Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris as NetBSD?

2007-05-30 Thread John Plocher
Girts Zeltins wrote: I want to say that Solaris must be as NetBSD and must be available for all platforms. I don't think you will find too many who would disagree with you. I would note, however, that it took several painful years to evolve a multi-platform NetBSD from BSD's initial Net/2 dum

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris as NetBSD?

2007-05-30 Thread Lukas Oboril
I think, this is _not_ good idea. Solaris = Sparc = Best power, nothing else. AMD and Intel are exceptions. :)) For me is _now_ Solaris the best operating system. best regards On 5/31/07, Girts Zeltins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all, I want to start discussion about one important thing.

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Doug Scott
> > > Glynn Foster wrote: > > > > > Hey, > > > > Here's the project proposal that should have been > out a long while > > back (apologies, I'm happy to take the blame on > this one). Before > > anyone gets too caught up in how little the > proposal actually > > covers, I intend to follow up

[osol-discuss] Solaris as NetBSD?

2007-05-30 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello all, I want to start discussion about one important thing. I want to say that Solaris must be as NetBSD and must be available for all platforms. This is idea which come to my mind some time ago and now I want to ask all Solaris funs to start discuss about this. If Sun Microsystems will g

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread John Plocher
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: If you want to create an OpenSolaris reference distribution, or any distribution that advertises itself as having that status, Why does Indiana have to meet these requirements when Nexenta, Belinix, MartUX, Schillix, SX, and all the other OS.o distros don't? Why are y

[osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello, Yes, this is bad thing and one of biggest Sun Microsystems mistakes. I already talk about lot of mistakes in Solaris recently and I want to say: Sun Microsystems will lose lots of Solaris users if they will use Java in installation system and in graphical desktop. There is no need any Jav

[osol-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-discuss (04/16 - 04/30)

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Boutilier
For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = opensolaris-discuss 04/16 - 04/30 = Size of all threads du

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Stefan Teleman
Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, Here's the project proposal that should have been out a long while back (apologies, I'm happy to take the blame on this one). Before anyone gets too caught up in how little the proposal actually covers, I intend to follow up with my thoughts if and when the proje

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Where is the OpenSolaris distro of OpenSolaris?

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Francois Saint-Jacques wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:56:47AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Hopefully we'll start having some excellent productive >> discussions over the coming weeks. > > Public or internal discussions? I'm curious to hear the juicy > details. Public. For exam

[osol-discuss] Install Compiz 0.5.0 on SXCE 62 (64 bit)

2007-05-30 Thread Boris Derzhavets
Attempted to reproduce:- “Compiz on Solaris x86 - Eye Candy for Solaris’s Desktop” http://linux.wordpress.com/tag/linuxunixos/5-solaris-based/ >Secondly you need at least Solaris Express Build 60. It should also work on > 61 and 62. Have SXCE build 62 (64 bit) up and running >T

Re: [osol-discuss] Text Wrap in emails from mailx

2007-05-30 Thread Brian Gupta
I assume that you mean inappropriate line breaks are being placed in the text. If so can you send me a sample textfile, so I can see what you are experiencing. brian On 5/30/07, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe someone can offer some suggestions to resolve this issue that I'm sure I'm not

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Francois Saint-Jacques wrote: > 1. 6 month is WAY too short in my opinion. There is nothing more painfull > than upgrading Fedora core 1 to 6 or Ubuntu abc to xyz while dist-upgrading > 3-4 > releases. Update process *should not* take more than 3 hours. I understand > this is may be impossib

[osol-discuss] Text Wrap in emails from mailx

2007-05-30 Thread Mike
Maybe someone can offer some suggestions to resolve this issue that I'm sure I'm not to the first to encounter. Sending text fiels with mailx and they show up in Outlook wrapped. I ran the unix2dos on the files before emailing, but they are still wrapping. the new line chars were replaced with

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Brian Gupta
1.4 Involvement There is a strong intention for this to be a community grass roots project, with open contribution. We hope for this project to be consensus driven, though ultimately the project leads will need to dictate direction if that proves unfeasible for delivering a ti

