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2009-08-17 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
On our new pci requirement they want the staff to be on some security update lists. I went to cisecurity.org and sans.org and didn't see anything special. I used to be on ntbugtraq and I suppose I could sign them up for the Microsoft ones (they are 100% MS shop), just wondering what else people

Re: OT: Obsolete TechS

2009-08-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Total bunk. Expect this to be on Snopes if its spreads enough. No links. No references. No comments allowed to the post. About page 404's. -- ME2 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Jonathan Link wrote: > Bunk. > No links to the study.  Keywords used to spread FUD: may, expect, data is a > me

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
Well, then anyone should be free to use whatever undocumented interfaces exist in Windows to do "clever things" in the kernel, and so on. I thought we'd gotten past that stage. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 18 August 2009 1

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
-Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: >> Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? > Actually, not really. We're small. (There's a couple MSDE instance

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > The fact that you can't edit an ESE database is _good_. On this, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm of the opinion that if I own something, I should be able to do anything I want with it, including break it. I also believe that (to

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
The fact that you can't edit an ESE database is _good_. Can you imagine the chaos if you were able to go in an AD or Exchange or DHCP or WINS or Windows Search or Windows Security Policy or SharePoint 2000 etc database and change some arbitrary data? I guarantee you it would NOT be pretty. Ther

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Cook wrote: > If they choose to ignor what I instruct them > to do how is that not stupid? If it's simply a question of not following instructions, perhaps. I may have been taking your comments in broader context than you intended. This discussion is ba

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Sam Cayze
> What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive > amount of engineering work in that space - I don't expect it's going anywhere. Yeah, and much needed work. I'm part of that group surprised they didn't move to from ESE to SQL finally in Exch 10. They spend so much time twe

RE: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Sam Cayze
Oops. Misread the post. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Sam Cayze wrote: > [MKLINK] > It wor

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote: > Ultimately, it's a factor of single-instance storage. It seems to me that, in the general case, it should be possible to have both SIS and individual element restores. Assume SIS is implemented as a reference counted system of blobs, wit

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? Actually, not really. We're small. (There's a couple MSDE instances, and a Firebird instance, all in support of various applications, but they're more "embedded" then something

Re: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 18 Aug 2009 at 10:19, James Hill wrote: > You could write a script to restart the service then you can > connect. I have the VNC service set to restart itself if it dies. I just tested it here and the uvnc_server service restarts itself when I kill it from taskmgr. However, if yo

Re: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Sam Cayze wrote: > [MKLINK] > It works with UNC paths.  Included in Win7. He said he's on 2003. Which doesn't support symbolic links. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
Hmm - do you use a DBMS (like SQL Server or Oracle) as well? Most of those are binary blobs. Or do you prefer a DBMS that stores records in single files on the disk? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 18 August 2009 1:44 AM To: NT

RE: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Sam Cayze
MKLINK [[/D] | [/H] | [/J]] Link Target http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753194%28WS.10%29.aspx It works with UNC paths. Included in Win7. Sam MKLINK [[/D] | [/H] | [/J]] Link Target /D - Creates a directory symbolic link. Default to file symbolic link. /H - Creates a hard link

Re: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:26 PM, wrote: > Thant mounts it as a network drive, which > carbonite will not back up. Then you're hosed. Complain to whoever publishes Carbonite. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Groups
Thant mounts it as a network drive, which carbonite will not back up. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM, wr

Re: Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM, wrote: > But I cant seem to find a way to mount a > \\network drive in Windows 2003. NET USE N: \\server\share ? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

Symbolic Link to SMB in Windows 2003

2009-08-17 Thread Groups
I'm trying to get Carbonite to backup a network drive. In Windows 7, I can mount the drive with mklink and all is fine. But I cant seem to find a way to mount a \\network drive in Windows 2003. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a res

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Ultimately, it's a factor of single-instance storage. The various add-on products that facilitate the restore of a single mailbox, by and large, undo single-instance storage. -ASB On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > The inability to easily restore a single mailbox is not a g

RE: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
H Users can end processes that run under their own context. But a regular user isn't going to be able to end processes that run under some other identity surely? As Brian has said - you can ACL processes, just like any other securable object in Windows Cheers Ken From: asbz...@gmail.com

RE: 70-646 exam?

