Re: MZ-S : Who will be the firts owner of the MZ-S in the pdmllist ?

2001-05-09 Thread James Apilado
I will wait to hear evaluations from those who buy one first. Then, I may sell my LX. Yes, I know it's heresy to write that. Jim A. From: Matjaz Osojnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:47:54 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S : Who will

UK horror stories

2001-05-09 Thread mike wilson
Hi, One local, one national: National - Kodachrome is no longer processed in the UK. It goes to Switzerland. Local - I was passing throught a local branch of a major retailer (looking for an MX - Pentax content) and they were undergoing a major refurbishment. False ceiling down, new displays

Re: Off camera TTL flash options?

2001-05-09 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi Rob, Recently Rob Studdert wrote: I would like to put together a remote flash connection system so that I can use up to three flashes in parallel on my LX (am maybe the MZ-S) for creative TTL flash with macro images. This is where Pentax screwed up. If you want to use an LX or a

Re: OK it's about time, Pentax repairer list compilation

2001-05-09 Thread Kristian-H. Schüssler
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 4:35 AM Subject: OK it's about time, Pentax repairer list compilation Hi Rob, I have decided that will put a page of recommended LX repairers on my web site to complement

Re: MZ-S : spot meter

2001-05-09 Thread Alin Flaider
Hi Eric, it's certainly an omission. As with center-weighted, spot meter is independent of the lens type, as it doesn't have to know what the maximum aperture is. I can confirm that spot meter works on MZ-5N even with screw mount lenses. There's absolutely no reason for Pentax to

Re: Durability of SMC Coatings

2001-05-09 Thread Alin Flaider
Gerald wrote: GC I truly think my saliva could lick the coatings off a lens. Would you try it on one of the Limited series? You know, just for the sake of the progress: next SMC generation might be ghostless, geraldproof... Servus, Alin ;o) - This message is from the

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread David A. Mann
Shel Belinkoff writes: Apart from camera(s) and lens(es), what do you take with you when out shooting for a day? What items do you usually keep in your camera bag? Basically everything I can fit. The Lowepro Nova 5 doesn't fit nearly as much junk as the Compact AW but I can usually fit

Re: Velvia questions

2001-05-09 Thread David A. Mann
William Robb writes: Personally, I don't like the stuff all that much, but that is just me. It seems to be a popular film. It's not just you :) It has its uses but is far too saturated and contrasty for my liking. It takes me ages to finish a roll of that stuff :) Cheers, - Dave David

RE: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread David A. Mann
Kevin Thornsberry writes: I like the convenience of the lenspen but have been afraid to trust it on my SMC lenses. There have been a couple of posts to this list that prove the SMC coating to be tough enough to withstand cigarette butts. I'm not going to try it myself because I don't have

a couple of comments

2001-05-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Another great month. A Pretty and Patient Bride by Casey Szocinski, USA I like it. The bride should love it. Lots of Soft Light. Wife with Fritz the Cat by Bill Gekas, Australia You didn't tell us you were married to Sigourney Weaver! * * * * * * * * * *

Re: The SMC 1000 f/8 came home to papa

2001-05-09 Thread Steve Larson
Bill D. Casselberry wrote: - Original Message - From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: The SMC 1000 f/8 came home to papa Steve Larson wrote: That wooden tripod is a beast. I`m working on sand bags to

Re: MZ-S : spot meter

2001-05-09 Thread Eric Lawton
Thanks Alin for your answer, I was pretty sure it was an error, but I couldn't ever remember anyone (or any literature) specifically stating that the spot-meter worked with pre-A series lenses. Just wanted to be sure. Thanks Again, Eric From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Alling
At 09:03 PM 5/8/2001 -0400, tom wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Apart from camera(s) and lens(es), what do you take with you when out shooting for a day? What items do you usually keep in your camera bag? I usually carry in the Domke F-803 satchel: Today I shot some lawyers. Really.

