Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Doug Brewer
David Savage wrote: > > You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. > > Dave > I had a 1971 Ford Torino with the smoke signal option. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-09 Thread David Savage
On 1/10/07, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always wondered why they did not import Skyline GTR etc. Might be for a > cost reason? There are companies here that do nothing but import second hand Japanese sports cars (Skyline's, Siliva's etc). They're all over the place. Hell, the recep

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
The logic in you statement just doesn't hold, so how is what you stated any different with the SD card. Maybe the universe of CF cards was just bigger than SD cards. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message reallythatcomplicated)

2007-01-09 Thread Don Williams
That was a mistake. I was typing too fast and didn't check what I'd written. D Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:37 AM, Don Williams wrote: > > >> Every single US website that offers free services, that I have ever >> seen, uses "For Free!" and not "Free" or "Free of Charge" or

Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)

2007-01-09 Thread David Savage
On 1/10/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And, just for clarification, what makes a photo a still life? As far as I'm concerned, the same thing that makes a painting a still life. It's a contrived arrangement of inanimate objects. Bowl of fruit, vase of flowers etc. Cheers, Dave

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> You didn't cut the Boxer dash to bits to fit a GPS unit by chance? ;-) Hell no, real men don't need no stinkin directions ! ;-) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless > On 09/01/07, Kenneth W

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
>The USA is multi ethnic, but if you are an American, you are an American, >first and foremost, and that flag is to die for. Sadly that's the way it use to be. Notice the number of immigrants arriving in the U S of A that want to change the official language, continue traditions from their home

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >The USA is multi ethnic, but if you are an American, you are an American, >first and foremost, and that flag is to die for. Sadly that's the way it use to be. Notice the number of immigrants arriving in the

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> This is getting dangerously close to DSLR/aperture simulator > territory.. With at least on major difference. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless > >> >> From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
The '71 Torino was a design classic. It looked like a tuna sucking wind. Paul -- Original message -- From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > David Savage wrote: > > > > > You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. > > > > Dave > > >

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
>But I assure you all. I'm just curious. It a similar curiosity as I have >towards let us say, Catholic symbols. Symbols interest me. Symbols say a >lot >about a culture, about the mindset. > > >Tim >Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > The flag IS essentially an object of worship. Tom C.

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd say that if you could get the CF card into the slot backwards, without using a sufficient amount of force to destroy the slot, it was incorrectly designed to begin with. I have a card reader with a type II slot where you could possibly incorrectly insert a type one card, (though it doesn't

eggs for photos

2007-01-09 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Pentaxians I just have eaten 3 ultrafresh eggs out of 6 I got today as some sort of payment for a few photos I made last summer. I went onto a hill nearby to test an M 42 350mm Soligor lens on the Pentax SFXn and took photos of some free running chicken and rabbits in a garden. I gave the photos

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless > The '71 Torino was a design classic. It looked like a tuna sucking wind. Ran like one too. HAR!!! William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > I'd say that if you could get the CF card into the slot backwards, > without using a sufficient amount of force to destroy the slot, it was > incorrectly designed to begin with. I have a card read

RE: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
Excellent Paul! Tom C. > >I did some pics at the North American International Auto Show today. >I have a lot of pics and have only processed a few. The K10D was nice >to work with. Shot most of it handheld with SR turned on. Great >camera for events in indoor venues. Here's a Mustang show car. I

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Maybe they're still in denial? Isn't that somewhere in Egypt? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > At 12:15 AM 10/01/2007, Christian wrote: >>David Savage wrote: >> > Depends which flag & where the fence o

RE: OT: Has anyone photographed, or at least seen, this UFO?

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
I've been looking but it's been overcast the last several days, except for today. Today however, there was clouds right on the eastern horizon. Tom C. >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: OT: Has anyone photographed,

RE: OT: Has anyone photographed, or at least seen, this UFO?

