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In a message dated 8/7/01 12:55:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< The Vivitar is a fine lens, so you might think of it as an alterative.
James >>
Hey James. I've never seen or used your Vivitar, but I do own their Series 1
70-210 macro, circa 1984, a verp sharp, crisp
How many DINK(S) (Double Income, No Kid(s) PDML members are there beside me
and my wife?
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In a message dated 8/6/01 10:33:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
The reason that I'm asking is because I'd like to get some compact lenses
for hiking so that I can have a wide variety of focal options without alot
of bulk or weight. >>
Regardless of what you've been
In a message dated 8/6/01 7:41:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Anyway, I'm wondering what all of your opinions are concerning mirror
lenses in this focal area? The second option would be to use one of Pentax's
300 (I would prefer the F* for tripod mount), so my secon
In a message dated 8/6/01 6:47:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Do they make a cable that allows it to be used with the AF400T? Those
six AAs just don't cut it, and I haven't been able to find the big Pentax
battery.
Paul >>
Six fresh Eveready Lithiums will shoot up
In a message dated 8/2/01 8:52:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> A working professional
> could work very nicely with this lens plus the FA80-200 f2.8. They would
> cover most focal lengths with prime quality.
But only if he/she had a
In a message dated 8/2/01 1:22:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<<
Yesterday, I read in Shaw's "Closeups in Nature" how to calibrate the
camera's meter with sunny 16, and I found amazing that you can actually take
pictures without using a meter, I think I'm veeery slooo
In a message dated 8/1/01 1:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Well, whoever posted it did so on May 17, 2000, more than 14 months before
this current fracus and is sandwiched between posts on May 15, 2000 & May
20, 2000. In other words, it has nothing to do with the
In a message dated 8/1/01 12:19:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Glenn!
>>
I'll wager he didn't appreciate that.
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In a message dated 7/31/01 11:50:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Mafud,
I'm not you. Careful examination of the headers will probably
identify me, and will almost certainly narrow the list of
suspects down, but _casual_ reading of this message, if I've
done it r
In a message dated 7/31/01 11:15:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< You stepped in something Mafud..
Not only can I set my return address to ANYTHING.. including YOUR address
old boy,
but I went to the site they were yackking about & it trusts the user to
supply
In a message dated 7/31/01 9:09:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Sorry Hoya. I have never seen a Hoya filter, just the
only opinion I had heard about them (from this list)
was that they were junk. But then, I use COZO filters
and are extremely happy with them, whereas
In a message dated 7/31/01 8:35:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Subj: I am sorry.
Date: 7/31/01 8:35:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (petit miam)
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In a message dated 7/31/01 7:36:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Talking of "looking without seeing", Mafud - take a look at the
return address in the message you replied to; the message that
asks you if you are sure that only you could post a message with
Zawadimed
In a message dated 7/31/01 6:09:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Are you quite sure of that? >>
Having fun, juvenile delinquent?
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Subj:Re: Professional?
Date: 7/31/01 5:44:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<>
Regards,
Bob.
Since it's ~my~ reputation in question, (at least ~you~ already ~think~ I'd
do such a thing), I've attac
Mafud,
I'm not you. Careful examination of the headers will probably
identify me, and will almost certainly narrow the list of
suspects down, but _casual_ reading of this message, if I've
done it right (and it's not something I've done often enough
to be practiced at), should be enough to make
>> You are correct, Mafud. If a list has a membership and to become part of the
list requires that the email address be verified, it is not possible
to
spoof the address. This is why we assume with some confidence (though
not
complete) that the post was yours. I found it humorous, just
lighthearte
Mafud wrote:
>
> The real Mafud writes:
> > What post? Any post from Zawadimedia would be a post from me. How could
> > anyone else use my email address? They might sign "Mafud" but ~could not
> > include~ Zawadimedia as a return address.
>
> Are you q
list with a fictitious URL, when your mail address gets a confirmation email
asking if it is ~you~ who asked to subscribe?
~That~ is what ~I~ meant.
<< Are you saying you *did* make that post? >>
What post? Any post from Zawadimedia would be a post from me. How could
anyone else us
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:49:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
But who on earth are they? >>
Ahh, the "generation gap" rears its head.