Re: The SMC 1000 f/8 came home to papa

2001-05-09 Thread Steve Larson
Hi Doug, Cool, Steve. How did you attach the lens to the fluid head? Doug Where the lens goes on the tripod, there are a couple of 1/4-20 screw holes on the bottom of the plate, which bolts to the 501 quick release plate. Does yours have the 1/4-20 screw holes? Have you used a filter

Re: OK it's about time, Pentax repairer list compilation

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Rob ... I started compiling a list of Pentax repair sources (other than Pentax). It can be found at: http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/_uimages/cam_rep.txt Feel free to use it and add to it. I didn't get much response after posting several requests, but it may be worthwhile to try

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Alling
At 01:03 AM 5/9/2001 -0400, tom wrote: Serious? You carry a pistol with your camera gear? I said SMILE, dammit... tv It would be the preferred equipment for shooting lawyers. Bob Blakely wrote: Where on earth did you get this? An old time lister (Shel Belinkoff) asked a simple

Lenspens

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd like to try one of these, however, I've not seen any in my local shops and may have to purchase by mail order. In either case, I'm curious to know if there are different brands, sizes, etc. Is there anything to look for in the way they're constructed (plastic v metal)? Thanks! -- Shel

Re: Rubber Eyecup: My stupid, costly mistake

2001-05-09 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
Believe me, Rob, I folded the rubber flange back as far as I could, with all my force, but that Ricoh eyecup has one deep flange. Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: On 8 May 2001, at 12:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So please, people: if your eyecup is removable, remove it each

Re: OK it's about time, Pentax repairer list compilation]

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Rob ... I started compiling a list of Pentax repair sources (other than Pentax). It can be found at: http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/_uimages/cam_rep.txt Feel free to use it and add to it. I didn't get much response after posting several requests, but it may be worthwhile to try

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread tom
David A. Mann wrote: Basically everything I can fit. The Lowepro Nova 5 doesn't fit nearly as much junk as the Compact AW but I can usually fit what I need. Generally I'll take: snip - A couple of mini-MM's containers for used 120 if applicable, Excellent! Guess I'll be eating some

Lenspens (Lens Pens?)

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd like to try one of these, however, I've not seen any in my local shops and may have to purchase by mail order. In either case, I'm curious to know if there are different brands, sizes, etc. Is there anything to look for in the way they're constructed (plastic v metal)? Thanks! -- Shel

Re: Lenspens (Lens Pens?)

2001-05-09 Thread tom
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'd like to try one of these, however, I've not seen any in my local shops and may have to purchase by mail order. In either case, I'm curious to know if there are different brands, sizes, etc. Is there anything to look for in the way they're constructed (plastic v

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! One was carrying a .45, the other Visa, Mastercard, etc. Hi John ... These things, and etc, are probably legitimate items for some people. Although I didn't mention it in my original list, I carry credit cards with me, although I don't consider it a

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
Hi Brent and Chris, Fear-mongering and a hoax? Well, Chris, I think the photo lab owner got it at least partly right, according to a front-page article in the Rochester (NY) Democrat Chronicle for Wed., 2 May 2001. According to the D C staff writer, it's not the film itself, but rather the

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bob Walkden wrote: Years ago somebody told me that one of the most useful things you could take when you're travelling around in remote places is a carabiner. What's a carabiner? As for Shel's question about flashlights, here are some photographic uses: in the dark you can check your

Re: Lenspens (Lens Pens?)

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Tom ... There are two shops that are local to me, and they really don't have much in the way of photo gear. I'm sure that if I went to San Francisco or to another big town my luck would be better. There's a Ritz in the next town, so I'll look there. Thanks! tom wrote: I'm almost

Re: Very OT was Velvia questions, now cheese

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Alling
With that Diet she'd have to. At 10:53 PM 5/8/2001 -0500, Treena Harp wrote: Actually, I meant litter box (We kept it in a VERY far away part of the house...). :-) I've been working for about 36 hours straight with a four-hour break for sleep, and things really aren't making sense anymore. I

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My Gawd! Is it true that we're a nation of morons and imbeciles, or is it that corporate America just thinks we are? Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Coming soon to a store near you: a new look for the little yellow box. Eastman Kodak Co. today will announce a complete packaging makeover for

Re: Lenspens

2001-05-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
I believe that the Ritz chain carries them. I know of two sizes. Little and big. I tend to use a microfiber cloth instead of the big pen, but the little pen can reach into places easier - like the eye piece. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 9, 2001 8:14 AM Subject: RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America?? Hi Brent and Chris, Fear-mongering and a hoax? much snippage It's the end

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Harris
Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: ...Kodak Bright Sun for 100 speed and Kodak Max Versatility for 400 speed. We think this will be a lot more relevant to consumers than it is to be talking about film speed Do you suppose that the Microsoft guy who developed Bob and then Clippy has moved on to

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America?? Unfortunately a little of both, or maybe a lot of both. At 07:25 AM 5/9/2001 -0700, Shel wrote: My Gawd! Is it true that we're a nation of morons and

