Re: Back again

2003-06-15 Thread Paul Jones
It was actualy the road after i flew over the car :) Is the bike fixable? seems a shame to damage a Guzzi. Paul - Original Message - From: "Raimo Korhonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: Vs: Back again > Your shoulder was worse

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Jostein
I think your points are very good, Collin. I Have been thinking alon the same lines too. :-) There was a report to the List this winter that Pentax had set up a new factory in China to produce digital cameras (which was very positively received by the stock market, IIRC). To a relatively speaking s

OT - URGENT - where on web ?

2003-06-15 Thread Anand DHUPKAR
Hi folks, Any safe places/services on the web where I can upload data files from my hard drive as temporary backup ? For some reason, my computer has become a mess and worst part is my CD writer is not working. Any help, please .. anand ___

Re: Aperture coupling was Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Jostein
hm... Looks like a bright future for the FAJ-lenses, then... :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The norm now is a motor driven aperture. The camera tells the lens what > f/stop it wants, and the lens goes to it. > They either work, or they don't,

Re: non-A lenses and the *ist (D)

2003-06-15 Thread Arnold Stark
Hi Heiko, But OTOH you can use your old lenses better than every Nikon D100 or Canon D60/10D user can do. Well, I wouldn't consider buying into Nikon or Canon. However, getting a 4000 dpi slide scanner for me is an alternative to buying a DSLR. I have only a SMC-M 50/1.7 and a (often under

Re: Aperture coupling was Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 14, 2003 09:31 pm, Jostein wrote: > Valentin, > I think the diaphragm itself will continue to be made from little metal > pieces for a pretty good while yet. > > Erratic electric contacts will of course cause errors. Unless you have some > interesting definitions of "erratic", "electric", "

Re: Velvia was Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 14, 2003 11:40 pm, William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Caveman > Subject: Re: Velvia was Re: Exposure > > > Simple. Follow the ISO standardized method of determining the film ISO > > rating. > > The ISO standardized method is the first thing that is abandoned by > adv

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-15 Thread Lon Williamson
At a given price point, pan-tilt is usually a better value. More precise, locks down better, steadier. Unless you know you need a ballhead (which are easier to use when recomposition is frequent), stick with a pan-tilt. This amounts to conventional wisdom as I understand it, and my experience (3

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Whaley
Speaking of the right time to enter the market with a product, how about Kodak, and it's 27 exposure "one-time-use camera system [disposable] DIGITAL cameras? My Sunday paper came in a plastic wrapper/envelope, with the Kodak adv. on the outside. Order Premium prints and you'll get a CD with your i

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Bill Owens
I think it's just marketing hype. It appears to me that they are selling the same old disposable at an increased price to include a Photo CD. Not a bad concept considering that Joe and Jane Sixpack probably don't have a scanner and/or image editing software, but do have a computer that enables th

Re: OT - URGENT - where on web ?

2003-06-15 Thread Steve Larson
Hi, I was going to recommend Kturn, but their server is down. Try this: http://www.streamload.com/?AID=5470617&PID=529358 Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Anand DHUPKAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:22 AM Sub

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Also Pentax has a disposable digital camera: http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/news/df/pentax/single_use_uk.html On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 12:44, Keith Whaley wrote: > Speaking of the right time to enter the market with a product, how about > Kodak, and it's 27 exposure "one-time-use camera system

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 15, 2003 07:44 am, Keith Whaley wrote: > Speaking of the right time to enter the market with a product, how about > Kodak, and it's 27 exposure "one-time-use camera system [disposable] > DIGITAL cameras? > My Sunday paper came in a plastic wrapper/envelope, with the Kodak adv. > on the outs

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Arnold wrote: I can't believe that Pentax will leave its 35mm system like that, especially with the 1.5x factor of the digital sensors. More extreme wide-angle lenses must eventually be coming. hopefully WITH aperture ring, so that they are usable on older cameras, too, and in * or Limited

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Ramesh wrote: I am planning replace my existing tripd with corbon fibre tripod, so was thinking about the ball heads. I have few doubts about them. Are there any advantages in using ballhead instead of pan-tilt style ones? Which is more stable? REPLY: I suggest you look into the Berlebach woo

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce quoted: >From photo.net: "Can anyone think of a single valid reason why a new lens mount should be necessary? " Ask Canon or Minolta. They did such a stunt and made a lot of business sense. -- Pål Jensen If some of you are old enough you might recall that Pentax also had to change th