2009-08-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
646 is a bit broader. 649 was released when Win2k8 was still pre-RTM, and it pretty much only covers the three sub-areas (networking, IIS&TS, AD). The 646/647 exams are a bit broader and cover more of Win2k8 technologies (Hyper-V, Clustering etc) Cheers Ken From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:chr

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Agreed restoring mailboxes isn't that hard. I have worked with many, many organizations which have a no mailbox restore process except for legal reasons. Retention is a big deal these days and it's something every employee has to participate in. I've worked in several places where it's suitably

RE: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Well you can have a startup script or something set an ACL on the process object so they can't modify it. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Robert Smith [mailto:exch...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Pre

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Cook
I continuously coach users on filing anything important and not useing the deleted items as storage. I do this personally with every new employee. They have been explained to in detail as to what constitutes important mail. We don't archive for their benefit, we do it for CYA regulatory reasons.

RE: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread James Hill
You could write a script to restart the service then you can connect. In a previous life we actually left the service stopped so there was no tray icon (can't remember what mix of vnc it was but it didn't have a "no tray icon" option from memory) and then just remotely started it when we wanted

Re: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Robert Smith wrote: > We have users who are killing the vnc process in task manager which is > preventing management from viewing the users screens. Fire them. Actually, just firing one or two should do the trick. Most of the rest should see the writing on t

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:20 PM, John Cook wrote: > Sure, I get the point ... I'm not sure you do... > ... it all boils down to storage. Or design. The inability to easily restore a single mailbox is not a good thing. Maybe there are tech trade-offs that make that design limitation nece

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
+1 I have only used it twice, when it was a serious issue. They stick with you and they get it fixed, and the price is very reasonable as far as I am concerned. From: John Gwinner [jgwin...@dazsi.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:46 PM To: NT System A

Re: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Robert Smith
Thanks Brian, We have users who are killing the vnc process in task manager which is preventing management from viewing the users screens. The reason why they need to be able to manually kill some processes, is due to the installed accounting software that crashes quite often. Thanks, Bob On M

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Gwinner
I'd have to agree with that. Also, with Exchange 2003, with Ninja, I never had a problem with the mail stores and viruses. We did have a problem with a RAID array that dropped - the entire array. Logs were on a different array. I immediately made a call to Microsoft and opened a critical c

Re: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread asbzone
I'm going to say "no" If they have enough rights to kill *some* processes, they'll be able to kill almost all of them. There will be a few that the OS protects specially, but everything else will be fair game. (And I have to remember if the OS protects anything under XP) Sent from my Verizo

RE: Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
You can applies ACLs to processes so, sure. Without some context though that's about all I can offer... Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Comparing Exchange today (especially vNext) to 5.5 is a really inappropriate comparison. The product has evolved very very much since then. Taking away the transaction log of ANY database (regardless of if it's Exchange or not) will break it, guaranteed. That's not an Exchange issue, that's an

Antivirus vendors losing the battle

2009-08-17 Thread Kurt Buff
Most viruses only live 24 hours? http://blog.damballa.com/?p=311 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

Preventing users from ending a specific process (WinXP)

2009-08-17 Thread Robert Smith
Is it possible to prevent users from ending a particular process on a WinXP SP2 workstation. The catch to this is that they need to be able to end other processes in the event of an app locking up. Thanks, Bob ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Cook
Sure, I get the point and it all boils down to storage. There has to be a reason there are so many Exchange installations out there and it's not because they were the first mail server on the block. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry

Re: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Eric Woodford
never had a phone installed in car, but work provided one of those brick sized cell phones that had the enormous black power cables. Didn't have a cig lighter in my first car, so couldn't charge it. laser disk - never owned, but the list says 'watched' and have done that. My wife's classroom actua

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, John Cook wrote: > It's called "Dumpster always on" and restore deleted items > in OWA and if they need an email they deleted past the retention > window then it falls under the "I can't save you from your own stupidity" > heading. Meanwhile, another mail system

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, John Bowles wrote: > Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a > platform outside of Exchange, Lotus or Sendmail is just asking for trouble. That much resistance to change is not a healthy attitude for any business. Just ask Novell

RE: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
Just courious, wonder if the high power flashlight has a lens to focus and instensify the light ? I've got a couple 9LED flashlights with only a clear 'glass' and you can barely tell a temperature change... Now for CF on the otherhand, I've got a 5 globe fixture above my bathroom mirror, have

RE: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc

2009-08-17 Thread James Hill
Oh Symantec for sure. It will keep you gainfully employed for years with all the things it breaks(or get you fired, quickly). In all seriousness I've never had a problem with TrendMicro but they have always been very expensive. I will be considering Microsoft AV on the desktop next time round

