Hi Guys,
It would be nice to have single solid DVD ISO download as an option.
Though I know the parts need to be retained for folks who want the DVD
ISO but have bad connections.
-J
On 2/23/07, john g4lt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What's the functional difference to the user between getting a
Hi,
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from a mounted
image?
Posting late to an old thread, but very much
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more concerned about community members with a single
Ultra
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more concerned about community members with a single
Ultra 10, or older PC without
Sebastien Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more
On 2/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are the engineering benefits got out of abandoning CD-ROMS greater than
the loss of a few (?) developers, students and users ?
This is something we need to discuss; and what alternatives there might
be.
Driving upward the installer
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more concerned about community
John Plocher wrote:
It sounds like the answer is probably along the lines of
don't do this right now; come back in 6 to 12 months and
ask again...
Sounds reasonable to me.
The most consistent feedback (ok, vats of vitriol) that
I get about the OpenSolaris download process is two-fold:
1) why
I believe I know some of the answers/reasons for (2), but
it would be *really good* if they could be spelt out on the
dlc.sun.com site as well as sun.com/downloads.
If we have a better understanding of the reasons, it might be possible
to come up with a, possibly stripped down, torrentable
James C. McPherson wrote:
John Plocher wrote:
It sounds like the answer is probably along the lines of
don't do this right now; come back in 6 to 12 months and
ask again...
Sounds reasonable to me.
The most consistent feedback (ok, vats of vitriol) that
I get about the OpenSolaris download
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
James C. McPherson wrote:
John Plocher wrote:
It sounds like the answer is probably along the lines of
don't do this right now; come back in 6 to 12 months and
ask again...
Sounds reasonable to me.
The most consistent feedback (ok, vats of vitriol) that
I get about the
James C. McPherson wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
James C. McPherson wrote:
[...]
1) why is there no link to the solitary sparc or x86
dvd iso image? People *really* hate having to start
5 or 6 separate downloads when they have the connection
to sustain a single iso download.
As a
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from a mounted
image?
No problem for me. But YES for a bunch of students who are trying to get
Are the engineering benefits got out of abandoning CD-ROMS greater than
the loss of a few (?) developers, students and users ?
This is something we need to discuss; and what alternatives there might
be.
Driving upward the installer footprint, requiring live upgrade and
other current plans
On 2/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are the engineering benefits got out of abandoning CD-ROMS greater than
the loss of a few (?) developers, students and users ?
This is something we need to discuss; and what alternatives there might
be.
Driving upward the installer
On 2/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are the engineering benefits got out of abandoning CD-ROMS greater than
the loss of a few (?) developers, students and users ?
This is something we need to discuss; and what alternatives there might
be.
Driving upward the installer
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from a mounted
image?
Like others have mentioned, what I think should be done is to have one
James C. McPherson wrote:
2) why don't Sun provide a torrent?
Some of the third-party software in Solaris requires certain
agreements be made with those who redistribute. BitTorrent
could be seen as allowing redistribution by people who haven't
agreed to those license terms. If we someday
Ananth Shrinivas wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from a mounted
image?
No problem for me. But YES for a bunch of students
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Ananth Shrinivas wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from a mounted
image?
No
On 2/24/07, Eric Boutilier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Ananth Shrinivas wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another
Regarding Casper's and Bill's posts about a single-CD + network network
based install: This topic came up in install-discuss too, and over there
Dave Miner just wrote:
Date: Sat Feb 24 09:52:39 2007
From: Dave Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [install-discuss] distributed locations for
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Ananth Shrinivas wrote:
[...]
No problem for me. But YES for a bunch of students who are trying to
get their feet wet with OpenSolaris. There is already some
bad-mouthing about how the Developer Edition needs a truckload of RAM
to
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote:
More so when Developer Edition can actually run fine
with half the RAM that is required to install it.
Moinak -- I think that's 128 MB, correct? Don't you need way more than 128
to effectively run a SX Developer Edition
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
In that case another alternative is to have the download center
generate a shell script on the fly that will have all the wget,
md5sum and sundry with URLs valid for the particular login
session and proxy settings being detected from the browser's
settings.