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread brian . gupta
Although I don't agree with the requirement of a Sun Employee to have final sayso on decisions, I would like to voice my support for this project. Let us begin discussions in an appropriate list to flesh out proposal details. brian ___ opensolaris-disc

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:04:46PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > No where did I mention a reference distribution - I agree, we're not > necessarily at that point yet. Maybe we can schedule a discussion at > next week's OGB meeting? We can, but I think it would be premature. First, I was making as

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > If you want to create an OpenSolaris reference distribution, or any > distribution that advertises itself as having that status, some type > of community-wide approval will be required. It seems likely that the > OGB is the appropriate body to consider such a prop

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:02:16PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > Including a list of leaders is easily doable, though I was worried > that it might alienate the people who are keen to be involved - or > those within other projects that are doing a lot of the work > building the technology. If it's

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Simon Phipps
On May 31, 2007, at 00:37, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 04:24:40PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Keith M Wesolowski wrote: The process requires that this be sent to one or more community groups for sponsorship consideration - have you sent it to the Distributions an

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Francois Saint-Jacques
Hello Glynn, Ian and others, I am not active on this list, but I started following your thread this weekend because I'm really intrigued by the Indiana project. My first experience with OpenSolaris was on Nexenta, which is a quite nice distribution. Since Indiana is aimed at attracting the Linux

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:24:03AM +0100, Alan Burlison wrote: > Or they could just ignore it entirely and put their projects on > SourceForge... They could do that with endorsed projects, too. Hosting services are artifacts, not the main reason to seek endorsement. In fact, although 7.10 requ

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:30:08PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: Looks like I've missed a set of meeting minutes - I'll try and write up based on the recording as soon as possible. No. You published a fine set of minutes for this meeting. They're at http://mail.opens

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:30:08PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > >> Looks like I've missed a set of meeting minutes - I'll try and write up >> based on >> the recording as soon as possible. > > No. You published a fine set of minutes for this meeting. They're at

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:41:52AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > >> Here's the project proposal that should have been out a long while back >> (apologies, I'm happy to take the blame on this one). Before anyone gets too >> caught up in how little the proposal actual

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:30:08PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > Looks like I've missed a set of meeting minutes - I'll try and write up based > on > the recording as soon as possible. No. You published a fine set of minutes for this meeting. They're at http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/og

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:44:13PM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > > It also would seem to directly counteract any desire to be a binary > > distribution named "OpenSolaris" given it would be under the sole > > control of somebody other than OpenSolaris. > > I agree with you in principle..however..

Re: [osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Anne wrote: >> Does anyone know if Solaris 10 has the ability to index all of it's >> contents and those contents are available for query? (Akin to Red Hat's >> "locate" and "updatedb" features.) The "find" command is so sllow > > Those aren't Red Hat features, but features of the GNU findut

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 06:57:32PM -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > >On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:41:52AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > > > >The process requires that this be sent to one or more community groups > >for sponsorship consideration... > > I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Darren . Reed
Alan Burlison wrote: Bonnie Corwin wrote: I take it that means either I missed something (if so, help please) or the OGB is behind on publishing meeting minutes... I think this is about more than meeting minutes. If there is a new policy, it seems there should be email to at least the -a

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Richard Lowe wrote: > Brian Gupta wrote: >>> 1.4 Involvement >>> >>> There is a strong intention for this to be a community grass roots >>> project, with open contribution. We hope for this project to be >>> consensus driven, though ultimately the project leads will need >>> to di

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Richard Lowe
Brian Gupta wrote: 1.4 Involvement There is a strong intention for this to be a community grass roots project, with open contribution. We hope for this project to be consensus driven, though ultimately the project leads will need to dictate direction if that proves unfeasible for

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: BASH as root shell

2007-05-30 Thread Nicolas Linkert
On Mon, 28 May 2007 23:40:08 +0200, "Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > "Ian Murdock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > If OpenSolaris/Indiana moves to an Ubuntu/MacOS X > > > style "always log in > > > > Is this an announcement? And what is this OpenSolaris/Indiana? A nam

Re: [ogb-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, Bonnie Corwin wrote: > Eric Boutilier wrote: >> On Wed, 30 May 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >>> >>> I know we approved it... >> >> >> I take it that means either I missed something (if so, help please) or >> the >> OGB is behind on publishing meeting minutes... > > I think this is about m

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Where is the OpenSolaris distro of OpenSolaris?

