Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Helen
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Manu Gupta wrote: > Hi All > > I know it might be pretty hard for you to reach suseware.com. I > understand it perfectly. Moreover, I did not like the home page too and > yes things needs to be linked. I thought it was a nice home page - simple, elegant. Yes the g

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Manu Gupta
Hi All I know it might be pretty hard for you to reach suseware.com. I understand it perfectly. Moreover, I did not like the home page too and yes things needs to be linked. Ok. The idea is over here http://piratepad.net/ilZIqohN83 One part is this www.suseware.com/moodle The other part is www.s

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Helen
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: . and on checking the source, I now see that they don't > link anywhere. Oh right. wondered if it was just me. They -DO- have a text show up underneath as you mouse over, but it's grey against the dark background so hard to see, certainly on

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 16:08:31 Izabel Valverde wrote: > Dear Graham, > > We would be glad to hear your positive thoughts! > > Izabel Hi Izabel, I would love to be able to contribute, but unfortunately I can't get past a blank page with a row of unlabelled icons that seemingly do nothing exce

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Izabel Valverde
Dear Graham, We would be glad to hear your positive thoughts! Izabel 2010/9/29 Graham Lauder : > On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 10:47:52 Carlos Ribeiro wrote: >> Javier, >> >> Pretty good idea, also I believe will be good if you talk a little bit >> about our project and idea with Manu because as I kn

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 15:24:04 susero...@bryen.com wrote: > Easy on Manu. Its a very recent work in progress. Don't jump so quickly on > a hatchling. > > Amd moreover, Manu is a part of our team and deserves a more constructive > form of criticism as I know he is often open to it. Let's treat

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread suserocks
Easy on Manu. Its a very recent work in progress. Don't jump so quickly on a hatchling. Amd moreover, Manu is a part of our team and deserves a more constructive form of criticism as I know he is often open to it. Let's treat our fellow team members with respect and encouragement than nega

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 10:47:52 Carlos Ribeiro wrote: > Javier, > > Pretty good idea, also I believe will be good if you talk a little bit > about our project and idea with Manu because as I know he is working on > a project called suseware, http://suseware.com/home/ and If I'm not > mistake the

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Jueves, 30 de Septiembre de 2010 00:54:30 Jos Poortvliet escribió: > On Thursday 30 September 2010 00:26:09 Helen wrote: > > How hard is it to convert to multiple e-reader formats including PDF? > > That is actually a pretty good point. If our Wiki is good enough in terms > of content, we can t

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Jueves, 30 de Septiembre de 2010 14:01:14 Bryen Yunashko escribió: > On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 17:34 -0400, Chuck Payne wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rémy Marquis wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Javier Llorente wrote: > > >> Hello there, > > >> > > >> I was thinking

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Miércoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2010 23:57:52 Helen escribió: > I like the idea of a 'go to' book but understood that this was the > function of the wiki. Do I have the wrong impression? > > Duplicaton of effort is a bad idea, but I do like having the 'best and > most current' readily available.

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Miércoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2010 23:29:42 Rémy Marquis escribió: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Javier Llorente wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf > > format ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to

Re: Etherpad: Was [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Jueves, 30 de Septiembre de 2010 13:57:23 Bryen Yunashko escribió: > On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 21:59 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > Ambitious, but a good idea. We can do the writing either on the wiki > > or in piratepads (but piratepad has been acting up lately, I really > > really hope someone f

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
Hi Carlos On Miércoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2010 23:47:52 Carlos Ribeiro escribió: > Javier, > > Pretty good idea, also I believe will be good if you talk a little bit > about our project and idea with Manu because as I know he is working on > a project called suseware, http://suseware.com/home/

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Miércoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2010 21:59:56 Jos Poortvliet escribió: > On Wednesday 29 September 2010 20:27:11 Javier Llorente wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf > > format ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Miércoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2010 21:14:58 usted escribió: > Good stuff, specially if it is at the level of the previous which came > with SuSE Linux (I have from 6.0 to 7.1). Though I've really never used > them, they used to pack powerful information for anyone moving in to > SuSE Linux back