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Alling
Unfortunately a little of both, or maybe a lot of both. At 07:25 AM 5/9/2001 -0700, Shel wrote: My Gawd! Is it true that we're a nation of morons and imbeciles, or is it that corporate America just thinks we are? Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Coming soon to a store near you: a new look for

Duplicate Messages

2001-05-09 Thread Daniel Suarez
Title: Duplicate Messages I'm new to the list, but I've noticed that I'm getting duplicate messages from some of you. Is this common with this list? C. Daniel Suarez *** Wishbone Systems, Inc. 619 Palisade Avenue Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 [EMAIL

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
Shel wrote: My Gawd! Is it true that we're a nation of morons and imbeciles, or is it that corporate America just thinks we are? Don't know if this is any indication of a trend, but I was in a local Target store the other night (buying some film, in fact), and a customer asked a store clerk

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread admin
-- Original Message -- addition to losing the prominent display of film speed, the new four-roll consumer packaging will also *not* include a picture of the four enclosed film cassettes. Apparently this is too confusing or complicated for consumers as well? The packaging will no longer

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: What Do You Carry What's a carabiner? http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/carabiners.jpg - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Lewis, Gerald
Just consider who the consumer isdubious graduates of inept schools who cannot read, count, or reason, but probably have an undeserved high self esteem. No wonder they get confused. Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth

2001-05-09 Thread Michael Nosal
More information can be found at: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pressReleases/pr20010502-02.shtml Note that Kodachrome 25 and Royal Gold 1000 are being discontinued this year. --Mike Nosal [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:25 AM 5/9/01 -0700, you wrote: My Gawd! Is it true that we're a nation of

Internation Brotherhood of PDML

2001-05-09 Thread Tiger Moses
Well, thanks to the one Face to Face meeting I have had with a fellow PDML list memeber, I may be skiping Grandfather mountian and since tomorrow I fly with a fellow local photo club memeber to the Central American country of Costa Rica. Many of you may remember the lately silent Roberto Burgos,

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
Well, I finally settled on my go-everywhere SLR/lens, and it's not an SLR, but a rangefinder, as one or two of you had suggested, only to have me brush off your suggestion. I bow in abject apology. On my belt, wherever I go, I wear a black Eagle Creek belt pouch. In the pouch, I carry a Yashica

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The packaging will no longer indicate 96 EXP, but rather the more arithmetically tractable 4 ROLLS This is a problem, as how might one know how many exposures there are per roll? Another marketing ploy to offer less for more? We're used to a standard roll being 36 exposures, a short roll at

RE: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Provencher, Paul M.
film of various types and speeds Gossen Luna Pro for incident or reflected readings Kodak Professional Photo Guide (has gray card and color card,etc) pen and pencil, pad Leader retriever Blower brush lenses, hoods, caps, cases as required

RE: Durability of SMC Coatings

2001-05-09 Thread Provencher, Paul M.
You can't be serious? If you are kidding, disregard my comments below. If you are serious, you just aren't using the right cleaning stuff. While saliva is corrosive, it should not harm even the oldest SMC coatings (unless you've been drinking acetone or something like that and even then...)

Re: Velvia questions

2001-05-09 Thread Albano_Garcia
Robert Harris wrote: Fuji knows that majority of professional photographers set their cameras at E.I. 40 when they shoot Velvia. We think this is very reasonable. At the same time, Fuji recommends that photographers try E.I. 64 when you shoot high key images where whites are very important.

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Provencher, Paul M.
Every day I would have to explain to people what speed they need, now I don't. It's too bad you feel that way - I always found it worthwhile to help people understand what they were doing and what their options were. But don't count on having less explaining to do... Paul M. Provencher (ppro)

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread jeepgirl
I have on of those to carry my keys on it so I don't lose them in the bottom of my bag. and sometimes I hook a long screwdriver (replaces the gun in hand to hand combat and is not illegal) that I hang on the outside or a ball ping hammer (same reasons) or my maglight. jeepinangel - Original

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Hi Issac ... Boy, do i disagree with you. To me, Kodak's decision makes perfect sense. Keep in mind that 95% of people don't know about film speed, and don't care. Where/how did you arrive at that figure? Was a survey made of this?

