[osol-discuss] ANNOUNCE: Conary preview packages now also available for x86

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/conary-eval/files/ New test packages for x86: # ls -al /pkgs total 6368 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 9 Oct 24 02:20 . drwxr-xr-x 30 bochnig other 48 Oct 24 02:17 .. * rw-r—r— 1 bochnig other 18504 Oct 24 02:18 EXTRACTTHISIN_YourHOMEDIR.tar.bz2 * rw-r—r—

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone else seeing problems with rstatd in build 99?

2008-10-23 Thread Ian Collins
Martin Bochnig wrote: > The manifest is defined in /var/svc/manifest/network/rpc/rstat.xml > Trye to see if you can start the default exec_method from the cmd line, such > as: > > /usr/lib/netsvc/rstat/rpc.rstatd > > Yes, that did start it. Odd that the "correct" method failed and gave no indi

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Derek Cicero
alan pae wrote: > Are we seeing the end of the line for doing CD installs and therefore > we can assume that going forward that it will be DVD's only? There is no plan to end CD installs long term, AFAIK. However, I also not sure when they will be returning. Derek > > thanks, > alan > -- > This

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread MC
> I'm not a developer, just a Sys Admin with an appreciation for good > technology. Not communicating with the community is quite off putting. I agree, OPENSOLARIS is a misleading name at times -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread alan pae
Are we seeing the end of the line for doing CD installs and therefore we can assume that going forward that it will be DVD's only? thanks, alan -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] [powerpc-discuss] Project Proposal -- Port to MIPS architecture

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
+1 On 10/24/08, William Kucharski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So if there is sufficient interest in a MIPS project, I would be happy to > get > the ball rolling by formally proposing the creation of such a project under > the > Emerging Platforms CG. > > I'd just need to know the charter and who

Re: [osol-discuss] [powerpc-discuss] Project Proposal -- Port to MIPS architecture

2008-10-23 Thread William Kucharski
So if there is sufficient interest in a MIPS project, I would be happy to get the ball rolling by formally proposing the creation of such a project under the Emerging Platforms CG. I'd just need to know the charter and who wants to be the project leads. William Kucharski __

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone else seeing problems with rstatd in build 99?

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
The manifest is defined in /var/svc/manifest/network/rpc/rstat.xml Trye to see if you can start the default exec_method from the cmd line, such as: /usr/lib/netsvc/rstat/rpc.rstatd Also verify its deps are running well, e.g. svc:/network/rpc/bind %martin _

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone else seeing problems with rstatd in build 99?

2008-10-23 Thread Ian Collins
Martin Bochnig wrote: > On 10/23/08, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The service won't start and there isn't a reason: >> >> svcs -xv svc:/network/rpc/rstat:default >> svc:/network/rpc/rstat:default (kernel statistics server) >> State: maintenance since Thu Oct 23 20:25:31 2008 >> R

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread john g4lt
the error message should have read "use crle, linux-man" On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Martin Bochnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The error msg came, because options need to go last into the cmd line: > > # LD_PRELOAD=/tmp/y/a.out conary update tuxpaint --resolve >

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Matt Wilby
Derek, Thanks for the update. Do you think something could be posted to announce to let everyone know? Cheers, Matt On 23 Oct 2008, at 17:19, Derek Cicero wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: >> Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: >>> Shawn Walker schrieb: I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone else seeing problems with rstatd in build 99?

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
no. Is there no error log in /etc/svc or syslog? %martin On 10/23/08, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The service won't start and there isn't a reason: > > svcs -xv svc:/network/rpc/rstat:default > svc:/network/rpc/rstat:default (kernel statistics server) > State: maintenance since Thu

Re: [osol-discuss] Port from linux. ioctl with FIBMAP to OpenSolaris OS, please help.

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Thai Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to port a linux app to OpenSolaris OS. There is a API used in > linux codes that I don't know how to port to OpenSolaris: > > ioctl(fileFD, FIBMAP, &FsBlock) > > Any one pleases help, tell me how to do t

Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:51:20 -0500 Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> First of all, with OpenSolaris 2008.x, I think you'll see far more >> software packaged, and secondly, far more of it will be up-to-date. > > Yes, b

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Stephen Lau
On 10/23/08 9:19 AM, Derek Cicero wrote: > There were a number of problems with 100 and it had to be re-spun. Due > to the timing it would have come out right around the time of 101, so > they punted. > > 101 is due next Thursday. > > I think the issue is simply that there is delay as the mail gets

[osol-discuss] Anyone else seeing problems with rstatd in build 99?

