Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-04 Thread John Richard Smith
Much has been written on this thread about, Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem Netgear DM602 router/modem but a preliminary search on some uk suppliers this afternoon suggests the Netgear DM602 router/modem is no longer available here in the uk. The model most often suggested is the, NETGEAR DG834

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-04 Thread PM
On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 18:35, John Richard Smith wrote: Much has been written on this thread about, Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem Netgear DM602 router/modem but a preliminary search on some uk suppliers this afternoon suggests the Netgear DM602 router/modem is no longer available here in

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-04 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 04 Sep 2004 4:35 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Of course this equipement isn't only a router/modem but also a 4 port 10/100 LAN switch. I could just about cope with a 4port put this leaves me with no room for expansion. I already have a DES1008D 8 port D-link . Is it then possible

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-04 Thread John Richard Smith
PM wrote: On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 18:35, John Richard Smith wrote: Much has been written on this thread about, Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem Netgear DM602 router/modem but a preliminary search on some uk suppliers this afternoon suggests the Netgear DM602 router/modem is no longer available here

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Poogle
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 20:31, Margot wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK then I bow to experience. Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the network MCC still asks a lot of questions you don't know the answers to,

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Margot
Margot wrote: I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they assure me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech support didn't scream in horror when I asked!). They don't supply a modem. Can anyone

RE: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Tony S. Sykes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:31 pm, Margot wrote: Bryan Phinney

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread John Richard Smith
Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 04:39 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: . So then I need to network my other computers via this 8-pot 10/100Mbps switch DES-1008D, the so called D-Link, that is not so easy ? from each computer run the D-Link software

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Margot
Tony S. Sykes wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Brinkman Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:31 pm, Margot wrote: Bryan

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Friday 03 September 2004 04:14, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: snip Can anyone recommend any books or online resources on hardware? VERY basic level please - along the lines of 'how not to ruin a perfectly good computer by sticking a screwdriver in the wrong place'! Many thanks to all who

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-03 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 03 September 2004 05:14 am, Margot wrote: lotsa snipping I need to develop some hardware expertise. I've signed up with the local Adult Education Centre for 2 short courses designed for hardware 'newbies' - one on PC Upgrade and one on Home Networking. Good plan. By December, I

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Poogle
On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 23:02, Margot wrote: I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they assure me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech support didn't scream in horror when I asked!). They

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem. Personally, I would go for the Netgear if I were you, it will hook up to your ethernet card and

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 02:22, Margot wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can anyone

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 11:46, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem. Personally, I would go for the

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
PM wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 11:46, John Richard Smith wrote: But that means you must have a fully configured ethernet card to go with your choice of the Netgear DM602 router/modem, doesn't it ? John I bought the first/cheapest and had no problems - turned out to have a RealTek

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 13:29, John Richard Smith wrote: PM wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 11:46, John Richard Smith wrote: But that means you must have a fully configured ethernet card to go with your choice of the Netgear DM602 router/modem, doesn't it ? John I bought

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem. Personally, I would go

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 12:49, PM wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 02:22, Margot wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 02 September 2004 06:29 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Do you mean to say that the system itself only had to recognise the ethonet card for the router/modem to work, you didn't have to spend hours and hours in badly documented procedural to get the ethonet card configured properly

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330 USB DSL modem as well as the Netgear DM602 router/modem. Personally,

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:54, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
PM wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:54, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 02 September 2004 05:54 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: According to their web page, they support the Speedtouch 330

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 02 September 2004 06:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: PM wrote: On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:54, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:46 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote:

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK then I bow to experience. Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the network MCC still asks a lot of questions you don't know the answers to, and without those answers it don't work. Of course that is trying to

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am, John Richard Smith wrote: OK then I bow to experience. Only I found in the device easy enough, but the with the network MCC still asks a lot of questions you don't know the answers to, and without those answers it don't work. Of

RE: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Tony S. Sykes
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Richard Smith Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 09:27 am

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 02 September 2004 11:01 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I see , dynamic host control protocol DHCP, is actually built into the router/modem itself and as such knows how to set istelf up dynamically. I didn't understand that, and couldn't see how it was gonna be done by MCC, without

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Bryan Phinney wrote: Since the router/modem is equivalent to any other type of ethernet connection, you would hook it up and configure it exactly the same way you would to any other router, right? Assuming that you are using the Dlink device now, hooking it up to the broadband modem as opposed

