Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like they know quite a lot. They're currently the biggest comeback story in the camera biz. Not from where I'm viewing it (I probably have far more in depth resources from which to gauge their progress however). -- Rob Studdert

Re: PESO - Echo

2006-10-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thank you sir! Hopefully it provided a short break from this endless thread we are enduring. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, October 13, 2006, 10:33:09 PM, you wrote: This scene just caught my eye with the bright tree out in front and the darker, similar tree back in the shadows. A visual

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator survey,part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth. 1. They did leave FD bodies in production for a few years ( most likely sales fell off so it wasn't economically feasable) In much the same way

Re: The JCO survey Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth. I D I O T - Canon IMPROVED their lensmount. Pentax hasn't. In fact Pentax has made their lensmount WORSE with the DSLRS Because its crippling functions that are still easily

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide Inet

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide Inet Your assumption is maximum depth of field is what is Always needed when its not. With tilts and swings You can entire offset planes in focus with selective (minimal) DOF if

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey No way, I bet they are still a small fraction of total camera Sales. The mainstream is still very heavily digital ps. Umm John, if you go back and read Adam's post, you will note he is talking unit volumes of

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: The JCO survey will, it should be obvious to you that the exact order of decisions doesn't really matter. Perhaps I phrased it poorly. For most of the people I know, the decision to buy a new lens is not dependant on being able to

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: The JCO survey what a strange thought... realize that you may not love Mr. Robb. I thought so too. If that had come from anyone else, I would of been hurt. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT Lets fix the nomenclature, Its an APERTURE CAM SENSOR In my opinion, the word simulator makes no sense at all. Is it allright if i know what it is, and what it does, and still call

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest modeto save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest modeto save bandwidth. 1. Only one body, and it was the cheapest. They killed the F1 and the T90, T80 and T70 off almost immediately after the EOS introduction. Can't sell what

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey You cannot prove this and I cannot prove otherwise But I would bet the demographics of SLR users is Much older than PS shooters because PS has been Mainstream for the past 20 Years while SLRS faded Out at that

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
BWWAAHHHAAHAAAHAA WW - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT When the thread title is stupid I am

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux K/M lens lens functions ARE NOT imcompatible With Pentaxes latest mount. That is what I am talking about. Its both the body and lens Mounts not either. Current mount has NOT

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest modeto save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator survey,part Deaux Now in Digest modeto save bandwidth. I don't want to discuss FD/FL anymore as its not Relevant as I have explained already about 10 times. READ section #2 of my post. So go stand in the

OT - Something interesting I just noticed.....

2006-10-14 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I have been pretty busy lately, and have not been able to post much (or read much) here for the past few weeks. What I noticed as I was pseudo-lurking this evening, is that in my PDML folder there are fifty threads displayed per page, and of the fifty on the current page, only one is a PESO. I

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT John, You Ignorant Slut, Adam, you spelled ignorant correctly. He won't know what you mean. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey Its unethical to disable legacy products without Good cause and there isnt anything cost or technically Or new improvements causing it. You cant say its better for them to Screw prior customers to sell new

Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-14 Thread John Francis
15kc to 20kc isn't even one bit of headroom. I was suggesting leaving four bits of headroom over and above the 12 bits of signal. That's more than enough; an extra six bits will make no difference. (That's why some audio systems go to 40kc - maybe 2 bits of headroom - but not to 10Mhz, which is

Re: OT - Something interesting I just noticed.....

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Russell Kerstetter Subject: OT - Something interesting I just noticed. I have been pretty busy lately, and have not been able to post much (or read much) here for the past few weeks. What I noticed as I was pseudo-lurking this evening, is that in my

Re: Great deal for Canadians!!

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan Subject: Great deal for Canadians!! http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10064635catid=11433logon=langid=EN Out of stock, at the moment. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/10/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now in all honesty John, if you were in the business of manufacturing selling cameras associated equipment which customer would you prefer? Both of course :-) Ha! Dave --

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
Say Pentax did reimplemented the aperture simulator in a future body, you buy the body (for $900, as an example). As a long time Pentax user with a vast collection of K/M glass you're happy as a pig in shit. Pentax on the other hand have sold you a $900 body that's all their going to get. Now

Re: PESO - Echo

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
Very nice Bruce. The light and textures are lovely. It also screams BW conversion candidate to me. Dave On 10/14/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This scene just caught my eye with the bright tree out in front and the darker, similar tree back in the shadows. A visual echo to me.

Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: The JCO survey And this is the point some are try to help you understand. Pentax makes more profit from new users ( long time users) who buy new products accessories, as apposed to the minimal profit they make from longtime

Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-14 Thread Roman
According to one Pentax press release K10D [auto bracket] can automatically create 3 images with different lightness, contrast or saturation, by not making 3 shots, but simply processing image input with higher bit depth. Clever... I remember there's Hasselblad that uses 22-bit A/D conversion,

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lenses that cover the 35mm frame will likely be phased out as soon as Pentax stops making film SLR cameras altogether. Don't forget the D-FA 200 300 on the lens Roadmap I still have hopes for a future Pentax full frame body. Dave -- PDML

Re: FS OT: Need help selling my '68 Mustang

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
It's a shame it's in the States otherwise I'd be seriously tempted. Dave On 10/14/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I got laid off, I need to sell my '68 Mustang, and soon. If ANYone here knows someone who might be even slightly interested, could you forward my craigslist ad to

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)

2006-10-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I bet it hurts to hit your nose like that... Cotty wrote: On 10/13/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often just leave the lens cap on and imagine. I believe you; I've seen your work. cheers, frank Walked straight into that one. Ouch. -- Things should be

Re: PESO: Blue Angels (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love DNG Recover Edges)

2006-10-14 Thread David Mann
On Oct 14, 2006, at 2:18 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Great save! Of course, with film you'd have had a bigger frame to start with ;)) Huh? If the nose was clipped on film, there would be no recovering anything. The edge of the film would be further than the edge of the sensor, so there'd

Re: Great deal for Canadians!!

2006-10-14 Thread Alan Chan
It shows 10xx in stock, but out of stock when checked out. I went ahead placing the order anyway and see what will happen. :-) Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10064635catid=11433logon=langid=EN Out of stock, at

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one were to be technically accurate, then one would understand that an APS-C sized digital sensor represents a different format from 35mm film. The different format being 18x27mm (or whatever, I'm not going to go look it up). This is as

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses that mos

Re: LAST CALL! London PDML This Sunday

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
Just a heads up - Mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: 2 - 2.15pm Location: Outside Camden Town Tube Station Beacon: Cotty - 6'5 with blue cap on Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Highlights: Camden Market, locks and canal, hustle and bustle Names here please 1. Godders

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread John Celio
What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below the competition but not sub US$1000 (which seems to be the current cascade pricing

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/06, Russell Kerstetter, discombobulated, unleashed: btw Cotty, I too only have 99 invitations left, so you had better hurry and make up your mind (although, I suppose that I could invite myself which would give me 198...) If I had the time, I'd have all 99 off you and subscribe them up

Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide Inet

2006-10-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
JCO, It is a waste of time trying to converse with an idiot like you. I will not bother. G On Oct 14, 2006, at 2:13 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: You clueless. First of all there are EXTERIORS As well as interiors where you are going to Need more rise than the shift lenses for medium Format

Re: Open letter to Marnie Eactivist

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I think Cotty's looking for invites... Always. The one I accepted is subscribed to the PDML - this was about a year ago at least. Can't even remember how to access it. Should be filling up nicely -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: LAST CALL! London PDML This Sunday

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/10/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks for organizing, Cotty! All I did was post details as they were mooted :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selling fewer bodies for a higher price would be worse than disappointing a few people by pushing back the ship date, or not being able to meet initial demand. At the very least, people who get their cameras first will create a buzz about the

Re: OT: Calibrated my Monitor

2006-10-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Pretty close to my experience. The Mac OS X software display calibration utility works very well, but a hardware colorimeter improved the curve just enough to make my print output absolutely consistent with what is on the display, every time, and has saved quite a lot of paper and ink. :-)

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/10/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a metaphor for the angst we all feel when confronted by an essentially uncaring universe, and a zeitgeist that celebrates shallow Warholian fame over self-knowledge and the search for being, obviously. You go straight into Pseud's Corner! --

RE: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
A simple apeture cam sensor is not the same as An entire body you twit. It IS economincally Feasable aa it is about a $5 part, remember? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:53 AM To:

RE: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest modeto save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yes. The T90 was a highly desireable camera on the used Market a while back ( still is? I don't know ). I suspect that all of the mint to near mint high End film bodies for FD are still worth good money Even in thise ere of EOS and DSLRS. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No, he implied that the younger crowd was using SLRS more than the old fogies. I did not and still Do not agree. The younger crowd are more likely To not even know what a SLR is let alone buy one Compared to the veterans IMHO... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: LAST CALL! London PDML This Sunday

2006-10-14 Thread Bob W
I'm looking forward to seeing everyone. Today's photo expedition was a nice long trundle through Richmond Park ... exhausting but worth it! It's the rutting season, isn't it? - hope you got some worthwhile shots. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Walkden survey

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Freedom of the press. See, he's not such a bad bloke after all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Yeah back then but not now. And of course we were NOY talking about first time buyers only, we were Talking about all SLR buyers. Of course the first time Buyers are going to be younger than all slr buyers/users. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: The JCO survey Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The two statements do not contradict. Whats your point? Pentax is the one doing this stupid stuff, not me. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re:

RE: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The latest mount doesn't support K/M, that's Doesn't mean K/M was precluded for A/F/FA/DA And its not. You knew that too but continue To make the dumbest replies possible just to Stir up shit. Its pure 100% bullshit and I wish you would Just stop with it. jco -Original Message- From:

Re: PESO: Blue Angels (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love DNG Recover Edges)

2006-10-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 14, 2006, at 8:26 AM, David Mann wrote: On Oct 14, 2006, at 2:18 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Great save! Of course, with film you'd have had a bigger frame to start with ;)) Huh? If the nose was clipped on film, there would be no recovering anything. The edge of the film would

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
No you missed my reply to this. If I have to buy new Pentax Lenses just to get the functions back my current lenses already Have then I am essentially starting from scratch. I would Rather switch to a better system like Canon EOS if I have To do that. The only reason for sticking with pentax

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You are an asshole. You cannot be serious if you think What canon did was worse because it wasn't. Not supporting Lenses by removing a $5 part is far far worse than anything Canon has ever done. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-14 Thread David Mann
On Oct 14, 2006, at 5:20 AM, Gasha wrote: Wide angle is a must for p67. Otherwise, what's the point shooting medium format? Glass is glass... I've shot some of my favourite 6x7 landscapes at 300mm. Having said that I have occasionally found myself wanting a 35mm rectilinear :) - Dave

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-14 Thread David Mann
On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:29 PM, John Celio wrote: The 90mm, if I recall correctly, has a leaf shutter in it which allows for high-speed flash sync. There are two versions: one with a leaf shutter and one without. The 67's normal flash sync is 1/30, I believe (someone correct me if I'm

Re: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)

2006-10-14 Thread David Mann
On Oct 14, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Cotty wrote: I often just leave the lens cap on and imagine. Would that make it a pinhead lens? - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14 October 2006 08:58 To: pentax list Subject: Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a metaphor for the angst we all feel when confronted by an

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-14 Thread David Mann
On Oct 13, 2006, at 11:17 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: What's this lens like? Any good? It's not particularly wide, but I've found one that's affordable. I have one and really like it. I deliberately purchased it over the 105mm as I'm highly fond of the field-of-view of the 43mm lens in

Re: LAST CALL! London PDML This Sunday

2006-10-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Bob W wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing everyone. Today's photo expedition was a nice long trundle through Richmond Park ... exhausting but worth it! It's the rutting season, isn't it? - hope you got some worthwhile shots. Yes it is! Got a good look at one

Re: The Walkden survey

2006-10-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Cotty wrote: On 14/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Freedom of the press. See, he's not such a bad bloke after all. What this means in 'JCO speak' is that he wants the ability to whinge and moan with the same old tired shite ad nauseam.

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple apeture cam sensor is not the same as An entire body you twit. It IS economincally Feasable aa it is about a $5 part, remember? jco $5/unit 13 000 units/month Assuming a 12 month production run: 13 000x12x5 = $780 000 When

Re: PESO - Echo

2006-10-14 Thread keith_w
Bruce Dayton wrote: This scene just caught my eye with the bright tree out in front and the darker, similar tree back in the shadows. A visual echo to me. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 18mm, Handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/13 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_.htm Comments welcome

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest modeto save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:09 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Yes. The T90 was a highly desireable camera on the used Market a while back ( still is? I don't know ). I suspect that all of the mint to near mint high End film bodies for FD are still worth good money Even in thise ere of EOS and DSLRS.