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread suserocks
I would seriosly doubt the ad thing. Publishers would quit in a minute. And amazon requires that ads be stripped from subscription material. Over in gnome I proposed connecting planet gnome to lindle and we are looking into that now. There's lots og gnome kindle users. I also sent info to )

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 30 September 2010 00:26:09 Helen wrote: > How hard is it to convert to multiple e-reader formats including PDF? That is actually a pretty good point. If our Wiki is good enough in terms of content, we can try and figure out how to automate creating a book. Well, fully automatic would

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
On Miércoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2010 21:00:29 Raul Libório escribió: > Would be a complement to http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Official_documentation? Yepp. Some topics aren't covered in the official docs. Nevertheless, it could be reused. Greetings, -- Javier Llorente signature.asc Description

Re: Etherpad: Was [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 30 September 2010 13:57:23 Bryen Yunashko wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 21:59 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > > > Ambitious, but a good idea. We can do the writing either on the wiki > > or in piratepads (but piratepad has been acting up lately, I really > > really hope someone feels

Re: Etherpad: Was [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread suserocks
The downtimes are precisely why I've fallen so far behind that I've given up Bryen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Helen Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:43:56 To: Subject: Re: Etherpad: Was [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal This is a se

Re: Etherpad: Was [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Helen
This is a sensationally good idea. Piratepad is driving me nuts atm. Also for international users, downtimes are often exactly when they are trying to work (early am in host country). I also have some reservations about not being able to delete the material on these pads, and having never seen a

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Helen
How hard is it to convert to multiple e-reader formats including PDF? E-readers have not yet taken off in Australia and I wouldn't buy a Kindle anyway. (It's only a matter of time before Amazon starts sticking advertising at random through your books.) Other handheld devices - 7 inch tablet/pads,

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Bryen Yunashko
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 14:01 +0200, Bryen Yunashko wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 17:34 -0400, Chuck Payne wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rémy Marquis > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Javier Llorente > > > wrote: > > >> Hello there, > > >> > > >> I was thinking that

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Bryen Yunashko
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 17:34 -0400, Chuck Payne wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rémy Marquis wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Javier Llorente > > wrote: > >> Hello there, > >> > >> I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf > >> format > >> ready

Re: Etherpad: Was [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Bryen Yunashko
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 21:59 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > Ambitious, but a good idea. We can do the writing either on the wiki > or in piratepads (but piratepad has been acting up lately, I really > really hope someone feels like setting up an Etherpad for openSUSE) So, have you made a propos

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Helen
I like the idea of a 'go to' book but understood that this was the function of the wiki. Do I have the wrong impression? Duplicaton of effort is a bad idea, but I do like having the 'best and most current' readily available. A related issue is navigation and SEO of existing material. For instance

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
yeah! Nelson, talking about cookbooks, makes me remember what I saw last night. http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI_Cookbook_Start_Cooking http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI_Cookbook_Virtual_Image http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI_Cookbook_Own_Cloud awesome http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI_Cookbook_LiveSys

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
Javier, Pretty good idea, also I believe will be good if you talk a little bit about our project and idea with Manu because as I know he is working on a project called suseware, http://suseware.com/home/ and If I'm not mistake the main purpose of suseware is to delivery training materials for ope

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Chuck Payne
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rémy Marquis wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Javier Llorente wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf format >> ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to a publishing >> compan

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Rémy Marquis
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Javier Llorente wrote: > Hello there, > > I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf format > ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to a publishing > company is a good idea. > > So, here's my proposal: > > First, we w

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Junior Job Page

2010-09-29 Thread Helen
Great idea. I think I'd seen a page like this before, maybe the bug fixing one, when I was looking for something to help with. I'm not too keen on 'Junior' as it always makes me thinks of children or even toddlers! While I understand the intention it just reads very awkwardly. However the only fix

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday 29 September 2010 20:27:11 Javier Llorente wrote: > Hello there, > > I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf format > ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to a publishing > company is a good idea. > > So, here's my proposal: > >

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Junior Job Page

2010-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday 29 September 2010 19:31:29 Michael Loeffler wrote: > Moin, > On Wednesday 29 September 2010 19:20:22 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 September 2010 16:17:16 Michael Loeffler wrote: > > > Moin, > > > > > > I updated/extended the "Junior Job" page [1] and like to get your > >

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Nelson Marques
Good stuff, specially if it is at the level of the previous which came with SuSE Linux (I have from 6.0 to 7.1). Though I've really never used them, they used to pack powerful information for anyone moving in to SuSE Linux back then. I look forward to see a community driver 'cook book' for openSUS

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Raul Libório
Would be a complement to http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Official_documentation? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:27, Javier Llorente wrote: > Hello there, > > I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf format > ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to a publi

[opensuse-marketing] Slides for Conference...