2007-05-30 Thread Francois Saint-Jacques
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:56:47AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > Hopefully we'll start having some excellent productive > discussions over the coming weeks. Public or internal discussions? I'm curious to hear the juicy details. -- Francois Saint-Jacques http://www.networkdump.com __

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Burlison
Bonnie Corwin wrote: I take it that means either I missed something (if so, help please) or the OGB is behind on publishing meeting minutes... I think this is about more than meeting minutes. If there is a new policy, it seems there should be email to at least the -announce alias and new t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Bonnie Corwin
Eric Boutilier wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: I know we approved it... I take it that means either I missed something (if so, help please) or the OGB is behind on publishing meeting minutes... I think this is about more than meeting minutes. If there is a new policy

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: I know we approved it... I take it that means either I missed something (if so, help please) or the OGB is behind on publishing meeting minutes... Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-dis

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:41:52AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: The process requires that this be sent to one or more community groups for sponsorship consideration... I don't agree. Here's how I'd put it: "The almost-but-not-quite-yet OGB blessed p

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 04:24:40PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > >The process requires that this be sent to one or more community groups > >for sponsorship consideration - have you sent it to the Distributions > >and Packaging Group? The Constitution and OGB/2007/00

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Keith M Wesolowski wrote: The process requires that this be sent to one or more community groups for sponsorship consideration - have you sent it to the Distributions and Packaging Group? The Constitution and OGB/2007/001 require any project proposal to come from a Group. Are we actually follo

[osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:41:52AM +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > Here's the project proposal that should have been out a long while back > (apologies, I'm happy to take the blame on this one). Before anyone gets too > caught up in how little the proposal actually covers, I intend to follow up > wi

Re: [osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Sean McGrath - Sun Microsystems Ireland
Anne stated:

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Where is the OpenSolaris distro of OpenSolaris?

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At some point in time, it would be good if people inside Sun > would come to the opensolaris community with half baked > ideas for projects, rather than fully fledged ideas, so that > the community could participate in the discussion about > what the project should

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
> UNIX admin wrote: > > Other people have addressed the other issues you > raised, I'll address > this one: > > > I'm thinking that Java failed to deliver on the > promise of "write > > once, run anywhere". Java programs developed on > Windows do not, up to > > this present day, work on Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Burlison
UNIX admin wrote: Don't you worry one bit - there's pah-lenty of Java stuff out there that doesn't work WITHOUT code changes. So badly written Java apps are obviously the fault of Java, just like drink-drivers are obviously all Ford's fault. How stupid of me. Now I don't care what caused

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-30 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Here's the project proposal that should have been out a long while back (apologies, I'm happy to take the blame on this one). Before anyone gets too caught up in how little the proposal actually covers, I intend to follow up with my thoughts if and when the project alias gets created - I'd li

Re: [osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Michal Pryc
Anne wrote: > Hi All > > Does anyone know if Solaris 10 has the ability to index all of it's contents > and those contents are available for query? (Akin to Red Hat's "locate" and > "updatedb" features.) The "find" command is so sllow Actually I was making some research in this area a few mo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Sean McGrath - Sun Microsystems Ireland
UNIX admin stated: < > Differentiate between language, platform (and then, < > especially, its implementation) and api. < < Why? < < > Fluent in JAVA? < < Not any more. I was formally educated in it though. Java and Swing, threaded programming. < That was years ago though, and not an experience

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread MC
The key thing at the end of this quote should have cut the debate before it started: > As has been repeatedly discussed here, the current > memory requirements > of the developer release installer are an artifact of > its hurried > implementation (eg 2 jvms). This will not continue > to be the ca

