Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/10/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... > +1 a) Apache OpenOffice.org > Just a reminder, I am not in the PPMC, so my vote is mostly symbolical: I am actually undecided between (a) and (b) so I'll leave things like this :). Pedro.

Re: Module VCL doesn't link external ICU

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; Unfortunately I still have problems building vcl with the external ICU: [ build DEP ] LNK:StaticLibrary/libvclmain.a R=/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3-devel/work/ooo && S=$R/main && O=$S/solver/340/unxfbsdx.pro && W=$O/workdir && mkdir -p $W/Dep/LinkTarget/StaticLibrary/ && RESPO

Re: svn commit: r1200689 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/it/download/index.html

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmm.. it's just the title, but I will revert. FWIW, I was just spending some time on something productive while building ;). cheers, Pedro. --- On Thu, 11/10/11, Dave Fisher wrote: > From: Dave Fisher > Subject: Re: svn commit: r1200689 - > /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/it/download/

Re: Ohloh

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, Ohloh is getting everything wrong now: OpenOffice.org appears inactive. Apache OOo is correct (Kudos to arist@) but it is reported as a duplicate and will be deleted. The license report shows: Apache License 2.0 24872 files GNU LGPL 3 7264 files BSD Copyright

Re: Module VCL doesn't link external ICU

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/10/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: ... > > I thought you already solved this. Didn't you finish > building vcl the other time? No, it's a little complex but I use a clean source tarball to try different type of builds. For a while I couldn't test the build with external depende

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
No need to apologize, OOo (or AOO? ,looks like a tie from here), is a huge monster and it's difficult to keep up with all the changes that are in progress ! best regards, Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/11/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 11/10/11 7:56 PM, Mathias Bauer > wrote: > > Am 10.11.2011 16:52, s

Re: Report Builder extension (was Re: [proposal] development for the first AOO release)

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
> project will evolve. But currently that was not my focus. > > Best regards, Oliver. > > On 09.11.2011 17:19, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hi Oliver; > > > > I won't ask you to revert this but I think it's a > complete > > waste of time. > &

Announce: OS/2 Port mostly in the tree!

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; People that like to check the commit logs may have noticed a stream of patches tagged: "iXXX OS/2 port - - by Yuri Dario" Well, I am glad to announce the core of the OS/2 port is now committed in the tree. There are still some small patches that Yuri will by sending in soon, but in esse

Re: Announce: OS/2 Port mostly in the tree!

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 11/11/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: ... > > "iXXX OS/2 port - - by Yuri Dario" > > yes, looks like an endless commit. ;-) > FWIW, in the process I found we were doing pretty stupid things like patching the redland license to choose LGPL over AL2. > > Do you have any numbers or reali

Re: Announce: OS/2 Port mostly in the tree!

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ah yes: http://www.ecomstation.com/product_info.phtml?url=nls/en/content/openoffice.html cheers, Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/11/11, Jerry Kemp wrote: > I have no delusions that OS/2 is a > major player, but it is still out > there as an active product and being developed for.  > FWIW, OS/2 is now ec

Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

2011-11-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi again; I removed the Oxygen themes icons, these apparently came from Go-OO and were GPLd. Crystal theme icons are LGPLd and will be removed also. This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new set of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons under different licenses here, that m

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

2011-11-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Yes it's very difficult, but it's one of those things where people with different (non-programming) skills can make a huge contribution. Pedro. --- On Sat, 11/12/11, FR web forum wrote: > Hello, > > - Mail original - > >This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new > set >

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

2011-11-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Ricardo; --- On Sat, 11/12/11, RGB ES wrote: > > The problem here is not to create the icon but to package > them in a way > AOOo can use: If you look inside the compressed file there > are thousands of > images and the naming convention is not easy to understand. > Someone will need to e

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I checked FreeBSD and we download the italian dictionary for LO from sourceforge. Pedro. --- On Sat, 11/12/11, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/localized/sv/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm-wJRE_sv.tar.gz > the package contains > openoffice.org3-dict-

Re: [CODE] issue 118594: IP clearance: Remove MySQL C++ connector

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Gianluca; --- On Mon, 11/14/11, Gianluca Turconi wrote: ... 12:02:18, Andre Fischer ha > scritto: > > > Good point.  I have added messages for the > libraries that I have been working on. > > This topic may worth a standalone thread in this mailing > list, so that all devs know the existenc