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
There's also a gallery here... http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page2.htm Hoping tomorrow! Tom C. >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: OT: Has anyone photographed, or at least seen, this UFO? >Date: T

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > The logic in you statement just doesn't hold, so how is what you stated > any > different with the SD card. > Maybe the universe of CF cards was just bigger than SD cards. The universe is full

Re: PESO - Man's Intrusion

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
So are you saying that without a title it hits the mark? This is something that I intend to revisit and see if I can improve upon this at all. -- Bruce Tuesday, January 9, 2007, 5:55:42 AM, you wrote: SB> I think I understand what you're trying to do with this one, but, imo, it SB> misses the

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hopefully it will remain so Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kenneth Waller > > This is getting dangerously close to > > DSLR/aperture simulator territory.. > > With at least on major difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)

2007-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, is "contrived" the key here? Shel > [Original Message] > From: David Savage > > And, just for clarification, what makes a photo a still life? > > As far as I'm concerned, the same thing that makes a painting a still life. > > It's a contrived arrangement of inanimate objects. Bowl of fruit

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: RE: PESO - American Fence > > The flag IS essentially an object of worship. > Every now and again, you are so succinct. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Is it really sad Ken? The U.S. became great by the work of many pulling together to make thing better for the whole. Now it seems we have groups of immigrants, among others, that come to the U.S. but bring along their customs & traditions from their home land and expect the rest of us to adap

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> Talk to anyone who worked within the retail industry and they will have > some > sort of horror story about bent pins on CF cards. I don't doubt that for a minute. My question is why are CF cards "more prone" to issues than the SD card? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Wil

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >> Is it really sad Ken? > > The U.S. became great by the work of many pulling together to make thing > better for the whole. Now it seems we have groups of immigrants, among > others, that come to the U.S. b

RE: FS: my *ist DS + DA18-55mm

2007-01-09 Thread Y. Rowe
EekBay may have done you more of a favor than you know. Have you considered the fact that the other bidders may have been linked to the 'winner'? Their investigation may have shown this. Good luck selling it! Yolanda > On 1/5/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in response to: > > > On 1/

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread DagT
In case you haven´t noticed there are two strong symbols on this picture. The fence and the flag, and as the light suggests that we are the outside it is easy to read that the US is closed. It does not want the outside world to come in .-) DagT Den 9. jan. 2007 kl. 01.49 skrev Tim Øsleby:

Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty) > So, is "contrived" the key here? It could be just a casual arrangement: http://pug.komkon.org/00ma/fruits1.html Or something a bit more contrived: http://pug.komkon.org/02apr/ma

Re: Sigma 500 DG Super

2007-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 1/08/07 6:48 PM, "David J Brooks", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> even if Gentec >> did finally call this afternoon. > > They are probably pounded by U.S. Office. If so, it is really bad. Even if > not, from what you have been reporting, you have

Re: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
Super shot Paul. Nice angle and just enough "sparkle" on the body. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I did some pics at the North American International Auto Show today. > I have a lot of pics and have only processed a few. The K10D was nice > to work with. Shot most of it handh

Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
I used a tripod more in the past than I do now. While shooting portraits, I found that the tripod robbed me of spontaniety - the expressions on the faces changed all the time and by the time I had adjusted the tripod, I would miss it. I found it much easier to be able to move a bit and adjust qui

Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........

2007-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
All my pentax af lenses work on mine. My Sigma 300 f4 works, but i have another that i have noit tried. I'll check it. Dave Quoting jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Finally got My K10D today YAH > > but my Sigma 24-70 zoom won't work with it. Won't auto focus, won't > auto anything

Re: PESO - Eagle And Flag

2007-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
I like it. Great detail and sharpness to it. Dave Quoting Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Not a shot of found objects, I made this: > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/flag.jpg > > A composite shot - the bird was taken with A Pz-1p and A* 400mm f2.8, > AF500FTZ flash. The flag was a little

