On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 13:20, Steve Desjardins wrote:
It is an interesting problem, e.g., how much of the record from our time
will be erased or preserved over the next 2000 years, even assuming that
no great catastrophe befalls us. I think we should create a PDML time
capsule, and bury it on
I'm with Christian on this. This list is more than just about Pentax.
Having been on the list for quite a while, I find the ebb and flow to
give me much more than just the basics of photography. There are many
that have become friends and many whose opinions I value.
Leave it just the way it
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote:
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote:
If yout shoot a 50, you are stupid unless you read Mike Johnston.
Can you elaborate please?
Mike Johnston is a semi-famous writer who used to hang
around here and might yet
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, graywolf wrote:
I guess, I wonder, does anyone apperciate my efforts here?
I do very much so, please keep it up. Same for everyone.
Kostas
Mike Johnston wrote some pretty specific opinions on Pentax 50mm glass being
outstanding. Last I read, the old metal 50mm Super Multi Coated Takumar was
his favorite for images it produced and for feel. They feel much like a
Limited lens, but focus without the whirr.
Regards, Bob S.
[EMAIL
what server is smart enough to know the right list?
Herb
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:01 AM
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It is fairly easy to
they have been able to do it for about 15 years. write speed and read speed
are very slow, and the storage fades after about 6 months unless renewed.
that's why they gave up. nice concept in theory. your 10 layer DVD is now
approaching commercial feasilbility. that's 5 years out at most before we
That SIR Billyboy Gates to you . . .
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/27/04 03:40AM
Hi Arnie,
should you manage to sell this kind of shot to Billyboy Gates for
advertisements,
it won't be _that_ useless...
;-)
Thomas
hey list,
while sitting at my computer i did an experiment with my istD. this
is
Hi Graywolf,
I don't want to argue with others here, but this is my
experience.
I owned a Vivitar 19mm f3.8 for years and was quite
happy with it, until I compared it to another lens. My
advice to you is: Don't buy it! It only sharpens up
stopped way down and even then, it's not that great
the visual equivalent of screeching microphone feedback.
arnie
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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: most useless photo ever
On 26 Jan 2004 18:29:22 -0800, Scott Nelson wrote:
ps.
Hey,
does anyone still use the ei-100/200? I hadn't used mine in a couple of months but
since then I've upgraded my computer (asus a7n8x) and win2k. It used to work fine
with Win98/Me, but now I get USB errors. The ports themselves are fine, I have a
scanner (lide 80) at 2.0 (I'm pretty sure
Just a guess, but I bet the driver isn't compatable with your new operating
system.
Have you tried finding an updated driver for it?
William Robb
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From: Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC)
Subject: digital ei-100 usb problems
Hey,
does anyone still use the ei-100/200? I hadn't
Hi,
I was going to stay out of this thread this time (the subject has come up
before) as it had seemed I'm the only one with a mediocre impression of the
Vivitar 19mm. Ryan's experiences mirror my own, flarey (it's biggest
problem imo) and soft in the corners, at least to f/11. I haven't
While I think that's unlikely, though not impossible, it's the retrieval of
the data that's the problem. I've worked on databases where the indexes
took up more space than the data.
At 02:15 AM 1/27/04, you wrote:
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 13:20, Steve Desjardins wrote:
It is an interesting problem,
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From: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Herb Chong wrote:
a DVD holds a lot of images. two copies for backup, three if you
really want to play it safe,
One safety trick is to use discs of different brand for those
double (or
I do the occasional blob shot too -
http://www.bigdayphoto.com/fuzz/
Sometimes pretty colors are ok!
tv
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From: John Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Me and Bobby McGee
Shel, it's
I want to start saving my pictures to DVD instead of CD and need a
question answered.
Can DVDs be written to several times (multi-session) as CDs can? Or,
should I hold my pictures on my hard drive until I have enough for a
full DVD burn?
