Bob, the listeners would find those conversations very suspect. Why
would be they listening if there was no threat? If there IS a threat and
of course there IS a threat because everybody knows there IS a threat,
and they can't find the damned threat it could only mean the threat is
so carefull
In a message dated 4/17/2009 1:50:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pentax...@mac.com writes:
Having spent 12 years in and around those we pay to guard our gates
through the use of intel gathering and parsing may be one of the
reasons I don't spend much time worrying about what might be.
...sleep well, Caesar... your faithful Brutus is watching your back...
LF ;-)
eactiv...@aol.com escreveu:
In a message dated 4/17/2009 1:50:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pentax...@mac.com writes:
Having spent 12 years in and around those we pay to guard our gates
through the use of
On Apr 18, 2009, at 06:16 , Luiz Felipe wrote:
Bob, the listeners would find those conversations very suspect. Why
would be they listening if there was no threat? If there IS a threat
and of course there IS a threat because everybody knows there IS a
threat, and they can't find the damned
On Apr 18, 2009, at 06:49 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
It's not perfect, but it the paid for paranoia of these folks works
pretty damn well to allow me to sleep and enjoy life.
...
Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian
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You put a high level of trust in government.
Not a high level, but
Joseph McAllister wrote:
the daily dose of breaking news and it's running list of
words designed to keep you at a fever pitch about damn near everything.
Our media (especially TV news) loves to keep us in a constant state of fear.
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David J Brooks escreveu:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:23 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as it doesn't stop me from downloading pr0n I'm cool with it.
DS
I have lots, we can share.:-)
Dave
2009/4/16
In a message dated 4/16/2009 5:47:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pentax...@mac.com writes:
Bad things (so far) happen to other people in other places.
(Hope this isn't my last transmission on this channel)
Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time
9/11?
However, I don't
2009/4/17 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:23 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as it doesn't stop me from downloading pr0n I'm cool with it.
DS
I have lots, we can share.:-)
Good man in a storm is Dave Brooks.
:-)
DS
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Sometimes I think it's wrong that we're always held on alert. Then I
see something like this: http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4
On Apr 17, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Christian wrote:
Joseph McAllister wrote:
the daily dose of breaking news and it's running list of
paul stenquist wrote:
Sometimes I think it's wrong that we're always held on alert. Then I see
something like this:
http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4
So, the real question is: If it's so easy, why hasn't it been done yet?
Where are the suitcase dirty
In a message dated 4/17/2009 8:53:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:
Sometimes I think it's wrong that we're always held on alert. Then I
see something like this:
http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4
=
I think you proved
I think you're correct. But it may well be the cautious attitude of
the government that has kept us safe thus far. 9/11 was much more
difficult to pull off than a suitcase of anthrax, yet it was
accomplished.
I also find it interesting that Obama preached openness and
understanding in
...don't forget the fire ants...
Ok, serious now. It's not so easy, but it is possible. So anyone with a
clear mind should pay attention to security measures, starting from the
helmets, seat belts, knives in waste disposal sinks, smoke signs,
footprints around windows and back doors...
Believe me, some of the loudest and wildest voices against USA in BR
during our military dictatorship were granted state honors in recents
trips to the same USA - say during the last 10 years.
Still, there are some who believe in campaign speeches.
LF
eactiv...@aol.com escreveu:
In a message
2009/4/16 John Francis jo...@panix.com:
I think you're making more of this than it warrants.
Glad to hear it, John. :-)
The wording of the proposed bill is rather troublesome in parts, but
mostly it doesn't offer any new powers that are not already available
to the president in a declared
Had a discussion about IP surveillance with my colleagues, and one
mentioned that Sweden actually passed a very similar bill half a year
ago. Once mentioned, I remembered the uproar here in Norway too. Most
of our internet traffic (apart from a modest line via Spitsbergen to
USA) is routed
On Apr 17, 2009, at 09:32 , paul stenquist wrote:
I think you're correct. But it may well be the cautious attitude of
the government that has kept us safe thus far. 9/11 was much more
difficult to pull off than a suitcase of anthrax, yet it was
accomplished.
In part because the
2009/4/15 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
[snip]
LF (AKA Wild Pagan of the Great White Kayak)
Didn't you already have a canoe in the mail, or was that someone else? :-)
Jostein
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As long as it doesn't stop me from downloading pr0n I'm cool with it.
DS
2009/4/16 27...@comcast.net:
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212
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Adam is absolutely right on this one.
In fact, Europe is even more vulnerable to this than is USA because of
its many national states. Okay, there's something called EU, but there
are enough national interest in each of the member states to make a
situation quite different from the US.
I imagine
Well, the fact is I'm not hiding - since I was raised in a time when the
BR military had the power to do almost anything I developed the habit
of accepting everything I chose to speak, write or draw would be public.
Never had any ideas of keeping conversations, letters or expressions
under
Jostein, I have a white kayak here and I do have a canoe in my wife's
hometown - home built canoe, lots of patches and presently leaking.
