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--- On Thu, 26/3/09, Ron Carson wrote:
From: Ron Carson
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best practice
To: "Veronica"
Date: Thursday, 26 March, 2009, 11:13 PM
Veroni
ation. If you have done this and still "know"
the equipment is inappropriate, do NOT recommend it!
Good luck,
Ron
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From: Veronica
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009
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Subj: [OTlist] Best practice
V> Ron, I wish I knew why this
any, and who is
to pay for it.
Warmly
susanne, denmark
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From: "Veronica"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best practice
> Ron, I wish I knew why this mum is asking for inappropriate
> equipment. At the moment there appears to
Ron, I wish I knew why this mum is asking for inappropriate equipment. At the
moment there appears to be a 'competition' element in my area where one child
gets a piece of equipment provided because they DO need it, and then the other
mum's hear about it and insist that THEIR child also needs i
SURE that the mom is NOT correct? Why do you think the mom wants
equipment that you feel is inappropriate?
Thanks,
Ron
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From: Veronica
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Subj: [OTlist] Best practice
V> Hi Ron, this approach has been tried (
Hi Ron, this approach has been tried (and failed) in the past. Mum is a rather
interesting character who is trying to make her daughter more 'disabled' than
she is. This child has a very mild spastic CP and is in fact ambulatory.
There is no functional reason why she should not be mobilising
d of the equipment. This will then allow her to make an
informed decision. To me, THIS is best practice and also empowers and
educates the mom.
Thanks,
Ron
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From: Veronica
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Su
Does the patient have any issues with tone? Typically drop-down shower
seats have no arms or positioning belts. If a patient has increased
tone, it may kick in and cause them to slide off the seat or to hit
the walls of the shower causing injury. If they have decreased tone,
do they have an
Hi, does anyone have any (research) information that would help substantiate
why it would be a BAD idea for a teenager (or adult) with a neurological
condition to use a drop-down shower seat? One of my collegues has a child that
she is currently working with and the mother is applying A LOT of
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cac> How did you form such a definition of occupation and this rigid
cac> form of who we are as a profession?? Historically speaking the
cac> type of "occupations" involving ADL/IADL th
Chris, I'm going to reply, but I need to take a break ...
Ron
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Ron>> And, I do not think
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice
Chris, unfortunately I don't have time to respond in length but let me
quickly say this. If we extrapolating out the contention that FOCUSED
work at the component level to facilitate function is considered OT,
then many different professions are doing O
focus treatment at the component level
with the belief that increased component-level function will increase
overall function.
Ron
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Thought you might all be interested in an international discussion on
very much the same thing
I just cut a piece of the conversation out of the Australian stroke
list serve to post. It is happening with OT everywhere.
What
Ron> And, I do not think a therapist can mentally switch from
Ron> component level to occupation level treatment. Maybe I'm
Ron> wrong, but I think it's one or the other.
But in your case study you are switching back and forth from the
component level to eventually the
Ron> But I think calling such focal treatments occupational
Ron> therapy, is not consistent with our history, framework, payers,
Ron> patients and outcomes.
I'm not sure what history you are talking about, but we were primarily
created from a mental health framework, in which "occu
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Ron> But I think calling such focal treatments occupational
Ron> therapy, is not consistent with our history, framework, payers,
Ron> patients and outcomes.
I'm no
Sorry about the way the post looks. For some reason it wouldn't wrap right.
Audra Ray
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From: Audra Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 6:45
"However, the goal is the occupation, not
the components. FOCUSED component level treatment is the realm of PT.
And if it's not, it should be. Because when the focus of treatment is
on the component(s), it can't be also on the occupation. And, I do not
think a therapist can mentally switch
rong, but I think it's one or
the other.
Ron
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CA> I think the message here limits the power of task an
: otlist@otnow.com
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I think the message here limits the power of task analysis and task
equivalency. There a MANY times when a client will need physical agent
modalities/ neuromuscular re-education, lymphedema treatment , etc to
prepare a body segment to perform then
necessary in my opinion. We are
competent to see the process from beginning to end.
Carmen
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:17:43 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: OTlist@OTnow.com
> Subject: [OTlist] Best Practice
>
> I just posted the
: Neal Luther
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Neal, I've been pondering the below question for some time. The
question really had me thinking about my evaluation process. Then I
remembered that the eval form that I use (provided by the home health
agency) includes a check box se
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NL> The only occupation mentioned (toileting)is in relation to pain. Your
NL> goals reflect occupational performance areas but your eval does not.
NL> Why?
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Subject
ehalf Of Cheryl Frost
Sent: October 10, 2008 5:42 PM
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Hi all,
In response to the question of my area of practice, well, I'm a first
year OT Master's student (I survived my first month!) in Alberta. The
discussion
old MS, OTR
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Chris, do you have a reference for the below???
Thanks,
Ron
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Chris wrote "We were in fact a sub speciality of physical therapy
in the military."
On a similar note
The first OTs in Canada were taught in the Faculty of Applied Science
(Engineering). OT here was not subsumed by medicine until after world
war two and it was at that time that joint OT/PT
Chris, do you have a reference for the below???
Thanks,
Ron
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cac> We were in fact a subspeciality of physical therapy i
Instead, our primary
role, and distinction is remediating occupational issues.
Ron
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From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008
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Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice
NL> Ron,
NL> Your splitting hairs
Hi all,
In response to the question of my area of practice, well, I'm a first year OT
Master's student (I survived my first month!) in Alberta. The discussion
regarding Best Practice is really interesting to me. Right now, we have a class
dedicated to studying occupation itself; that is, with n
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Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:36 PM
To: Neal Luther
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice
Neal, it seems that we look at things differently:
You say:
"we do higher level IADL tasks ... usually to wo
as a
whole would benefit.
Ron
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P> Ron,
P> You say "I don't take ROM or muscle strength measure
atrics, neuro, etc. But unlike other approaches, an OT
using an occupation-based approach has one single purpose and reason
for being, and that is improving occupational performance.
Thanks,
Ron
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approaches, an OT
using an occupation-based approach has one single purpose and reason
for being, and that is improving occupational performance.
Thanks,
Ron
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.and if cognition cannot be remediated?
Joan
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Sent: October 9, 2008 7:47 PM
To: Joan Riches
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice and OT expertise
Hello Joan:
Thanks for writing. I
n that's what I would do. So
again, I don't see where my approach excludes cognition. But, maybe
I'm wrong!
Ron
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activity, it's
RETURNING them to activity.
Does any of this make sense or is it just "rubbish"
Ron
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NL
MS, OTR
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Chris, I'm not quite sure what solutions to discuss, but here's a
venture.
If the concern is that some OT
To Ron and the List,
Great discussion about best practice, and I agree with Chris Nahrwold's
recent comments...very well put ...and Joan Riches comments as well (I am a
fellow Canadian..now U.S. Citizen).
According to the current criteria, in my work geriatric clients at a SNF, I
am pro
Hello
I am very pleased to see some of the vocabulary from Enabling Occupation
II 'shaping' and 'enabling' appearing in the discussion. 'Contrived' is
the other side of that coin. The way we express ourselves has a huge
effect on the way we are able to think. Hans Jonsson has done some
really help
ove
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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:13 PM
To: Neal Luther
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice
Why?
Ron
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From: Neal Luth
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RC> Chris, I'm not quite sure what solutions to discuss, but here's a
RC> venture.
RC> If the concern is that some OT
derful world.
Ron
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cac> Any concrete solutions?
cac> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR
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