film *ist

2003-03-03 Thread Levente -Levi- Littvay
Does anyone have the specs for the film *ist? (or a link) I assume (from the $319 list price) it is a lower end camera compeeting more with the MZ/ZX-10, 30, 50, 60 then the 7, 6, 5(n), 3. Am I correct? L

Re: Photoshop craftsmanship, WAS: Soft Lenses

2003-03-03 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Sunday, March 2, 2003, 11:34:28 PM, you wrote: > On 2 Mar 2003 at 10:18, William Robb wrote: >> Some thoughts (mine only) on craftsmanship though. A craftsman can >> produce something from raw material with skill and little waste. In the >> woodshop, that means not making bad cuts that cause

Re: film *ist

2003-03-03 Thread Bruce Dayton
Levente, Here are the specs: http://www.pentax.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=149 >From reading it, it sounds closer to the ZX-5n except for the prism. But the price is closer to the lower end. Somewhat hard to tell whether this one model stretches from bottom to mid or if they will introduce

Re: Uh-oh: Looks like I'm officially an artist now

2003-03-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! MR> P.S. Now that I'm an "artist" do I have to wear one of those damned MR> berets? Congratulations... Well, indeed you'd have to. That's the price of being an artist . --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625

Pentax digital future

2003-03-03 Thread Roland Mabo
Hello folks, Well it's like it's always is on the PDML. People asks for a DSLR, otherwise they're going to jump the ship. Pentax shows the DSLR, and people still consider to jump the ship, because the *ist D "can't compete with Canon anyway". Come on, the product isn't finished yet. The final s

Re: what you LIKE about *ist D ?

2003-03-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I like few things too. 1. K-mount 2. The camera was actually designed from the ground up with both film and digi versions in mind. So it is probably way cleaner engineering wise. 3. And finally, that it is finally there ... --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewus

Epson Printers

2003-03-03 Thread Stephen Hoffman
I'm wondering what is the general take on Epson printers? Because I really do need an all in one multifunction printer, I am thinking about the Epson CX3200 which advertises up to 5760x720 dpi. Thanks in advance for all feedback. Stephen Hoffman

Re: Hands Up II: What About the Film *ist?

2003-03-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! MC> I'm thinking of getting a film *ist if it isn't too expensive. Anyone else? For my purposes ZX-L that I have is just fine. By the way, I find no problem with its AF, except than in some difficult conditions with 135/5.6 long end of the Sigma zoom that I use. Don't forget that both ZX-L

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! MJ> NOW FORMING MJ> The PDML Hundred Percenters Club, for those netizens who shoot 100% MJ> black-and-white. MJ> We have two members already. Anybody else wanna join? Should I be starting the opposite club then? Just yesterday I was given a first roll of TMAX 100 to try out. Before then I

Re: whats wrong with this picture?

2003-03-03 Thread Rfsindg
If that lens is a SMC Takumar 50mm/1.4, shouldn't it have a rubber grip? As the lens has the metal focusing grip, shouldn't it read "Super-Multi-Coated Takumar"? Somebody make a hybrid in the shop? Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=29

RE: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
a telephoto with a TC is never going to match a dedicated macro lens for closeup quality, let alone a superb macro such as the pentax 200/4. Dont kid yourself... JCO > -Original Message- > From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:43 AM > To: [EMAI

Re: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 03.03.03 12:58, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > a telephoto with a TC is never going to match > a dedicated macro lens for closeup quality, let alone > a superb macro such as the pentax 200/4. Dont kid > yourself... Did I asy, that it will match 200/4 in temrs of picture quality?

Re: The Hundred Percenters

2003-03-03 Thread Cotty
>You can do almost anything in Photoshop including change the grain >characteristics. >If you do no other manipulation you might be right but anytime you start >with digital >where do you stop. ...as the actress said to the bishop. Where do you stop with anything? When does a painter know when

Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 Digital SLR 'E System' on Web

2003-03-03 Thread Cotty
>Using the filter-size on the lenses on the 4/3 and the *ist D as very rough >indicators on my screen, it looks to me as though they are about the same >size. One interesting note though; the Pentax follows tradition by >centering the lens mount over the "film transport" in the body. The 4/3 is >o

Re: my 35-45mm digital dilema what lens???????