Len
* There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Hi,
While I think that's unlikely, though not impossible, it's the retrieval of
the data that's the problem. I've worked on databases where the indexes
took up more space than the data.
the days of indexes are numbered, at last.
http://www.ics.ie/transrelationalmodel.shtml
There is a good
Win2K doesn't have particularly good USB support. That could be your problem.
At 09:25 AM 1/27/04, you wrote:
Hey,
does anyone still use the ei-100/200? I hadn't used mine in a couple of
months but since then I've upgraded my computer (asus a7n8x) and
win2k. It used to work fine with
From the Photoshop List. Perhaps some folks here will find
this of value.
In last week's Personal Technology column in the Wall Street Journal
(http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html), Walter Mossberg favorably reviewed
Adobe PS Album 2.0. He pointed out the link to the free, lite version
and
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From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And here I sit, trying to determine who AH is. I just can't seem to
fit the initials with anyone I know. . . Hmmm.
I got a feeling that AH is also known under WTSDS...
Cheers,
Jostein
Quoting Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can DVDs be written to several times (multi-session) as CDs can? Len
* There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Yes. After you've done everything you want to do with the DVD, then you close
the disc just like CD-ROM.
At 11:26 AM 27/01/2004, you wrote:
A trivial question; does the MZ-S ship with a bayonet style body cap or a
push
on and if so what colour?
Cheers,
Rob Studdert
White push-on
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com
Thanks, yeah I did try looking for drivers. The pentax page (canada/usa/japan) only
has drivers for win95/98/Me. I assume that means win2k/Xp is supposed to be
automatic.
I also tried connecting the camera to MacOS X. Nothing. Worked fine with my friend's
Canon A70 a couple of months
subject line says it all...
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From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do the occasional blob shot too -
http://www.bigdayphoto.com/fuzz/
Sometimes pretty colors are ok!
tv
To my eye, the FA* 24 is actually displaying more chromatic abberation
than the A/24. Am I wrong?
Jeff.
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From: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: *ist D A24/2.8 vs FA24/2 comparision?
Many thanks to Mishka, Frank, Chris and all others that helped on the MIR-47
and Vivitar 19mm threads.
Looking forward to any test data when you guys who have a MIR, get chance to
post it.
The widest I currently have is a 28-300 Tamron LD AS, which is very useful
when travelling.
I'd like wider
You may need a CF card reader. My simple reader reads EI-100 formatted cards
without problems.
Sven
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Von: Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2004 18:36
An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Betreff: Re: digital ei-100 usb problems
Thank you.
I would kind of guess that lenses in this price category have pretty poor
quality control. I is possible that everyone's comments are accurate, for their
individual lens. One would not expect Pentax quality from one in any case, but
for $100 or so, if you can walk into the store and
Interesting! I guess the answer must be quality control. I have printed pictures up to
A3 size (15.5x11) including close and distant detail and have been very impressed.
The slide was scanned on a nikon 4000.
I must have a good sample.
Nick.
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From: William
Jeff Jonsson wrote:
To my eye, the FA* 24 is actually displaying more chromatic abberation
than the A/24. Am I wrong?
And lower sharpness at f/2.8.
Dario
Rob, a sample (center and edge) is published in my *ist D test:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/t04p11e.htm
Browsing is slow now, maybe
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
That is not necessarily true. An unmoderated list with good involvement
by the list manager can generally keep things on topic by reminding
people not to drift too far off topic. A steady but not too strong
hand doing this for a long period will grow a
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I shot 154 exposures at a concert the other night, the light was poor and
they
weren't staying still for me. Discarding outright rejects due to focus,
shake,
subject movement, blown out highlights and unpleasant expressions left me
with
38 usable shots.
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I don't believe that you can scan 200 messages a day and decide if
they are interesting to your or not, no matter what client you use.
I do.
And two other lists.
And I work an average of 50 hours a week.
Digests! You get a dozen or so emails a day,
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I have found that there are basically three ways of getting models.
