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Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Pic
e as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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rst freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
" ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re
27; With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first tim
dden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
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With no moving parts and no local operating system to manage, Sun Ray Clients
provide a cost-effective, highly functional thin client alternative to desktop
and laptop computers and reduce many of the problems associated with
traditional desktop deployments.
http://www.kintek.com.au/";>Web Desi
I'll be looking forward to trying it out. Wish I could make it to the
unveiling... :)
-Alex Smith, Server+, Network+
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 17:53, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
> On Tuesday 14th September, we will be unveiling OpenIndiana – an
> exciting new distribution of
on
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Less pathetic posing, please. You said you were leaving "for good".
You don't need to ask site administrators to remove you from the mailing list:
you can do that yourself. Can't you even figure that much out?
It's sad to see this common, transparent dodge and gesture of protest employed
on thi
gpatrick wrote:
> thus my decision to leave for good.
It's nice to read about a positive development in this forum for a change.
If other Oracle shills/apologists (a.k.a. trolls) follow your example, the
signal to noise ratio of this forum will soon be back to a tolerable level.
There may yet
Well, whether or not you want press, good or bad, Phoronix has picked this up:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQxMA
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kgunders wrote:
> Corporations want to enjoy the benefit of being a 'legal person' but don't
> want to pay the requisite dues.
This is completely correct. Unfortunately, given that American society
tolerates corporations unilaterally renouncing their obligations to pay their
employees their pe
What is the benefit of OpenSolaris for Oracle? The same as the benefit of
Fedora for Red Hat: as far as I know, that was always the idea. However,
because of its commercial success, Oracle has evidently attained a level of
arrogance so high that it is incapable of understanding business models t
dclarke wrote:
>I have no love for that python disaster called IPS.
I think that conceptually, IPS is very good. Of course, it's silly to implement
system software in an interpreted language like Python. In time, if OpenSolaris
survives, hopefully someone will rewrite pkg in a more appropriate
Negative press is good.
Maybe if Oracle gets enough negative press, it will start behaving responsibly
and with a modicum of civility, instead of like an abusive, autistic,
sociopathic spouse.
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I've stopped holding my breath. The question of when the next major release of
OpenSolaris would come out was asked at an Sun-Oracle Briefing in Adelaide
today. The answer from Angus MacDonald, Chief Technology Officer, ANZ Systems
was "Quarter 4".
However he didn't say which year :-)
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Why are you responding to OP, when you obviously want to respond to me? (Now
you're going to think I'm belittling you...)
OP, whom I responded to in the message that has raised your ire, has 870 posts
on this site. Thus, he hardly qualifies as an OpenSolaris newbie, so i didn't
find it necessar
It plays fine, although in full screen mode, MPlayer didn't exit and I had to
kill it using pfexec. That's never happened to me before.
I built MPlayer myself, about a year ago. To be honest, with snv_134, I've had
trouble getting some applications to build that built under earlier releases of
Ogg video? I don't think I've ever run across that: why would someone use the
Ogg container instead of Matroska for video? Mplayer plays videos with Vorbis
audio inside mkv files fine for me.
If you can direct me to a sample of Ogg video, I can try playing it on my
system to tell you how well i
It is simply TRUE that "If you use OpenSolaris, you should know how to build
applications from source." Building applications from source is part of Unix
culture.
Notice I didn't say one MUST know how to do this. And accordingly, I provided
information about where to obtain already built binari
Thanks for correcting me! That's what I had in mind.
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Why are you worried about video codecs? If you use OpenSolaris, you should know
how to build applications from source. The last time I tried, MPlayer, the best
video player IMO, which comes with all the video codecs you might need, built
under OpenSolaris.
(There used to be an IPS repository wh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinvestment_from_Israel
"Disinvestment from Israel is a campaign conducted by religious and political
entities which aims to use disinvestment to pressure the government of Israel
to put "an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories captured
during
Native brands work only on normal Solaris, not OpenSolaris.
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Henry Pepper wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm running snv 134 on x86.
> I've run
> --
> zonecfg -z test
> create
> set zonepath=/zones/test
> set brand=native
> verify
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> I get:
> --
> test: unknown brand.
>
>
It's called Schadenfreude, a not uncommon human emotion, and sensationalism.
Headlines about "demise" are going to get more hits than articles about the
delay of a release due to showstopper bugs.
I think things will calm down once 2010.1H gets released. It will be
interesting to see how much a
> The bad attitude of the official discussions here causes heise to snear.
> Sorry, it is in german:
I read German. The article is largely about Oracle's lack of openness. Nothing
in the article leads me to believe that people expressing on this forum their
unease resulting from Oracle's failure
Hi all,
Is pkg.sun.com down?
I am trying to add the extra repo, but I cannot reach th elogin page for
some hours now.
Thanks.
