Re: Digital SLR (wasPentax 6x7II/Digital Back)

2001-12-27 Thread Max McRae
Pål wrote: I believe the digital slr market is in some kind of limbo presently; not really taking off and doubts about when it actually does. I suspect Pentax have a wait and see philosphy but are ready to act on short notice. Well I just hope Pentax make up their mind about the MZd very soon. I

Re: Med Format Quandry - Cool 67 Idea!

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Without any MF experience, only looking, reading, and thinking... go with your gut. The 6x7 is bigger than a 6x6 frame, allows you to crop to a 6x6 if you want, and you have TONS of anecdotal evidence on lens quality. Well, no doubt similar claims are made on the Hass. The Pentax 67 in all it's

Re[2]: Aperature Ring On MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Artur, If slight movement of the viewfinder would cause the meter to read differently, then you are relying too much on the automation of the camera. Generally, I meter pointing where I want, in center weighted or spot and then lock. So moving around a bit won't have any effect. Remember that y

Re: Medium Format Quandary

2001-12-27 Thread Bob Keefer
Shel: I've used a Mamiya TLR (C3) for four years; first got it for studio portraiture, at which it excels, and have lately been using it more and more for candid portraits, landscape and even street photos. I've got the 135/4.5 and 65/3.5 lenses, with shades. The only other goodies I've bought fo

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Furthermore... I lived in Seattle when I was researching my next camera to buy. I was NOT a die-hard Pentax person, even though Pentax was the only 35mm equipment I owned. I looked at what was for sale. I took into consideration how I was treated by salespeople and what they tried to sell. I

Re: Aperature Ring On MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread RDJ92807
Bruce, I'm a bit confused on your point. My understanding is that if you adjust the shutter speed using the MZ-S dial, you will of course alter the corresponding f-stop. But the problem is that the shutter speed is fixed, and any slight movement of the viewfinder could cause a change in the f

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread Rfsindg
Bill, Same problem here...awkward! Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << One thing I didn't like about the PZ-1 and it's ilk is the shoe placement. Great idea, but the shoe is on the wrong side. Or am I the odd duck for liking the shutter button on the bottom for verticals? >> - This message is

Re: Two Sigma Zooms

2001-12-27 Thread Alan Chan
>I've been thinking of extending my lenses to include a 100-300 zoom. One >weakness of these seems to be softness at 300 mm. Sigma has a couple of >lenses that I find interesting: > >1. 100-300 f4. It's a constant aperture f4 and was reviewed well by Pop >Photo, but is big, heavy, and expensive. I

Re: Very OT: Edith Keiler must die.

2001-12-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "aimcompute" Subject: Re: Very OT: Edith Keiler must die. > Darn it. Joe was going to watch it. Now you ruined it! I didn't say when she died William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.n

Re: Very OT: Edith Keiler must die.

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Darn it. Joe was going to watch it. Now you ruined it! Tom C. - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Very OT: Edith Keiler must die. > - Original Message - > From: "Joseph Taint

Re: Stuck Program Plus

2001-12-27 Thread Juan J. Buhler
Um, er, never mind everybody. With the excitement, I forgot I had my to MXen with me here. I tried new batteries, and the camera became alive! At first I was confused with the shutter being at 1/1000s for the first three shots, then I remembered about that. It's all working now! However, the shu

Re: Two (or three) Sigma Zooms

2001-12-27 Thread wendy beard
At 22:13 27-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: >From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Two Sigma Zooms > >I've been thinking of extending my lenses to include a 100-300 zoom. One >weakness of these seems to be softness at 300 mm. Sigma has a couple of >lenses that I find interesting: > >1. 100-

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Must have been to Glazers then I take it? Tom C. - Original Message - From: "harald_nancy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net > I find the discussion PZ1p vs. MZ-S quite interesting. > Now