RE: Grandfather Mountain

2001-05-09 Thread admin
About a dozen have checked in on my PDML Grandfather guest book (http://robertstech.com/guestbook.mv?parm_func=view) but there are probably others. I'll be flying into NC on Thursday and staying in Winston-Salem with friends that evening. Friday we drive out to their cabin near West Jefferson,

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
William Robb wrote: I don't see new packaging as a way to end run around customer service. I suspect that there will still be a significant portion of the population that will need assurance that the product is right for their situation. Customer: I need some film. Salesperson: What

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread tom
jeepgirl wrote: If I remember correctly you are in the DC area, correct? Yep. Did you happen to shoot My sister? She is a lawyer there. You can't swing a bat around here without hitting a lawyer. I think we have the highest concentration in the world. Anyway, this job was down in

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread JDStep
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi John ... These things, and "etc", are probably legitimate items for some people.  Although I didn't mention it in my original list, I carry credit cards with me, although I don't consider it a part of my photo kit.  Many people don't carry credit cards with them unless

Re: New Pentax Owner

2001-05-09 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Donald Ross wrote: Hi Frank Maybe it's an American vs. Canadian thing. I went to a Jays game at the old CNE Stadium with my 400-600 reflex on a monopod and got some great shots without being hassled. I've never had any problems getting into a Jays game with my stuff...in fact, we went

Re: Off camera TTL flash options?

2001-05-09 Thread rob
Hi Rob, Yes I agree, trying to work out whats going on with the newer off camera flash adaptors is not particularly clear. I cabled up my LX, tested the setup then wrote the descriptions/setup Below is the best descriptions of each item required that I came up with. Descriptions are

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Luis Pinar
It depends. I always carry: Film Lens caps Lens hoods Blower-brush Polarizers Swiss Army knife And many times also: Table top tripod or small tripod Cable release Small flash (Pentax AF 160) Eyecup Lens cleaning paper Flash adapter (for off-camera flash) Not so often: Handle mount flash

Re: Camera inspections at airport security

2001-05-09 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Frank Theriault wrote: Geez, the last time I flew back from my Mom's place in Nova Scotia, I think I said something to piss of some frustrated security guard. On a high school trip to New Orleans with our school bands, the airport security people kept asking me to open the bass amp because

Re[2]: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Wednesday, May 09, 2001, 3:06:21 PM, you wrote: [...] general, as well as numerous off-topic subjects. There are different styles of posting, some serious, some humorous, but eventually you'll find the answers to all your questions. great! so, what's the meaning of life? And just

Re[2]: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, well, if you want to be digital you can count up to 1,048,575 before you run out of fingers and toes, assuming the normal mammalian complement. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my vocabulary 'art' is a dirty word - Helmut Newton Wednesday, May 09, 2001, 3:48:26 PM, you wrote:

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Isaac Crawford
Hi Issac ... Boy, do i disagree with you. To me, Kodak's decision makes perfect sense. Keep in mind that 95% of people don't know about film speed, and don't care. Where/how did you arrive at that figure? Was a survey made of this? Had you said many, most, a great percentage, or

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff snip How can subjective descriptions replace some knowledge about film speed. However, if the cameras are all dumbed down to meet the lowered and more simplistic descriptions of appropriate film, and the sales people don't know squat, and

Re[2]: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, jeepgirl wrote: I a journal to write in an ink pen to write with. A sharpie to date the roll of film, and possible describe the location, then I write that on the bag when I have the film developed. It's easier to write a serial number on the film can before you go out. As you're

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread dick graham
ZX-5n FA28-40 f/4 SMC A 70-210 f/4 F 50 f/1.7 Film( color neg and reversal) micro fiber cloth and blower brush Polarizer and warming filter with step down ring tripod and monopod pen and paper Leatherman tool Batteries Sunpack 444D flash and Stoffen Omni Bounce diffuser and off camera adapter

Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 89

2001-05-09 Thread Albano_Garcia
Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other members, thanks. Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way. Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly in

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 9 May 2001, William Robb wrote: You can lead em to the river, but you can't make them drink. If your lucky, they will fall in and drown though. William Robb *L* That's a keeper, Bill. Thanks for the story. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Martin Corro
So, Shel, you're in the other 5%... ;-) Martin -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica?? Hi Issac ...

