On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the
fan happens to fail, or if the
On Monday 27 January 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 11:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU
On Monday 27 Jan 2003 3:31 pm, et wrote:
On Monday 27 January 2003 04:04 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 11:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
mention a
Paul wrote:
Yup, no problem. I am of course NOT going to twiddle the running drives
around, but they function wonderfully either on the side or straight up.
changing hd position was meant to be after power off and spin down. i have seen
drives develop problems and only run at new angle. i
1/26/03 1:46:32 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply to Stephen's mail, d.d. 26 Jan 2003 12:21:17 +1100:
What if there is a mercury switch in either the PSU or somewhere
within
the casing itself that would cause this?
I have been thinking about this also, but I have not been able to
On Sunday 26 January 2003 02:43 am, Paul wrote:
In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:56:31 +:
knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after
first.
#1 = power supply:
does fan
On Sunday January 26 2003 01:43 am, Paul wrote:
Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm).
The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows
29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in
Gkrellm correctly, but this is what I also could see (plus or
Paul wrote:
No, it keeps going.
No. There is still power on the mainboard led and the leds of the network
cards.
Both. Same result.
Yes and yes.
No, it is not. I cannot imagine that it does. I can leave the PC off for 2
hours, which should be enough to cool off most parts. When I
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 2:17 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Sunday January 26 2003 01:43 am, Paul wrote:
Yes, they both show on LM Sensors (through Gkrellm).
The CPU (Athlon 1200) shows 78C (149F) and something else shows
29.2C (75.5F). I am not sure if I set the multiplier readings in
Gkrellm
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 5:04 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Sunday January 26 2003 09:11 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
Tom - I'm not doubting you, and I'll certainly keep this post for
reference, but how is that affected by orientation? Why would it
run longer if on its side?
Anne
Heat rises
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
*snip*
Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I
do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing of
the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try to deal with
those
On Sunday 26 Jan 2003 5:47 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:28 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
*snip*
Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7. I
do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say nothing
of the fact that I have a heart
1/26/03 10:24:16 AM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:05:48 +:
from your replies, it is now to decide if problems is with
mainboard
or if you have a harddrive problem.
with box in normal upright position, put harddrive on it's side.
does system
On Sun, January 26 2003 11:49 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
*snip*
Thanks for the explanation. Yes, my Athlon 900 runs around 50C, 24x7.
I do worry about the weight of current heatsinks and fans - to say
nothing of the fact that I have a heart attack every time I have to try
to deal with
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
Well.. for starters, P4's have MUCH better thermal resistance, not to
mention a thermal diode that can regulate the core CPU temperature if the
fan happens to fail, or if the heatsink happens to fall off.. Many 3rd
party tests have shown
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:49:45 +:
And see.. this is why I spent the extra 20 bucks and bought a Pentium IV
1.6, instead of the Athlon 1800 (which runs at 1400mhz I think)
No, I don't see. Why?
I guess these do not suffer from 'overweight problems' of fans. ;)
On Sun, January 26 2003 5:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
*snip*
Thats interesting. I always thought that AMDs' chips were better performers
at the same speed rangefrom what I've read. (but I'm no expert).
Really dependant upon what your doing, AMD's ARE better performance/mhz
usually.. but..
On Sun, January 26 2003 1:03 pm, Paul wrote:
*snip*
I guess these do not suffer from 'overweight problems' of fans. ;)
Paul
No, it's because P4's don't overheat.. period. They throttle their clock
speed, to reduce heat. if they detect overheating, so where thermal
management on an Athlon
On Sunday January 26 2003 05:12 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:06 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
prevents the core temp. from reaching critical levels.. (Not to
mention the 400-533mhz cache speeds, compared to athlon's measly
200mhz.. :p)
Thats interesting. I always
Okay... I tried every trick in the book (and outside of it). And it is
still a riddle.
I just about took the entire machine apart again, put it back together
with basically just the video card and the mainboard. No CDRom, no
soundcard, no nothing. Standing upright it collapses within 15 minutes.
On Saturday 25 Jan 2003 8:00 pm, wrote:
Okay... I tried every trick in the book (and outside of it). And it is
still a riddle.
I just about took the entire machine apart again, put it back together
with basically just the video card and the mainboard. No CDRom, no
soundcard, no nothing.
In reply to Anne's mail, d.d. Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:10:26 +:
There's only one solution, then. Pretend your tower was a desktop all
along :)
Woohahahahaa!!! It is a tower with a bad back! ;)
Thanks for the grin.
Paul
--
The more we live by our intellect,
the less we understand the meaning of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
moment the PC is on its side again and it runs. Since 5 minutes now, but
I am confident that it will stay up.
knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after first.
#1 =
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 11:56, g wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
moment the PC is on its side again and it runs. Since 5 minutes now, but
I am confident that it will stay up.
knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
if it is still running, i would suggest
In reply to g's mail, d.d. Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:56:31 +:
knowledge of your back broke desktop/tower contents would be helpful.
if it is still running, i would suggest 3 possible problems to go after
first.
#1 = power supply:
does fan stop?
No, it keeps going.
do you lose all voltages?
In reply to Stephen's mail, d.d. 26 Jan 2003 12:21:17 +1100:
What if there is a mercury switch in either the PSU or somewhere within
the casing itself that would cause this?
I have been thinking about this also, but I have not been able to find a
switch like that. More and more I feel that this
Hello all,
Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers off
immediately after switching it on). When it lies on the side, the system
keeps running without a problem when switched on.
Already had
3:30 PM
To: newbie
Subject: [newbie] OT: hardware weirdness
Hello all,
Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers
off
immediately after switching it on). When it lies on the side, the system
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 3:29 pm, Paul wrote:
Hello all,
Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers off
immediately after switching it on). When it lies on the side, the system
keeps running
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:05 pm, David Robertson wrote:
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 3:29 pm, Paul wrote:
Hello all,
Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers
off immediately after switching it
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Don't you do that when you're checking on hardware jobs you've just done?
I always do before righting it and closing the case.
Anne
Well, no. but maybe that's because I'm not a computer professional!
I'm a gynaecologist, actually.
In reply to David's mail, d.d. Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:05:24 +:
Um, can't even begin to think of a reason, other than a loose connection
somewhere. If you've looked at all the internals, maybe there's a probelm
with the power cable?
I suspect some loose connection 'somewhere'. The stranger it
- Original Message -
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: hardware weirdness
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:32 pm, David Robertson wrote:
On Friday 24 Jan 2003 4:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Don't you do
In reply to et's mail, d.d. Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:41:39 -0500:
describe further... the pci cards sit horzontal and mother board vertical,
when you say When it lies on the side. and when you say it won't boot
properly (powers off immediately after switching it on) does power off
mean no ac at all?
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 02:29, Paul wrote:
Hello all,
Forgive this OT post, but can someone point me into the right direction?
My PC is going nuts. When it is upright, it won't boot properly (powers off
immediately after switching it on). When it lies on the side, the system
keeps running
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