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread wendy beard
At 22:13 27-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: >One thing I didn't like about the PZ-1 and it's ilk is the shoe >placement. Great idea, but the shoe is on the wrong side. >Or am I the odd duck for liking the shutter button on the bottom >for verticals? >William Robb Not at all. That's the way I turn the c

Stuck Program Plus

2001-12-27 Thread Juan J. Buhler
Hi everybody, and happy holidays. My $65 ebay special Program Plus arrived today, with its A50/1.4 (the reason I got the thing) and a detached rewing lever, besides a cheapo Vivitar 2600D flash. Reattaching the rewind lever was easy, I just pulled the pin up a bit and carefully screwed it back o

Re: Spiffs

2001-12-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Dec 2001 at 19:55, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > That's cheating ;-). If dye subs, which were far better than inkjets to > start, have improved as much as inkjets the prints must be spectacular. I understand that dye sublimation prints generally have a more compressed colour gamut and lower c

Re: Yellow be GONE!

2001-12-27 Thread William Robb
80A filter. Shoot negative film. William Robb - Original Message - From: "C or B Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:08 PM Subject: Yellow be GONE! > Please forgive this novice question: > Sometimes I wish to take available light pictur

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Jody, I think you will always be able to find film and paper for your cameras. And if you choose to paint with oils, you can buy paint and canvas. In other words, the new technology won't replace the old. But the old way of doing things may become more of an art form and less of a commercial me

Re: Med Format Quandry

2001-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Shel, I'l intersperse the answers. > > > The big downside of a > > TLR is the faulty parallax: > > Macro is of no concern, and I'd think that parallax errors would be an > issue depending on how close one is to the subject. I'd imagine - and > please correct me - that for a typical H&S portra

Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread wendy beard
At 14:10 27-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: >Subject: RE: I love the PZ-1p > >Gee maybe that's why Canon and Minolta designed their AF lines like that >from the start. >Kent Gittings > >- -Original Message- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute >Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Jody L. Reese
Hallo! - loved your message but I am sorry to report that I am fresh out of Sherpas! Lost the last one up a local canyon!!! Actually, I hate to admit it but I carry 2 6x7 bodies with me when I am out in the mountains. I shoot chromes in one and neg film in the other. Anyway, I am working on a ho

Re: Med Format Quandry

2001-12-27 Thread Jody L. Reese
Hello from Utah! I have been shooting with the 6x7 since the 70's and really enjoy it. I hate square format so that cuts out a few. Mamiya is ok but heaver and more expensive (I shot RB67 as an industrial photographer for Thiokol Inc.). No experience with the others. I would still go for the P

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Jody L. Reese
Hi Paul - I was quite interested in your comments about the studios in Detroit. I also shoot large format (4x5) but with the cost of a digital back for my Cambo I would have to take a second mortgage out if you know what I mean! Anyway, being interested in digital I purchased a Nikon 990 to see

Re: Med Format Quandry

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul ... comments interspersed > I've shot with TLR cameras for many yearss, > both Rollei and Mamiya. The big downside of a > TLR is the faulty parallax: What you see ain't > what you get. This becomes particularly > problematic for portraits or anything tighter. > Macro is nigh well impo

Re: A very Merry (hot!) Christmas

2001-12-27 Thread Len Paris
What? You mean 40 degrees C is not twice as hot as 20 degrees C? 40 degrees F is twice as hot as 20 degrees F. I mean, heck, C degrees are all the same size, so if you have twice as many of them, they must be twice as hot. :-) Which is true. The only fallacy was in me comparing them in a linea

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Wheatfield Willie wrote: > Or am I the odd duck for liking the shutter button > on the bottom for verticals? Not at all! - it's the *only!* *sensible!* *placement!* ( ... especially w/ the MEII Winder on a SuperProgram ;^) Bill --

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Shel wrote: > The 28mm and 35mm hoods are of different designs, with the 28mm fitting > around the outside of the lens barrel and being secured with a clutch > while the 35mm screws into the front element threads. Which way does > the 24mm hood attach? Ooops, forgot that I use my 28mm

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Jody L. Reese
Hi William - thanks for the reply. You got the cold part right, it was reported that in a couple of spots here in the valley last night it got down to a -22! Can you imagine what it must have been up Logan Canyon!!! Anyway, thanks again. Say if you ever decide to move out of 35mm you would find

Re: Yellow be GONE!