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
And as a serious comment. Canon does a lot of business because they always have the right product at the right time, with the right technology and performance, not because they changed camera mounts. REPLY: Really? So Canon EOS has nothing to do with the lens mount? The technology and perform

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Caveman: Minolta also changed mounts, but that did not prevent them to be now in such a poor shape that they're looking for a buyer for the company (I hear they're in talks with Konica). REPLY: Minolta changed mount and sold 2.000.000 AF cameras of one single, expensive model in 2 years. Nobod

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Collin wrote: Given how technology changes and how fabrication needs would seem to require some consistency ... I wonder how many of these were made all in one batch with the expectation that they'd be sold over time. Perhaps make 500 (in whole or parts awaiting later assembly) knowing that the st

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Caveman: They're not taken seriously there either. Otherwise we had heard of a third-party rush to provide digital backs for the 645 or 67. REPLY: There have been "such a rush" even if you haven't heard about it. I know people who have used a digital back for the 645N(II). The problem is that

Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
Doug wrote: Why the hell does it matter to you if Paal shoots to his satisfation? Does it affect your photography even a little bit? REPLY: The modus operandi is the following: He doesn't use equipment where you can set exposure consistently within 1/3s. When I say that I want such possibiliti

Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: I actually quite envy Pål. It would be so much easier to only have to toss images because I can't compose a picture worth looking at. I have no problem with his assertion that his images are always perfectly exposed. He uses modern equipment that is well calibrated and I expect he k

Re: My Magnum Day

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
Nah, Tom, stay where you are. You can always come into the city for such events (although, as I said, I didn't plan yesterday, I just happened to walk by and go in). OTOH, I was awakened by a gunshot last night, at around 11:45. That hasn't happened in about 2 years now... Must've been someone

Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
I love this place! ciao, frank Caveman wrote: > Doug Brewer wrote: > > Why the hell does it matter to you if Paal shoots to his satisfation? > > I actually don't care. I just objected to some pompous unsubstantial claims. > > cheers, > caveman -- "What a senseless waste of human life" -The Cu

Re: non-A lenses and the *ist (D)

2003-06-15 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Arnold, on 15 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >>But OTOH you can use your old lenses better than every Nikon D100 or >>Canon D60/10D user can do. >Well, I wouldn't consider buying into Nikon or Canon. However, getting >a 4000 dpi slide scanner for me is an alternative to buying a DSLR.

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Lon Williamson
What was it about the old Canon mount? Too narrow? Too far from (or too near to) the film plane? Have Nikon and Pentax been able to keep cobbling along because their mount dimensions were more generous? Somewhere this must have been written about, but I've never seen an article or discussion. -L

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
In VA, if you have sex with a person who is sufficiently incapacitated that is considered rape. We warn male students about this all the time. If you are at a party and a women is really drunk, then don't have sex with her even if she appears to be willing. If a court/jury decides that you took

Re: OT - URGENT - where on web ?

2003-06-15 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "Anand DHUPKAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Any safe places/services on the web where I can upload data files from my > hard drive as temporary backup ? For some reason, my computer has become a > mess and worst part is my CD writer is not working. >

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
6 MP is simply good enough for a large number of folks. Sure, the price of higher MP chips will come down, but 6 MP will be cheaper and DSLR prices have a long way to fall to compete with film. This a the 35 vs. MF argument resurrected. The biggest problem with 6 MP is the wide angle problem.

Re: non-A lenses and the *ist (D)

2003-06-15 Thread Arnold Stark
Hi Heiko, Well, I might do so, too, if there was no alternative, however I prefer to first ask Pentax whether they really want me to damage my K- and M series lenses so that I can use them on the *ist D That might be the best option - wait and see. Did you contact Pentax concerning this

Re: Dark Prints?

2003-06-15 Thread Thomas Haller
Hi Caveman, > "I suggest to repeat the test using slide film..." > I am in the process of doing that, I have some Kodak 100G loaded in both cameras. I'll see how they come out. I'd have posted an example but I have no access to a flatbed scanner, just a slide scanner (not mine, but I can occasi

Re: OT - URGENT - where on web ?

