ght be useful
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>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@
> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Wood
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 January 2018 5:30 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
>
>
>
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com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wood
Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018 5:30 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
Hi Tony, All,
I used to have a script on a mac to enable/disable EVERY piece of traffic on my
computers
Hi Tony, All,
I used to have a script on a mac to enable/disable EVERY piece of traffic
on my computers firewall that wasn't just chrome - I can find it if anyone
wants a copy.
So at a place like Thailand you could run it before you connected and only
chrome(or other browser) was allowed in/out.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 11:03 Tony Wright wrote:
> The telcos could have rolled out more adsl2 and get exactly the same
> result.
>
Bingo. Cost to tax payer, $0.
And there would be other market offerings by now as well if private
investment wasn't frozen out in 2009.
David.
Totally wrong, it is more disastrous than its ever been. The telcos could
have rolled out more adsl2 and get exactly the same result. And not spent
$50 billion doing it. It's a disgrace 4/5 Liberal 1/5 Labor.
On 6 Jan 2018 8:00 AM, "David Connors" wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 10:55 Tony Wright wrote:
> Yep, and refusing to acknowledge the huge disaster is turned into in the
> last 4 years.
>
It is less of a disaster now than it was; as per Greg's last mail.
For the record though, I don't think the project should have ever
Yep, and refusing to acknowledge the huge disaster is turned into in the
last 4 years.
On 6 Jan 2018 7:49 AM, "David Connors" wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 10:30 Tony Wright wrote:
>
>> I find it unsurprising that Liberal "believers" such as yourself
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 10:30 Tony Wright wrote:
> I find it unsurprising that Liberal "believers" such as yourself can't see
> how much worse a mess the Liberals have made it,
>
What exactly is it that I believe in?
I'm just telling you how the project was and is performing.
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@
> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:11 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozd
oss the country.
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>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
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Getting caught up in 5 year ago history? It was so early in the process.
I find it unsurprising that Liberal "believers" such as yourself can't see
how much worse a mess the Liberals have made it, in the past 4 years
they've been in power, how much more money has been blown because of it,
how
11 AM
*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 09:52 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure you have an answer for everything, but people in my area were
being connected.
Here, I put the data from the governanc
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 at 09:52 Tony Wright wrote:
> I'm sure you have an answer for everything, but people in my area were
> being connected.
>
Here, I put the data from the governance report into excel for you.
The column in red shows for the given period, what % of 'premises
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> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
> *Sent:* Saturday, 6 January 2018 10:32 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
>
>
>
> May as well have taken that $11 billion and made a big pile of money and
> burnt it a
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*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
May as well have taken that $11 billion and made a big pile of money and
burnt it all. What a financially incompetent move.
When
May as well have taken that $11 billion and made a big pile of money and
burnt it all. What a financially incompetent move.
When you replace your modem you don't choose the same modem or even one
that is only a touch better than what you have, you get rid of your draft n
modem and replace it with
On Fri., 5 Jan. 2018, 8:51 pm Ken Schaefer, wrote:
> Are you being deliberately obtuse? In 2011 (per you link), NBN was going
> to be fibre-to-the-premise. There was no technical need to buy any HFC or
> copper, and as you say, compensation was for destroying an existing
>
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Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Friday, 5 January 2018 3:01 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 13:52 Ken Schaefer
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
And:
3. Handing over ownership of the co
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That was the ramp up phase tho
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*Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
I think you would have been better off with the one you think wouldn't have
arrived. At least what would have been delivered was at least upgr
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> behalf of Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 5, 2018 4:21:54 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
>
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf
of Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 4:21:54 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
That was the ramp up phase though. It was always going to take some t
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 15:22 Tony Wright wrote:
> That was the ramp up phase though. It was always going to take some time
> to ramp up. Look at what the alternative gave us: a two year delay and a
> network that's not fit for purpose.
>
Ultimately the blame for why you
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-bounces@
> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Friday
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 14:45 Tony Wright wrote:
> The hilarity of Labor being better negotiators, and the libs capitulating
> and handing over money they didn't have to.
>
Oh they handed over a crap load of money. I think given the choice Telstra
would have done no deal at
The hilarity of Labor being better negotiators, and the libs capitulating
and handing over money they didn't have to.
On 5 Jan 2018 10:33 AM, "David Connors" wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 12:03 Ken Schaefer wrote:
>
>> If so, it seems very much like
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 13:52 Ken Schaefer wrote:
> And:
>
> 3. Handing over ownership of the copper and HFC where NBN wanted to use
> them.
>
In the original definitive agreement Telstra specifically held the HFC
assets for Foxtel but were prohibited from delivering
-telstra-optus-cables/
etc.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Friday, 5 January 2018 2:33 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 12:03 Ken Schaef
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 12:03 Ken Schaefer wrote:
> If so, it seems very much like compensation for the physical
> infrastructure. The Telstra and Optus could have kept their user base (and
> associated value derived from that) on the new physical platform.
>
For Telstra it
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 11:54 Tony Wright wrote:
> You run an internet business Dave so did you get compensated? Or did they
> get special treatment that you didn't get?
>
I don't run an internet business.
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> ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Friday, 5 January 2018 12:27 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
>
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 10:53 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
e: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 10:53 Tony Wright
<tonyw...@gmail.com<mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So what did they pay for?