Re: [osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Chris Ricker
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Anne wrote: > > Does anyone know if Solaris 10 has the ability to index all of it's contents > > and those contents are available for query? (Akin to Red Hat's "locate" and > > "updatedb" features.) The "find" command is so sllow > > Those aren't

RE: [osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Anne
Interesting! All these years of using them and I never knew that. Wonder why SUN hasn't bothered to include it (as Red Hat did) in their installs? Thanks for the great info! Anne -Original Message- From: Alan Coopersmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:10 PM

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
> Differentiate between language, platform (and then, > especially, its implementation) and api. Why? > Fluent in JAVA? Not any more. I was formally educated in it though. Java and Swing, threaded programming. That was years ago though, and not an experience I care to repeat. > And the other t

Re: [osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Anne wrote: Does anyone know if Solaris 10 has the ability to index all of it's contents and those contents are available for query? (Akin to Red Hat's "locate" and "updatedb" features.) The "find" command is so sllow Those aren't Red Hat features, but features of the GNU findutils which y

[osol-discuss] solaris index database?

2007-05-30 Thread Anne
Hi All Does anyone know if Solaris 10 has the ability to index all of it's contents and those contents are available for query? (Akin to Red Hat's "locate" and "updatedb" features.) The "find" command is so sllow Thank you Anne ___ opensolaris-d

[osol-discuss] Re: On Apache, PHP, and Oracle

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
> Of course using the 'glass half empty' model would > resort to you getting 32-bit Oracle OCI libs instead. Quite right. I've meanwhile managed to locate Oracle 10.1.0.3, old, but 32-bit. That ought to do the trick. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

[osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Andrew Pattison
The first option on the post-boot menu (Solaris Express Developer Edition) requires 768MB of memory. All other options only require 512MB of memory. Choose one of those options, and you should be good to go. Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Burlison
UNIX admin wrote: Other people have addressed the other issues you raised, I'll address this one: I'm thinking that Java failed to deliver on the promise of "write > once, run anywhere". Java programs developed on Windows do not, up to > this present day, work on Solaris; That is incorrect.

[osol-discuss] Re: On Apache, PHP, and Oracle

2007-05-30 Thread Michael Lee
Try the link below: http://cooltools.sunsource.net/coolstack/ This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Shawn Walker
On 30/05/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As has been repeatedly discussed here, the current > memory requirements > of the developer release installer are an artifact of > its hurried > implementation (eg 2 jvms). This will not continue > to be the case. I just can't believe Sun con

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> Solaris 11 still run in 256MB just fine, it's just >> the installer which >> wants to copy X and Java to ramdisk which is costing >> so much. > > X ok - but why Java??? I never quite understood that ... > >> Use "vanilla install" without graphics and it should >> be fine. > > What do you mean?

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Brian Gupta
Now there's a way to make oneself marketable in the "street corner programmer" business. Actually Java is the primary language used to teach object oriented programming concepts today. (At the university level) No. Every sysadmin I've ever met, and every system engineer I've ever met for tha

[osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Nicolas Linkert
> Solaris 11 still run in 256MB just fine, it's just > the installer which > wants to copy X and Java to ramdisk which is costing > so much. X ok - but why Java??? I never quite understood that ... > Use "vanilla install" without graphics and it should > be fine. What do you mean? Is this an ins

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Martin Bochnig
> > As has been repeatedly discussed here, the current > > memory requirements > > of the developer release installer are an artifact of > > its hurried > > implementation (eg 2 jvms). This will not continue > > to be the case. > > I just can't believe Sun continues to push such a crappy technol

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-30 Thread Martin Bochnig
> > Then try to use rxvt. > > What is(are) the advantage(s) of rxvt over xterm? Don't you claim to be such a friend of man pages? Btw, as I added, take mrxvt, not rxvt. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> sorry, missed that .. the S/N ratio here can often be ... well you know. > You could help that by having installation-related conversations on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] oops .. sorry .. away I go to the correct maillist :-\ dc ___ opensolaris-discuss mai

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
> I have at least three textbooks here on Java > programming in front of me and > I actually went back to University of Toronto for a > semester to study Java > programming. Sort of a super fast way to learn this > technology. Now there's a way to make oneself marketable in the "street corner pro

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Where is the OpenSolaris distro of OpenSolaris?