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This was predicted a year ago here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/21/oracle_sun_open_source/
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> CERN now uses (not at all yet, but going there) ZFS just for the obvious
reasons! They produce massive data, and need that data to be correct
Just out of curiosity, do you know under what OS CERN uses ZFS?
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> We were promised de-dupe would be available a couple months after we
first purchased the units in December of 2008.
I'm surprised that Sun sales reps were pushing OpenSolaris as enterprise-ready,
given the analogy often made, which I accept, between RHEL : Fedora and Solaris
10 : OpenSolaris.
I'm very sorry, I intended but forgot to apologize in advance to technical
employees of Sun/Oracle. This post is certainly not directed to you.
But, to be fair, this is not a technical list. "Compilers", for example, is a
technical list. This, in contrast, is "OpenSolaris General Discussion. All
Before anyone says that the place to discuss this is the Oracle forums, with
some difficulty, I found
[url=http://forums.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=844&start=0]the appropriate
forum[/url]. But it seems to be much less active than the OpenSolaris forums.
There is [url=http://forums.sun.com/threa
raised this issue to
attention.
Thanks to whom can post a solution.
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And Linux-Branded Zones in particular.
If you want to demonstrate Linux running in a Solaris Zone to a bunch of Linux
users, you might find this of interest:
[url=http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_in_a_branded_zone]Installing
Arch Linux in a branded zone[/url].
>From
If you are a BSD fan, why are you lurking here, instead of spending time on BSD
forums, where you might stand a chance of making a useful contribution?
It's well known that there are BSD zealots out there who feel threatened by
OpenSolaris and so make a habit of belittling it, so you are not pro
> You "only" will no longer be allowed to used it. When or if-at-all Oracle
might think about sueing you, is totally unclear...
As I remarked earlier in this thread, judging by the Solaris 10 download pages,
I understand Oracle's policy to be that the 90 day limit does not apply if you
buy the
> These forums aren't censored for content, just for fowl language, we try to
> keep it civil here. I agree with Dennis Clarks warning.
Yes, they are censored for foul language. This is how the post that is
provoking the outrage appears if you view it in the Forums:
> let's not dis Open/Solari
> I will make an effort to have this sort of language and tone blocked and
your email removed permanently.
> This is unacceptable.
> speaking as a businessman I certianly [sic] do.
> Quite franky [sic], on these public mail lists, you will use correct english
> [sic] or
at least acceptable lang
Good for you.
Now, as an exercise, try to install FreeBSD Root on ZFS:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot
I hear it doesn't work.
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I haven't tried rxvt under Solaris, but Sakura works fine.
http://www.pleyades.net/david/sakura.php
Building it requires the cmake package.
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> There were some critical problems with 134, such as not being able to boot if
> one disk in a mirrored boot disk dies.
That's not good... I didn't know that. I have a mirrored boot disk. I guess
I've been living under a false sense of security...
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Yes, there's nothing necessarily wrong with a unified support policy in itself.
But Oracle has also adopted the policy of not allowing users the option of
paying a (significantly lower) fee to get updates without getting support. This
seem to be bad business, not to mention open hostility to use
t forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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And the forum's are now apparently now programmed to censor comments, although
they don't even have basic functionality like displaying boldface. "I can" and
"bugger" got turned into asterisks.
Brilliant.
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Hi Ken,
Here's a post by your Doppelgänger:
http://wikis.sun.com/display/SunSolve/How+Entitlement+Works?focusedCommentId=199106721#comment-199106721
> I can't seem to purchase a support contract. The only page that even lists
> the ability to purchase it is broken (see dpfloyd's comment), and I
> Suggest you read a little more thoroughly:
> "In order to use the Solaris operating system for perpetual commercial
use, each system running Solaris must be expressly licensed to do so. An
Entitlement Document comprises such license and is delivered to you
either with a new Sun system or from Su
> 2) Solaris 10 license are changed such that you can no longer use for
more than 90 days evaluation w/o "Entitlement". Again, w/o any advance
notice.
> 3) New Entitlements are now only available with purchase of SPARC
hardware.
I had a look at the licensing information that there is a link to on
e Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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Thanks for that explanation of why there is no failsafe boot option for
OpenSolaris. I had wondered about that, since I'd seen it in Solaris
Nevada/Express.
> Ok, except that the CD boot is much slower.
Why is that a problem? Why should one worry about the boot time for a rescue
procedure? Mos
Cool! Unfortunately, there does not seem to be an English version. I can read
French, but have never studied Spanish, much as I like the language...
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May you live long and prosper in Linuxland.
You mention "the horrible audio in linux". Linux actually has two different
audio systems, Open Sound System and ALSA, which are quite different. So one
can't speak of "audio in linux" in general.
i hear the system beep in Windows is very soothing. Yo
ere uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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h the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged.&quo
> "ordinary" users of any thing called Foo tend to first go to "foo.com"
Ha! I guess I'm not ordinary: given a choice between foo.com and foo.org, I'll
always take the latter. One might think that would make me a Linux enthusiast,
but I think there's something to be said for a formal organizatio
And what if they bought Sun because they liked Solaris and wanted to
see it shine brighter? Sorry for the pun... :)
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 15:39, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
> What makes you judge so quickly that Oracle is killing off Sun? They
> may keep the name, as far as we know...