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In a message dated 7/29/01 6:28:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
One of the things that I find most interesting about you - or at least
your on line personality - is that you have a decided lack of humor.
Lighten up, relax, and enjoy, rather than fight, the camarade
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:47:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< > But what makes you think I'd ever involve myself in "you show me yours,
I'll
> show you mine" endeavors?
erhhmmm - credibility SOMETHING to justify all that hot air...
>>
Credibility? From who
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:24:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Subj: Re: Professional
Date: 7/29/01 6:24:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shel Belinkoff)
<>
You quote me below, read it,
<>
Wrong. I ~~Never~~ talk about my work, I w
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:58:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Heck girl, not only is it the worlds oldest
profession, but it is a lot like professional
photography.
You have to do shows, competitions, smooze with
the local artists, show
biz people, local publishe
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:24:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< So show us your web page stuff. >>
What, you and Robb can't read? My post specifically referenced "in October".
And again, why do you and Robb ~insist~ on being childish, "you show me
yours, I'll show y
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:10:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
That would be some urban legend, the F3 was
introduced in 1980, fully 5 years after the
Americans evacuated Saigon in 1975. >>
Parsing minutiae are we? Unlike you, I've never, ~ever~ ~held~ a Nikon, so
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:16:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Actually, rather than continuing the lets see
who is stupid enough to piss into the wind
contest, >>
But..but, ~you~ started the contest.
Besides, I'm still learning the 67ll ~and~ how to shoot mediu
In a message dated 7/29/01 6:18:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Can I count on you for this?? >>
Yes, snide one.
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In a message dated 7/29/01 11:45:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< And it's likely to be much worse if you go into it with a defensive or
confrontative attitude, where you assume that competition means animosity.
I'm sure this is often the case, as most people have ver
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:31:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I'll take a Leica M2, a couple of lenses, and whip both your butts. >>
Probably, but by your statement, haven't ~you~ also joined in the "macho"
talk?
Shame on you!
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In a message dated 7/29/01 11:31:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< his puffing of male egos is ridiculous. Mafud, let's see some of
your work. I don't believe you've ever contributed to the PUG
gallery, nor have you ever posted a photo, or a URL to a photo, that
you'
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:18:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< For the record, I think this is a load of horse droppings.
I have seen more pro photographers who don't know what the hell they are
doing out there ruining peoples weddings, and taking bad portraits than
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:16:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< So, I'm curious - if you had one camera, one body,
any brand, any model, new or old - which would it be, and why? If you
care to mention which lenses you'd take, that's fine too. >>
Canon EOS 1n-RS and
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:08:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< What I was calling "fuzzy" was not the build of a "pro" camera.
What's _fuzzy_ are the boundaries of "who counts as a pro" or "what kinds of
pro do we mean" when we discuss "cameras used by profesionals"
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:10:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Depends on the type of photography. Enter "BDSM"
into google for examples of what Mafud is
talking about. >>
It's the dust in your ears and your clouded corneas which won't let you see
or hear what I w
In a message dated 7/29/01 11:08:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< And I will continue to use the 6x7 >>
I'll see you your 67 and raise you my now two-year-old PENTAX 67ll.
I ignore other formats on this list in that the talk is nearly 100% 35 mm.
Thus ~my~ references
In a message dated 7/29/01 9:58:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< It happens (FWIW) to be a N Ftn, 'cause when I first became interested
in photography in the mid- to late-60's, and actually had aspirations to be a
photojournalist, that seemed to be what all the "pr
In a message dated 7/29/01 8:44:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<<
So we have one subjective meaning, one arbitrary meaning, and
the closest we get to an objective standard is a closely
related (not the same) concept with _fuzzy_boundaries_. >>
There is nothing "fuz
In a message dated 7/29/01 8:42:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
I didn't know that being a professional (or any other type) or photographer
had to do with "whipping butts". >>
Not literally at least but in quality of images, product output and
production value wise
In a message dated 7/29/01 3:33:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< William Robb writes:
> I am wondering what browsers people are using for viewing the PUG. If you
would
> kindly click here and tell me what version of which browser you are using,
Click where?