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some point in time, it would be good if people inside Sun would come to the opensolaris community with half baked ideas for projects, rather than fully fledged ideas, so that the community could participate in the discussion about what the project should be about rathe

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dave Miner
Dennis Clarke wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI controllers, terribly simple graphic

[osol-discuss] Re: [discuss] Project Proposal: Emulex Fibre Channel Device Driver

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Dave. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. Eric On Fri, 25 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summary: Provide source code for the Emulex Fibre Channel device driver that operates in the Leadville environment. Overview: We propose the creation of a new

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> As has been repeatedly discussed here, the current >> memory requirements >> of the developer release installer are an artifact of >> its hurried >> implementation (eg 2 jvms). This will not continue >> to be the case. > > I just can't believe Sun continues to push such a crappy technology lik

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
> Then try to use rxvt. What is(are) the advantage(s) of rxvt over xterm? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
> As has been repeatedly discussed here, the current > memory requirements > of the developer release installer are an artifact of > its hurried > implementation (eg 2 jvms). This will not continue > to be the case. I just can't believe Sun continues to push such a crappy technology like Java a

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> >>I think that the installer will still fail even in text mode. > > 512MB will work. > > Even 256MB works but requires a shrunk miniroot (I generally make one which > is only 64MB in size as opposed to the standard 170MB; the latter gives > precious little room on a 256MB system) > > Casper > s

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> [...] >> Hello Moinak : >> >>I am working my way through a few Sun blueprint docs and trying to put >> together a small bootable CDROM prototype that will allow me to pkg-get >> all of the rest of the regular SUNW packages as well as a pile of CSW >> packages. I figur

RE: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 error VOLTAGE_SENSOR

2007-05-30 Thread Anne
Good point. It's a solaris 10 box, T1000. Think it's hardware? Ouch. No warranty! -Original Message- From: Bart Smaalders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:32 PM To: Anne Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 error VOLTAG

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Dennis Clarke wrote: [...] Hello Moinak : I am working my way through a few Sun blueprint docs and trying to put together a small bootable CDROM prototype that will allow me to pkg-get all of the rest of the regular SUNW packages as well as a pile of CSW packages. I figure this sort of thing

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> >>I think that the installer will still fail even in text mode. > > 512MB will work. > > Even 256MB works but requires a shrunk miniroot (I generally make one which > is only 64MB in size as opposed to the standard 170MB; the latter gives > precious little room on a 256MB system) 64MB ? perfect

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Where is the OpenSolaris distro of OpenSolaris?

2007-05-30 Thread Darren . Reed
Glynn Foster wrote: Hi, Eric Boutilier wrote: I can't see how it makes sense for the reference distro of a community project to be a Sun internal project. Who said anything about a Sun internal project? I too am under the impression that the design and blessing of an O

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Casper . Dik
>I think that the installer will still fail even in text mode. 512MB will work. Even 256MB works but requires a shrunk miniroot (I generally make one which is only 64MB in size as opposed to the standard 170MB; the latter gives precious little room on a 256MB system) Casper

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Glenn Lagasse wrote: >> * Dennis Clarke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >>> I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally >>> at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 >>> and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SC

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris 10 error VOLTAGE_SENSOR

2007-05-30 Thread Brett Albertson
It looks like a power or hardware issue (MB or PS probably). Call your support provider and get the PS replaced. Brett This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 error VOLTAGE_SENSOR

2007-05-30 Thread Bart Smaalders
Anne wrote: Hi All I received this error: "VOLTAGE_SENSOR at MB/V_+3V3STBY has exceeded low soft shutdown threshold" It immediately shuts down my entire system. I looked at Sun.com for answers. Everything they threw at me, hasn't proved fruitful. Any ideas on how to fix this error? Perhaps