2003-06-15 Thread Anthony Farr
What about a second hard drive, instead? The same happened to me recently, and I had several weeks of photos that I hadn't burned to CD. Coincidentally my hard drive was getting uncomfortably full (above 70%) so I took the opportunity to install an additional hard drive. It was such an easy job I

Re: non-A lenses and the *ist (D)

2003-06-15 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
>From Arnold >I insist that a software update should easily cure the problem. The way >the *ist and the *ist D are programmed now, in aperture priority mode >(which really is an "open aperture mode" when there is a K or M lens >attached) the light meter and the viewfinder information are switched >

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Throat diameter is just one thing. What Canon did was to system engineer an entire SLR system from a fresh start. This means that folks sat down, figured out what they wanted the system to do and then figured out the best way to do it. They determined that electronic control of the lens was bes

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-15 Thread Pentxuser
Every serious professional photographer that I have ever read about uses a ball head. I'm sure there are exceptions but rarely do I see pan tilts recommended in photography magazines. Maybe it's the magazines I read (outdoor photographer primarily) but I can't imagine ever using anything but a

Re: Pentax's future (was: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-15 Thread Mark Cassino
At 12:08 PM 6/8/2003 +0200, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: I do not think so. I think that Pentax's future really lies in the crippled (AKA FAJ-mount, AKA Kaf3), and if they are to do this thing, then why not now? For the kinds of customers that Pentax is after, it really makes sense economically to le

Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Caveman
Pål Jensen wrote: The meter and camera is never wrong. After so many posts on the subject you're still making this insane claim. There's no meter with 0% error and mechanical device with 0% tolerances. Can you understand that ? cheers, caveman

Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Cogan
Hi I want to quit using close-up filters and start using a macro lens for flowers, insects, etc. Which lens would be a good place to start? Thanks, Tony

Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Caveman
Pål Jensen wrote: Doug wrote: Why the hell does it matter to you if Paal shoots to his satisfation? Does it affect your photography even a little bit? REPLY: The modus operandi is the following: He doesn't use equipment where you can set exposure consistently within 1/3s. Trying to change the s

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-15 Thread Ramesh Kumar
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Every serious professional photographer that I have > ever read about uses a > ball head That is what made me think about ballhead. Thanks Rameh __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Re: Aperture coupling was Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
Well, if they were on a disk that rotated the proper hole into the lens axis, fixed stops would be just as quick as diaphragm stops. Would probably work better on a P&S type camera though. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Nick Zentena" <[E

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What was it about the old Canon mount? >Too narrow? Too far from (or too near to) >the film plane? Have Nikon and Pentax been >able to keep cobbling along because their mount >dimensions were more generous? Somewhere this >must have been written about,

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Steve Larson
Hi, Vivitar Series 1 90-180/4.5 or Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 with 1:1 adapter, coupled with an LX you have a great macro system. Accessory #1) 58mm male to 58mm male filter ring. Accessory #2) Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 for reverse-mounting on 90/2.5 with 1:1 adapter for extreme close ups. Steve Lar

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-15 Thread Ramesh Kumar
Pal wrote: > Light ballheads are sturdier than light pan/tilt > heads simply because theres more material going into > a pan/tilt head. Thanks for technical explanation. Thanks for everybody for responding. Regards Ramesh __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Ramesh Kumar
I started with Pentax FA 50mm macro and then added Pentax FA 100mm macro. My suggestion is you can start directly with 100mm macro and for most of the people 100mm may be enought for macro work. You may not need 200mm macro. Coming brand I think Pentax or Sigma. No need to tell; Pentax is really

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Caveman
One with around 100mm focal length. Doubles as a portrait lens too. Inexpensive options: - Pentax FA 100/3.5 (autofocus) - Vivitar S1 90/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5, Tokina ATX 90/2.5 (manual focus) Expensive options: - Pentax F or FA 100/2.8, Sigma EX 105/2.8 (autofocus) - Pentax A 100/2.8 (manual focus)

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Ramesh Kumar
I was referring to f2.8 verions. --- Ramesh Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started with Pentax FA 50mm macro and then added > Pentax FA 100mm macro. > My suggestion is you can start directly with 100mm > macro and for most of the people 100mm may be > enought > for macro work. You may not n

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Dr E D F Williams
You left out the Sigma 50/2.8 manual focus EX. I don't think autofocus would help me much for macro work. Doon ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "Caveman" <[EM