1. Money. You can always hire models if you offer to pay enough.
2. Fame. If you are a famous photographer whom the model has heard of,
she is
usually willing to pose for you.
3.
Hi gang ...
Over the next few weeks I'm going to attempt scanning a lot
of conventional BW negs. I have heard a number of
conflicting opinions on the best way to do this. Most
comments center around whether to scan in RGB or greyscale.
Greyscale would be nice as I could save some space, but if
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2082147
For those of you who are new: part of an ongoing series.
For everyone: yes, it's not sharp. Harsh shadows. And, yes Tom, it's a
young lady g. The gender imbalance is being addressed (but those
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Doesn't everyone have a delete key to delete those they don't want to
read.
Yup. And for some messages, my delete key is automatic :)
You mean like thi
Oh no, I don't autodelete *your* messages Cotty!
(I do have a special folder for them. Kind of like a
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
while sitting at my computer i did an experiment with my istD. this is the
result of shooting the mouse cursor, putting the card into the computer,
viewing the image, placing the cursor within the cursor in the image,
putting the card back in the camera,
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I hear what you're saying, Lon.
If it's real dark in a bar or at a party, I'll use a flash. But never a
tri
or monopod.
In Saskatchewan, I am pretty sure they have not repealed the post
Prohibition law forbidding photography in a licensed
That's good news. I think I can use my Nero program to burn them, too.
It's a good burner for CDs.
Len
* There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Yes. After you've done everything you want to do with the
DVD, then you close
the disc just like CD-ROM.
On 27/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
But when it is on a mailing list sponsered by Pentax, there are
liability issues
involved. On a public list, as the PDML is now, they don't have to
worry about it.
Our Johnny read, on the Official Pentax Mailing list, how to modify
his strobe,
stuck
http://www.digitalkamera.de/Kameras/CanonEOS-1DII.asp
Cheers,
Cotty
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did I read that right? 8.2MP and 8.5 frames per second for 40 frames?
Christian
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:37 PM
Subject: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...
I wanted to say, Yes, and plenty of heals., but that's mean and untrue...
(but it would have been witty).
At 01:44 PM 1/27/04, you wrote:
On 26/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
That is not necessarily true. An unmoderated list with good involvement
by the list manager can generally keep things
Christian,
That is what I read on at nikondigital.org. The buffer is 40 jpeg/20 RAW.
Pretty amazing huh? The Nikonites are already crying about what this means
to Nikon.
We (Pentaxians) are pretty much imune to it. :-)
César
Panama City, Florida
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-- From:
That's a great idea. Now I just gotta find me a
cheap reader. Thanks!
You may need a CF card reader. My simple reader
reads EI-100 formatted cards without problems.
Sven
After all at the rate we're going that technology will be there for the taking
in K mount in about a decade...
At 03:19 PM 1/27/04, you wrote:
Christian,
That is what I read on at nikondigital.org. The buffer is 40 jpeg/20 RAW.
Pretty amazing huh? The Nikonites are already crying about what
JA!
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From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:37 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...
http://www.digitalkamera.de/Kameras/CanonEOS-1DII.asp
Cheers,
Cotty
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Anyone heard a street price yet?
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From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...
Christian,
That is what I read on at nikondigital.org. The
Actually being a scanning expert for my job I will try a response...
The Imacon Flextight is essentially a drum scanner, and as such has a
pretty good DMAX, 4.6 for the 646 to be precise. And, I'm not sure
(because it doesn't say in the BH big book) but I think it can do up to
16-bit grayscale.
On 27/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
That is not necessarily true. An unmoderated list with good involvement
by the list manager can generally keep things on topic by reminding
people not to drift too far off topic. A steady but not too strong
hand doing this for a long period will grow a
And a larger than APS sensor.
Christian wrote:
did I read that right? 8.2MP and 8.5 frames per second for 40 frames?