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
>>Am I to understand that the x86 miniroot on there will fill up all of my >>RAM and still need more? Gee. Time for a new machine I guess but this >>one won't die and it runs Solaris 10 just fine. >> >>So then, whats the minimal system spec that Solaris 11 is shooting for? >> > > Solaris 11 stil

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Glenn Lagasse wrote: * Dennis Clarke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI controllers

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Casper . Dik
>I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally >at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 >and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI >controllers, terribly simple graphics and no sound. It just works.[1] > >I

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> * Dennis Clarke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally >> at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 >> and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI >> controllers, terribl

[osol-discuss] Solaris 10 error VOLTAGE_SENSOR

2007-05-30 Thread Anne
Hi All I received this error: "VOLTAGE_SENSOR at MB/V_+3V3STBY has exceeded low soft shutdown threshold" It immediately shuts down my entire system. I looked at Sun.com for answers. Everything they threw at me, hasn't proved fruitful. Any ideas on how to fix this error? Thank you Anne _

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Dennis Clarke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally > at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 > and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI > controllers, terribly simpl

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread James Carlson
Bart Smaalders writes: > As has been repeatedly discussed here, the current memory requirements > of the developer release installer are an artifact of its hurried > implementation (eg 2 jvms). This will not continue to be the case. It's also true that it's an artifact of upgrading in the slow a

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally >> at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 >> and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI >> controllers, terribly simple graphics and no

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Bart Smaalders
Dennis Clarke wrote: I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI controllers, terribly simple graphics and no sound. It ju

[osol-discuss] snv_64a says 768MB RAM to play ?

2007-05-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
I was shocked to see that my old old trusty HP Kayak XU tower was finally at a point where it can not install Solaris. I have run Solaris 8 and 9 and 10 on it for years and years. It has two DVD burners and three SCSI controllers, terribly simple graphics and no sound. It just works.[1] I burned

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Tonight, Project Indiana,

2007-05-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Eric Boutilier wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Gueven Bay wrote: So, the presentation was held. All the people there learned what Project Indiana is. Can someone write in some short sentences what Mr. Murdock told you,please? ... The core draft of their idea, which they

Re: [osol-discuss] On Apache, PHP, and Oracle

2007-05-30 Thread ken mays
Hello, Well, that isn't bad news. There are a few ways to go about getting the 64-bit versions of those products. If you like to 'roll your own' packages then get the stats on how the Oracle libs were compiled and build accordingly for proper linkage. Of course using the 'glass half empty' model

[osol-discuss] System Inventory data fields and OS commands to populate the fields.

2007-05-30 Thread Brian Gupta
We are working on an automated System Inventory and Data Center automation Framework. It is currently in planning stage. If anyone is interested in contributing please let me know. Could everyone please review this list, and let me know if there data fields that are important to youe environment

[osol-discuss] Re: Tonight, Project Indiana,

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Gueven Bay wrote: So, the presentation was held. All the people there learned what Project Indiana is. Can someone write in some short sentences what Mr. Murdock told you,please? ... The core draft of their idea, which they plan to refine with com

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2007-05-30 Thread Henning Ström
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[osol-discuss] On Apache, PHP, and Oracle

2007-05-30 Thread UNIX admin
I've managed to compile the latest PHP (5.2.2) against the Solaris-bundled Apache2, MySQL, and PostgreSQL. And with Sun Studio compilers to boot, using "-xO4 -xprefetch=auto -xarch=generic -xipo=2 -R/..." However, I'd also like to compile and link against Oracle OCI, so that I have support for

Re: [osol-discuss] Using pstack

2007-05-30 Thread Sesha Muneendra Swameejee Panda
Girts Zeltins wrote: Hello, How I must correctly to use pstack command to make report of CD Player application crash? What I must write in Terminal? pstack core ( assuming that CD player application crash available as filename 'core' in current directory ). Thanks P.S.M.Swamiji Thank Y