In a message dated 7/29/01 3:32:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< ><< The professionalism is in the photographer, not the camera. :-) >>
>
>OK, if it's ~that~ simple, ~you~ use the disposable and I'll use the MZ-S.
>I'll whip your butt everyday and twice on Sundays.
In a message dated 7/29/01 1:50:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< The professionalism is in the photographer, not the camera. :-) >>
OK, if it's ~that~ simple, ~you~ use the disposable and I'll use the MZ-S.
I'll whip your butt everyday and twice on Sundays.
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In a message dated 7/28/01 9:47:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< So, I've try and use many different pano-programs but still have problems
with opposite sort of software - objects modeling/viewing. >>
MGI PhotoSuite lll (Platinum Edition).
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In a message dated 7/28/01 9:23:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< On Saturday 28 July 2001 16:36, you wrote:
> Gosh, I thought professional only meant, its your way of earning an
> income, I didn't realise it is so complicated!
>
> Frits >>
You wouldn't make light o
In a message dated 7/26/01 6:25:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I would like to take some sporting photos, I have a 500mm lens
but I think I would need something a little more powerful to
get from one end of the playing field to the other. >>
I used to shoot Polo (a
In a message dated 7/25/01 1:47:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Not too tough, I imagine a good scanner at it's highest settings will put
out a file that big from the negative. However, I doubt that doing a scan
at that higher resolution is going to gain much when
In a message dated 7/25/01 2:15:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
> He didn't say it was useful image data :-)
>
> ...
>
> Claiming a cheap disposable camera can do that well is hyperbole.
>
>
Exactly what I thought. >>
Please explain to us all exactly ~w
In a message dated 7/25/01 12:49:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I'd like to know how you work that one out... >>
But "Dr. Digi" ought to know!
How many MB of data in a small format CCD or CMOS-3? 6?
Even interpolated, it only works out to 12 MB or so.
Some 1 pass
In a message dated 7/25/01 12:20:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Welcome back Mafud! >>
Right back atcha Tom!
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In a message dated 7/25/01 10:08:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Given the resolution, storage requirements, power consumption etc - when
would the digital photo technology equal film based?
Is it possible to make a rough assumption of how many times better the
techn
In a message dated 7/25/01 10:04:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Mafud,
You cannot take them seriously or personally. >>
You're right of course.
Mafud
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In a message dated 7/25/01 9:25:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Most photographers I have known personally didn't use professional
cameras. In fact it was the dilettantes, Amateurs gifted or not who had the
most expensive 'professional' equipment. >>
Our experienc
In a message dated 7/25/01 3:01:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Subj: Re: OT-- population control
>>Your inference that it doesn't bother me is without merit.<<
Why then did you post it?
>>Every damn bit of it bothers me, on every level.<<
That is hard to beleive
In a message dated 7/25/01 2:54:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
an SPII in Winnipeg would sell for $100-$125, as a rule. People would
probably pay more, but the local stores keep the prices pretty low. >>
An SP with an ~f/1.4~ lens for $125? Is that Canadian?
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In a message dated 7/25/01 2:45:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Anyway, I had gone down to take a look for K lenses and for anything else
that might turn up. I spotted an SP II in A1 condition, with a nice SMC Tak
1:1.4 50mm lens, all for $179 CDN. Is this reasonable
In a message dated 7/24/01 11:18:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Welcome to Mafud land again. >>
Bob, your complaint was addressed to me specifically and so, I thought I
would answer.
As for further comments from me on this OT thread: anything I had to say to
the o
In a message dated 7/24/01 1:17:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Crack babies. let em die & sterilize not only the mother but her
parents for raising such trash. >>
I ~personally~ resent your entire comment.
There is no such thing as a "crack baby," but babies who
In a message dated 7/24/01 12:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< My point
was that if this extra 5 secs is that important then a single body is
stupid and you should change film between races! >>
Yah, we PJs many times switched film just to be sure not to run out or
In a message dated 7/24/01 12:15:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< As a workaround, someone else has said that you cab get 1/3 compensation
by overriding the ISO. Personally, my metering is not that accurate so
1/2 stop will do for me.