Re: Font related questions

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; --- On Mon, 11/14/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > Hi, > > In the process of removing the liberation fonts (they are > under GPL license, issue 118600) I stumbled upon some font > related questions. Maybe someone on this list can provide > answers. > > 1. The gentium basic fonts are under

Re: Font related questions

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Mon, 11/14/11, Andre Fischer wrote: ... > > > > I asked for this to be included in the SGA, so it's > likely > > to be there. > > Yes, it is in, I just checked.  Thank you very much > for having this included. > Actually, a redhat developer pinpointed the fonts to me :). Pedro.

Re: Font related questions

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Mon, 11/14/11, Herbert Duerr wrote: ... > > > > I think he fixed the metric files to better work with > the Arial Narrow > > font. > > I extended the Liberation Sans font family with Narrow font > faces and contributed these changes upstream. > > > But still, he will be sad, that they

Re: Module VCL doesn't link external ICU

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 04:34:13PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni > wrote: > > Hi Ariel; > > > > Unfortunately I still have problems building vcl with > > the external ICU: > > > > [ build DEP ] LNK:StaticLibrary/libvclmain.a > > R=/usr/ports/editors/openof

Re: CWS Availability (was RE: [CODE] issue 118576: Crash on close)

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I found SB111 here: http://svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/cws/ Unfortunately on Rob's repository copy @Apache Extras the CWS branches didn't make it, so we will lose those! Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > The CWS collection still seems to be > here:

Is cups really a requirement?

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Looking at the IP Clearance wiki, cups is not used anymore but the configure script will fail if it doesn't find it. Something wrong there, I think. ;) cheers, Pedro.

Re: Is it time for a build machine?

2011-11-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Just wondering, Perhaps the older OOo at SUN/Oracle also had some setup for hudson/jenkins that we could reuse? cheers, Pedro. --- On Mon, 11/14/11, Andrew Rist wrote: > On 11/14/2011 5:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > It looks like we have several options, described > here:   http://ci.apache.org/

Re: Is cups really a requirement?

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/15/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > Hi Pedro, > > On 15.11.2011 03:48, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hi; > > > > Looking at the IP Clearance wiki, cups is not used > anymore > > but the configure script will fail if it doesn't find > it. >

Re: [CODE] 118600: IP clearance: Remove liberation fonts

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I will do it. Thanks! (Hope that commit bit is coming soon!) --- On Tue, 11/15/11, Andre Fischer wrote: ... > Hi all, > > I have removed the liberation and gentium fonts. The > OpenSymbol font stayes. > > Details can be found in issue 118600 > (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=1

Re: [CODE] 118600: IP clearance: Remove liberation fonts

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Two small notes: -I removed the gentium and liberation subdirectories altogether. I don't know whats the purpose of leaving directories for things like lp_solve and epm. - I can't seem to be able to close that issue or change it's state, etc. Regards, Pedro. --- On Tue,

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, The problem we are seeing in FreeBSD is a bit weird, and I think it has to do with the build environment (AKA ports tree). When built inside the ports tree, EPM and agg get built. We are not not turning them on, they just build. There are other issues: FreeBSD's gbuild stuff was not really

Re: [CODE] 118600: IP clearance: Remove liberation fonts

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/15/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > > Two small notes: > > > > -I removed the gentium and liberation subdirectories > > altogether. I don't know whats the purpose of leaving > > directories for things like lp_solve and epm. > > I am not quite sure what you mean.  The > more_fonts/font

Re: [CODE] 118600: IP clearance: Remove liberation fonts

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/15/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > > Argh, my fault.  I use git locally on my machine, > which does delete empty directories.  I forgot the > SVN underneath, which does not delete > empty directories. > Ah, I see. It's not really much of a problem: the committer is expected to kno

Re: [code] main/dmake

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
My $0.02 --- On Tue, 11/15/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > - Introduce a --with-dmake-path= option to > configure(.in), that specifies where the pre-installed dmake > can be found. > On LibreOffice it's a matter of defining $DMAKE in the configure environment. For my own builds I don't need to do