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Schorr
I've never needed to go to NTBackup to restore a single message - that's what Deleted Items Retention is for. :-) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com b...@rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Schorr
1GB? Not sure what version of Outlook you're using but I've run far larger mail stores than that on Outlook 2003 and 2007 for years with no problems whatsoever. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr & Tower 1155 Fort Street Mall Honol

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Bill Songstad (WCUL)
If you mean you only want to restore the message without loading a database first, sure. But you can easily restore all or only one message from a single mailbox using exmerge on your recovery storage group. Granted, you have to load the entire database into the recovery storage group to do it, b

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
I agree, I did not articulate my requirements very well. However, I ass-u-med that any admin in their right mind would want to be able to back up their mail server. Maybe it's just me??? Same issue with Antivirus. Or maybe you run your mail server without antivirus? I have to admit my experie

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Kurt Buff
Sendmail? Not on your flippin' life. Postfix, yes. And, sendmail is just an MTA anyway. Postfix/Sendmail run happily with many backends, such as Cyrus, Horde, Dovecot, UW imapd, etc. The OSS Exchange replacement often use Postfix as their MTA. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 13:14, John Bowles wrote: > A

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread David Lum
John, this post is a peach!!! -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a platform outside o

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Cook
It's called "Dumpster always on" and restore deleted items in OWA and if they need an email they deleted past the retention window then it falls under the "I can't save you from your own stupidity" heading. I DO have an archiving package that has allowed many stupid and unprofessional people to

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Bowles
Anyone in their right mind would host any business centric email on a platform outside of Exchange, Lotus or Sendmail is just asking for trouble. Now, If I'm running a shop and my Engineer comes to me with jimbob's Mail Platform.. I'm going to ask for him to please get out of my office, and neve

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Maybe I'm being obtuse, but you didn't state all of your objectives clearly. The backup wasn't a requirement until later in your thread, as well as the anti-virus/backup plugin issue. You also left off a no-hosting requirement, because you were bringing it back in house. I get the impression that

Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

2009-08-17 Thread James Kerr
Thats cause Im replying to the wrong thread of mine :-\ - Original Message - From: Brian Desmond To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong? Not entirely sure I follow the event but if I do you need to regis

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with NTBackup. :-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific... If you want to be able to back up mailbox by mailbox, etc. you have to "pay to play" with Exchange. Other email server software, no so much. :-) -Original Me

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
Sorry... I neglected to mention, we're wanting to bring email in-house so we *don't* have hosted email. :-) -Original Message- From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software Have you

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Kurt Buff
Sorry - meant to say they are the usual Open Source suspects. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:59, Kurt Buff wrote: > Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects. > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich > wrote: >> If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get >>

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Kurt Buff
Zimbra, OSER and Scalix are the usual suspects. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 08:53, John Aldrich wrote: > If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get > that has pretty much the same functionality as Exchange, including the > following: > > 1)  Active Directory integra

RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Not entirely sure I follow the event but if I do you need to register that SPN on the computer object. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: DNS c

Re: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Kurt Buff
My Inova 5-watt gets a touch warm after a while, too, but the heavy aluminum body keeps it from getting too hot. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:52, Phillip Partipilo wrote: > No heat? maybe for the 5mm LEDs.  I have a few high power LED flashlights > that get quite a bit hot... The Fenix P1 (Luxeon 3

RE: WAP configurations

2009-08-17 Thread N Parr
The previous vendor did it correctly. Why would you want to make users hop on and off different SSID's? That wouldn't be seamless for the clients at all. If they are all the same SSID's and configured identically (other than channel) then the users will attach as they need to based on signal. T

Re[2]: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Joe User
+1 Kerio - good stuff: solid, stable, & great company/service. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

WAP configurations

2009-08-17 Thread Joe Herrmann
I have a new client office that I'm currently reviewing the WAP setup at. There are currently 4 WAPs, each in approximately one corner of the building. The previous vendor setup all of these WAPs with the same SSID, but on different channels. His thinking apparently, was that the users could roa

Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

2009-08-17 Thread James Kerr
After making these changes from the link Bonnie provided I now have a new error. Event ID 6037 Source LsaSrv Level Warning The program w3wp.exe, with the assigned process ID 11700, could not authenticate locally by using the target name HTTP/mail.domain.com. The target name used is not valid. A

RE: 70-646 exam?