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >- Original Message - >From: "Tom C" Subject: RE: PESO - American Fence > > > > > > The flag IS essentially an object of worship. > > > >Every now and again, you are so succinct. > >William Robb > > I had written several sentences more, but they

Re: 77 Ltd

2007-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
I used the thread as a crutch.:-) I hope mine comes before Jine 2. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> Everyone happy with their's.?? >> >> Dave >> >> Equine Photography in York Region >> >> > Tsk, tsk, tsk, > > Dave, do you really have to ask that? It and the 31 Limited are > probably my

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Bismark. DagT wrote: > Are you citing Saddam or Bush? > > >> Fra: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> If we can't have respect then fear will have to do... >> >> William Robb wrote: >> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>> >>

Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty)

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence (the process of creativty) >Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:27:35 -0600 > > >- Original Message - >From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: PESO - American

Re: GFM: Nature Photography Weekend reminder - ONLY 10 DAYS TO GO

2007-01-09 Thread Cotty
I had a lovely surprise when I got home from work tonight - an envelope from the USA with a stencil of the Mile High Bridge on it, containing a receipt for my deposit for GFM :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: PESO - Man's Intrusion

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
Sort of my thoughts, too. I'll probably revisit and see if I can improve on the shot. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 9, 2007, 12:24:00 AM, you wrote: MM> It reminds me of the ugly expressway bridge the built directly over the MM> river Sihl here in the city of Zurich. MM> A good exam

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The U.S. became great by the work of many pulling > together to make thing > better for the whole. Now it seems we have groups of > immigrants, among > others, that come to the U.S. but bring along their > customs & traditions > from their home

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated)

2007-01-09 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 04:07:41PM +0100, Thibouille wrote: > I think those are nice example but they do not generate any buzz in my brain. > > Variations like Elevator/Lift are more notable and Through / Thru is > like touching Reset button of my computer. Same with Night/Nite ... I > feel like t

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
> I had written several sentences more, but they really didn't magnify the > point. :-) That hasn't stopped some PDML'ers in the past. ;-) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: >> Talk to anyone who worked within the retail industry and they will >> have >> some >> sort of horror story about bent pins on CF cards. > > I don't doubt that for a minute. My question is why are CF cards "more > prone" to issues than the SD

RE: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Tom. -- Original message -- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Excellent Paul! > > Tom C. > > > > > >I did some pics at the North American International Auto Show today. > >I have a lot of pics and have only processed a few. The K10D was nice > >to work w

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message reallythat complicated)

2007-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/1/07, Don Williams, discombobulated, unleashed: >But while US spelling may be more sensible, Exactly in what way? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: GFM: Nature Photography Weekend reminder - ONLY 10 DAYS TO GO

2007-01-09 Thread David J Brooks
I thought you we're opposed to stencil research.:-) Dave Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I had a lovely surprise when I got home from work tonight - an envelope > from the USA with a stencil of the Mile High Bridge on it, containing a > receipt for my deposit for GFM :-) > > -- > > > Cheers

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/1/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Wasn't that way previously. Immigrants came to the U S of S & quickly became >Americanized. Americanised :-0 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks Godfrey, some pretty obvious things which I've never noticed/paid attention to. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? > > On Jan 9, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > >>> Talk to any

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: PESO - American > Fence > > > >> Is it really sad Ken? > > > > The U.S. became great by the work of many pulling > together to make thing > > better for the whole. Now it seems w

Re: GFM: Nature Photography Weekend reminder - ONLY 10 DAYS TO GO

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
>I thought you we're opposed to stencil research.:-) He was but I hear he aborted. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GFM: Nature Photography Weekend reminder - ONLY 10 DAYS TO GO >I thought you we're opposed to stencil research

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message reallythat complicated)

2007-01-09 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: > On 9/1/07, Don Williams, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> But while US spelling may be more sensible, > > Exactly in what way? > We got rid of all those extra "u"s (color, favor, honor, etc.) Imagine the savings in ink! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDM

Re: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Dave. A lot of auto show displays have too much glare for good photography. Whoever does the Ford displays lights the cars well. (However, I did have to isolate the front of the car and pump up the brightness a bit.) -- Original message -- From: David J Bro

Re: PESO - Man's Intrusion

2007-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Mmmm ... not exactly. What I am saying is that the title takes away from what I think you're trying to do with this, and that while it may be stronger without the title, revisiting the scene and working with it some more may garner a stronger result and greater impact. After thinking about the pi

Re: OT: How many mobile phones have you destroyed?

2007-01-09 Thread Margus Männik
Hi, I've destroyed hundreds of 'em. When I went to my current work, one of my first tasks was to destroy phones, that came through requalification tests (drop, heat-cold cycles etc) and couldn't be sold to to customer. Besides that I have drown one while boating. There is a certain reason, why w

Yet Another Enablement, minor this time ;-)

2007-01-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Having bought the K10D I made my small photo bag obsolete. Simply put, if I were to put in there the K10D with Tamron 28-75 attached, it would mean virtually no space for anything else. So I shelled out some money and bought myself a LowePro Orion Trekker II - which is half photo bag half regular b

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
You are not even worth arguing with. Iran Iraq War Causalities: Iran = 1/2 Million Military, (God only knows how many civilian) Iraq = 1/3 Million Military. Before you say the US supplied Saddam here's a list of the top 5 suppliers of Military hardware to Iraq and the tonnages... Soviet Union

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I think it has been. Once the Europeans came here, Eden became endangered ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Brendan MacRae > The idea that America is an "endangered > Eden." It isn't, of course. It never has been. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailm

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Comments interspersed below. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Brendan MacRae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > --- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The U.S. became great by the work of many pulling >> together to make thing >> better for

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated)

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Neither Thru nor Nite is correct in any variation of English, I know of. Thibouille wrote: > I think those are nice example but they do not generate any buzz in my brain. > > Variations like Elevator/Lift are more notable and Through / Thru is > like touching Reset button of my computer. Same with

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread DagT
Which doesn´t really help much. Den 9. jan. 2007 kl. 18.41 skrev P. J. Alling: > Bismark. > > DagT wrote: >> Are you citing Saddam or Bush? >> >> >>> Fra: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> If we can't have respect then fear will have to do... >>> >>> William Robb wrote: >>> - Or

Trent Parke

2007-01-09 Thread Bob W
Hi, Trent Parke is a very interesting Australian Magnum Photographer (the only Aussie in Magnum, I think). He has an exhibition coming up in London, and a private view and talk. Details below. Well worth looking at his work, which is like magical realism. Regards Bob

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Which confederate flag. The official flag, or the battle flag, (which never had an official standing, as far as I know), but was used to minimize confusion between the "Stars and Stripes" and the "Stars and Bars"). I doubt most minorities would even recognize the "Stars and Bars", which as a "

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message reallythat complicated)

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Us spoken language strangeness often comes from the differing syntax of other languages, which becomes colloquialisms in time... Don Williams wrote: > There is nothing wrong with US English spelling; or UK English spelling > either. But while US spelling may be more sensible, US spoken English i

eggs for photos

2007-01-09 Thread Walter Hamler
"Hi Pentaxians I just have eaten 3 ultrafresh eggs out of 6 I got today as some sort of payment for a few photos I made last summer." Hey Markus, that sound like the good old days to me!! That was the way folks got through life on a daily basis a hundred years ago. Maybe we would all be better o

Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
In the US you buy them in a bubble pack and pay cash... Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 10/01/07, Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I registered my home phone in a totally fictitious name. Anyone who >> asks for that person only hears the click as I hang up. >> > > Amazing, eve