2001-12-27 Thread JeffW.
on 12/27/01 9:08 PM, C or B Waters at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please forgive this novice question: > Sometimes I wish to take available light pictures in my house. The living > room walls are Yellow and we have regular light bulbs. Mostly this gives me > a pronounced Yellow tint to the color

RE: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain

2001-12-27 Thread Ed Mathews
Hey, I feel like Shel probably does here, just sitting back and enjoying this PZ1P vs. MZ-S feud, and wondering why anyone would take the time and effort to try and convince someone else that one is better than the other. But, in an effort to be social, I'll quip in here about this aperture thing

Re: Yellow be GONE!

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Shoot B&W ... or use a color correction filters. I'm not much of a color shooter, but try a blue filter - an 81B or C and see what the results are. C or B Waters wrote: > > Please forgive this novice question: > Sometimes I wish to take available light pictures in my house. The living > room w

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Len Paris
It says the same thing for me. I am not authorized to browse that URL. Perhaps you need to send the UNIX command that makes it open to others. Len --- - Original Message - From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:48 PM S

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm not sure the digital SLR is in limbo. I think it's gaining more acceptance with the working pros every day. And the manufacturers will have to meet that demand. There are about a dozen major studios in the Detroit area that shoot large format. These are the really big studios, the ten to fi

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Rfsindg
Len, I'm not on a fast connection at home either ~ 51K and I don't like downloading 400K files. But the other thing you have to remember with Shel is his love of older, manual equipment. I've heard his phone/modem connection is just one step above a tin can and a string. Regards, Bob S.

Re: Re[2]: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread Len Paris
True. I usually pre-focus, when I have time, on everything I shoot. Otherwise, I use servo (continuous) focus with focus priority set, to hold down on the number of out of focus duds. :-) Len --- > Len, > > Many times the lag is actually caused by autofocus. Most p&s users > don't attempt to

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The message I received is as follows: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~bcasselb/web_1/texts/ on this server. What's the thread diameter for the ST 24/3.5? That's just about the only Tak hood that I don't have. Is it built the same way as the Bow-Wow hood, with two pieces, or mo

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread John Mustarde
I may make a joke, or even have a heated disagreement with Pal on this list, but let me state publically that I don't ever intend to ridicule Pal or take his opinions lightly. I hate to see any of these threads about the PZ1p fall into bashing of any person or their opinion, especially someone wh

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, I have an older machine and a slow modem connection. Further, although my email program is set to limit the size of messages it receives, sooner or later I have to download the file. Not knowing the size of it until under way is a PITA. If I choose not to download it, it sits on my server

Re: Spiffs

2001-12-27 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
That's cheating ;-). If dye subs, which were far better than inkjets to start, have improved as much as inkjets the prints must be spectacular. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, Dec

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Jody, Welcome to the group. If you've been lurking very long, you've seen that this is a colorful group. There's a handful of us who also use 4x5. I'm a beginner with it, but have a couple of LF shots out on PhotoCritique.net and my home page, http://members.iol21.com/dpconsult. Do you have a

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Shel wrote: > I "don't have permission" to access that url. this one? http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb/web_1/texts I can't imagine why not > Is the hood the correct hood for the 24/3.5 ST? It looks like the hood > from the 20mm/bow-wow. Yep. Also have the 2

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread John Mustarde
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:11:18 +0100, you wrote: >I've used the Z-1p for six years almost every day and it never became intuitive in >use. I'm imagining a photographer in an open boat, gaunt from being out to sea on a six-year cruise, 600/4 in one hand, PZ1p manual in the other, one eye to the v

