Re: [OTlist] Best practice

2009-03-27 Thread Lucy Simpson
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2009-03-26 Thread Ron Carson
ation. If you have done this and still "know" the equipment is inappropriate, do NOT recommend it! Good luck, Ron - Original Message - From: Veronica Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best practice V> Ron, I wish I knew why this

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2009-03-26 Thread susanne
any, and who is to pay for it. Warmly susanne, denmark Original Message From: "Veronica" To: Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best practice > Ron, I wish I knew why this mum is asking for inappropriate > equipment. At the moment there appears to

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2009-03-26 Thread Veronica
Ron, I wish I knew why this mum is asking for inappropriate equipment.  At the moment there appears to be a 'competition' element in my area where one child gets a piece of equipment provided because they DO need it, and then the other mum's hear about it and insist that THEIR child also needs i

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2009-03-26 Thread Ron Carson
SURE that the mom is NOT correct? Why do you think the mom wants equipment that you feel is inappropriate? Thanks, Ron - Original Message - From: Veronica Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best practice V> Hi Ron, this approach has been tried (

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2009-03-26 Thread Veronica
Hi Ron, this approach has been tried (and failed) in the past.  Mum is a rather interesting character who is trying to make her daughter more 'disabled' than she is.  This child has a very mild spastic CP and is in fact ambulatory.  There is no functional reason why she should not be mobilising

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2009-03-26 Thread Ron Carson
d of the equipment. This will then allow her to make an informed decision. To me, THIS is best practice and also empowers and educates the mom. Thanks, Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT www.OTnow.com - Original Message - From: Veronica Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Su

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2009-03-26 Thread Mary Alice Cafiero
Does the patient have any issues with tone? Typically drop-down shower seats have no arms or positioning belts. If a patient has increased tone, it may kick in and cause them to slide off the seat or to hit the walls of the shower causing injury. If they have decreased tone, do they have an

[OTlist] Best practice

2009-03-26 Thread Veronica
Hi, does anyone have any (research) information that would help substantiate why it would be a BAD idea for a teenager (or adult) with a neurological condition to use a drop-down shower seat?  One of my collegues has a child that she is currently working with and the mother is applying A LOT of

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2009-03-20 Thread Ron Carson
aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice cac> How did you form such a definition of occupation and this rigid cac> form of who we are as a profession?? Historically speaking the cac> type of "occupations" involving ADL/IADL th

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2008-10-30 Thread Ron Carson
Chris, I'm going to reply, but I need to take a break ... Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice Ron>> And, I do not think 

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2008-10-29 Thread cmnahrwold
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Chris, unfortunately I don't have time to respond in length but let me quickly say this. If we extrapolating out the contention that FOCUSED work at the component level to facilitate function is considered OT, then many different professions are doing O

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2008-10-29 Thread Ron Carson
focus treatment at the component level with the belief that increased component-level function will increase overall function. Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [O

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2008-10-29 Thread Sue Doyle
Thought you might all be interested in an international discussion on very much the same thing I just cut a piece of the conversation out of the Australian stroke list serve to post. It is happening with OT everywhere. What

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2008-10-29 Thread cmnahrwold
Ron> And, I do not think  a  therapist  can  mentally  switch  from  Ron> component  level  to occupation  level  treatment. Maybe I'm Ron> wrong, but I think it's one or the other. But in your case study you are switching back and forth from the component level to eventually the

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2008-10-29 Thread cmnahrwold
Ron> But I think calling such focal  treatments  occupational  Ron> therapy,  is  not consistent with our history, framework, payers, Ron> patients and outcomes. I'm not sure what history you are talking about, but we were primarily created from a mental health framework, in which "occu

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2008-10-29 Thread cmnahrwold
EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OTlist@OTnow.com Sent: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 8:46 pm Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Ron> But I think calling such focal  treatments  occupational  Ron> therapy,  is  not consistent with our history, framework, payers, Ron> patients and outcomes. I'm no

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2008-10-28 Thread Audra Ray
Sorry about the way the post looks. For some reason it wouldn't wrap right. Audra Ray --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Audra Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Audra Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice To: OTlist@OTnow.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 6:45

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2008-10-28 Thread Audra Ray
"However, the goal is the occupation, not the components. FOCUSED component level treatment is the realm of PT. And if it's not, it should be. Because when the focus of treatment is on the component(s), it can't be also on the occupation. And, I do not think a therapist can mentally switch

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2008-10-28 Thread Ron Carson
rong, but I think it's one or the other. Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Carmen Aguirre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 To: otlist@otnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice CA> I think the message here limits the power of task an

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2008-10-28 Thread Neal Luther
: otlist@otnow.com Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice I think the message here limits the power of task analysis and task equivalency. There a MANY times when a client will need physical agent modalities/ neuromuscular re-education, lymphedema treatment , etc to prepare a body segment to perform then

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2008-10-27 Thread Carmen Aguirre
necessary in my opinion. We are competent to see the process from beginning to end. Carmen > Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:17:43 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: OTlist@OTnow.com > Subject: [OTlist] Best Practice > > I just posted the

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2008-10-15 Thread Neal Luther
: Neal Luther Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Neal, I've been pondering the below question for some time. The question really had me thinking about my evaluation process. Then I remembered that the eval form that I use (provided by the home health agency) includes a check box se

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2008-10-15 Thread Ron Carson
AIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice NL> The only occupation mentioned (toileting)is in relation to pain. Your NL> goals reflect occupational performance areas but your eval does not. NL> Why? -- Options? www.