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Do they still have the free retake if you fail? If so just go take the test and see - if you fail you know what you need to study, if not, you saved all the time involved in studying the stuff, half of which you'll never use again in your life. I took the Windows 2000 versions of these tests a

RE: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Kelsay
It would have been unpopular a year ago, but support from them has gotten so bad, we dropped them. From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc NO to NOD32 I know this isn't a

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Bryan Garmon
Have you looked into Microsoft's hosted services model? All the benefits of Exchange without having to maintain the thing. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > If you don’t want to pay the cost of Exchange, what software would you get > that has pretty much the same functionalit

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have > to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a special "plugin" for > the antivirus to allow it to scan the Exchange DB. That's going to be true for most mail systems, t

70-646 exam?

2009-08-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Anyone take 70-649 and 70-646 recently? I just passed 70-649 this weekend and looked at some online practice tests for 70-646 and it seems like it covers the same material? If that's the case I may schedule the test in the next week or so to get it out of the way. Thanks Chris Bodnar, M

Re: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Blue jelly! On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote: > LOL, if you were really lucky, you got to be a teachers aid and got to > actually do the mimeographing...m even better.;) > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr < > michealespin...@gmail.com>

Re: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
LOL, if you were really lucky, you got to be a teachers aid and got to actually do the mimeographing...m even better.;) On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr < michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote: > ... yummy yummy yummy... > > -- > ME2 > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at

Re: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
... yummy yummy yummy... -- ME2 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Erik Goldoff wrote: > Mimeograph !  With the blue ink... teachers would pass out tests freshly > mimeographed, and we'd all sniff the pages before passing them back !!! > (hmmm, maybe that explains a lot ! ) > > > Erik Goldo

RE: Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc

2009-08-17 Thread Carol Fee
NO to NOD32 I know this isn't a popular point of view, but I used McAfee and ePO for years, and they never failed me. CFee From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Antiv

Antivirus/Anti-spyware/Anti-adware/etc

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
What do you guys like (besides Vipre, obviously! J) for antivirus/anti-spyware/anti-malware/etc? Our AVG is coming up for renewal in January and I'm not sure I want to renew it. I am considering Vipre, although I thought the interface (on the home version - didn't have a spare server to set up the

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Cook
Not to discount what you know about Exchange but... 1. I don't think any DB should be scanned by an AV program that doesn't recognize it as such. Ninja is stellar at this. 2. I'm backing up my E2K7 DBs with the native windowsbackup, no extra cost to me. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partner

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
My bad. I thought I'd said we were wanting to bring the email in-house. I sincerely apologize. as you said, you can't read my mind, and if I leave off that we're wanting to bring email in-house, you can't be expected to know that. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canb

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Anatoly Podgoretsky
Problem may start with 1 gb storage. It's llke Titanik - single and big I prefer OE on XP and specially Win Mail on Vista - each message in separate .eml file Anatoly Podgoretsky http://www.podgoretsky.com - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" To: "NT System Admin Issues" > On

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Gene Giannamore
I will disagree on Exchange being fragile. I am not sure how we decided to get Exchange Server 4 for my former employer at that time. This is when I learned to be an NT3.51/NT4 admin. The exchange public/private databases should have been destroyed by me dozens of time. I learned a lot of things

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Richard Stovall
The 2GB pst size limit hasn't been an issue for years if you're running Outlook in Unicode mode. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ork2003/HA011402611033.aspx Apparently you can even run your pst files all the way up to 33TB! -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueri

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Andy Ognenoff
I'm in the same boat. I've been evaluating SmarterMail and Mailenable (http://www.mailenable.com/). Both seem capable (but I don’t have the AD requirement - although Mailenable claims to do it.) We're moving from an old version of IMail. So far I like the interface for SmarterMail better but Mai

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a special "plugin" for the antivirus to allow it to scan the Exchange DB. AFAIK, most of the "alternatives" (at least Kerio) doesn't have this res

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Mike Gill
Sorry, I didn't read that part of your mind. I see no "in-house" as you quoted. :\ -- Mike Gill From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Did you miss the part about "in-

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
Well, I have to admit, I have little first-hand knowledge of it. It's just that to there's a lot of complications (as in "expensive add-on") for backup software to talk to the Jet DB, whereas with some other programs, you have MySQL or some other "open" / standardized DB. John-AldrichTile-Tools

Re: Anyone having problems with Active Synch?

2009-08-17 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
I've got a test domain setup in VMWare, with Exchange setup and OWA/ActiveSync working in it. You might want to consider virtualization as an option for a lab. Haven't yet applied this round of patches so I can't answer that question at the moment. On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Bill Lambert

Anyone having problems with Active Synch?