Re[2]: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Len, Many times the lag is actually caused by autofocus. Most p&s users don't attempt to prefocus. Just at the moment they want to capture, they press the shutter all the way down, causing it to first autofocus and then finally fire. Some p&s cameras have focus lock. Press shutter halfway dow

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Len Paris
400K is miniscule. Had no problem with it. But I'm on a cable connection. Even at speeds as low as 9600 bps, 400K is not a serious imposition. Other tasks can be carried out during the download. Like reading your other mail or surfing the web. Of course, surfing the web would be a real pain

Re: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread Len Paris
I don't think I could explain this in technical terms except that there must have been a significant lag between the time the shutter button was pressed and the actual exposure. I guess the pre-flash must have taken too much time or the battery in her camera was kind of low and the lag was caused

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread William Johnson
Hey, welcome to the list! I think that makes two of us in Utah now. I wish I had some medium format gear, but finances constrain me to 35 mm. Logan is sure beautiful (but coldb) I need to make my way up there more often. William in (Salt Lake City) Utah "Jody L. Reese" wrote: > > Hi

Re: Consult the PZ-1p manual once and you're done

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Mark, Not having used an MZ-S. I can say I was at first confused by all the pf's on the PZ-1p. One day though I was spinning the dials and realized I could tell what they all were just fine. It was amazing to realize that I had been making it hard in my mind when the camera was already showing

Re: PZ-1p review

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Oh :-). Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: PZ-1p review > Tom wrote: > > > Do you realize your posts are full of back-handed insults? > > No. > > > > "All function on the MZ

Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Sure. I can use both satisfactorially. I do see advantages to having aperture control on the body. When I get a 67II, I'll forgo it though. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Raimo Korhonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:38 PM Subject

Re: Spiffs

2001-12-27 Thread Cotty
Thanks Tom, completely understood. I think the jist of your original remark was obvious enough for even my poor depleted resources to catch! Cheers, Cotty (who will sneak in a Dye Sub print to next year's Print Challenge!) ___ Personal email

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I "don't have permission" to access that url. Is the hood the correct hood for the 24/3.5 ST? It looks like the hood from the 20mm/bow-wow. "Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > I agree, those old ones are the cat's meow. That shot is the > 24mm f3.5 SuperTak on a SPII - most likely t

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Len Paris
Yes, I understood what you were saying. But, you must remember, that anything you see on your screen was downloaded to your computer either by a web browser, an FTP client, or as an attachment to an e-mail. No matter how it gets there, it must be downloaded. If you look in your web browser cach

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Shel wrote: > That's a great hood - and somewhat hard to find these days. Some of > those old, all metal, Takumar hoods are a real work of art, and rather > complicated and expensive to produce, too. > > http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb/web_1/texts/24mm.jpg I agree, those ol

Re: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain

2001-12-27 Thread Alan Chan
The SMC PENTAX-A 50/1.7 is one of the worst built Pentax lens and the 'A' setting mechanism is better on many other Pentax lenses. regards, Alan Chan >Having to use the aperture ring bothers ME because I find that, if anything >can be objected to in Pentax lens construction for SOME of their le

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Paul wrote: > Welcome to the list Jody. I'm a long time Pentax user, but a very recent convert > to 6x7. I haven't heard any talk of a digital back for the 67II, but I suspect > that it will come. If Pentax hopes to continue to compete in the medium format > pro market, they'll have to have one i

Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Good point Bob! ;-) Tom C. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: Re: I love the PZ-1p > We ought to marvel at the genius of the Pentax design and marketing folks. > They have a new camera on the market

Re: Hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bill ... That's a great hood - and somewhat hard to find these days. Some of those old, all metal, Takumar hoods are a real work of art, and rather complicated and expensive to produce, too. "Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > Well, here's a shot of the predecessor to what you are >

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I received your email with the large attachment. Please don't send large attachments through the mail. In my case the screw up the computer because of their excessive download time. Plus, it's considered poor form to to something like that. A 400K email attachment is unacceptable, especially w