Re: Build Breaker in /main/tools/

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thank you! I will look now if I find an easy fix or I will revert it ASAP. Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/15/11, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Hi at all > > We have a build breaker in /main/tools/ As far I can see, > it has samething to do with Andre's Patch who was commited > by Pedro. Here is the outpu

Re: Build Breaker in /main/tools/

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Fixed in revision 1202504. cheers, Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/15/11, Raphael Bircher wrote: ... > Hi at all > > We have a build breaker in /main/tools/ As far I can see, > it has samething to do with Andre's Patch who was commited > by Pedro. Here is the output > > Module 'xmerge' delivered succes

Re: [code] main/dmake

2011-11-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Wed, 11/16/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > > By the way, the other archives that are downloaded during > configure/setup have MD5 checksums.  Can you add one > to the dmake archive as well? > This is rather weird as Google code uses SHA1. Anyways ... I updated the code with the OS/2 patch

Re: [code] main/dmake

2011-11-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Wed, 11/16/11, Andre Fischer wrote: ... > > Great. Now I just have to figure out, how to use the MD5 > checksum.  You have to compare it to something that > does not come from the download server. > Hmm.. I thought you needed the checksum in the name. Perhaps you can use the standard

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-11-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Martin; --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Martin Hollmichel wrote: ... > On 11/16/11 6:33 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > On 16 November 2011 16:56, Martin Hollmichel > >   > wrote: > > ... > > > > What kind of a "release" are you talking about. OOo > > releases can only be made from the Apache Software > >

Heads up: KDE Crystal Icon set going away.

2011-11-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; This one is a little more difficult than the Oxygen set because the details of the original commit are lost in CVS and the icons have been able to grow deeper roots. I tried to verify the origin and I traced those icons to: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=60434 Apparently th

Re: [Patch]submit a patch to fix the issue - 115580.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Committed as revision 1203218. Thank you very much for your contribution! Pedro. --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Erwin Chen wrote: > From: Erwin Chen > Subject: [Patch]submit a patch to fix the issue - 115580. > To: "ooo-dev" > Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 11:05 PM > Hi all, > > So far, I've

Re: Heads up: KDE Crystal Icon set going away.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Committed as revision 1203215. --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > This one is a little more difficult than the Oxygen set > because the details of the original commit are lost in > CVS and the icons have been able to grow deeper roots. > > I tried to

Re: [Patch]submit a patch to fix the issue - 115580.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/17/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 11/17/11 4:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni > wrote: > > Committed as revision 1203218. > > > > Thank you very much for your contribution! > > > > i very much appreciate that we accept and integrate > everythi

Re: [Patch]submit a patch to fix the issue - 115580.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Acknowledged with a +1. Pedro. --- On Thu, 11/17/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... > On 11/17/11 5:41 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > 2011/11/17 Jürgen Schmidt: > >> On 11/17/11 4:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >>> > >>> Committed as revision 1203218. > >&g

Re: Heads up: KDE Crystal Icon set going away.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/17/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > > > The good news is that in KDE my patch will replace > > them with the Tango icon set : > > http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Showroom > > > > which is already used in gnome, and that will > > ultimately make Apache OpenOffice more > >

Re: [Patch]submit a patch to fix the issue - 115580.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
; Hello Pedro, * > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 07:26:08AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni > wrote: > > Committed as revision 1203218. > > > > Thank you very much for your contribution! > > > > Pedro. > > > > +       //#115580# fixed by > JingDo

Re: build stops: hicontrast.flag

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ugh.. I have been the last one to touch that and TBH I don't see where that comes from. I will revert the last two changes and bring back the KDE Crystal icons. Very sorry, Pedro. --- On Thu, 11/17/11, Pavel Janík wrote: > From: Pavel Janík > Subject: build stops: hicontrast.flag > To: ooo-

Re: Heads up: KDE Crystal Icon set going away.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/17/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > remove the else and kde will default to OOo's default > (Galaxy). I would be really afraid of existing users recalling the icons as too old-stylish. The Tango icons are not really Gnome specific, they specifically mention KDE in their we

Apache Licensed Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; JFYI, Google released some AL2 fonts for Android: https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/tree/master/data/fonts BTW, there is a minor update available for the dejavu fonts: http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Main_Page Pedro.