Christian
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:37 PM
Subject: OT - Opposition Notching
From Steve Blumenkranz as posted on the photo.net Leica Photography
board:
Today I received an email from Kodak clarifying their position regarding
their intent as regards their future as a supplier of film. To make a
short story shorter they state an intenton of continuing to support the
film
On 27 Jan 2004 at 19:48, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Jeff Jonsson wrote:
To my eye, the FA* 24 is actually displaying more chromatic abberation
than the A/24. Am I wrong?
And lower sharpness at f/2.8.
Kicking myself that I sold the A24/2.8 :-(
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel
On 27 Jan 2004 at 12:33, wendy beard wrote:
White push-on
Thanks team :-)
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
On 27 Jan 2004 at 18:42, Nick Clark wrote:
Interesting! I guess the answer must be quality control. I have printed pictures
up to A3 size (15.5x11) including close and distant detail and have been very
impressed. The slide was scanned on a nikon 4000. I must have a good sample.
Nick.
The one
I scan BW negs in RGB. That way I can control the look of the gray or
tone them a bit toward a sepia or a selenium look if I wish. Plus, I
think I get better gradations of grayscale in RGB. When I want small
files I convert the scans to grayscale in PhotoShop after they've been
scanned, cleaned
Suppose Pentax came out with a similar camera for $3200 (I'm assuming the price of the
Nikon d2h) Do you think they would sell many?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/27/04 03:37PM
After all at the rate we're going that technology will be there for the taking
in K mount in about a decade...
At 03:19 PM
I only have FA*24/2, and it does have most chromatic abberation even with
film.
Regards,
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
To my eye, the FA* 24 is actually displaying more chromatic abberation
than the A/24. Am I wrong?
Jeff.
On 27 Jan 2004 at 13:20, Len Paris wrote:
That's good news. I think I can use my Nero program to burn them, too.
It's a good burner for CDs.
I'm using Nero with the Sony DRX-510ULK and it works well. I don't write multi-
session though as any subsequent session could potentially corrupt data
On 27 Jan 2004 at 18:50, Cotty wrote:
SHOCK. Rob S finds something positive about a DSLR - it's official.
It's just another tool :-)
Did find another thing to bitch about though. The metering mode is one of the
few controls that there is no quick way to assess when working in darkness. No
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: OT: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
From Steve Blumenkranz as posted on the photo.net Leica Photography
board:
Today I received an email from Kodak clarifying their position regarding
their intent as regards their future as a
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From: arnie
Subject: Re: most useless photo ever
what's a desktop tool?
I thought it would make a cool pointer.
William Robb
Paul's advice works well if your scanner is only capable of scanning
grayscale at 8 bits. Also it helps if the DMAX of your scanner is below
4. However, with a 16-bit grayscale image, you'd have 65536 shades of
gray to play around with. And again, downconverting to a TIFF is gonna
strip out 65280
Hi Paul,
Not to dissuade you from your scanning practices, but to
better understand the concept: Why scan in RGB for ultimate
tonality? There are numerous ways to tone or tint a
straight greyscale print in PS, and, at least with the
methods I've tried, they are simple, fast, easy, and quite
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:11:47 -0500, arnie wrote:
the visual equivalent of screeching microphone feedback.
But I _L_I_K_E_ feedback! :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
did I read that right? 8.2MP and 8.5 frames per second for 40 frames?
Man, I knew Canon was going to respond to the Nikon D2h by PMA but I
didn't think they'd blow it away like this!
I can't say I'm too surprised.
Canon don't want to lose their
Well, Baseline TIFF (per spec ver. 6.0) is 8 bits per color channel, 24 bits
for RGB, and 8 bits for grayscale. 16-bit per color channel TIFFs are
supported in Photoshop, and some other programs, but aren't universally
transferrable yet. And of course JPEG only supports 8 bit color, and any
Sometimes I wonder if those shooting digital would like to see the era of
film end ASAP.
Jim A.