Re: Odp: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Artur Ledóchowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- Original Message - >From: Lindamood, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain > > >> Many people simply don't like the >> plastic A-rings. Also, the A-set button on one of my lenses broke > >Indeed. The apertur

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Bmacrae
In a message dated 12/27/2001 2:55:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Actually, in order for a person to view any picture on his own > computer, he has to download them. There's no other way to get > the image there. > > Huh? No...I was speaking of posting them to a site

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Bmacrae
Thanks Cotty! This particular hood won't go on reversed as the clips are reversed as well so it won't work... It's not a link problem...it's a problem with me posting pix to a private group page on AOL instead of one accessable to anyone (ok, so I'm a dope). I thought anyone could access this

RE: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A few weeks ago, my family was at a Hanukkah party. As a line of children bent below a bar in a limbo contest, my wife and I stood ready to photograph our 11-year-old daughter. My wife used her Olympus Stylus Epic, with the preflash on (by default); I used a Pentax Super Program, 800-speed film

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Jody L. Reese
Thanks for the message Paul. I have tried asking Pentax the same question as as yet I have not heard back from them and now I guess they (customer service) are all on vacation until after New Years! I'll let you know what they have to say - that is when they get around to it This week I ho

Re: New hood for Pentax-A* 85mm f1.4

2001-12-27 Thread Bmacrae
forget it len...I'll send you a pic via email off-list... Brendan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Jody L. Reese
Hi Bruce, Good to hear from a - neighbor?!! Be happy that your in Sacramento (my wife was born there) right now - last night the temp dropped down to -22 in parts of the valley! As for the new 67II, Pentax fixed a number of design problems (like the shutter release button - weak design) that the

RE: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread Paris, Leonard
Red eye reduction systems work with a pre flash and I guess that is why they are so successful. Subject blinks, eyes are closed for main flash. Voila! No red eye. ;-) Len --- -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:05 PM T

Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)

2001-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Dan Scott wrote: > How are they turning out? Still happy? > You bet. I'm very pleased with the 6x7 format and the 150/2.8. The camera is a joy, and the lens seems quite sharp with great color rendition. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.p

Re: Pentax 6x7II/Digital Back

2001-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Welcome to the list Jody. I'm a long time Pentax user, but a very recent convert to 6x7. I haven't heard any talk of a digital back for the 67II, but I suspect that it will come. If Pentax hopes to continue to compete in the medium format pro market, they'll have to have one in the near future. We

Re: PZ-1p review

2001-12-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Kent wrote: > Actually failure in the marketplace is relative. Minolta can sell every > Maxxum 7 they can build. They just can't meet demand and they are also still > on the losing side of the dollar equation when you factor in R&D and > marketing costs. Not according to the Finacial times. I b

Re: Speaking of films transport speed, was Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Bill wrote: > What happened to make film transport speed so important? Didn't sports > photogs learn how to use their equipment and get great shots in the days > before high speed motordrives? When I was shooting for our college yearbook > back in 1962-63, I used a rangefinder 35 and a Speed G

Re[2]: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Robert, Not quite the same. Pal did use it for six years. You only tried a rangefinder. I did use and loved 2 PZ-1p's for several years. Against other models in the Pentax line I would defend it as you have. However, I have and use 2 MZ-S's now and have found it to be on equal footing in many

Re: Re[2]: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I used the self timer mostly once a year at Christmas >time to catch the whole family. I use the mirror lock up quite often. >As Pål said, if you constantly switch between >the two then the PZ-1p way is better, but if you mostly don't switch, >the MZ-S w

Re: Aperature Ring On MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread Bill Owens
> As I mentioned earlier, I strongly agree that not having aperature contron on > the body is a big problem witht the MZ-S. The problem is very > simple..setting the aperture ring on f8 DOES NOT MEAN you will get f8 if > you are using most zoom lenses that are not a straigth f4 or f2.8, for >