Re: PESO: Show Pony

2007-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
K.Takeshita wrote: > On 1/09/07 10:27 AM, "Adam Maas", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Frankly, I'd rather have a Nissan Silvia, Fairlady or Skyline than any Pony >>Car. Cubic Inches are fun, handling is more fun. > > > I was talking about the nostalgia in a different era. Since mid 80's for

Re: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phone message really thatcomplicated)

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
I think they are often used poetically. According to this, they are correct variations: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thru http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nite Tom C. >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd rather have a Canada to our north than a collection of bickering balkanized ethnic enclaves dominated by a pseudo French republic that the French look down on, but hey it's your country. William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: PESO - American

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Just a note, but the Ba'ath Arab Socialist Party was founded (by a Lebanese Christian Arab) as an explicit pan-Arab take on National Socialism. Yes, that makes Baby Assad the last true fascist dictator. -Adam Now, hopefully Godwin's Law ensues. P. J. Alling wrote: > You are not even worth arg

RE: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Kenneth Waller > Sent: 09 January 2007 17:23 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > > Is it really sad Ken? > > The U.S. became great by the work of many pulling toget

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
America before the Europeans was no Eden. There was an interesting article in the New York Times a couple of weeks ago concerning the mythology of the native Americans vs. the reality. The reality, in many cases, was rape, child molestation and sacrifice and even cannibalism. Running Bear and Li

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Kenneth Waller wrote: >>The USA is multi ethnic, but if you are an American, you are an American, >>first and foremost, and that flag is to die for. > > > Sadly that's the way it use to be. Notice the number of immigrants arriving > in the U S of A that want to change the official language, con

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
What it stand for, not the flag itself. (Though many mistake it for that). Tom C wrote: >> But I assure you all. I'm just curious. It a similar curiosity as I have >> towards let us say, Catholic symbols. Symbols interest me. Symbols say a >> lot >> about a culture, about the mindset. >> >> >> T

Re: PESO - Man's Intrusion

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I find the scene a little too ordinary, a little too busy, and a little underwhelming in establishing a contrasting context to be worth of a grandiose title like "Man's Intrusion". Sure, it's a pretty common scene of not-very-pretty pilings, but so what? It's a jumble of bits of trees and s

RE: OT Question (was Re: OT Is returning a phonemessage reallythatcomplicated)

2007-01-09 Thread Bob W
When I studied linguistics it was drilled into us that there isn't really any such thing as 'correct' grammar. Nevertheless, my previous schooling had instilled certain things into me, and one of the Americanisms I wince at (or, at which I wince!) is 'the secret to ...'. For example, 'the secret

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Tom C
> >I think what Ken is descibing is Nativism, not >xenophobia. The idea that America is an "endangered >Eden." It isn't, of course. It never has been. But we >live in a time of powerlessness of the masses. >-Brendan > It may simply be summed up by saying many people prefer either 1) the status

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Which of those? There were at least 3 official flags, and two variants of the better-known battle flag. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > Which confederate flag. The official flag, or the battle flag, (which > never had an official standing, as far as I know), but was used to > minimize confusion b

RE: eggs for photos

2007-01-09 Thread Bob W
You're just like Atticus Finch! -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Markus Maurer > Sent: 09 January 2007 16:51 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: eggs for photos > > Hi Pentaxians > I just have eaten 3 ultrafresh eggs

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Nativism is a form of xenophobia. Ken describes assimilation. Those who don't wish to assimilate should go to Canada... Brendan MacRae wrote: > --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: PESO - American >> Fence >>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Christian
P. J. Alling wrote: > Which confederate flag. The official flag, or the battle flag, (which > never had an official standing, as far as I know), but was used to > minimize confusion between the "Stars and Stripes" and the "Stars and > Bars"). Yes, I understand the deal with the battle flag (w

Re: Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread frank theriault
On 1/8/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > England, of course. > > A civilising force for the good of all mankind. Welcomed with open > arms the world over for several hundred years, our friendly dominion > was universally loved by the people of all nations who invited us to > govern their help

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread frank theriault
On 1/9/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't hate foreigners, but I detest their efforts to bring their country > with them. Don't think "country", think culture. Everyone who's come to North America has imported their culture with them, from the first Asians who came across

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: >David Savage wrote: >> >> You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal option. > >I had a 1971 Ford Torino with the smoke signal option. Wasn't that a Pinto? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: How does one unlock an SD card??