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread alexanderkrohe
--- Tony Cogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > I want to quit using close-up filters and start > using a macro lens for > flowers, insects, etc. Which lens would be a good > place to start? > > Thanks, > Tony > > Hi, I use the FA50mm most. For larger magnifications I prefer the 50mm over t

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread mishka
I am very happy with Vivitar Series 1 105/2.5 (which is the same as Kiron 105/2.5); does 1:1 without extensions, great build, backwards focusing direction (compared to Pentax lenses). It can be had for <$120 in great condition. Mishka From: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Which macro len

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/15/2003 2:25:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You have an artists eye, lovely composition and execution. Whoa, THANKS! Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: Compatibility

2003-06-15 Thread Arnold Stark
Hi Jens, both cameras have no aperture simulator but we do know that after properly setting the according custom function the *ist and a pre-production *ist D can work with K and M lenses - either in "metered open aperture mode" (aka "aperture priority mode") in which the aperture stays open al

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Or Tamron 90mm/2.8 Autofocus. I have this lens, highly recommended. The impression I have from reading various tests and user experiences: you can't go wrong with any of the 90~100mm macro lenses. The differences are not big. If I had to choose again, I might go for the the F or FA100mm/2.8 Pentax

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Whaley
Nice job, Marnie! keith whaley Some P.S. thoughts: Not too many wide open spaces in Contra Costa County anymore, are there? I loved that barn shot! I lived in Concord, way back in '58-'63, and a revisit in about '95 left my head reeling! My little house, in a very small, quiet community of 2 B.R.

Re: Pentax dropping M Shift, A 15/3.5, ...

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
They have promised more lenses in the fall. This in their press release and also circulating in the rumor mill. The press release says it is lenses suited for the *istD something I think means wide angles. Some PDML member heard at PMA that there are both a 16/2.8 and a 16-35/2.8 coming. They bo

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
These graphic artists sneak in here and pretend photography is hard for them . Nice work. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: "My" Photography Show > We

Re: Dark Prints?

2003-06-15 Thread Rfsindg
Take a look at your negatives. Are they really dark? Did the lab pull these images our of bad negatives? It sounds like your metering is way off. Look at the batteries and the contacts in the battery chamber. New batteries are cheaper than another roll of film. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: OT - URGENT - where on web ?

2003-06-15 Thread Altaf Shaikh
How much room do you need, I can give you space on my server for free just let me know how much room you need and how big the files are (tiff or jpg). al -Original Message- From: Anand DHUPKAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 6:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: O

FA77 observation...

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
After the yet to be finished adventure of my brand new FA31 (being checked with Pentax now), I discovered something interesting about my FA77 yesterday. I have purchased an used metal Takumar 100mm hood and see if it works on my FA77 which has a rather shallow hood. It seemed to work fine, but

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/15/2003 3:16:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Nice job, Marnie! > > keith whaley > > Some P.S. thoughts: > Not too many wide open spaces in Contra Costa County anymore, are there? > I loved that barn shot! > I lived in Concord, way back in '58-'63, a

Re: FA77 observation...

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
The only 2 parts that could cause the drag is F101 & F131 as far as I can imagine. But I could be wrong. regards, Alan Chan After the yet to be finished adventure of my brand new FA31 (being checked with Pentax now), I discovered something interesting about my FA77 yesterday. I have purchased a

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/15/2003 3:40:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > These graphic artists sneak in here and pretend photography > is hard for them > . Nice work. > > Ciao, > Graywolf Hehehehe. I never was a graphic artist actually, just a painter once. For a while, long

Re: FA77 observation...

2003-06-15 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.6.15 4:53 PM, "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The > strange thing is, the focus ring feels light again if the camera was shifted > to portrait format (on camera or not really doesn't matter). I too have been aware of it since I purchased it when it came out. In fact, it was first

Re: SV: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Peter Alling
I have, and I grasp it very well thank you. May you gain wisdom with time as well my son. At 09:29 PM 6/15/03 +0200, you wrote: To grasp the true meaning of socialism - try a little reading! -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juni 2003 21:23 Til

Re: FA77 observation...