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:56:32 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
Resent-From: [EMAIL
nice in theory. every image editing program i have, about 7, and all my
image browsing programs, another 4, all support 16-bit TIFF files. Pentax's
own RAW converter outputs 16-bit TIFFs for a reason. i'm not in
16-bit/channel mode to be able to see the differences while i am editing,
i'm in the
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From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
did I read that right? 8.2MP and 8.5 frames per second for
40 frames?
Man, I knew Canon was going to respond to the Nikon D2h by
PMA but I didn't think they'd blow it away
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From: John Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know, Tom, we've all done it - but they still do nothing to
me emotionally! I guess I see this sort of shot as maybe
being useful for album or CD covers, but that';s about it.
Am I perhaps a bit of a Philistine
Truly! Perhaps after we get that roll developed? :-) I thought that bridge
would look familiar to someone!
Cheers,
Ryan
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From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: OT: People and Their Bikes #3
Hey
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
did I read that right? 8.2MP and 8.5 frames per second for
40 frames?
Man, I knew Canon was going to respond to the Nikon D2h by
PMA but I didn't think they'd blow it away
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 27, 2004, at 5:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Man, I knew Canon was going to respond to the Nikon D2h by PMA but I
didn't think they'd blow it away like this!
This is actually a little scary...
Why is it scary? I think it's great. It means the
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: OT: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...
From Steve Blumenkranz as posted on the photo.net Leica Photography
board:
Today I received an email from
Like the 1D.
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From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 4:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...
And a larger than APS sensor.
Christian wrote:
did I read that right? 8.2MP and 8.5
I
On Jan 27, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Jim Apilado wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if those shooting digital would like to see the era
of
film end ASAP.
I think there are some photographers who have an unconscious need to
validate their digital purchase. The demise of film would do just that.
Paul
(A digital
Hey guys, is that page available in English anywhere?
tan.
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
did I
Wow ... there are several different ways. Tell you what,
I'll put up a file like I did with converting color to BW
so there will be a permanent reference. But, for the
moment, take a look at the reference Jeff put up. IIR,
that'll be a good start.
Hi Shel,
How do you tone a greyscale image
Doh... I figured it out. It was just something I never tried on a
greyscale file. I'd always do it in RGB. But I just looked under modes,
and there was duotone. The rest was quite simple.
Thanks,
Paul
On Jan 27, 2004, at 10:09 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Wow ... there are several different ways.
There's also a method using layers which is really neat, but
I have to refresh myself on the steps for that one.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Doh... I figured it out. It was just something I never tried on a
greyscale file. I'd always do it in RGB. But I just looked under modes,
and there was
Drinks? Did someone say Drinks?
-frank (suddenly becoming quite interested in what so far has been a pretty
boring thread)
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
You got a
A couple of comments on digital cameras caught my eye.
1) DSLRs are overpriced
The original argument, as I recall was that by technical
(presumably meaning resolution) standards film cameras offer
more quality for less money. By resolution standards this is true,
although the high end DSLRs
Here's one way of looking at it:
My digital camera, at this point, has cost about a dollar and a quarter per
exposure. Because of my bad luck with my LX bodies, which cost about a
dollar and a half per exposure, not including cost of film, this is already
a cost saving over film.
However, I get
I don't know, they seem to be selling quite a few *ist-D's in spite of:
1.) The lack of aperture simulator, (yes that has been partially addressed
which makes it more likely I'll buy one in the near future).
2.) Lack of advertising, at least compared to the Canon and Nikon offerings.
3.)
I am not sure it's Japanese. Could be Chinese just as well.
Anyway it means something I have no English words for, but I will try to
explain it.
It is true that the second character means gas or air, but it can also mean
energy and a quality of the mind.
The first character literally means
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I want to start saving my pictures to DVD instead of CD and need a
question answered.
Can DVDs be written to several times (multi-session) as CDs can?
Or,
should I hold my pictures on my hard drive until I have enough for
a
full DVD burn?
And you can use
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