2009-08-17 Thread Bill Lambert
Since I ran the August updates on my servers on Saturday, Iphone users can't connect. I know we should test but we don't have the money for a lab. Anyone else having issues? Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847

RE: Obsolete TechS - sorry more data

2009-08-17 Thread David Lum
Sorry but I just have to add a link with even more complete data from the Hackett Group study. It covers jobs other than IT and covers more than just offshoring, like I.T. and is the most worthwhile read of the three links I've posted: http://www.ciozone.com/index.php/Management/Many-More-IT-Jo

RE: Obsolete TechS

2009-08-17 Thread David Lum
Notable since the article was written in 2008, before Obama was even in office From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Obsolete TechS That's *quite* hyped up and politically slanted from this article from Dece

RE: Obsolete TechS

2009-08-17 Thread David Lum
That's *quite* hyped up and politically slanted from this article from December 2008, and look at the size of the firms they're talking about: http://www.cio.com/article/470089/U.S._IT_Jobs_Take_a_Hit_One_In_Four_Going_Offshore "According to its research, these large firms-companies with revenues

Re: OT: Obsolete TechS

2009-08-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Bunk. No links to the study. Keywords used to spread FUD: may, expect, data is a mega-trend (when no data is presented or cited). 80% of IT jobs may go overseases by the end of 2010. I mean really, let's project that out and apply that metric to this list. In 1.3 years, 80% of the people on this

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond wrote: > What’s the problem with the database engine? There’s been a massive amount > of engineering work in that space – I don’t expect it’s going anywhere. I can't speak for the OP... but the fact that the Exchange IS is a giant binary blob, compl

RE: Obsolete TechS

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
I used to do this (offshoring) for one of the big tech companies. The general premise of that quote is true in my experience doing that. Large orgs were constantly coming through the funnel and we were sending the bulk of their IT operations to India, Malaysia, Costa Rica, etc. Whether the numbe

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2009-08-17 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
let's put this thread to rest... Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: RAY ZORZ [mailto:rz...@azcorrections.gov] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:01 AM To: NT System Admi

OT: Obsolete TechS

2009-08-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
Not good news for us ... --- Included Stuff Follows --- Flashpoint! » Blog Archive » STUDY SHOWS JOBS RAPIDLY MOVING OFFSHORE Large firms have wasted no time reacting to the economic policies of Barack Obama. According to a Miami-based consulting firm, The Hackett Group, as

Re: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Phillip Partipilo wrote: > No heat? maybe for the 5mm LEDs.   I have a few high power LED flashlights > that get quite a bit hot... Any device which generates light is going to generate heat. That's an inescapable principle of physics. The thing is, with a tra

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Desmond
What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive amount of engineering work in that space - I don't expect it's going anywhere. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Miller
Maybe a bit off from what you are looking for, but we use GroupWise here.  Runs on Netware, Windows, and Linux.  You can use the GW client or Outlook with the Outlook connector.  Web Interface is good.   Database technology is proprietary like Exchange, Notes, but rock solid.  I have GW servers t

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
Did you miss the part about "in-house"??? We're wanting to get AWAY from a hosted email solution, so Gmail is not a valid option in this case. J Thanks, though. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:44 PM To: NT System A

Re: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The database in Exchange hasn't caused me any problems in years... What's your particular concern with it? As for the proprietary aspect, whatever "standards-based" mail server you use will only really be standards based in how the mail is transported. How it is stored, and how the UI is intera

RE: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
So you're saying, in your case, it wasn't just the paper that smelled funny? LOL From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Obsolete Tech Whoa, that brings back memories (

RE: Obsolete Tech

2009-08-17 Thread Phillip Partipilo
No heat? maybe for the 5mm LEDs. I have a few high power LED flashlights that get quite a bit hot... The Fenix P1 (Luxeon 3 iirc?) gets almost uncomfortable to hold after 10 minutes or so. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message--

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Cook
The Jet DB isn't going away any time soon, as I recall the MS line is that SQL just doesn't handle the variances (item size - 10 kb to ???) as well. What's your beef with Jet? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393

RE: Mail server software

2009-08-17 Thread John Aldrich
Interesting. Thanks for the link. One thing I did NOT see (although I wasn't reading every word) was Active Directory integration. I want to be able to add users directly from my ADUC and not have to add them twice. Not to mention, I also want them to have to use the same password for email and win

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