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "i love using depth of field and a very bright viewfinder so my choices are: vivitar 28mm 1.9 series 1 ** vivitar 28mm 2.0 ** sigma 28mm 1.8 pentax 28mm 2.0 pentax 30mm 2.8 pentax 31mm 1.9 limted pentax 24mm 2.0 sigma 24mm 1.8 vivitar/kiron 24mm 2.0 anyon

RE: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
most "normal" ( non-macro ) lenses are optimized for a single focus distance, or in the case of IF lenses, a range of distances. By adding a ext. tube and going closer than designed you will usually degrade the image compared to what it was designed for. JCO > -Original Message- > From: Sy

Re: Do these REALLY work???

2003-03-03 Thread frank theriault
I know someone who loves his. I thought his was metal, though, and not plastic as this one is. The current $10 price might be ok, but the BIN of $20 seems a bit high for what's essentially just a plastic button... regards, frank Steve Pearson wrote: > Has anyone ever used one of these and do t

Re: How does Pentax fit into the Japanese market?

2003-03-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Who knows? The cameras haven't be released yet. Some people take pictures with cameras and not spec sheets. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: So the trick for Pentax consumers is to get a DSLR with first-rate AF. Pentax can make such a camera; the question is - will they do it.

Re: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 03.03.03 13:27, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > most "normal" ( non-macro ) lenses are > optimized for a single focus distance, or > in the case of IF lenses, a range of distances. > By adding a ext. tube and going closer than designed > you will usually degrade the image compared

Re: Re: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread Roman Bazalevsky
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:48:51 +0100, you wrote: >> Congrats, Sylwek! Can't wait to get my hand on this beauty ;-) (I should >> have my AF 1.7 Adapter with me, so we could see what a nice looong telephoto >> your new lens can be). >> >Wow! That would be interesting combination - 510/6.8! And it wo

Re: re pentax 400mm 5.6

2003-03-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:18:18 +1030, adphoto wrote: > sigma 400mm apo macro-fantastic equal to pentax I have this lens in PK-AF mount, and I've been very happy with it. I don't have a newer Pentax lens to compare, but the Sigma is better than the SMC 400/5.6 in size, handling, and optics. TTYL, D

Re: my 35-45mm digital dilema what lens???????

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> i currently use the 43mm limted and love it > however it "becomes" a 65mm with 43mm perspective on the new dslr. Again, where did this idea come from? Perspective doesn't change as long as you're standing in the same place. The 43mm on the DSLR becomes a 65mm, period. There is no change in pers

RE: my 35-45mm digital dilema what lens???????

2003-03-03 Thread Rob Brigham
Pedantically, you are correct Mike. However, many people would then back up to fit their subject in the frame as before, so perspective WOULD change. As you say, this is not inherent purely due to the cropping. > -Original Message- > From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:

Re: Pentax digital future

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> Well it's like it's always is on the PDML. People asks for a DSLR, otherwise > they're going to jump the ship. Pentax shows the DSLR, and people still > consider to jump the ship, because the *ist D "can't compete with Canon > anyway". Come on, the product isn't finished yet. The final specificat

Re: Do these REALLY work???

2003-03-03 Thread Steve Pearson
Thanks Frank, That's exactly what I was thinking, in terms of price. Still not sure if it would be useful. I would think it would be great if you could actually leave the tripod at home. Not sure if that's realistic... --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know someone who loves h

Why DSLRs really DO take better photographs...

2003-03-03 Thread Rob Brigham
I have often heard the phrase "If your photo is not good enough, then you were not close enough" or some such. Therefore DSLRs with in built crop factors obviously DO take better photos than full frame - because it forces you to get closer!

Re: whats wrong with this picture?

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2915319475&category=4688 Wow, that's interesting. Could be a very rare transition sample from the changeover to the rubberized ring. More likely, it's just had its front ring replaced --Mike

Re: Do these REALLY work???