Re: Apache Licensed Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Actually ... These Droid fonts dont look suitable for a desktop. They lack many features, for example, there are no italics :(. Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/18/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi; > > JFYI, Google released some AL2 fonts for Android: > https://github.com/android/platform_fra

Re: agg_vertex_iterator.h not found during build

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Joost; Your tree is outdated. Agg was updated (and disabled) long ago and that file is not in agg 2.4. Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/18/11, Joost Andrae wrote: > From: Joost Andrae > Subject: agg_vertex_iterator.h not found during build > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Friday, November 1

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Eric; --- On Fri, 11/18/11, eric b wrote: > Disclaimer:  this list is not > easy to read, and if the topic was already discussed. In > this case, thanks in advance to provide me the right link > :-) > > Hi, > > I perfectly know the importance of the IP clearance, but in > parallel, we'll ne

Re: Apache Licensed Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
rote: > > On 18.11.2011 06:16, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> > >> JFYI, Google released some AL2 fonts for Android: > >> https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/tree/master/data/fonts > > > > This shows the need that fonts need to be available >

Re: [Patch]submit a patch to fix the issue - 115580.

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 11/18/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... >> > It's better to insert a few words describing the issue/fix > and insert the name to give the credits to the person > who made it. > > A short descr helps to understand for what the fix is > without searching  in bug database. > I thought SVN

Re: Apache Licensed Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- On Fri, 11/18/11, Rob Weir wrote: > Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hi; > > > > OFL has two big issues: > > 1) It's copyleft so we cannot put it in the > repository. > > 2) It cannot be redistributed on it's own: it has > > to be bundled with

Re: Apache Licensed Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Fri, 11/18/11, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM, > Dennis E. Hamilton > > wrote: > > I welcome anyone who is willing to share the PITA > burden concerning licensing, IP, terms-of-use, etc. > :). > > > With regard to the NOTICE file.  In a binary release, > yes.  If the

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Eric; --- On Fri, 11/18/11, eric b wrote: > > > > I personally don't understand well how those CWSs > worked or how they are integrated. > > > One released version of OpenOffice.org was named "a > milestone". Between one milestone and the next one, we > integrate several cws (the number ma

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Mathias; --- On Sat, 11/19/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > We have used them. At that time they where a PITA as > updating them from the master or integrating them > into it was very time consuming and required a lot > of manual merging work. That worked much better > with Mercurial, but tha

RE: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > This is not my area of expertise by > any means.  > > And I have a concern that this is topic is being > over-simplified.  This description is to test my own > understanding of what it takes. > I have concern that things look a lot more c

Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Probably everybody out there knows the BSD beastie image: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/images.html This image is copyrighted by Kirk Mckusick: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html And I have his permission to use it for the AOO FreeBSD port (He even sent me

Re: Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > So you have his permission to use it.  But does Apache > have his permission?  And what about downstream > consumers?  Although it is unlikely, we need to consider > the possibility that someone else takes > the BSD port and customizes it and then redist

RE: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Pedro, > > Why does bringing in a CWS require creating diffs? > > If the CWS is installed on a client, any diffing can be > done afterwards using tools that support SVN, yes? > As I explained before I don't know how to use CWS. I look at http:

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Am 19.11.2011 15:22, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: > > > I think we could use a SVN branch as a buffer to > > integrate CWSs one by one; that way we don't interrupt > > current work and get to try the CWSs before the tree

Re: Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ross; --- On Sat, 11/19/11, Ross Gardler wrote: > > > > You need permission for other uses, just like the ASF > logo. > > ASF logo's are available under the Apache licence but they > are also trademarks. People can reuse them just like our > code. They can modify them, but only in conformanc

Re: URIs Associated with OOo Documentation

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
That's very cool!! Thanks!! That's blog material guys ;). Pedro. --- On Sat, 11/19/11, Guy Waterval wrote: > > Just for info, I'm writing documentation (fr) on Lotus > Symphony and OOoLight (Apache license) > > www.softenpoche.com/sep/OOoLight > Impress.odt

RE: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
l of the changes I inspected were to *.mk > files.  I got cross-eyed following paths backward in > the graph and gave up without finding where gnumake4 > started. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, November 1