.. And
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
James C. McPherson wrote:
2) why don't Sun provide a torrent?
Some of the third-party software in Solaris requires certain
agreements be made with those who redistribute. BitTorrent
could be seen as allowing redistribution by people who haven't
agreed to those
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote:
On 2/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question we can ask ourselves as community are:
- Can OpenSolaris distributions fill the low-end void?
from the opensolaris web page: To build OpenSolaris from the source,
you first need to
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Eric Boutilier wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Moinak Ghosh wrote:
More so when Developer Edition can actually run fine
with half the RAM that is required to install it.
Moinak -- I think that's 128 MB, correct? Don't you need way more
than 128
to effectively
Due to some changes planned in the way install images are built
for Solaris Nevada, we've been having an internal discussion this
week about whether it would be okay to drop CD images for the
future Nevada builds (which the community sees as Solaris Express:
Community Edition) and only have DVD
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Due to some changes planned in the way install images are built
for Solaris Nevada, we've been having an internal discussion this
week about whether it would be okay to drop CD images for the
future Nevada builds (which the community sees as Solaris
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more concerned about community members with a single
Ultra 10, or older PC without a DVD burner than any rack-mounted server.
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Unfortunately, Sun did not sell DVD drives for the v20z.
Are there many v20z owners who don't have another machine to netinstall
from? I'm much more concerned about community members with a single
Ultra 10, or older PC
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from a mounted
image?
Speaking personally, no I
On 2/23/07, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from another system or Live Upgrade from
On 2/23/07, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote:
On 2/23/07, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't
Hi Alan,
We've removed all of our v20z's so its not an issue for us...but if we
still had them it would be painful in extreme circumstances. The ILOM
and ELOM both support remote ISO mounting, and the basic BMC on the
v20z doesn't. So in an emergency you're stuck with CDs.
Best Regards,
Jason
Getting rid of CDs is not a good idea at least for a while. I deal with
users from around the world everyday and there are many who do not have
either DVD reading or writing capabilities. (Some don't have CD burning
hardware either, but that is getting to be rare.) Surely many of these
will
What's the functional difference to the user between getting a dvd
image that's split into 5 parts and 5 iso images first of all? if the
dvd image is going to be split anyways, why not make each image able
to be burnt independently? With the present dvd image split up into
5 files, I see no
On 2/23/07, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Due to some changes planned in the way install images are built
for Solaris Nevada, we've been having an internal discussion this
week about whether it would be okay to drop CD images for the
future Nevada builds (which the community sees as
James Dickens wrote:
On 2/23/07, *Alan Coopersmith* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Due to some changes planned in the way install images are built
for Solaris Nevada, we've been having an internal discussion this
week about whether it would be okay to drop CD
We've got some statistics which show downloaders seem to prefer
let's see the numbers.
DVD images over CD at about a 2:1 ratio - but we don't know if those
downloading CD images could use DVD images instead.
The data you have in hand clearly says that you have a pile of people
that do
Dennis Clarke wrote:
The data you have in hand clearly says that you have a pile of people
that do actually download the CDROM images. This is the same as the large
pile of people out there running Solaris 8. I don't think we can simply
shut the door on them without fair warning. Well, some
Thanks for your feedback - the people proposing this are taking it
into consideration, and the current proposal was not approved.
--
-Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
February 2007 Selection: LSARC Chair
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote:
On 2/23/07, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Would you have a problem with DVD-only images for SX:CE? Do you have
systems you use for OpenSolaris that don't have DVD drives and that
you can't netinstall from
Dennis Clarke wrote:
The data you have in hand clearly says that you have a pile of people
that do actually download the CDROM images. This is the same as the large
pile of people out there running Solaris 8. I don't think we can simply
shut the door on them without fair warning. Well,
It sounds like the answer is probably along the lines of
don't do this right now; come back in 6 to 12 months and
ask again...
-John
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