There should be others.
LF
AlunFoto escreveu:
2009/4/15 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
[snip]
LF (AKA Wild Pagan of the Great White Kayak)
In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:30:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
What I really don't understand is the need to pass such a bill in
peacetime,. Do someone really see such an emergency coming up?
===
? It isn't peace time here. We are still heavily
Given what we have seen on the screen recently, it looks like we have at
least one additional action, operation, or whatever off the horn of
Africa. That wasn't someone's 60 footer out there patrolling off
Somalia on a whim. These sailors leave their families, friends, and
neighbors to
Your credit card transactions at USA McDonald's are verified over the
internet. If you shut it down, there would be a roar from consumers
and businesses across the country. Think about no more plastic for
purchases... Nonsense! Regards, Bob S.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM,
In a message dated 4/16/2009 9:27:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Your credit card transactions at USA McDonald's are verified over the
internet. If you shut it down, there would be a roar from consumers
and businesses across the country. Think about no more
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com:
In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:30:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
What I really don't understand is the need to pass such a bill in
peacetime,. Do someone really see such an emergency coming up?
===
? It isn't peace time
In a message dated 4/16/2009 10:10:05 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com:
In a message dated 4/16/2009 2:30:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
What I really don't understand is the need to pass such a bill in
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com:
Hmmm.
And your point?
Jostein
It isn't peacetime, that's all.
I don't think war time justifies getting rid of personal liberties, but
your statement was inaccurate. At least for the US, which is where the bill
is.
All NATO countries are
2009/4/16 eactiv...@aol.com:
Hmmm.
And your point?
Jostein
It isn't peacetime, that's all.
I don't think war time justifies getting rid of personal liberties, but
your statement was inaccurate. At least for the US, which is where the bill
is.
All NATO countries are
There;s beer.
Dave
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 05:38:59PM +, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:23 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as it doesn't stop me from downloading pr0n I'm cool with it.
DS
I have lots, we can share.:-)
Dave
2009/4/16 27...@comcast.net:
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:57:45PM +0200, AlunFoto wrote:
So it's on that background I'm a bit puzzled as to why this (legal)
bill emerges now. It made me wonder if someone, somewhere, perceive
the current situation much more threatening (to the US) than I do from
up here in the Frostpit...
In a message dated 4/16/2009 12:59:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
All NATO countries are involved in one of those wars together, though.
For the other one the bill is yours, that's true.
AFAIK, there hasn't been a single day of global peace in the last five
On Apr 16, 2009, at 15:22 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
===
I think you don't understand the political climate in the US. While
it has
changed a little, maybe more than a little, it has not changed for
all.
Not this soon, or this quickly.
Still plenty of people here terrified of
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 05:38:59PM +, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212
Yeah, sure. Like you're a regular poster here.
We don't have time for conspiracy theory here -
hehehehe... so blasting the planet to pieces - or at least retaining the
hardware to do so - is not enough... :-)
... let it be - our genetically enhanced fire ants will be able to
re-route our secret traffic through the AC power wires, and we will be
yet closer to world domination...
Subject: Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut down'
Internet
hehehehe... so blasting the planet to pieces - or at least retaining the
hardware to do so - is not enough... :-)
... let it be - our genetically enhanced fire ants will be able to
re-route our secret traffic through
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:30 PM, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
But what if its true ?
WE will not be able to talk about our beloved Pentax cameras and our
photos..Joe
I've read through the relevant sections as the act would potentially
affect me (I work for a major US backbone provider). This
beloved Pentax cameras and our photos..Joe
- Original Message -
From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:02:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Cybersecurity Act would give president power to 'shut
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
...did you know the US immigration now has the legal right to screen any
memory device carried by foreigners into the US? They may read any documents
and emails, watch any photos, hear any musics, and even retain
Whatever you do, be sure to wipe this post clean from your computer(s)
and any copies on the internet or PDML archives prior to crossing our
borders. This'll put you in the hoosegow fer sure.
On Apr 15, 2009, at 14:01 , Luiz Felipe wrote:
...ok, you got my attention for sure. If you're in
In a message dated 4/15/2009 10:39:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
27...@comcast.net writes:
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212
=
I saw the story the other day (before you posted
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:31 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/15/2009 10:39:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
27...@comcast.net writes:
Somebody sent this to me and I thought I would send the link to the group..
Link http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=15212
In a message dated 4/15/2009 7:41:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
a...@mawz.ca writes:
3. That's an understatement. Written by people who neither understand
the impact of such an act nor understand that the US Executive Branch
already has such powers in an emergncy situation (IE declaration or
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:40:43PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit:
3. That's an understatement. Written by people who neither understand
the impact of such an act nor understand that the US Executive Branch
already has such powers in an emergncy situation (IE declaration or
war or suspension of
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:40:43PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit:
3. That's an understatement. Written by people who neither understand
the impact of such an act nor understand that the US Executive Branch
already has such powers
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