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
Perhaps Pentax made the helical portion too narrow (F101) because the design is basically the same as M lenses. regards, Alan Chan I too have been aware of it since I purchased it when it came out. In fact, it was first pointed out by someone in this list at that time. It is hard to tell what

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Peter Alling
I doubt that it is as simple as all that. Roanoke is still a small town. You're dealing with a local paper, not the New York Post or Daily News, it is most likely they toned down their report rather than playing up the more sensational aspects of the case to spare the local populaces's sensibil

Re: On Topic: Two questions

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
1. Yesterday I've loaded a TMax 100 film to my ZX-L. ME Super is going to be cleaned and probably mirror foam going to be replaced. ZX-L rated the TMax 100 as 160 ISO film. How come? Try to clean the DX contacts on the camera and the film cartridge and see if it solves the problem. 2. I've got 49

Re: Aperture coupling was Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
will give repeatable aperture sizes to very close tolerances. If calibrated properly. :-) regards, Alan Chan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Re: Aperture coupling was Re: Exposure

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
Looks like a bright future for the FAJ-lenses, then... :-) Yep, the future FAJ, not the current FAJ. regards, Alan Chan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Sunday, June 15, 2003, 10:04:03 PM, you wrote: > And photography *IS* hard. ;-) you've done well in that set to show some variety within a coherent theme. This is something that the Royal Photographic Society (RPS) stresses when people submit work for their distinction awards. But having sat

Re: a thought on marketing philosophy

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
Were the Kodak Photo CDs you used to get back when requested recorded with a proprietary format, but they're offering jpegs now? Don't know, but I'll bet someone here has the info... There are 2 CDs from Kodak. PhotoCD is the high quality 4000dpi scans while PictureCD is low quality format. regar

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Shell's wife had enough of the whole thing: http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story150953.html BR

Re: Tripod question

2003-06-15 Thread Cotty
> I am planning replace my existing tripd with corbon > fibre tripod, so was thinking about the ball heads. > I have few doubts about them. As indeed I did when I was in your position. Having since purchased a Manfrotto 486RC2 ball head some months ago, I can truly say that it has proven faultles

Re: Which macro lens would you buy

2003-06-15 Thread Ryan Charron
Hi There, No one has mentioned the Tamron 90mm AF f2.8 1x macro. I've got one and it's superb!! Sincerely, Ryan __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Re: Pentax's future (was: *ist D revisited)

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
but if Pentax knew this was the direction they were going in why not include on-body aperture control? Judging from the Pentax K mount history, I have a strong feeling that they have never had a strong vision, let alone direction. We all know they have had many never-seen-the-light products, as

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Treena
Oh, I very much doubt that. You'd be surprised at what goes on regularly in small towns, and what the cops find on a regular basis. A LARGE portion of the weirdness in this country is in its small towns, and if I were to describe to you some of the stuff that has gone on in our little town of 2,500

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Peter Alling
I live in a small town too, and I understand the weirdness that can lie below the surface. I was only commenting on small town newspapers, (who in my experience gloss over such things), and politics, (I believe that district attorneys are elected in Virginia which makes a very political office e

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Bill Owens
As someone who grew up in Roanoke and still visits quite often... It's not what you would normally picture as a small town. The city of Roanoke has a population of ~90,000 and the metropolitan area brings it well over 100,000. Since Radford University and Virginia Tech are the largest universiti

RE: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Well, not "mine." I finally finished the advanced > photography class I was taking and it ended in a little > show. Actually, when everything was hung (eight students > remaining) it looked d__n good and not

RE: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Shaun Canning
Shit, you guys think 90,000 is a small town. I live in a town of 2,500 and think it's big enough (admittedly Melbourne is only 60 kilometres away and has 3~4 million). The best part about my town is that nothing ever happens, and I mean nothing Cheers Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services

RE: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Peter Alling
Well, more properly the town I live in used to be a small town, about 20 years ago we had a year round population of about 3000, now it's about 20,000. It's still got a small town mentality. At 09:30 AM 6/16/03 +1000, you wrote: Shit, you guys think 90,000 is a small town. I live in a town of 2,500

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Marnie, I really like the barn. I drive from Sacramento to SF fairly often and have thought over and over that I would like to capture those beautiful hills. Getting the right composition is the real trick. I am always in a rush and can never take the time to do it. Your barn shot is quite in

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Leonard Paris
This reminds me of a story I heard recently. It goes like this: A girl goes to the police station and reports that she was raped. The desk sergeant asks when it happened. She says, "Two weeks ago". The desk sergeant asks, "When did you realize that you had been violated? She says, "When th

