offer a web
> >> UI, but you don't
On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Grant Edwards [11-30-12 21:13]:
> ...
>> I think the Yahoo list server can be used by anybody (I guess you have
>> to sign up for a Yahoo account, to do admin stuff). They offer a web
>> UI, but you don't actually have to use it -- you can subscribe t
On 2012-12-01, jim graham wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 02:12:03AM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote:
>
>> > announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack)
> []
>> > It's a google groups list.
>
>> If needed I can change the killfile rule s
* Tony's unattended mail [12-01-12 05:43]:
> On 2012-12-01, Rado Q wrote:
> >=- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Sat 1.Dec'12 at 8:38:57 + -=
> >
> >> Long lines != the end of the world. Simple as that.
> >
> > ... _for you_.
> > But it can mean the beginning of the end for efficient
> > communi
* Jim Graham [12-01-12 00:06]:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:15:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> > Yahoo now requires posting from a yahoo account via their smtp or from
> > their web service, since last year some time. I have dropped all but one
> > group, but only read. I refuse to use
* On 01 Dec 2012, Tony's unattended mail wrote:
>
> Regardless of which standards a mutt user endorses, a good quality
> tool is lenient in what it accepts, handles it well, while being
> strict in what it produces.
Yes, that's generally our principle.
> Yet mutt is not good at handling common
=- Tony's unattended mail wrote on Sat 1.Dec'12 at 10:41:11 + -=
> Jamie actually did this list a service. Overly sheltered mutt
> users have a tendancy to lose touch. Jamie's post actually exposed
> a mutt characteristic that can be improved.
a) improving mutt is good: go ahead.
b) this doe
On 2012-12-01, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
>
> ... and I agree completely. As I wrote, I now wrap my lines and will
> make extra effort to ensure message formatting conforms so they are
> more readable. I don't like upsetting people, and I have taken on
> board all the valid and sensible points rais
On 2012-12-01, Rado Q wrote:
>=- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Sat 1.Dec'12 at 8:38:57 + -=
>
>> Long lines != the end of the world. Simple as that.
>
> ... _for you_.
> But it can mean the beginning of the end for efficient
> communication, when everybody starts caring less and less for it by
[ Rado S Wrote On Sat 1.Dec'12 at 9:17:29 GMT ]
> =- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Sat 1.Dec'12 at 8:38:57 + -=
>
> > Long lines != the end of the world. Simple as that.
>
> ... _for you_.
> But it can mean the beginning of the end for efficient
> communication, when everybody starts carin
=- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Sat 1.Dec'12 at 8:38:57 + -=
> Long lines != the end of the world. Simple as that.
... _for you_.
But it can mean the beginning of the end for efficient
communication, when everybody starts caring less and less for it by
introducing (and trying to establish) a
[ Derek Martin Wrote On Fri 30.Nov'12 at 17:17:22 GMT ]
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:23:58PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
> > There could be any number of reasons why someone might
> > not compose a perfect message: there could be learning difficulties,
> > some other physical impairment, some
[ Grant Edwards Wrote On Fri 30.Nov'12 at 18:20:00 GMT ]
> On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think it was about sending mail through a .gmail address; it
> >> was about using the GMail web thingy to compose the mail
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:15:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> Yahoo now requires posting from a yahoo account via their smtp or from
> their web service, since last year some time. I have dropped all but one
> group, but only read. I refuse to use their web service.
Strange...because one
* Grant Edwards [11-30-12 21:13]:
...
> I think the Yahoo list server can be used by anybody (I guess you have
> to sign up for a Yahoo account, to do admin stuff). They offer a web
> UI, but you don't actually have to use it -- you can subscribe to it
> using any e-mail address by using the us
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 02:12:03AM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote:
> > announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack)
[]
> > It's a google groups list.
> If needed I can change the killfile rule so that it doesn't apply to a
> particular gr
On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> I killfiled all postings from google groups years ago...
>
> Well, I suppose you'll never be on my list, then (it's a support and
> announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStr
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I killfiled all postings from google groups years ago...
Well, I suppose you'll never be on my list, then (it's a support and
announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack)
that I wrote back in ca. 1996, and con
On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote:
>
>> I don't think it was about sending mail through a .gmail address; it
>> was about using the GMail web thingy to compose the mail being sent,
>
> People actually USE that POS!?
Definitely.
Most o
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> I don't think it was about sending mail through a .gmail address; it
> was about using the GMail web thingy to compose the mail being sent,
People actually USE that POS!? The e-mail lists (now only one left)
that I've created all ha
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:23:58PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
> There could be any number of reasons why someone might
> not compose a perfect message: there could be learning difficulties,
> some other physical impairment, someone very young and new to the
> concept of technical mailing list
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 02:11:56PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:14:31PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > KMail and Kontact (calendar) integrate fairly well. Calendars share
> > dates.
>
> That's client software, isn't it?
>
> I'm not talking about client softwar
[ruminations on a "GMail Killer"]
I wonder if the feeling is not so much being daunted by Google, but
rather that the thought of building a GMail Killer is not very
interesting. I find that Open Source projects tend to assign small
value to competition, preferring to do what no one else is doing.
On 2012-11-30, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14:25AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
>> > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
>> > for members who tend towards old school tools and techno
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14:25AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> > > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
> > > for members who tend toward
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14:25AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
> > for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt
> > users are obviously more
[ Will Yardley Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 19:54:15 GMT ]
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
> > for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt
> > users are obviously more li
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:27:13AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Jim Graham [11-29-12 11:16]:
> Perhaps the same as for a hotmail/yahoo/ms/aol/... address. Years past
Well yeah, I remember those...never used them because I knew they were
useless from day one (except yahoo, before I found o
* Will Yardley [11-29-12 17:14]:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:14:31PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > KMail and Kontact (calendar) integrate fairly well. Calendars share
> > dates.
>
> That's client software, isn't it?
>
> I'm not talking about client software - I'm talking about the to
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:14:31PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> KMail and Kontact (calendar) integrate fairly well. Calendars share
> dates.
That's client software, isn't it?
I'm not talking about client software - I'm talking about the tools to
build a "Gmail killer", or even an "Exchang
* Will Yardley [11-29-12 14:54]:
...
>
> One of the thing that bugs me is that, both on the backend side, and on
> the UI side, it seems like the open source folks have given up even
> trying to create an integrated system (i.e., not a bunch of stuff stuck
> together with duct tape and glue) tha
* Grant Edwards [11-29-12 14:52]:
> On 2012-11-29, Peter Davis wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14:25AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
> >> ... so
> >> how is having a .gmail address so bad? I'm very curious at this point.
> >>
> >
> > Sorry if I was unclear. The vast majority of email users, ma
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
> for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt
> users are obviously more likely to be strict about text-only,
> 72-column wrapped messages t
On 2012-11-29, Peter Davis wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14:25AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
>> ... so
>> how is having a .gmail address so bad? I'm very curious at this point.
>>
>
> Sorry if I was unclear. The vast majority of email users, many of whom
> are using GMail (or Yahoo or some ot
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:14:25AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
> ... so
> how is having a .gmail address so bad? I'm very curious at this point.
>
Sorry if I was unclear. The vast majority of email users, many of whom
are using GMail (or Yahoo or some other popular free email service) do
not care a
* Jim Graham [11-29-12 11:16]:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
> > for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt
> > users are obviously more likely to be strict about t
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects
> for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt
> users are obviously more likely to be strict about text-only,
> 72-column wrapped messages t
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