2003-03-03 Thread Jim Apilado
An off brand soft release works effectively with my ES series of Pentaxes. I found a bunch of these buttons when a local camera store was closing. Jim A. > From: Steve Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:32:35 -0800 (PST) > To: Pentax Mail List <[E

Re: Opinions on FA* 400mm f5.6 ED (IF)

2003-03-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:41:08 -0800 (PST), Peter Jansen wrote: > I find with my F-300mm f4.5 and Z1p that I have to use > the 2s mirror-up at speeds as high as 1/125 or even > 1/180. Luckily, I'm typically shooting in bright overcast or daylight, so it's not usually a problem to get at least 1/250

Re: "ist D" marketing

2003-03-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Franklin Stregevsky" Subject: Re: "ist D" marketing > > Pål wrote: > > "When it comes to cars theres no dispute that Europe is best when to comes > to technology. For reliability, nothing beats the japanese." > > This belief was stated in about 1980 by a

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" Subject: Re: Olympus going pro > > I'm old enough to remember when the Canon EF system was released. There was no pro body. Only two amateur bodies that was in no manner better than the competition. And only 12 lenses. Utter nonsense. You need a

Re: Olympus 4/3 Digital SLR 'E System' on Web

2003-03-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter Jansen" Subject: Re: Olympus 4/3 Digital SLR 'E System' on Web > the *ist D looks pint-sized. > > R.I.P. Olympus... Seriously. One would think it needs the battery pack on the bottom for a reason too. William Robb

Re: whats wrong with this picture?

2003-03-03 Thread Joe Wilensky
Since it has the scalloped metal focusing ring, there's no guarantee that it's even Super Multicoated at all. Joe > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2915319475&category=4688 Wow, that's interesting. Could be a very rare transition sample from the changeover to the rubberized

Re: Dedicated lenses for DSLR

2003-03-03 Thread Rick Diaz
Mike, > > I beg to differ. Having taken two photograph classes > recently, everyone is > interested in digital. Why? It's new. The color > comes out sharp. And one can > print one's own prints -- that is extremely > attractive. Not just women are > interested in that. > Yes, it's new and that's

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-03 Thread gfen
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: > Well, it is reality sort of. The new Olydak is being previewed and > although the camera is no beauty it has balls. At least this system > realizes some of the advantages of digital So...its OK if it doesn't have "styling" and uses a less than

PDML Wars

2003-03-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My inbox is overflowing with messages from the PDML, even more than usual. It seems a war has broken out over the *ist D. One faction seems to love it, and promises to buy it if it is reasonably priced. This is strange, as no one has actually seen this camera yet, and the last DSLR announced

Re: Do these REALLY work???

2003-03-03 Thread Steve Pearson
Jim, When you say it "works effectively", how so? What kind of shutter speeds can you go down to and still get good results? Thanks. --- Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An off brand soft release works effectively with my > ES series of Pentaxes. > I found a bunch of these buttons when a

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > Utter nonsense. You need a fact checker on this one. > The EOS 650 was the first of the EOS cameras. When it came out, the Minolta > 7000 and Nikon 2020 were the only competition there was, and the Canon was > light years ahead in terms of perfomance and style. Not true. The Pen

Re: Pentax digital future

2003-03-03 Thread Mark Roberts
"Roland Mabo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We might end up in a situation where Pentax has two systems - where the >small sized digital can use the high-end lenses, but the high-end bodies >can't use the low-end lenses. Not at all. A high end (full frame) digital body could automatically detect

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > We couldn't keep the > things in stock, sometimes selling as many as 20 per week. But Minolta sold 1 000 000 a year and had up to 60% of the slr market > The 650 was quickly followed by the 630, which had even better performance, Not true either. There were two bodies release s

Re: PDML Wars

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Daniel wrote: > The other faction hates the camera, because it isn't perfect and isn't all things to > all photographers. I haven't seen anyone hating the camera. It is just rather bland, but will obviously serve the purpose of a K-mount slr but won't steal a single customer from Nikon and Ca

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Peter Jansen
Pål rote: "I'm old enough to remember when the Canon EF system > was released. There was no pro body. Only two > amateur bodies that was in no manner better than the > competition. And only 12 lenses." Like William said, you can't compare then to the situation now. DSLR's are far too advanced by

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
> So...its OK if it doesn't have "styling" and uses a less than full frame > sensor as long as it doesn't say Pentax? > > Maybe I'm just confused, I've taken to just deleting all teh *ist threads > for the last few days, but isn't this exactly what you're crying about > just the other day? No. I

PMA started?