&g
speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, S
Well, it's a good thing that for marketing purposes, Sun starting calling SunOS
"Solaris", starting with SunOS 5. If they hadn't done that, we'd have to to
call Solaris "OracleOS" now!
I haven't called Solaris "Sun Solaris", not even once. That even made less
sense after OpenSolaris was launche
irst freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star
ean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoti
Unlike some, I find IPS to be usable, but that doesn't change the fact that it
was lunacy to implement a packaging system in an interpreted language.
[url=http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell]Haskell[/url] would have been a
much better choice. The [url=http://xmonad.org/]Xmonad window mana
Thanks for your quick answers.
Now I have understand using man.
Thx
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Hello all,
I couldn't find a answer. Who can help me
What means the content in the brace at the man-pages?
Where can I find the description?
e.g.
zpool(1M) --> 1M
basename(1) --> 1
basename(1B) --> 1B
file(1) --> 1
file(1B) --> 1B
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#x27; Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
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Your post prompted me to try out mpd. It's a tremendous improvement over
Thunderbird. The OpenSolaris developers should make it and gmpc the default
music applications for osol: the client-server model makes mpd very Unixy.
Anyway, libmad and mpd built without problems on my box running snv_125.
ffmpeg built for me last July with
configure --cc=gcc-4.3.2 --extra-cflags="-Wa,--divide"
> A general "easily install GNU apps" guide would be awesome if one is out
> there.
My experience is that GNU apps build much more easily now under OpenSolaris
than they did when I started out with it a y
OK thanks, guess I'm too used to yum and pkg-get... :)
Cheers.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:54, Shawn Walker wrote:
> Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
>>
>> While we're talking about pkg, I've had an issue of having to manually
>> specify the full name of a packa
'*' can be used.
>
> The man page for pkg explains the search syntax and provides a few examples.
>
> See:
>
> $ man pkg
>
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freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
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Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG epi
Hi and thx for the reply,
Do you mean there are no accessible packed binaries on the opensolaris
website but only manifests
for an online update or installation ?
Anyway, i successfully installed several packages i needed such as
gcc, but i can't find
dev headers, to build a simple hello world wi
rodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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- Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA
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ought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Sat
th the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all dama
irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Dr
were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
- Alex Smith (K4RNT)
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Martin Bochnig ha scritto:
And it
needs GUI tools to administer Enterprise features.
?
Regards
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en, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhea
For some reason, some text got lost from the end of my post. It should have
been:
On the Linux box, transmits are followed by receives:
transmit: at 855 192.168.1.2->174.133.44.162 mode 3
receive: at 855 192.168.1.2<-174.133.44.162 mode 4 code 1 auth 0
Whereas on the osol box, they are not: the
I've been trying to get ntp to work, but ntpd can't connect to peers. The only
way I can set my system time with ntp is by using ntpdate -u, even when
ipfilter is disabled.
Here is my ntp.conf file:
driftfile /var/ntp/ntp.drift
server ac-ntp1.net.cmu.edu
server 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org ibu
> What do I have to configure
> to enable a multiple boot environment with opensolaris?
What you did should work. OpenSolaris's GRUB reads menu.list in
/rpool/boot/grub.
Configuring a multiple boot environment with osol is easy, especially if you
boot off different disks. Can you boot into your
; ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’
first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
- Alex Smith (K4RNT)
- Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA
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den on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
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> You'll see a comment on July 16th where the author of the article, Chris
> Joesephes says:
@system5:
OK, so the author calls it a parody. I read that comment, but I didn't notice
that it was by the author himself.
Still, I wouldn't call it a parody. A parody typically exaggerates something,
s were uttered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
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i use opensoalris
#svcs
#mantenance Jul_21 svc:/system/cryptosvc:default
#svcs -xv svc:/system/cryptosvc:default
cat the log
find
"[ Jul 20 07:54:56 Enabled. ]
[ Jul 20 07:54:57 Executing start method ("/sbin/cryptoadm start"). ]
cryptoadm: failed to open /dev/cryptoadm: No such file o
I don't think that's a parody article. As far as I can tell, the article is
straight, and it makes sense to me. Since Oracle hasn't had much success
grabbing market share from Red Hat, why should it put much effort into
Unbreakable Linux? That's especially the case now that it owns Solaris: othe
Just did a pkgadd -d on the package, and ran /opt/sfw/bin/firefox
directly. I changed my launchers in GNOME to launch the new Firefox.
The old Firefox still exists on my machine.
I didn't do anything special.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Joerg
Schilling wrote:
> "Alex Smith (K
ered by Judge Aaron
Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead"
- Alex Smith (K4RNT)
- Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA
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