users don't like linux (and most of us started as
experianced windows users.)
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From: Richie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Sorry, my
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From: Richie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Sorry, my message wan't pointed directly at you,,,
On November 25, 2001 10:33 am, Franki wrote:
Firstly, I wasn't talking
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 04:23, you wrote:
In addition, we use integrated menus so that the desktop you try
tomorrow will have a familiar menu arrangement and you don't have to be
running KDE to use KMail or Konqueror or GNOME to use GNUCash or Galeon.
In this structure we are consistent
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 03:47 am, Michel Clasquin wrote:
And after all that, I go and use Xfce and maintain the menus by hand!
``vi ~/.enlightenment/user_apps.menu'' seems to be the most useful menuconfig
tool on my box.
One in every crowd, huh?
Two.
- C
Want to buy your Pack or
Oh, me oh my, where to get started...
On November 25, 2001 01:18 pm, you wrote:
First, the 'hunting for libraries' complaint is moot: I have yet to look
any
further than my own LM install disks for libraries-- LM is probably
better than many distros out there as they actually provide
Sorry, my message wan't pointed directly at you,,,
On November 25, 2001 10:33 am, Franki wrote:
Firstly, I wasn't talking about me.. I was refering to people unfamiliar
with the proceedure..
That's the point I was trying to make, it's the lack of familiarity, not a
problem inherent to
One comment I feel the need to respond to is the suggestion that we put
things in weird places.
There is a Linux Standard Base, and there is a File Hierarchical Standard
adopted and we comply with it. We have had to move many things to do that
over the last several distros, but we are there.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tek1
Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 12:49 AM
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i think that one of the major reasons why linux hasn't succeeded on the
desktop yet is partially
At present I use both 8.1 and Win98SE and IMHO in every area where it
counts 8.1 is better with the exception of installation of software. As
you said what we need is some standardized features including an
installer along the lines of those used in Windows. The rest of the time
the
On Sunday 25 November 2001 04:26, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
There is nothing I would like to see than Linux becoming the main OS on
the PC market. I wish it well and hope that it's popularity grows from
strength to strength in the future. Unfortunatly after my vacation into
the world of
On Sunday 25 November 2001 12:43, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
at the moment the diversity of Linux is its downfall, why should anyone
want one killer app when you can have 5 half finished ones, 2 main
desktops toolkits, several office suits
(none of which talk the
industry standard MS office) ad
On Sunday 25 November 2001 11:43, you wrote:
at the moment the diversity of Linux is its downfall, why should anyone
want one killer app when you can have 5 half finished ones, 2 main desktops
toolkits, several office suits (none of which talk the industry standard
MS office) ad nausea
to
getting things on a more even footing..
rgds
Frank
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i think that one of the major
Firstly, I wasn't talking about me.. I was refering to people unfamiliar
with the proceedure..
I have always managed to get things going.. but I know a shitload of people
that haven't been able to.
snip
..Wow, what a lazy bunch of buggers!
/snip
First, the 'hunting for libraries' complaint is
Just because something is different doesn't mean it should automatically
be harder. As easy as RPM's are to use they still aren't as good as
installing something on Windows or the Mac OS. You shouldn't need to
hunt for an extra anything not even if its as close as your own CD. It
wouldn't be
On Sunday 25 November 2001 06:45 am, you wrote:
On Sunday 25 November 2001 04:26, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
There is nothing I would like to see than Linux becoming the main OS on
the PC market. I wish it well and hope that it's popularity grows from
strength to strength in the future.
RPM's may not be perfect, but when you install a new app on winders
the chance is it will overwrite an existing DLL and screw something
else. You pays your money (or not in the case of Linux) and takes
your choice.
--
Regards
Pete
On Sunday 25 November 2001 16:34 pm, NDPTAL85 wrote:
Just
[stewart]
i agree, marketing also does play an important part, and in the public eye,
everyone knows microsoft. and yes, linux has grown by leaps and bounds in
10 yrs, and ms should be better considering that they've been around longer.
[michael]
i think that you misinterpreted what i said.
and it was a steap
curve for me) mandrake by comparison is
mostly a breeze.
rgds
Frank
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Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 11:01 AM
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[stewart]
i agree
First, the 'hunting for libraries' complaint is moot: I have yet to look
any
further than my own LM install disks for libraries-- LM is probably better
than many distros out there as they actually provide you with more than
one
install CD and all the stuff they offer has been compiled for a
newbies shouldn't have to use the shell prompt to install
something.
exactly - we dont have GUI's just for fun, if the GUI tools dont provide the
power of there shell counterparts, then why the hell not!!
windows is almost exclusivly gui, and there is no end of extremly
complicated and
Naa, windows is a dying OS that will never be.
On Saturday 24 November 2001 08:26 pm, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
Hi all,
About 16 months ago I was using Linux 100%. By that I mean that there was
no other operating system to be found on my hard drive. Unfortunatly I had
to reinstall Windows
Rick, you remind me of a child of say,,sixteen, who believes the world they
have seen is it, and views the universe as beeing all from their (limited)
perspective. M$winders is not how _I_ think the world should look, _I_ want
to decide, and I am willing to allow that one mans cluster f#ck is
Rick, you remind me of a child of say,,sixteen, who believes the world
they
have seen is it, and views the universe as beeing all from their (limited)
perspective. M$winders is not how _I_ think the world should look, _I_
want
to decide, and I am willing to allow that one mans cluster f#ck is
Ummm, where did that come from? Calm it down a bit please.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Tharp
Sent: 25 November 2001 20:03
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Subject: Re: [newbie] The problem with Linux
Rick, you remind me
Better is a subjective term. Not all would agree. Copying MS isn't the
goal. Coming to a parity with the Windows UI (Or Mac OS) in terms of
ease of use is. That is the difference.
On Sunday, November 25, 2001, at 07:48 PM, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Monday 26 November 2001 01:19, you wrote:
Some interesting point here, generally I agree with what you say.
However you must not forget that M$ is where it is today NOT because of
good software but because of a history of sharp practice in marketing
that stretches back almost to the foundation of the company.One of thier
best departments
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