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Is the PMA show started? If not, when? Are there no surprises? How about Nikon? Nothing? Pål

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: > Like William said, you can't compare then to the > situation now. I did compare the fact that Canon didn't have lots of lenses or bodies when they released the EOS system, and they didn't have single user of their lenses as nobody could use something that didn't exist until a ce

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> I thought his major assumption was that consumers won't buy a product if > something else out there looks kind of the same. > I suppose it's unfair of Pentax to make the think look like a camera. > It's so unfair to confuse people that way. The thing that gets me is that Pål is flooding the lis

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: > AND this Olympus is not any smaller than any other > system in body or lens size. No reason to buy in & no > extensive system. And where are the reason for buying into the Pentax DSLR system? The camera so far is just a prototype. There are no compact lenses yet. Lets wait and see

Re: Pentax digital future

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Mark wrote: > So your 10+ megapixel full-frame DSLR would automatically become a 6 > megapixel "APS" DSLR whenever the appropriate lens was attached. But what about the finder? Pål

Re: "ist D" marketing

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> Dodger/Chrysler who have attempted to > make such radically different looking cars are not > doing so well now in the market. Why? All show & no > go. The quality of Dodge stinks, and people catch on > quick. A funky image can only go so far. Amen, brother. I bought a Dodge Neon Sport on the bas

Re: 360FGZ, swivel

2003-03-03 Thread Matjaz Osojnik
Thanks, Matjaz > Matjaz, > > I use the regular one. With TTL, it works great. I seem to get a > little more even light than with the Omni-Bounce. > > > Bruce > >

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Ed Matthew
> The 650 was quickly followed by the 630, which had even better performance, Not true either. There were two bodies release simultaneously. I think it was 620 and 630 (it could have been 650 and 630). They were practical speaking identical and amateur bodies like the competition at the time.

Re: whats wrong with this picture?

2003-03-03 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Nice catch. I use the SMC Takumar lens twice a week on the average. I didn't see the difference even with the hint. Otis. J. C. O'Connell wrote: you got it. Lens has been repaired most likely. JCO -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, Marc

Re: "ist D" marketing

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> Nope. Some of the most respected Car magazines world-wide call these cars > utterly pointless and only for those with aversion to money. This is of course > taking it a bit too far, but according to the japanese car manufacturers what > sell well Europe sells well everywhere. Nobody in their righ

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: > I think they hit a home run with the looks of the thing. I would certainly > not be ashamed to be seen with it. You may think what you like but the fact is that never have there been released a DSLR that created less interest. You may ask yourelf why. I'm not saying I have the ult

RE: Olydak

2003-03-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
The price for the E series will be critical. There are a lot of E-10/20's out there and many folks like them. It seems like Olympus did the obvious/safe thing and created an interchangeable lens version of the E-10/20. Since Olympus has a reputation for reasonable optics, and if the price is rig

Re: FS: some classic lenses

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> Oh, oh, oh, I know exactly how you feel! > I have a 77 ltd an M85/2 and an 85/1.8 > I know that one has to go and that it has to be the 85/1.8 but I just can't > make myself do it. Well then DON'T! It's not a _sin_ to have three different medium telephotos, you know. --Mike

Re: FS: some classic lenses

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> I am considering selling the following lenses; most in very good condition > unless otherwise noted: >[snip] > 85/1.8 TBD Still not sure I can bear to part with it. Johnston's Seventh Law of Photography: "Never sell a good lens." --Lawbreaker Mike