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Stephen Moore
Bob Walkden wrote: great! so, what's the meaning of life? And just exactly why did the chicken cross the road? Forty-two Regards, Stephen Moore - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

lens questions

2001-05-09 Thread Emmanuel Ingelsten
Hi! I'm a newbie to the list and the photography. So please be graceful with that in mind and considering english is not my mothertounge. I have a MZ-3 and my questions are concerning lenses: 1 I wanna by a telezoom and I've been looking at a Pentax SMC-FA 80-320/4,5-5,6. I wonder if you

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Norman Baugher
ROTFLMAO!!! William Robb wrote: hilarious stuff snipped - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

distortion in 35-70mm M, 75-150mm M

2001-05-09 Thread Weaver
Can anyone tell me how much pincushion and barrel distortion occur with the Pentax M series 35-70mm f2.8/3.5 and 75-150 f4 zooms? Thanks very much. G. Weaver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Harris
Shel Belinkoff wrote: What/Who is Bob and Clippy? Two of the more asinine things Microsoft has tried to foist on us. Bob was an interface developed for, I think, Windows 95. Your screen was set up as Bob's house and you went to different rooms to do different things. Childish, dippy and dumb

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of N orthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Lewis, Gerald
Dealing with the great unwashed is always interesting and informative. Unfortunately, this gal will take the cheap film and tell everone within shouting distance how you tried to sell her up to the more expensive stuff AND then blame you for selling her stuff so that her pics did not come out

Re: Velvia questions

2001-05-09 Thread Gerald F. Cermak
Slide film has a non-linear density curve vs. exposure, as compared to print film (which has other density curve issues regarding scanning, but is fairly linear). Slide film's greatest slope in the exposure/density curve occurs in the middle of it's exposure latitude. This results in densities

Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread Isaac Crawford
It's no secret that photography is dominated by point and shoots and disposable cameras. The people who bought these have bought into the whole easy use marketing scheme. There is of course the more advanced users that buy more advanced cameras, but they (we) are in the minority. Why is

OT: What Kodak does... was: Nasty Kodak rumor

2001-05-09 Thread Mark Dalal
In response to Isaac, Shel wrote: Every day I would have to explain to people what speed they need, now I don't. I think that the packaging is a good idea for this market segment. Yes, if the market segment is the one that caters to the lowest common denominator and, perhaps, to sales people

Re: Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread Norman Baugher
I don't think Isaac, that it's necessarily the dumbing down of photographers that everyone is bemoaning, it's more the dumbing down of people in general. By playing to the, as Shel would say, lowest common denominator, the consumer has been trained not even to ask question. What does ISO mean?

RE: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Provencher, Paul M.
I used to work in a family owned (not mine unfortunately) now-defunct camera store in Providence, RI (United Camera - ever hear of it?). A guy comes in to the store. He has a 700- or 800-series Polaroid camera. He is complaining of a problem with the pictures. There were big giant shadows

Re[2]: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Dorothy Parker was once challenged to think of a memorable sentence involving the word 'horticulture'. She came up with you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think :o) --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my vocabulary 'art' is a dirty word - Helmut Newton Wednesday, May

Re[2]: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of North America??

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Both based on the premise that the typical computer user is a complete idiot. that seems like a reasonable assumption when you consider that one of the best-selling series of books is called The complete idiot's guide to... --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In my vocabulary 'art' is

Re: Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread Dan Scott
And, this is probably a case of pre-emptive marketing. One thing digital point and shoots have over their film counterparts is you don't have to keep replacing the film. Kodak probably wants to make the process as simple as possible so they can make their film as competitive with digital (for

Re: distortion in 35-70mm M, 75-150mm M

2001-05-09 Thread LEDMRVM
In a message dated 5/9/2001 3:24:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me how much pincushion and barrel distortion occur with the Pentax M series 35-70mm f2.8/3.5 and 75-150 f4 zooms? Thanks very much. G. Weaver None discernible to me in

Re[2]: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Dan Scott
What a great idea! Tell me more, please. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob wrote: Hi, jeepgirl wrote: I a journal to write in an ink pen to write with. A sharpie to date the roll of film, and possible describe the location, then I write that on the bag when I have the film developed.

Re: Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread John Francis
Norman Baugher wrote: I don't think Isaac, that it's necessarily the dumbing down of photographers that everyone is bemoaning, it's more the dumbing down of people in general. I'm not convinced. Photography (like using a computer) used to be a skilled profession. Nowadays both are

Re: lens questions

2001-05-09 Thread Jon Hope
At 22:09 9/05/01 +0200, you wrote: I have a MZ-3 and my questions are concerning lenses: 1 I wanna by a telezoom and I've been looking at a Pentax SMC-FA 80-320/4,5-5,6. I wonder if you have any comments on that lens? I don't have alot of money so more expensive lenses are not to think about.