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Bill Owens
My Dad always said Roanoke was "too big to be a small town and too small to be a big town. Bill > Well, more properly the town I live in used to be a small town, about 20 > years ago we had a year round population of about 3000, now it's about 20,000. > It's still got a small town mentality. > >

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Brendan
And to think people have been comparing me to Bob shell, K __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Re:[thats it] "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread brooksdj
> Well, not "mine." I finally finished the advanced photography class I was taking and it ended in a little show. Actually, when everything was hung (eight students remaining) it looked d__n good and not that little. This is my part of the show. Depending

Re: "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
I agree with you, Bruce, The barn is my fave, too. Well done, Marnie! All were wonderful shots. So now that it's all over, what do you think of your instructer? cheers, frank Bruce Dayton wrote: > Marnie, > > I really like the barn. I drive from Sacramento to SF fairly often > and have tho

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
Well, Leonard, You've hit the nail on the head. He's innocent until proven guilty. And the State has to prove it's case against him "beyond a reasonable doubt" (not beyond a shadow of a doubt - commone mistake ). Hard to know what the guy did or didn't do, or what the girl did or didn't agree t

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
Biting my tongue, biting my tongue, biting my tongue... -frank Brendan wrote: > And to think people have been comparing me to Bob > shell, K > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- "What a senseless

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Brendan
Fank be nice :D --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Biting my tongue, biting my tongue, biting my > tongue... > > > > -frank > > Brendan wrote: > > > And to think people have been comparing me to Bob > > shell, K > > > > > ___

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Caveman
Naah, listen to good old Caveman: you have to get married first. This is the only true way to get a divorce. (And that's why wimin are so insistent about it.) Then get a studio and do nudes. Lots of them, including fetish, bondage and the whole dark side. Get published. From this moment wife wi

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
So that's why you work in an underground bunker, completely impervious to nuclear (or as GW would say, nuk-u-lar) attack? So your signifcant other won't know what evil lurks in your mind? cheers, frank Caveman wrote: > Naah, listen to good old Caveman: you have to get married first. This is >

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Peter Alling
The circumstances of her death will weigh heavily against him. Remember there is a death involved here. There is no question of the girl agreeing or not, she's dead that is not an option of consent, not in any jurisdiction I'm aware of. At 08:40 PM 6/15/03 -0400, you wrote: Well, Leonard, You'

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Caveman
frank theriault wrote: Hard to know what the guy did or didn't do, or what the girl did or didn't agree to, Strange: a tape recorded with a porn movie constitues evidence ("pornography found on premises"), while one with a record of what actually happened in the room can't be used as evidence in

Re: Quote of the Day

2003-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
And as a serious comment. Canon does a lot of business because they always have the right product at the right time, with the right technology and performance, not because they changed camera mounts. Really? So Canon EOS has nothing to do with the lens mount? The technology and performance would

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
That was clearly an improper instruction, and if appealed, would likely have resulted in a new trial. The fact that the Crown didn't appeal just says that they didn't give a s**t either... -frank William Robb wrote: > We had a case here a few years back where a couple of rich white kids > whack

Re: [thats it] "My" Photography Show

2003-06-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/15/2003 3:22:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Very nice Marnie,I too like the barn shot.Good composition and lighting. > On a side note,your montage shots are exactly what i'm looking for a program to do > automatically.I can do them somewhat in PS bu

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Caveman
frank theriault wrote: I didn't mix sex into it at all, the police did. AFAIK, he hasn't been charged with murder yet, only with "sodomy" (which shouldn't be a criminal charge, imho), and with "sexual penetration with an object" (which shouldn't be a criminal charge, either). Huh. So using a suppo

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread frank theriault
Who the hell am I kidding? Any reference to my sex life must be presented in the past tense. -frank I rather optimistically wrote: > No one here knows anything about my > sexual preferences (and it's gonna stay that way!) -- "What a senseless waste of human life" -The Customer in Monty Pytho

Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell?

2003-06-15 Thread Peter Alling
I wouldn't say this can't happen here but it shouldn't. At 08:03 PM 6/15/03 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Did you hear the one about Bob Shell? > The circumstances of her death will weigh heavily against him. Remember > there is > a death involved

  1   2   >