2010-09-29 Thread Nelson Marques
Hi, I've already uploaded my presentation on PDF and ODP and you are free to grab it from my fedorapeople.org space[1]. No new contents, just rephrased some of them to become more friendly and stripped down some contents to what really matters. I'm also building a support page for those slides

Re: [opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Chuck Payne
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Javier Llorente wrote: > Hello there, > > I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf format > ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to a publishing > company is a good idea. > > So, here's my proposal: > > First, we w

[opensuse-marketing] The openSUSE Handbook proposal

2010-09-29 Thread Javier Llorente
Hello there, I was thinking that having an openSUSE Handbook (or handbuch ;) in pdf format ready to be downloaded, printed and even ready to be sent to a publishing company is a good idea. So, here's my proposal: First, we would have to make a list of topics to be included and organise them i

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Junior Job Page

2010-09-29 Thread Michael Loeffler
Moin, On Wednesday 29 September 2010 19:20:22 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Wednesday 29 September 2010 16:17:16 Michael Loeffler wrote: > > Moin, > > > > I updated/extended the "Junior Job" page [1] and like to get your > > feedback or your edits on the page. > > Purpose of the page is to give a lo

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: [opensuse-buildservice] OBS 2.1 Beta 1 released

2010-09-29 Thread Will Stephenson
On Wednesday 29 September 2010 12:37:01 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > We developed also the idea to market OBS as "Gläserne Fabrik", which > > translates to "Transparent Factory", but direct translation would be > > actually "Glas-like Factory". > > > > > > > > While I like the german term very much (

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Junior Job Page

2010-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday 29 September 2010 16:17:16 Michael Loeffler wrote: > Moin, > > I updated/extended the "Junior Job" page [1] and like to get your feedback or > your edits on the page. > Purpose of the page is to give a low level entry point to people with basic > technical knowledge interested in

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Junior Job Page

2010-09-29 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Michelle, On 29.09.2010 16:17, Michael Loeffler wrote: > I updated/extended the "Junior Job" page [1] and like to get your feedback or > your edits on the page. > Purpose of the page is to give a low level entry point to people with basic > technical knowledge interested in openSUSE. Therefor

[opensuse-marketing] Junior Job Page

2010-09-29 Thread Michael Loeffler
Moin, I updated/extended the "Junior Job" page [1] and like to get your feedback or your edits on the page. Purpose of the page is to give a low level entry point to people with basic technical knowledge interested in openSUSE. Therefor I'd like to give a short list of todo's and not a detail

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Question about bureaucracy

2010-09-29 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 27 September 2010 05:09:00 Henne Vogelsang wrote: > We have a status like that: Membership. What do you think needs to be > improved to make this more recognizable for the outside world? Speed up creation of foundation, please. Then, all that I see as need for source of credibility for

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: [opensuse-buildservice] OBS 2.1 Beta 1 released

2010-09-29 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday 29 September 2010 10:54:02 Adrian Schröter wrote: > Am Montag, 27. September 2010, 15:09:33 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > > On Sunday 26 September 2010 17:23:01 Carlos Ribeiro wrote: > > > Jos, > > > > > > Yes, we already did piratepad for the obs 2.1 draf for announcement, > > > http://p

Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: [opensuse-buildservice] OBS 2.1 Beta 1 released

2010-09-29 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Montag, 27. September 2010, 15:09:33 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > On Sunday 26 September 2010 17:23:01 Carlos Ribeiro wrote: > > Jos, > > > > Yes, we already did piratepad for the obs 2.1 draf for announcement, > > http://piratepad.net/VXa1B1xryD > > Hi, > > I suggest to explain what obs is righ