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2008-10-13 Thread Neal Luther
b Program Coordinator Advanced Home Care 1-336-878-8824 xt 3205 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Care is our Business...Caring is our Specialty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:49 AM To: Neal Luther Subject

Re: [OTlist] Best Practice and OT expertise

2008-10-13 Thread Joan Riches
ehalf Of Cheryl Frost Sent: October 10, 2008 5:42 PM To: otlist@otnow.com Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice and OT expertise Hi all, In response to the question of my area of practice, well, I'm a first year OT Master's student (I survived my first month!) in Alberta. The discussion

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2008-10-11 Thread cmnahrwold
old MS, OTR -Original Message- From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 6:49 am Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Chris, do you have a reference for the below??? Thanks, Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &l

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2008-10-11 Thread Joan Riches
Chris wrote "We were in fact a sub speciality of physical therapy in the military." On a similar note The first OTs in Canada were taught in the Faculty of Applied Science (Engineering). OT here was not subsumed by medicine until after world war two and it was at that time that joint OT/PT

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2008-10-11 Thread Ron Carson
Chris, do you have a reference for the below??? Thanks, Ron - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice cac> We were in fact a subspeciality of physical therapy i

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2008-10-11 Thread Ron Carson
Instead, our primary role, and distinction is remediating occupational issues. Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice NL> Ron, NL> Your splitting hairs

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2008-10-10 Thread Cheryl Frost
Hi all, In response to the question of my area of practice, well, I'm a first year OT Master's student (I survived my first month!) in Alberta. The discussion regarding Best Practice is really interesting to me. Right now, we have a class dedicated to studying occupation itself; that is, with n

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2008-10-10 Thread Neal Luther
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:36 PM To: Neal Luther Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Neal, it seems that we look at things differently: You say: "we do higher level IADL tasks ... usually to wo

Re: [OTlist] Best Practice and OT expertise

2008-10-10 Thread Ron Carson
as a whole would benefit. Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice and OT expertise P> Ron, P> You say "I don't take ROM or muscle strength measure

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2008-10-10 Thread Pat
atrics, neuro, etc. But unlike other approaches, an OT using an occupation-based approach has one single purpose and reason for being, and that is improving occupational performance. Thanks, Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT ----- Original Message - From: Joan Riches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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2008-10-10 Thread Ron Carson
approaches, an OT using an occupation-based approach has one single purpose and reason for being, and that is improving occupational performance. Thanks, Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Joan Riches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 To: OT

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2008-10-09 Thread Joan Riches
.and if cognition cannot be remediated? Joan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: October 9, 2008 7:47 PM To: Joan Riches Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice and OT expertise Hello Joan: Thanks for writing. I

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2008-10-09 Thread Ron Carson
n that's what I would do. So again, I don't see where my approach excludes cognition. But, maybe I'm wrong! Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Joan Riches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist]

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2008-10-09 Thread Ron Carson
activity, it's RETURNING them to activity. Does any of this make sense or is it just "rubbish" Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice NL

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2008-10-09 Thread cmnahrwold
MS, OTR -Original Message- From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:40 pm Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Chris, I'm not quite sure what solutions to discuss, but here's a venture. If the concern is that some OT&#x

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2008-10-09 Thread Brent Cheyne
To Ron and the List,     Great discussion about best practice, and I agree with Chris Nahrwold's recent comments...very well put ...and Joan Riches comments as well (I am a fellow Canadian..now U.S. Citizen).     According to the current criteria, in my work geriatric clients at a SNF, I am pro

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2008-10-09 Thread Joan Riches
Hello I am very pleased to see some of the vocabulary from Enabling Occupation II 'shaping' and 'enabling' appearing in the discussion. 'Contrived' is the other side of that coin. The way we express ourselves has a huge effect on the way we are able to think. Hans Jonsson has done some really help

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2008-10-09 Thread Neal Luther
ove and discard the original.-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:13 PM To: Neal Luther Subject: Re: [OTlist] Best Practice Why? Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: Neal Luth

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2008-10-08 Thread Ron Carson
- Original Message - From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice RC> Chris, I'm not quite sure what solutions to discuss, but here's a RC> venture. RC> If the concern is that some OT

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2008-10-08 Thread Ron Carson
derful world. Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Best Practice cac> Any concrete solutions? cac> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR cac> -Original Message