2008-10-23 Thread Ian Collins
The service won't start and there isn't a reason: svcs -xv svc:/network/rpc/rstat:default svc:/network/rpc/rstat:default (kernel statistics server) State: maintenance since Thu Oct 23 20:25:31 2008 Reason: Restarter svc:/network/inetd:default gave no explanation. See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-80

Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
Building src inside conary, sample output: # conary emerge --no-deps zlib:source + Methods called: Zlib.setup + Building [EMAIL PROTECTED]:devel[] warning: Could not find the following troves needed to cook this recipe: bash:runtime binutils:devellib binutils:lib binutils:runtime bzip2:runtime c

Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all, with OpenSolaris 2008.x, I think you'll see far more software > packaged, and secondly, far more of it will be up-to-date. That may be, but I have been hearing that for the better part of a decade, so I'll no

[osol-discuss] Port from linux. ioctl with FIBMAP to OpenSolaris OS, please help.

2008-10-23 Thread Thai Nguyen
Hi, I am trying to port a linux app to OpenSolaris OS. There is a API used in linux codes that I don’t know how to port to OpenSolaris: ioctl(fileFD, FIBMAP, &FsBlock) Any one pleases help, tell me how to do this, find out a FileSystemBlock of the offset in a file, in OpenSolaris. Many thank

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread john g4lt
Last I checked, today's thursday after a uploadless friday. accordingly you literally cannot get any later without encroaching on the following week's build. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: >> Shawn Walker schrieb: >>> I'm prett

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Derek Cicero
Matt Wilby wrote: > Derek, > > Thanks for the update. > > Do you think something could be posted to announce to let everyone know? Yes, I just did. Derek > > Cheers, > > Matt > > > On 23 Oct 2008, at 17:19, Derek Cicero wrote: > >> Shawn Walker wrote: >>> Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: Sh

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Stephen Lau
On 10/23/08 9:17 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: > Stephen Lau wrote: >> On 10/23/08 8:58 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: >>> Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: Shawn Walker schrieb: > I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been > released > because it's not ready yet." :-) > A

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Andrew Watkins
Paul Gress wrote: > The way I see it, is they stated they would have gnome 24 in release 101 > and they are fixing the font problems after removing numerous fonts and > installing freely available fonts. So it must be taking a little longer > then expected to complete these tasks. This is al

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Derek Cicero
Shawn Walker wrote: > Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: >> Shawn Walker schrieb: >>> I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been released >>> because it's not ready yet." :-) >>> >> And what about a schedule? Something like 'We hope to have it ready by >> next Friday.'? > > There is a

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Shawn Walker
Stephen Lau wrote: > On 10/23/08 8:58 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: >> Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: >> >>> Shawn Walker schrieb: >>> I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been released because it's not ready yet." :-) >>> And what about a schedule? Som

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Stephen Lau
On 10/23/08 8:58 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: > Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: > >> Shawn Walker schrieb: >> >>> I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been released >>> because it's not ready yet." :-) >>> >>> >> And what about a schedule? Something like 'We hope to have

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Shawn Walker schrieb: > Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: >> Shawn Walker schrieb: >>> I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been >>> released because it's not ready yet." :-) >>> >> >> And what about a schedule? Something like 'We hope to have it ready by >> next Friday.'? > > There i

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Matt Wilby
Just from my point of view, I've seen quite a bit of push from Sun sales guys about 'Open Storage'. If Sun are touting OpenSolaris as the OS for this low cost DIY storage platform, they won't do themselves any favors by delaying releases without explanation. It can't be hard to write a one

Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:51:20 -0500 Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all, with OpenSolaris 2008.x, I think you'll see far more > software packaged, and secondly, far more of it will be up-to-date. Yes, but will it be packaged in usable form, or will it be configured to work on a

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Matt Wilby
Indeed. It's all good stuff. Just wanted to find out when the next release is due Steve - Is your example just an example? :-) Cheers, Matt On 23 Oct 2008, at 16:27, Stephen Lau wrote: > On 10/23/08 8:06 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: >> What some of the corporate sponsors for the community cho

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:16:03 +0200 "Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Martin Bochnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I would venture to guess that a significant majority o

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:28:13 -0500 Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:49:36 PDT "Richard L. Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >>> I'd much rather see a ports type implementation than > >>> an rpm > >>> implementation - particularly

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Shawn Walker
Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: > Shawn Walker schrieb: >> I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been released >> because it's not ready yet." :-) >> > > And what about a schedule? Something like 'We hope to have it ready by > next Friday.'? There is a schedule: http://opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Shawn Walker
Stephen Lau wrote: > On 10/23/08 8:06 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: >> What some of the corporate sponsors for the community choose to do with >> their products and trademarks is their rightful decision and community >> members should not expect to have control over them. >> > Very true... however I