Alternatively, you could go to
In a message dated 7/24/01 7:27:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Its bloody unique because its the only lightweight, well built AF slr on
the market. It also sports a totally unique user interface. While cameras
like the EOS3 and F100 + Dynaxx 9 thread the same territo
In a message dated 7/24/01 7:18:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< The Pentax MZ-S is a well-crafted, wonderfully designed camera with
control layuout of its own. I don't think pro photographers will rush
to grab it (but a few might) mainly because most pros already u
In a message dated 7/23/01 6:57:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Anybody who thinks the 20th century was a century of
enlightenment and progress is going through life with blinders
on. There were more wars fought, more acts of genocide,
starvation, and exploitation
In a message dated 7/23/01 10:37:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Welcome back!
(Got any photos of the scar?)
- >>
Just because ~I~ think it's pretty, doesn't mean I'll ~show~ it.
Besides, no small format could capture the length of it, since it goes from
crotch t
In a message dated 7/23/01 3:32:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
*MY* 70~200 plus 2x adapter (Kalimar) is WAY too slow, so
I'm considering a mirror lens (plus I won't need to run out &
buy a TiltAll tri-pod to support a mile-long lens). >>
I'd recommend against us
In a message dated 7/22/01 11:42:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Affordability issues rule out purchasing a fast, long (300-400mm)lens, so
I've chosen to look for length rather than speed. Does this seem sensible?
>>
It seems your chosen film may be of the sl
In a message dated 7/22/01 12:32:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>You're looking at that with hindsight. It was built with the
techniques and technology of the time. I suspect the
designers and builders were not aware of the changes that
would take place. But yet, th
In a message dated 7/22/01 11:40:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
How's the list rate my Cosmicar A-70~200 1:4 Macro??? >>
I used to be able to tell the story of Cosmicar, but have completely
forgotten.
1. They shoot, ~look~ and feel like PENTAX.
2. They make ~cr
In a message dated 7/21/01 8:21:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Optimist. No debate ever gets finished here. Arguments just get
recycled. >>
So true.
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<< Subj: Re: More Tripod Follies?
Date: 7/21/01 8:05:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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In a message dated 7/21/01 8:04:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< Subj: RE: Semi-OT: Pickpockets & oops.
Date: 7/21/01 8:04:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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In a message dated 7/21/01 9:57:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<< Welcome back Mafud.
Dan Scott
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Hey Dan!
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<< Personally, I believe that this is the camera the Limited lenses are
leading up to. >>
I agree Pål.
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<<
Welcome back, Mafud. I hope you're in fine health.
Doug >>
Hey Doug, thanks!
Yep, fit as a fiddle!
Mafud
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In a message dated 7/20/01 5:11:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
""When I started photographing, I followed the advice that a tripod should
be used whenever possible. I'm a pretty healthy guy, so "whenever
possible" translates to just about all the time. I'm slowly weanin
In a message dated 7/20/01 5:08:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< Subj: Re: More Tripod Follies?
Date: 7/20/01 5:08:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom)
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In a message dated 7/20/01 4:35:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< Subj: Re[2]: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 18
Date: 7/20/01 4:35:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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In a message dated 7/20/01 1:21:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< Mike Johnston prompted a flood with this question:
>
> Okay, I've got a question to pose to everybody/anybody, just for fun:
>
> If you could but together a basic but complete Pentax outfit--everythi
Kessler convinced me in 1999.
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The ~only~ way to shoot my 67ll is from a tripod (unless that is, you're
wired (in a studio).
Recent trip(s) convinced me.
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Too many answers depend on where a person lives.
In the entire list, some of the film listed is the only film of its type sold
(in the area where the shooter lives). Location skews film choices, as anyone
who travels already knows.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Erickson) wrote:
"Here's my "No Fat, but Lots of Muscle" nature photography outfit. It all
fits in one Lowepro Nature Trekker:
2 MZ-S bodies
FA* 28-70 F2.8
FA* 80-200 F2.8
FA* 300 F2.8
A2X-L converter
Cokin P holder
2 stop ND Grad filter
Circular
Yep, PENTAX WR-90
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