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Peter Jansen
Well one look at the Pentax Website indicates 50 plus lenses (and growing) that are compatible with the Pentax, many of them compact for their speed/focal length (e.g. 20-35mm f4). Plus the fact that there are a million+ k mount lenses out there. Remember it is a system & you have options with Pen

Re: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 03.03.03 16:28, Christian Skofteland at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have this lens too. It's great isn't it? > Oh yes! And I think for 199$ new in box it was a great deal! -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Ricoh XR Rikenon APO 300/4.5, $210

2003-03-03 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Monday 03 March 2003 06:59, Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote: > Since no one bought this lens on the list for $250 or on eBay for $220, > I've relisted it at photo.net for $210: > http://www.photo.net/gc/domain-top?domain_id=2 > > For PDMLers, I'll include the 3-inch metal threaded hood and leathe

Re: OT: Leica Lust

2003-03-03 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
> Paul, > Actually, after about the eighth time you load film into either one of them, > you'll sell them both. He'd have to be very patient and determined to wait so long ;-) But there are many very nice cameras you could use your screwmount lenses on, Paul. One of my favourites (and something I

Re: Epson Printers

2003-03-03 Thread Taz
I bought an epson 785epx mainly for 3 reasons. One it has 6 color ink, two it does full page photos without borders, and three last fall it did the best job I've ever seen on photos. The epson ink and their process makes the photos come out dry right out of the printer. I believe it's resolution

Re: PDML Wars

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Roland wrote: > I don't think that it's possible to steal customers from Nikon and Canon. > They've invested too much in their glass, and they accept all the > shortomings of their system (the bad exposure system in Canon, the > under-featured low-end bodies from Nikon). Some of them even belie

Re: PDML Wars

2003-03-03 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PDML Wars Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:20:20 +0100 Thats where we disagree. I think that many Pentax owners will be happy >with the *ist D. However, a significant portion will realize that they >will be just as happy, if not happier, with a Nikon or a

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-03 Thread Peter Jansen
Pål wrote: "...but the fact is that > never have there been released a DSLR that created > less interest." Yeah and it's called the Olydat by Olympus. Go to Dpreview again. A new discussion on the *ist D started & says how that and the 10D will kill Minolta. Also, there's general dislike for thi

RE: Olydak

2003-03-03 Thread Brendan
These will affect new buyers, not existing one. --- Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The price for the E series will be critical. There > are a lot of > E-10/20's out there and many folks like them. It > seems like Olympus did > the obvious/safe thing and created an > interchangeab

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: > Remember it is a system & you have options with > Pentax: lots of high end glass too. I know. But that is only a good thing if you plan to use a full frame DSLR. To me, the smaller frame DSLR have some unique advantages nether my 35mm or MF system can compete with. I don't want t

Re: OT Car thread, WAS: How does Pentax fit into the Japanese market?

2003-03-03 Thread Fred
> Frankly, I'd be willing to pay $5.00 a gallon for gasoline just to > stick it to all the brainless-sheep SUV drivers. Al Gore took a lot of heat a while back when he suggested that Americans should be paying $5.00 per gallon for fuel, just like the rest of the world. To what he said, I added my

Vs: How does Pentax fit into the Japanese market?

2003-03-03 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Yeah, it is not a secret, it´s a lie. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 02. maaliskuuta 2003 23:42 Aihe: Re: Ho

Re: New toy

2003-03-03 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Monday 03 March 2003 10:31, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > on 03.03.03 16:28, Christian Skofteland at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I have this lens too. It's great isn't it? > > Oh yes! And I think for 199$ new in box it was a great deal! Wow, that is a good deal. I think I paid over US$200

Re: FS: some classic lenses

2003-03-03 Thread Th. Stach
Mike Johnston schrieb: > > > Oh, oh, oh, I know exactly how you feel! > > I have a 77 ltd an M85/2 and an 85/1.8 > > I know that one has to go and that it has to be the 85/1.8 but I just can't > > make myself do it. > > Well then DON'T! It's not a _sin_ to have three different medium telephotos, >