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:24 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I see, so the D-ling is the switch that just about everything gets plugged into. Now that I've taken a second look at the diagramme on the back of the D-Link box it shows that the modem, in your suggested case, the router/modem

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 22:19, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 10:24 am, John Richard Smith wrote: I don't have this actually working yet , been waiting until affordable decent quality broadband comes into use in UK. Everything takes for ever in UK. They never market for the

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 22:31, Margot wrote: Right now, I can afford the broadband service plus the USB modem. I'd have to save up for another 2-3 months to go for the other option. I'd appreciate your opinion on this - will the ease of use of the ethernet option be worth the wait and the

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Derek Jennings
SNIP As I said in my original message, I need a solution that doesn't involve screwdrivers - not just because I'm a girl (!) but I have ME - the combination of brainfog plus physical limitations means that installing anything that involves taking the case off the box is beyond my

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread PM
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 00:05, Derek Jennings wrote: Margot I can confirm the Alcatel Speedtouch does work with Mandrake. I do not have one myself, but I have set one up for a friend. It IS more complicated to get a USB Speedtouch working than a DSL router, but it is certainly possible to

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 9:33 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: ... Paul and Bryan are givin you the best advice. Which is why I've stayed out of this till now. https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ I try not to do this, but me too. Get an ethernet ADSL router that is firewall configured out of the box, (unless

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 3:07 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 05:54 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: MCC will configure your card real nice When you say configured, that is as a card recognised by the systen and a device to be used by the system,

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 10:10 pm, PM wrote: On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 00:05, Derek Jennings wrote: Margot I can confirm the Alcatel Speedtouch does work with Mandrake. I do not have one myself, but I have set one up for a friend. It IS more complicated to get a USB Speedtouch working than a

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 02 September 2004 22:10, PM wrote: On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 00:05, Derek Jennings wrote: Margot I can confirm the Alcatel Speedtouch does work with Mandrake. I do not have one myself, but I have set one up for a friend. It IS more complicated to get a USB Speedtouch working

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 02 September 2004 03:31 pm, Margot wrote: We seem to be drifting a bit here... As I said in my original message, I need a solution that doesn't involve screwdrivers - not just because I'm a girl (!) but I have ME - the combination of brainfog plus physical limitations means that

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread SME Server Admin
On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 23:02, Margot wrote: I've managed to track down what looks to be an ethical and reasonably-priced Broadband provider - www.thephone.coop - they assure me that their service will work with Linux (and their tech support didn't scream in horror when I asked!). They

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Margot wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm currently with Wanadoo for my dialup and I'm keen to leave them as soon as possible because I'm in the middle of a major row with them - they recently introduced spam filtering, and it is complete chaos - legitimate mail is not only being marked

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Aron Smith wrote: . So then I need to network my other computers via this 8-pot 10/100Mbps switch DES-1008D, the so called D-Link, that is not so easy ? from each computer run the D-Link software ez as pi John Aron you got me there , whats with, D-Link software ez as pi ? John

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread John Richard Smith
Margot wrote: We seem to be drifting a bit here... As I said in my original message, I need a solution that doesn't involve screwdrivers - not just because I'm a girl (!) but I have ME - the combination of brainfog plus physical limitations means that installing anything that involves taking

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:19 pm, Richard Urwin wrote: On Thursday 02 Sep 2004 3:07 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2004 05:54 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: MCC will configure your card real nice When you say configured, that is as a card

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 02 September 2004 04:39 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Aron Smith wrote: . So then I need to network my other computers via this 8-pot 10/100Mbps switch DES-1008D, the so called D-Link, that is not so easy ? from each computer run the D-Link software ez as pi John Aron

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual booting)? Preferably an external one, as I'm not confident with screwdrivers! Or, are there any I should

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread flesh.99
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with Win 98SE, as I'm now dual booting)? Preferably an

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10 (and with

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread Margot
Richard Urwin wrote: On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can anyone recommend one which will definitely work with Mandrake 10

Re: [newbie] Modem needed for UK Broadband

2004-09-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 04:22 pm, Margot wrote: Richard Urwin wrote: On Wednesday 01 Sep 2004 11:55 pm, flesh.99 wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:40:17 -0400, Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2004 06:02 pm, Margot wrote: They don't supply a modem. Can