Re: Vs: PZ-1p vs. MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
It's from an old episode of Star Trek, "City on the Edge of Forever", where Kirk, Spock, & McCoy go back to 1930. In the episode, history is unfortunately changed because McCoy saves the life of a social worker, Edith Keiler, who then starts a pacifist movement, allowing Hitler to win WWII. S

Speaking of films transport speed, was Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Bill Owens
What happened to make film transport speed so important? Didn't sports photogs learn how to use their equipment and get great shots in the days before high speed motordrives? When I was shooting for our college yearbook back in 1962-63, I used a rangefinder 35 and a Speed Graphic, and with a lit

Re[2]: Aperature Ring On MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
RDJ92807, Don't you find in general that variable aperture zooms are maddening for precise control. When I want precise control, I am using primes. You do present an interesting argument - should high end bodies cater to low to mid level lenses or is it a non-issue? Bruce Dayton Thursday,

Vs: PZ-1p review

2001-12-27 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Well - that´s how it was and is. The PZ-1 and PZ-1p were not so good sellers that Pentax decided to try another approach. PZ-1p owners like it and it is a good camera. No spitting here but how many new PZ-1p type cameras Pentax would have been able to sell to current PZ-1p owners? On the other

Vs: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Raimo Korhonen
You can do that with MZ-S - if you have not used PZ-1p too much. For us who have used manual cameras - remember those? - it´s perfectly natural. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: aimcompute

Re: Aperature Ring On MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread RDJ92807
As I mentioned earlier, I strongly agree that not having aperature contron on the body is a big problem witht the MZ-S. The problem is very simple..setting the aperture ring on f8 DOES NOT MEAN you will get f8 if you are using most zoom lenses that are not a straigth f4 or f2.8, for examp

RE: DPI vs. PPI

2001-12-27 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:24:41 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: > [...] colour film scanners usually utilize a 3 linear arrays each > with a primary colour filtration [...] the sensor in a camera (not > the tethered studio back type) has the three colour filters over > adjacent pixels in a 4 pixel grid

Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Pål Jensen
This is the core of the argument. Preferences and facts are different things. I'm not denying that the Z-1p gives more features for the money. Also do I except that some prefer it to the MZ-S. Apart from a slightly slower max shutterspeed and slower film transport, the fact is that the MZ-S has

Re: Filter Factors Page Updated

2001-12-27 Thread David Brooks
Thanks Shel.I personally don't use filters very often but one never knows, does one. Consider it bookmarked. Score another one for the great people on the PDML Dave Brooks Begin Original Message From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 07:56:16 -0800 To: Pentax L

PZ-1p vs. MZ-S

2001-12-27 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I only hope sometime to even hold the MZ-S. But with reference to the UI, I must agree with Pal. The grip shape is tiring. The LCD is confusing. Like a Nikon N60/N70. Came out of the "techno" era where people seemed, for a while, to want incomprehensible gibberish as a symbol of some sort of gee

Re: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread Bill Owens
> Michael, > > I believe this is a person by person problem. If you encounter > someone that keeps blinking, you can always turn off P-TTL and just > use TTL the old way. My wife blinks even on regular flash. > > > Bruce Dayton I don't think you can turn off PTTL with the MZ-S. Bill, KG4LOV

Re[2]: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Tom has hit the nail on the head here. We do become accustomed to a particular way of doing things and then that seems right. Before using the PZ-1p, I was using a SuperProgram. In learning the PZ-1p, I had to change my ways and habits a bit. I eventually became accustomed to it and found it e

Re: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain

2001-12-27 Thread Pat White
You said: "Who wants the cable release in the right hand?". Nearly everybody. The shutter release is on the right, so why would you want to use the cable release with your left hand? When I have the camera on a tripod and move away to take the picture, I always move to the left, and my right h