Re: OT: Leica Lust

2003-03-03 Thread japilado
If you can load film into a Leica, you will have acquired a skill that will last a lifetime. I'm very good loading an M2 when I photograph a wedding. Piece of cake, as they say. Yes, the later Canons, like the P, were good performers. I like the Canon VI-T (I think thats the designation)the one

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> When Canon introduced the EOS, it > was VERY ground breaking; no one had anything like it, > and AF was in it's infancy. No it wasn't. The first EOS was the EOS 650, introduced in March 1987. Canon was the third major manufacturer to switch to AF, after Minolta and Nikon, not the first. I would

Re: FS: some classic lenses

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Th. Stach wrote: > In my case I'm not shure about that. I've long been using the M 85/2.0 > and now have the FA*85/1.4 - do I still need the M 85/2? > Not shure... > What would one get for such lens? Lately they've been selling on the PDML for around $200-$250 US. chris

Re: Dedicated lenses for DSLR

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> Mike, > >> >> I beg to differ. Having taken two photograph classes >> recently, everyone is >> interested in digital. Why? It's new. The color >> comes out sharp. And one can >> print one's own prints -- that is extremely >> attractive. Not just women are >> interested in that. >> Again, I d

*ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-03 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody, Looking at the picture shown at http://www.imaging-resource.com/NPICS1/PENTAX_ISTD_HANDSON_2_L.JPG it seems to me that there is no mechanical meter coupling in the lens mount of the camera, so I was thinking that the only way to use old lenses (K and M, not to mention the others vi

Semi OT: huge lenses for Olydak

2003-03-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
I just have looked at Imaging-resource PMA report, and looked closer at new 4/3 lenses. They are big! For instance 14-54/2.8-3.5 (28-108 equiv.) has filter size 67 mm, while new Pentax FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 has only 58 mm having not that worse f range... I feel, that it is true, what most of PDMLers sa

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
>> I'm old enough to remember when the Canon EF system was released. There >> was no pro body. Only two amateur bodies that was in no manner better than >> the competition. And only 12 lenses. > Utter nonsense. You need a fact checker on this one. > The EOS 650 was the first of the EOS cameras.

Canon's AF; Was: Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Mike Johnston wrote: > > When Canon introduced the EOS, it > > was VERY ground breaking; no one had anything like it, > > and AF was in it's infancy. > > No it wasn't. The first EOS was the EOS 650, introduced in March 1987. > Canon was the third major manufacturer to switch to

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-03 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 03.03.03 16:54, Gianfranco Irlanda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Looking at the picture shown at > > http://www.imaging-resource.com/NPICS1/PENTAX_ISTD_HANDSON_2_L.JPG > > it seems to me that there is no mechanical meter coupling in the > lens mount of the camera, so I was

Re: PDML Wars

2003-03-03 Thread Camdir
Hear, hear, Daniel. One wonders if there will have to be 2 separate *ists - the film $ist and the digital £ist. Kind regards Peter

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Johnston
> You may think what you like but the fact is that never have there been > released a DSLR that created less interest. That's just not true. It's creating a LOT of interest. --Mike

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Peter wrote: > Go to Dpreview again. A new discussion on the *ist D > started & says how that and the 10D will kill Minolta. > Also, there's general dislike for this new Olympus. I was there yesterday and agian the essence was that Minolta owners were pissed off because now even pentax had a DSL

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: > The thing that gets me is that Pål is flooding the list with his, er, > "idiosyncratic" opinion, But Pentaxes are idiosyncratic! Thats what they are all about. Thats why I use them! Every Pentax I own are idiosyncratic compared to Nikon and Canon. The Limited lenses: more idiosy

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: > No it wasn't. The first EOS was the EOS 650, introduced in March 1987. Canon > was the third major manufacturer to switch to AF, after Minolta and Nikon, > not the first. I would say the first EOS wasn't introduced until AF had > become mainstream. And at first, the only result was v

Re: OT Car thread, WAS: How does Pentax fit into the Japanese market?