Re: Sample Pic - SMC Pentax M* 67 400mm f4 ED (IF)

2006-10-14 Thread David Mann
On Oct 14, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: And here you go: http://www.members.aol.com/figgaro/400.jpg 'Scuse me, I need to change my trousers. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell
But isnt the Raw capture still only 12 bits And arent most serious users only shooting raw Mode? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:59 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

Re: A Call to STFU About JCO

2006-10-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote: This is a call for everyone to just shut the f*ck up Since you put it so nicely, I will go out of my way. You are such a motivator. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

FS Friday (a bit late, I know)

2006-10-14 Thread Carlos Royo
After selling the A 50 mm. 1.2 and A 15 mm. 3.5, I still have some items left: Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II (for Pentax AF). LN in box, including both caps, hood and instruction manual. A very well made, fast pro zoom. 220 euros. SMC Pentax 85 mm. 1.8 (K series)+ original lens hood, well

Re: FS OT: Need help selling my '68 Mustang

2006-10-14 Thread keith_w
David Savage wrote: It's a shame it's in the States otherwise I'd be seriously tempted. Dave On 10/14/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I got laid off, I need to sell my '68 Mustang, and soon. If ANYone here knows someone who might be even slightly interested, could you

Re: K10D 22 bit A/D conversion

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But isnt the Raw capture still only 12 bits And arent most serious users only shooting raw Mode? The image capture in camera is 22 bits wide, the pixel data is then subjected to gamma transforms, black point adjustment, colour channel gain

Re: 67 90mm f2.8

2006-10-14 Thread Peter Fairweather
The first address is to the Pentax 67 dicussion group on Photo.net. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a?topic_id=35category=Pentax+67 Unfortunately there are no threads on aperture simulators! That makes it a bit slow but of high quality - like the camera itself This chap has done a survey of all

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/14/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple apeture cam sensor is not the same as An entire body you twit. It IS economincally Feasable aa it is about a $5 part, remember? jco $5/unit 13 000 units/month Assuming a

RE: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide Inet

2006-10-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: You clueless. JC I have had enough. Your language is unacceptable. Bye-bye. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT - loss of a PDML member

2006-10-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Shock. My condolences to you and the rest of his family. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread keith_w
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: The JCO survey I am a potential NEW DSLR CAMERA BUYER. I want the feature and am willing to Pay for it. Just because I have legacy Lenses doesn't mean I am not a new customer. I would/will be if they

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread keith_w
J. C. O'Connell wrote: Listen you dumbshit, you said pentax would Be kissing my ass for making a camers with Legacy support, NO THEY WOULDN'T. I would Be paying good money for it and I would be A PENTAX customer. jco John, your continuing childish attitude, as well as your out-of-control

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
You can't be serious saying the removal of the aperture simulator is worse than the complete abandonment of a mount. K/M lenses will still mount to a new Pentax body and you can still take photographs with them. And before you go off and scream at me that Canon improved their mount, I wonder how

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, William Robb wrote: From: Digital Image Studio Subject: Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey On 14/10/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then the legacy will be a register distance that was designed to accommodate 35mm FF image area and lenses

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread keith_w
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: The JCO survey I have read most of this thread, glanced through the rest, and I must admit to being slightly confused. What is it actually about? At this point, I am seeing how long I can yank John's chain

Re: K1D aperture simulator survey, part Deaux Now in Digest mode to save bandwidth.

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/10/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/14/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple apeture cam sensor is not the same as An entire body you twit. It IS economincally Feasable aa it is about a $5

Re: The Walkden survey

2006-10-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/10/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: What this means in 'JCO speak' is that he wants the ability to whinge and moan with the same old tired shite ad nauseam. As is his unassailable right. Then pity us for reading it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

PESO - my first successful pano stitch

2006-10-14 Thread J and K Messervy
This was a series of four shots that ended up being my first successful pano stitch. I'd been trying for ages with different software to get a good stitch and hadn't had any success. This series of shots had everything going against them; rippling water, clouds, foreground detail and far

Re: PESO - my first successful pano stitch

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
Looks good to me James. Was it shot with a tripod or handheld. Dave On 10/14/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was a series of four shots that ended up being my first successful pano stitch. I'd been trying for ages with different software to get a good stitch and hadn't

Re: PESO - my first successful pano stitch

2006-10-14 Thread J and K Messervy
Thanks mate. That one was hand held. - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: PESO - my first successful pano stitch Looks good to me James. Was it shot with a tripod or