Spiffs

2001-12-27 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Spiffs: cash, toys, discounts, tee-shirts, bonuses, whatever. Probably derived from "spiffy things". It is similar to but not the same as perks (perquisites). Perks go with the job, spiffs are extras. Most of the distributors give something out. Some retailer don't allow their employees to accep

Re: Problem with Preflash

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Michael, I believe this is a person by person problem. If you encounter someone that keeps blinking, you can always turn off P-TTL and just use TTL the old way. My wife blinks even on regular flash. Bruce Dayton Thursday, December 27, 2001, 8:21:41 AM, you wrote: MP> I have commented befo

Re[2]: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pål, Amen to that. I used the self timer mostly once a year at Christmas time to catch the whole family. I use the mirror lock up quite often. I found it clumsier to set on the PZ-1p, because I had to go through the menus *every* time. As Pål said, if you constantly switch between the two then

Re: Odp: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Bruce Dayton
Artur, I'm quite surprised that you feel that aperture control on the lens is a step backward. I used PZ-1p's for quite a while and used to own 2 of them. I am not faulting the cameras at all, as I rather liked them. But in using the MZ-S's I don't find using the aperture ring a backward step.

RE: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Kent Gittings
Gee maybe that's why Canon and Minolta designed their AF lines like that from the start. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I love the PZ-1

85mm trade (my 85/2M for your SMC 85/1.8 M42)?

2001-12-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a Pentax 85/2K lens that I'd like to trade for someone's SMC 85/1.8 in screwmount. Each lens seems to sell in the same price band ($225 to $350). The 85 is a great outdoor and flash lens. But most of my need for an 85 is indoors, by available light, where the 1.8 has the edge in sharpnes

Re: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
"Lindamood, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Having to use the aperture ring bothers ME because I find that, if anything >can be objected to in Pentax lens construction for SOME of their lenses, >it's the feel of the A-ring click stops. Many people simply don't like the >plastic A-rings. Also,

Re: PZ-1p review

2001-12-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Tom wrote: > Do you realize your posts are full of back-handed insults? No. > "All function on the MZ-S is clearly market and totally intuitive for anyone > who can read." Which is a fact. No person have so far claimed that he don't undersatnd where the meter switch or drive mode switch i

Re: Lens & Flash Queries

2001-12-27 Thread Cotty
>Dave, it really is a good little flash, especially with Cotty`s modification >(which I`m going to do one of these days). >Cotty, I dare you to try the AF400T ;) >Steve Larson Ooooh Now that *would* be a great machine! Cotty ___ Person

Re: Lens & Flash Queries

2001-12-27 Thread Cotty
CORRECT URL version (sorry): >Seems $100.00 USd is about right.I think i can get them down $20.00 >or so.The last set of used equipment i bought at Merkle camera was >"dealable". >Cotty i knew you had purchased one lately,just could'nt remember >costs.Is it truly as good as claimed?? Hi Dave,

Re: I love the PZ-1p

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark wrote: > >> easier to switch >> from 2-second mirror lock-up self-timer to standard 10-second self-timer (no >> need to go through Pentax Functions to do so); > >That depends. We, no it doesn't, actually; that statement stands as true without dependi

Re: Consult the PZ-1p manual once and you're done

2001-12-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Mark wrote: > The objection to having to repeatedly refer to a camera manual seems poorly > thought out. You consult the manual once for each of the simple operations > Paal cites, and you're done for life if you have any memory cells in your > brain at all. The same thing applies absolutely e

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread aimcompute
Pal wrote: > > It sounds like you didn't really use it enough. > > You're right. To have to use it a lot or read the manual on a daily basis. Not so with the MZ-S. Well then don't blame the camera. > > The reason I wanted it on the front is because the back wheel is located where the shutterspe

Re: My Review of PZ-1p for Photo.Net

2001-12-27 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:48:03 -0700, aimcompute wrote: >I swear to God, if they had, you would complain that the aperture dial was >not on the back. Yeah, well some folks would complain if you hung them with a new rope :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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