2003-03-03 Thread Camdir
Mike writes: << Frankly, I'd be willing to pay $5.00 a gallon for gasoline just to stick it to all the brainless-sheep SUV drivers. >> Mike. Fortunately I am fairly thick (-skinned). I drive an SUV ( I think) and regularly pay $7 near enough a gallon - mind you ours are bigger than yours (bo

RE: Olydak

2003-03-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
I don't understand this comment. Every buyer of the interchangeable lens E series is a new buyer. The ones that have the current E-10/20 might be tempted because the camera are probably similar. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 45

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Gianfranco wrote: > Am I correct or I'm missing something? You are not missing anything. I've heard from sources that should know that the *ist and *ist D may not have full compatibility with older lenses. I have uttered some cryptic remarks to that effect before. However, the *ist D isn't fina

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-03 Thread Brendan
It's there, whats missing is the power zoom contacts, but it's a bad angle to see the whole lens mount --- Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Looking at the picture shown at > > http://www.imaging-resource.com/NPICS1/PENTAX_ISTD_HANDSON_2_L.JPG > > it seems to me

Re: Canon's AF; Was: Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Chris wrote: >*And* they put the > focusing motor in their lenses, not in their bodies, which helped to keep > focusing quieter and, probably, quicker. How is this move not > revolutionary? Perhaps because Pentax did the same in 1982! Pål

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-03 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 3, 2003 11:12 am, Pål Jensen wrote: > Gianfranco wrote: > > Am I correct or I'm missing something? > > You are not missing anything. I've heard from sources that should know that > the *ist and *ist D may not have full compatibility with older lenses. I > have uttered some cryptic remarks

More *ist D from PMA

2003-03-03 Thread zoomshot
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0303/03030304istdinhand.asp Ziggy

Re: Canon's AF; Was: Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Pål Jensen wrote: > Chris wrote: > > >*And* they put the > > focusing motor in their lenses, not in their bodies, which helped to keep > > focusing quieter and, probably, quicker. How is this move not > > revolutionary? > > Perhaps because Pentax did the same in 1982! Good po

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-03 Thread Mr. Kane
Since this isn't a 'working' version of the body, maybe they just forgot to put in the aperature coupling lever? I don't see it in there either . . . . . . speaking of a non-working version of the body, wasn't the last digital body a non-working version that they announced and then pulled

Re: What film do you use?

2003-03-03 Thread CBWaters
I use ~40% B&W Mostly Tri-X. I love it. Cory - Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:43 AM Subject: What film do you use? > Having just had Amateur Photographer's B&W special (08-03-03) edition drop > throu

Re: Daylight Fill-Flash w/ 280 on Super Program

2003-03-03 Thread CBWaters
Hey Mat, How does one know if the 1/4 or the 1/2 is required? I'm a dope when it comes to exposure compensation. I've never used those dials... Cory Waters - Original Message - From: "Mat Maessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:55 PM Subject:

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Nobody expects a 300(600)/2.8 to be either small or light. The Olympus will not be considered a competitor to Pentax's DSLR. Working pros, who would never seriously consider the Pentax, will buy the Olympus because it is smaller and lighter than the Nikon/Canon alternatives. Olympus has already

Re: Semi OT: huge lenses for Olydak

2003-03-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Sure, go compare slow, consumer grade lenses to fast pro grade ones. If those Olympus lenses were scaled to 35mm applications they would have 72 - 77mm filters. I do agree that the Olympus will not be successful with typical Pentax buyers. This is not to say that they won't sell a lot of camera

Re: Pentax digital future

2003-03-03 Thread alexanderkrohe
From: Mike >> Well it's like it's always is on the PDML. People asks for a DSLR, otherwise >> they're going to jump the ship. Pentax shows the DSLR, and people still >> consider to jump the ship, because the *ist D "can't compete with Canon >> anyway". Come on, the product isn't finished yet

Re: More *ist D from PMA

2003-03-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
This articles notes a "street price" of $1600. They cite it as a rumor, however, so maybe they got bad info. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/03 11:24AM >>

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