Re: Thoughts on the digital format. Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Olympus do that with the 4/3? How are they doing? Maintaining the K mount (to a degree) means that Pentax can crawl back to a 36x24mm sensor body if APS sensor line runs out of steam. 4/3 was destined to fail from the start (and

Re: PESO - my first successful pano stitch

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
Panoramas are a lot of fun, once you get the technicalities worked out. When Rob Studdert was over last year he gave me some very useful practical tutorials for taking pano's. A couple of the results from that shoot are here: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_007/geso_007_2.htm I was

Re: The Walkden survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/10/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: What this means in 'JCO speak' is that he wants the ability to whinge and moan with the same old tired shite ad nauseam. As is his unassailable right. Then pity us for reading it. Finally

Re: The Walkden survey

2006-10-14 Thread David Savage
On 10/14/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/10/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/10/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: What this means in 'JCO speak' is that he wants the ability to whinge and moan with the same old tired shite ad nauseam. As

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: Where is the economic advantage to them to put a feature on a camera of little benefit to a very small % of the user base? One user being willing to buy a feature doesn't make a very rational argument for

RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

2006-10-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why must you continue to use such abusive language. You only prove to the world what a childish moron you are. The point of using the Leica M as a reference was to indicate that focusing is not necessary for certain types of shooting situations. I am talking about shooting WITHOUT focusing, by

Re: The Walkden survey

2006-10-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Oct 14, 2006, at 1:34 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Freedom of the press. Where is that hiding? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - Echo

2006-10-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bruce nice shot. My only little nit is the burnt out sky in the upper left corner.. Adding a little blue, as we discussed a week or so back with another of your photos, might make a nice improvement. A warm-toned BW conversion might be interesting. I can literally see this as a Portiga

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if they go for Pentax now, seeing it as good value for money why won't they go for something else when they have money for quality? Yes, that's what I've been reading amongst these pearls; P is for Pentax is for penny pinching pariahs --

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-14 Thread Gonz
You still have to put in the focal length for SR, the aperture simulator is not going to help you there. In fact, you could make the firmware remember your lens history and let you select from that for much quicker setup when you power on. With the new bodies, you cannot do multi-segment

RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

2006-10-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Who said anything about focusing? See my subsequent post. BTW, I'm not the only one who sometimes shoots in that manner. Cartier-Bresson did, Gary Winogrand did, Robert Capa did, WES did at times, I know Elliott Erwitt did, Weegee did, as did many other great photographers - not that I'm

Re: A Call to STFU About JCO

2006-10-14 Thread Stan Halpin
My father-in-law is 94 years old and going strong. But they did take away his driver's license a couple of years ago. (Didn't stop him from driving of course). But he is still p.o.'d As he tells it, when he got his drivers license for $.50 in 1926, they told him that it was good for life. And

Re: 645D estimated street price - unbeleivable it must be a mistake!

2006-10-14 Thread Stan Halpin
Huh? Pentax started with what are said to be very fine FA-series 645 lenses several years ago, primes and 2-3 good zooms. They were the first medium format camera to go to auto-focus and did it very well. With backward compatibility to the older A lenses. If you mean that they had nothing

Re: OT: Calibrated my Monitor

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'll look for it. If I can find it, I'll send it. If Godders is listening, he'll know where to find it on a Mac. Yo Godders! Paul On Oct 14, 2006, at 1:46 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: Would you care to send me the ICC profile generated for the monitor if you can locate it? I wouldn't mind

Re: OT - Something interesting I just noticed.....

2006-10-14 Thread Christian
Russell Kerstetter wrote: I would also like to be demeaned. Ok. your mother wears combat boots. I also think that we should have a survey: Would you subscribe to AOL if they offered a hi-speed aperture simulator and you could pay with gmail invitations? Silly, Russell. AOL is free now!

Re: Re: OT - Something interesting I just noticed.....

2006-10-14 Thread Russell Kerstetter
Silly, Russell. AOL is free now! does that mean that I do not have to pay for PBS either?!?! man... I *am* silly! russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Dual AF system in DA* lenses ? It seems so :D

2006-10-14 Thread Thibouille
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20442947 Be happy :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K1D aperature simulator survey, part Deaux

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like they know quite a lot. They're currently the biggest comeback story in the camera biz. Not from where I'm viewing it (I probably have far more in depth resources from which to gauge their progress

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