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: How does one unlock an SD card?? >> Talk to anyone who worked within the retail industry and they will have >> some >> sort of horror story about bent pins on CF cards. > > I don't doubt that for a minute. My question is why are C

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > I'd rather have a Canada to our north than a collection of bickering > balkanized ethnic enclaves dominated by a pseudo French republic that > the French look down on, but hey it's your country. Pull your he

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread pnstenquist
No, Pinto's were available with the barbecue option. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Doug Brewer wrote: > > >David Savage wrote: > >> > >> You shouldn't have been so tight and sprung for the smoke signal > option. > > > >I had

Re: Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Re: PESO - American Fence > > Who, then, should we Canadians write to, in order to give thanks for > you and your countrymen for all you've done for us to make us the > respected world power that we are today? Pierre Trudeau. W

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread Brendan MacRae
Well, yes, good point. But I was referring to the point of view of Nativists who claim to be "true Americans," vis-a-vis their fellow immigrants. The idea that it's "those others" that endager "us" rather than the point of view of true Native Americans (to whom all whites were a threat) which is w

Re: Yet Another Enablement, minor this time ;-)

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Having bought the K10D I made my small photo bag obsolete. Simply put, > if I were to put in there the K10D with Tamron 28-75 attached, it > would mean virtually no space for anything else. So I shelled out some > money and bought myself a LoweP

Re: Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread frank theriault
On 1/9/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pierre Trudeau. > Woops, he's dead. Who? Oh, you mean St. Pierre, saviour of our country. Actually, I was looking to thank our former imperial masters for all they did for us in organizing and preparing us for nationhood, and pushing us in t

Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Thibouille
Here are a couple observations since I took time to play a bit with external flash on my K10D. I have no other flash to test to compare results. * Exposure seems to be mostly OK (PTTL mode). At least way better than RTF which tends to overexpose (based on my short experience since I have had my K1

Re: Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Re: PESO - American Fence > > Actually, I was looking to thank our former imperial masters for all > they did for us in organizing and preparing us for nationhood, and > pushing us in the right direction to statehood. Consideri

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I stand corrected, I did not realize that the South had adopted a variation of it's battle flag as a national flag. I therefore withdraw my statement. I find any flag dedicated to the destruction of the Union, and the preservation of slavery an abomination. Happy now? Though I still doubt t

Re: Strange 360FGZ behaviour with K10D

2007-01-09 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 1/9/07, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here are a couple observations since I took time to play a bit with > external flash on my K10D. I have no other flash to test to compare > results. Thibouille, I have the same setup, so I'll follow along here. > > * Mode selection on the flash i

Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........

2007-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > Sigma makes nice stuff, apart from the electronics. I try and avoid > any sigma product with electronics in it. The 30/1.4 is making it > hard though. All the modern lenses have electronics in them. Their build quality on lenses is the most va

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Aw. you don't love me any more? William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > > >> I'd rather have a Canada to our north than a collection of bickering >> balkanized ethnic enclaves dominated by a pseudo French republic that >>

Re: PESO - American Fence

2007-01-09 Thread P. J. Alling
I think that describes many "Native American's" quite well There is some evidence that those who emigrated from Asia during the last ice age weren't the first, but it doesn't fit the stereotype so this evidence is sometimes suppressed. The current natives may have actually displaced earlier r

Re: Ford and Microsoft go wireless

2007-01-09 Thread Perry Pellechia
Paul, I think you are full of beans on this one. On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, Pinto's were available with the barbecue option. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Doug Brewer wrote: > > > >

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