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Shawn Walker schrieb: > > I'm pretty sure that one-line update would be, "it hasn't been released > because it's not ready yet." :-) > And what about a schedule? Something like 'We hope to have it ready by next Friday.'? The way it is right now, I get the impression only three or four people a

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Moinak Ghosh
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moinak Ghosh wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/23/08 8:06 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: What some of the corporate sponsors for the community choose to

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Shawn Walker
Moinak Ghosh wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 10/23/08 8:06 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: >>> What some of the corporate sponsors for the community choose to do with >>> their products and trademarks is their rightful decision and community >>> member

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Moinak Ghosh
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/23/08 8:06 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: >> What some of the corporate sponsors for the community choose to do with >> their products and trademarks is their rightful decision and community >> members should not expect to hav

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Stephen Lau
On 10/23/08 8:34 AM, Matt Wilby wrote: > Indeed. It's all good stuff. > > Just wanted to find out when the next release is due > > Steve - Is your example just an example? :-) > > Cheers, > > Matt Yup, t'was purely an example. I'm not at Sun, so I have no insight as to why it's delayed eithe

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Matt Wilby schrieb: > No note explaining the delay. Not very 'open' is it? > > b101 on consolidation doesn't contain all the files either. > > Not comparing Opensolaris with Linux or BSD for a minute, but at least with > something like OpenSUSE you get a basic explanation for delays in releases

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >> Sun *is* talking to the community, simply because they consider >> themselves (their exclusive employees) to constitute the "community". >> >> So YOU or I have no right to complain. >> >> See my d

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Stephen Lau
On 10/23/08 8:06 AM, Shawn Walker wrote: > What some of the corporate sponsors for the community choose to do with > their products and trademarks is their rightful decision and community > members should not expect to have control over them. > Very true... however I don't think Matt was expres

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >> Sun *is* talking to the community, simply because they consider >> themselves (their exclusive employees) to constitute the "community". >> >> So YOU or I have no right to complain. >> >> See my d

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Gress
Matt Wilby wrote: > No note explaining the delay. Not very 'open' is it? > > b101 on consolidation doesn't contain all the files either. > > Not comparing Opensolaris with Linux or BSD for a minute, but at least with > something like OpenSUSE you get a basic explanation for delays in releases. >

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Shawn Walker
Martin Bochnig wrote: > Sun *is* talking to the community, simply because they consider > themselves (their exclusive employees) to constitute the "community". > > So YOU or I have no right to complain. > > See my distro generator, THEY DON'T CARE. > NO INTEREST whatsoever. > 0xFF other examples.

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Bochnig
Sun *is* talking to the community, simply because they consider themselves (their exclusive employees) to constitute the "community". So YOU or I have no right to complain. See my distro generator, THEY DON'T CARE. NO INTEREST whatsoever. 0xFF other examples. I'm a stupid developer and sysadmin

[osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Shawn Walker
Fredrich Maney wrote: > I would submit that in the desktop realm, you would be correct. > However, in my experience in the server realm, custom builds are > pretty common. For example, until very recently (like the last 2 > years), I've rarely seen anyone run the Sun provided BIND, Sendmail or > Ap

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?

2008-10-23 Thread Matt Wilby
No note explaining the delay. Not very 'open' is it? b101 on consolidation doesn't contain all the files either. Not comparing Opensolaris with Linux or BSD for a minute, but at least with something like OpenSUSE you get a basic explanation for delays in releases. I'm not a developer, just a

Re: [osol-discuss] who is opensolaris for?

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Harper
There is a good argument a certain widely used OS from Redmond is a form of malware: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/12/monocultures_an.html When thinking of Windows one is reminded of Mr Smith from the Matrix reflecting on humans behaving like cancer. It is not accident that Windows

Re: [osol-discuss] The future of the IPS system

2008-10-23 Thread Fredrich Maney
I would submit that in the desktop realm, you would be correct. However, in my experience in the server realm, custom builds are pretty common. For example, until very recently (like the last 2 years), I've rarely seen anyone run the Sun provided BIND, Sendmail or Apache daemons on production serve

Re: [osol-discuss] [SVOSUG] 10/23, Arduino Night, buy a kit, build a kit, bring a board

2008-10-23 Thread Alan DuBoff
A friendly reminder of tonight's meeting. We have some giveaways we're raffling off. Everyone is welcome, on all systems, OpenSolaris, Linux, and FreeBSD, come one come all. Refer to my blog for latest info, and see the Wiki for info as well. My blog: http://blogs.sun.com/aland/ Wiki: http:/