RE: Microsoft Tools for Windows Builds

2011-11-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; It would be really nice to have a Windows buildbot. http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html cheers, Pedro. --- On Sun, 11/20/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > Hi Ross, > > The goal is to be able to do the Windows Build with the > free tools that Microsoft has available.  That includes > t

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmm... Not pretending to defend or condemn anyone here, but it would seem like SUN/Oracle had approved some external uses of the trademark that the ASF is not likely to approve. As long as they don't carry ASF logos we should be patient and allow time for some transition to go on. FWIW, I think

Re: Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi guys; FWIW, I found an interesting statement corresponding to the OpenOffice.org logo: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/ "In order to protect the brand OpenOffice.org, the logo is not licensed under an open source license. As it is trademarked you are allowed to use it, if

Re: [CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

2011-11-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; I have already touched that configure script more than I want to already but I would favor reverting the enable-copyleft switch: it is particularly wrong with weak copyleft. We should just remove the internal versions for anything copyleft but let people use the preinstalled packages that a

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Juergen; I dont have an easy solution for you but perhaps you should try OpenPKG, as it produces RPM and has a better license: http://www.openpkg.net/ And dont worry about FreeBSD as none of those packagers work with the new pkgng format. Cheers, Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Jürgen Sch

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmmm ... Nevermind, OpenPKG is rather bulky. Unfortunately portable packagers seem not to be too common anymore. Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > From: Pedro Giffuni > Subject: Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm? > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Tuesday,

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
edit fetch_tarballs.sh, perhaps you can test my update to that script? (attached). cheers, Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > Hi Pedro, > > On 11/22/11 1:52 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > > Hmmm ... > > > > Nevermind, OpenPKG is rather bulky. > &g

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... > > Changing or removing a PayPal button can't be a big issue. > +1, I can do it but will that mean I have to maintain it? > I can't read Spanish and therefore i depend on a good > explanation. But i > would really appreciate if we as PPMC can

Re: Apache Open Office Bugzilla

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Greatly needed. However, it's the PPMC who has to do the request. Oh and David has to sign the iCLA if he hasn't already. cheers, Pedro. --- On Mon, 11/21/11, David McKay wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I hope you're the right person for me to ask this question > to. I have tried raising the issue

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > I'm checking out > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/es > Can one review the content and commit the changes directly > on svn? (I've > read there is some kind of web tool for this). > It's muc

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I will review it as the external cppunit was breaking the build on SAL here. Thanks! Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > Hi all, > > Another category-x licensed library is gone.  A > pre-installed cppunit can be used instead. The gnu make > build system needed some convincing

System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; I am getting this after r1204995 : ... = Building module mythes = ... configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating mythes.pc config.status: creating config.h config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: e

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Andre's patch looks good: it passes SAL on my system. My compile is now broken by an unrelated commit so if someone feels confident to commit it please go ahead. Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > I will review it as the external cppunit was breaking > the b

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > From: Ariel Constenla-Haile > Subject: Re: System broken at mythes > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 4:41 PM > Hi Pedro, > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:16:47PM -0800, Pedro Giffu

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > From: Ariel Constenla-Haile > Subject: Re: System broken at mythes > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 5:48 PM > > Hi Pedro, > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:00:40PM -080

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
n at mythes > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 5:48 PM > > Hi Pedro, > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:00:40PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni > wrote: > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile > wrote: > > > &

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: ... > > the underlying error is on the original > mythes/makefile.mk: > it shouldn't set the BUILD_ACTION to make, but to > $(GNUMAKE) > Can you try this in when "$(GUI)"=="UNX" ? > This should solve the problem :) > I tried it but it broke fu

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I was able to continue building and so far it looks good. I will commit it unless something breaks in the next half hour or so :). Thanks Andre! Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi; > > Andre's patch looks good: it passes SAL on my system. > > My comp

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 23.11.11 04:07, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: > > I was able to continue building and so far it looks > good. > > > > I will commit it unless something breaks in the next > > half hour or so :). > Let's wait a

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
(Sorry for the delay: different timezone, busy morning etc) My build is a bad example because I use an automated build (ports tree) and am in the process of using more prepackaged stuff when possible. Just for reference, it looks like this: CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--disable-odk \

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; That's very cool. Thanks Armand! I've checked out the status of AGG and while the new version is GPL'd, it was abandoned and the community has done some enhancements on the BSD licensed version that I could bring in. I thought AGG would've been useful for your SVG stuff but it looks like I w

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Eric, *, --- On Wed, 11/23/11, eric b wrote: ... > > > To be sure : is the plan to use gmake for the whole build > ? > That's the plan but my understanding is that gnumake4 doesn't yet achieve that completely. cheers, Pedro.