Compensation for what was effectively a compulsory acquisition of their user
bases.
That price paid saw all of the existing HFC/CAN infrast
But they didn't take anything off them. They were simply supposed to use
new infrastructure. It sounds like the purchase of the hfc cable was to
provide the illusion that they were talking something off them.
You run an internet business Dave so did you get compensated? Or did they
get special
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 11:43 Tony Wright wrote:
> Ah, so it really was a donation. All companies were meant to compete on
> the same footing using their existing user bases on the new NBN. So Telstra
> and Optus ended up getting special treatment after all.
>
Not really.
Ah, so it really was a donation. All companies were meant to compete on the
same footing using their existing user bases on the new NBN. So Telstra and
Optus ended up getting special treatment after all.
On 5 Jan 2018 8:27 AM, "David Connors" wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 10:53 Tony Wright wrote:
> So what did they pay for?
>
Compensation for what was effectively a compulsory acquisition of their
user bases.
That price paid saw all of the existing HFC/CAN infrastructure thrown out
at $0 value. Once they opted to use
So what did they pay for?
On 5 Jan 2018 3:51 AM, "David Connors" wrote:
>
>
> On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 9:13 pm Tony Wright, wrote:
>
>> So what you're actually saying is they acquired it, handed over the
>> money, without doing any due diligence on whether
On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 9:13 pm Tony Wright, wrote:
> So what you're actually saying is they acquired it, handed over the money,
> without doing any due diligence on whether it was going to work or not.
> Sounds like a donation.
>
They didn't pay money for either the HFC or
tnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2018 10:03 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 8:34 pm Tony Wright,
<tonyw...@gmail.com<mailto:to
So what you're actually saying is they acquired it, handed over the money,
without doing any due diligence on whether it was going to work or not.
Sounds like a donation.
On 4 Jan 2018 6:03 PM, "David Connors" wrote:
> On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 8:34 pm Tony Wright,
Nope, just bantering from afar.
On 4 Jan 2018 6:03 PM, "David Connors" wrote:
> On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 8:34 pm Tony Wright, wrote:
>
>> CVC is recoverable.
>>
>
> You are correct ... It most certainly is.
>
> As for another decision impaired choice, the
On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 8:34 pm Tony Wright, wrote:
> CVC is recoverable.
>
You are correct ... It most certainly is.
As for another decision impaired choice, the purchase of two cable networks
> that are not fit for purpose, how much did that cost taxpayers?
>
The price to
CVC is recoverable. Fibre to the node is not, without spending another
$50 billion
dollars. And it will take a decade to fix the debacle created by choosing
the inferior multimix of technologies. As for another decision impaired
choice, the purchase of two cable networks that are not fit for
On Thu., 4 Jan. 2018, 5:23 pm Tony Wright, wrote:
> That's most of us. I said it was going to be this bad 4 years ago, but
> it's actually turned out worse. When I go to nbn, my speed will actually
> drop. My brothers nbn fttp is awesome but even his download speed is lower
>
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 16:28 Tony Wright wrote:
> Gosh Dave, you're not telling me you're still supportive of the hugely
> expensive backward step this nation took with the NBN are you?
>
Negative - we're talking about mobile.
NBN have completely abandoned South Brisbane -
That's most of us. I said it was going to be this bad 4 years ago, but it's
actually turned out worse. When I go to nbn, my speed will actually drop.
My brothers nbn fttp is awesome but even his download speed is lower than
my 10yo Telstra cable connection. So much for the best jobs of the future
Supportive of the NBN before it got nerfed by the LNP.
On Jan 4, 2018 16:59, "Tony Wright" wrote:
> Gosh Dave, you're not telling me you're still supportive of the hugely
> expensive backward step this nation took with the NBN are you?
>
> On 4 Jan 2018 12:05 PM, "David
Gosh Dave, you're not telling me you're still supportive of the hugely
expensive backward step this nation took with the NBN are you?
On 4 Jan 2018 12:05 PM, "David Connors" wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 14:53 Tony Wright wrote:
>
>> They claim a speed
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 14:53 Tony Wright wrote:
> They claim a speed of 2560MB whatever that means, but to get 1.6GB down in
> 1 minute is pretty impressive. Gosh, internet in Australia really really
> sucks! But nobody wants speed in Australia, right?
>
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> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Beha
From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
*On Behalf Of *David Connors
*Sent:* Thursday, 4 January 2018 10:27 AM
*To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
Don't have a friend with line of site within 20klm of you
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> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davi
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*Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 09:12 Greg Low <g...@greglow.com> wrote:
I've often seen 90M down and 45M up on my laptop on Telstra 4G LTE.
But ask me about my Optus mobile broadband last night where
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 at 09:12 Greg Low wrote:
> I've often seen 90M down and 45M up on my laptop on Telstra 4G LTE.
>
>
>
> But ask me about my Optus mobile broadband last night where I couldn't
> even get 1M down…
>
Telstra really is the only game in town for mobile broadband
Hi guys,
On holiday at the moment in Thailand, and I purchased 4GB of data on a
local mobile network for the princely sum of A$6. I managed to use the
entire amount in about 2 hours and I can't figure out how, because I was
mostly just browsing the web.
I took a look at the logs and it shows:
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