RE: Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread Provencher, Paul M.
In one sense I suppose the dumbing down is good for those who are not dumb. If one really wants quality images in difficult (read impossible to accomplish with a PS) situations, I suppose they will have to contract the services of a professional, or at least someone who knows how to use a camera

Re: Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bingo! Norman Baugher wrote: I don't think Isaac, that it's necessarily the dumbing down of photographers that everyone is bemoaning, it's more the dumbing down of people in general. By playing to the, as Shel would say, lowest common denominator, the consumer has been trained not

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Todd Stanley
All I can say is some people carry a lot! When I go out usually carry just one body, 1-3 lenses, one on the camera and the others in my pockets or a small case, an extra roll of film or two, and a few filters. If you count what is usually in my pockets, there is some money, a keychain light, a

Re: Nasty Kodak rumor, or the sloppy truth: the dumbing down of NorthAmerica??

2001-05-09 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must moonlight as a Ritz Camera salesperson. I had the opposite problem when buying film recently at Ritz: a salesman second-guessing my informed choice: Me: Do you have any of the new Fujicolor 1600, the version that uses the fourh color layer?

Super Program LCD display question

2001-05-09 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
In all three of my Super Programs, the viewfinder often shows a different shutter speed than the LCD on the top panel. The difference is usually just one f/stop, but it's unsettling. Which readout should I trust? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: Super Program LCD display question

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul wrote: In all three of my Super Programs, the viewfinder often shows a different shutter speed than the LCD on the top panel. The difference is usually just one f/stop, but it's unsettling. Which readout should I trust? Neither until you've metered the scenes with hand held meters

Re[3]: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Tell me more, please. I don't really think there is much more. If I'm going away for a few weeks I print a whole lot of individually numbered labels and stick them on the film cans. Whenever I load a new roll of film into the camera I write the film number on a new page of my notebook.

Re: Market segments (was Kodak dumbing down...)

2001-05-09 Thread tom
Jeez, I can't believe what snobs you guys are! Most people don't share our geeky predilection for obscure emulsions, expensive glass, or pleasant bokeh. They just want to take some pictures and not have to take time out of their lives to figure out one more thing. Isn't life complicated enough

Re: E6 Processing Goo-gob

2001-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 9, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: E6 Processing Goo-gob I recently received some 35mm E6 back. The last several slides had what looked like drips of clear fluid on them (it was no longer

E6 Processing Goo-gob

2001-05-09 Thread aimcompute
I recently received some 35mm E6 back. The last several slides had what looked like drips of clear fluid on them (it was no longer wet). It appeared to run across the transparency from left to right. It looked slightly like a bubble with a raised appearance. I haven't touched it. What is

Re: Telephoto Lens

2001-05-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Jim, I've had this lens for several years and am very pleased with it. I know it doesn't have a tripod collar, but I've gotten along ok without it. I use it with a 1.4XS convertor and like those images as well. With the 1.4XS attached, you lose autofocus. One thing you won't immediately

OT: Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 9 May 2001 12:43:04 -0500, jeepgirl wrote: [...] screwdriver (replaces the gun in hand to hand combat and is not illegal) Just for reference, I _never_ carry illegally. I'm licensed by my home state (Georgia) to carry a concealed firearm. I'm undergoing the background check for

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Harry Baughman
in the bag i got all i need to keep the lenses and bodies clean. i think everybody has a swiss army knife. my son got me the one called swiss champ. i carry more film then i know i will shoot, all my filters , 4 lenses , 2 pz1p bodies . this july when the good guys car is in town all i

Re: E6 Processing Goo-gob

2001-05-09 Thread aimcompute
Thanks Bill, Do you think it's some chemical used in processing and they were just sloppy? I also noticed fingerprints that day as well. This is the same lab that I have gotten scratched slides back from... the second time it was near the end of the roll instead of the beginning. They are the

Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 9 May 2001 19:10:27 -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote: Shel, may I suggest a headlamp instead of the flashlight. It will leave you with both hands free. You can find them in most backpacking stores. I have one made by princeton Tec that I highly recommend. You can also get a headband which

Re: Camera inspections at airport security

2001-05-09 Thread PAUL STENQUIST
I frequently travel through airports with a lead bag full of film. I leave the lead bag in my carry on, and, of course, it shows up on the x-ray as an impenetrable object. More than once, security guards have failed to check it. Of course they almost always make me switch on my laptop. Forget the

Re: Super Program LCD display question

2001-05-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you put your eye to the viewfinder, you cut off extra, stray light from coming in thru that opening and the meter reading changes. I've never had any problem trusting what the viewfinder readout says. That's a good point, Bob. I guess I've been using the

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