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Andre; --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > Hi all, > > The last open item on the IP clearance wiki page is the > removal of the dictionary module from the AOO source > code. I think we cannot ship MPL source code either (not even download+patches). That includes rhino, saxon and

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Raphael Bircher wrote: ... > > > > I will commit it unless something breaks in the next > > half hour or so :). > Let's wait a little bit longer, that we can do same more > tests. We have time. I am not sure how long "a little bit longer" is supposed to be but I will commi

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Gianluca Turconi wrote: ... > Il 24/11/2011 15.01, Pedro Giffuni ha > scritto: > > I think we should keep the non copyleft dictionaries > for > > reference. I think that leaves us with English, > Russian, > > Croatian and I have an old it

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
24, 2011 at 06:29:42AM > -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hunspell is still the main spellchecker in AOO but we > > cannot ship the italian dictionary and even the MPL > > dictionaries have to be removed from the repository. > > > > > Exactly, what do you

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Andre Fischer wrote: > > > > I think we cannot ship MPL source code either (not > > even download+patches). That includes rhino, saxon > > and nss/mozilla. > > Hm, as far as I understand this we can not ship MPL code in > the source release directly, but the downloading i

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jurgen; --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > > > As I had understood it the idea is that we shouldn't > > be using patches as a workaround to do actual coding > > on top of copyleft components, so I guess if the > > components are not on by default that is OK. This > > is still n

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
pretty strict in this type of issues so > > please excuse me for scaring you all ;-). > > > > Pedro. > > > > --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 06:29:42AM > >> -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: &g

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
gards > Mathias > > Am 24.11.2011 um 15:57 schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile : > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 06:29:42AM -0800, Pedro > Giffuni wrote: > >> Hunspell is still the main spellchecker in AOO but > we > >> cannot ship the italian dictionary and even th

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > In any case the project is not going to grind to a halt > every time you are unsure. If you think we are doing > something wrong then you need to back that with some > authority, a link to a policy statement or authoritative > interpretation. This att

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > This attitude from you is hardly surprising because we > all > > know you have all the answers :-P. > > > > It is memory not attitude. I don't know all the answers, > but I do know the answers to questions that have > already been asked and answered on

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Mathias; --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > > > You mean like just tar them all and put them with the > binary > > release? > > Yes. Even packaging as extension and deploying these > packages as part of a binary release does not look > fundamentally different than bundling a lib

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 I think it's simple enough. We can make life more difficult after 3.4. Still the italian dictionary is GPL only. --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > Am 24.11.2011 um 20:46 schrieb Pedro Giffuni : > > > Hi Mathias; > > > > --- On Thu,

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I have already lost much time on this, but I will give this a last attempt. --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > Maybe some are making an unstated and unwarranted > assumption that our > source release will contain 100% of what is in SVN?  > That would > explain much of the confusion I am

Re: [PROPOSAL] Keeping AOO Attack Surface Small

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > Here are some proposal elements around the Attack > Surface of Apache > OpenOffice and keeping it small: > > > >  P1. Extensions, supplements, and updates > downloaded by the run-time > installer or product shall only be retrieved from URLs > under Apach

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > This is the surest and easiest way forward. If you want to > volunteer to > implement an alternative approach then feel free to make a > proposal for > what you want to do. > Oh. I solved this issue already for PedroOffice. I will amuse myself letting

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > From: Mathias Bauer > Subject: Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?) > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Date: Thursday, November 24, 2011, 5:59 PM > Am 24.11.2011 22:43, schrieb Pedro > Giffuni:

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
: ... > Hi Michael, * > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:04:24AM +0100, Michael Stahl > wrote: > > hi Ariel, > > > > On 23.11.2011 17:16, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:08:21AM -0800, Pedro > Giffuni wrote: > > >> FWIW,

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