Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On Apr 1, 2005 4:33 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "John Francis" > Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > > > frank theriault mused: > >> > >>

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-04-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid frank theriault mused: So, I have my driver's licence for the photo ID part (even though it's expired, the photo works, and it shows my birt

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-04-01 Thread John Francis
frank theriault mused: > > So, I have my driver's licence for the photo ID part > (even though it's expired, the photo works, and it shows my birthdate) Good luck! An expired driver's licence is not acceptable according to the current TSA guidelines (from my own experience). I'd strongly urge

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On Apr 1, 2005 2:43 AM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Won't the photo on it be a bit, er, dated? > > mike > who thinks that proper ID probably needs a picture of the bearer. Right now, to get into the US, photo ID alone isn't enough. One needs proof of citizenship. So, I have my

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On Apr 1, 2005 8:48 AM, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I now have a birth certificate. > Should work nicely... > > Yeah but who's is it? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-04-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
> I now have a birth certificate. Should work nicely... Yeah but who's is it? Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 31, 2005 10:55 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attr

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-31 Thread mike wilson
frank theriault wrote: On Mar 30, 2005 10:46 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frank always has to sneak past the border guards because he forgets to bring proper I.D... I didn't forget proper ID. I just didn't have it. This year will be different, however. I now have a birth certifica

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-31 Thread frank theriault
On Mar 30, 2005 10:46 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank always has to sneak past the border guards because he forgets to > bring proper I.D... I didn't forget proper ID. I just didn't have it. This year will be different, however. I now have a birth certificate. Should work

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-31 Thread Graywolf
Of course, some of us did not think Frank was all there last year. (couldn't resist) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- frank theriault wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:33:11 -0500, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: might work. i

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >might work. if you can smuggle him past the border guards otoh, >in small quantities you might get frank even duty free... Frank always has to sneak past the border guards because he forgets to bring proper I.D... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing ww

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:33:11 -0500, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > might work. if you can smuggle him past the border guards otoh, > in small quantities you might get frank even duty free... Hey, I managed to wrangle my way into and out of the USA for GFM last year. Hope to do the same t

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-30 Thread Mishka
might work. if you can smuggle him past the border guards otoh, in small quantities you might get frank even duty free... best, mishka On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:36:26 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:35:37 -0500, Mar

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-30 Thread John Forbes
How do you know, Bob? You've never seen me with MY pearl necklace. PDML London, stand by. John On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:53:47 +0100, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Wednesday, March 30, 2005, 2:19:25 AM, Tom wrote: Like her too, don't know about John. Once you get to know him he's alright. Pro

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-30 Thread John Forbes
Frank, I was trying to be brief, but of course you're absolutely correct! ;-) John On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:15:10 -0500, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:48:28 +0100, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kinda like anybody vs. Sophia Loren. Of course, you mean

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-30 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Hi, Wednesday, March 30, 2005, 2:19:25 AM, Tom wrote: Like her too, don't know about John. Once you get to know him he's alright. Probably not as nice as Audrey Hepburn with a pearl necklace though... _Far_ too early for that sort of information. You must be suffering from early mo

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Jens Bladt
.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 30. marts 2005 08:04 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > > Like her too, don't know about John. > >Once you get to know hi

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Jens Bladt
may very well add annother week to finish the transactrion. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. marts 2005 15:08 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: I'm surprised that this one di

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
> Like her too, don't know about John. Once you get to know him he's alright. Probably not as nice as Audrey Hepburn with a pearl necklace though... -- Cheers, Bob Hah! I think I like every movie Audrey Hepburn was in. "How to Steal a Million" and "Charade" are two of my favorites. Charade is m

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
> Like her too, don't know about John. Once you get to know him he's alright. Probably not as nice as Audrey Hepburn with a pearl necklace though... -- Cheers, Bob Hah! I think I like every movie Audrey Hepburn was in. "How to Steal a Million" and "Charade" are two of my favorites. Charade is m

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Bob W
Hi, Wednesday, March 30, 2005, 2:19:25 AM, Tom wrote: > Like her too, don't know about John. Once you get to know him he's alright. Probably not as nice as Audrey Hepburn with a pearl necklace though... -- Cheers, Bob >>On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:48:28 +0100, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread williamsp
Quoting Quasi Modo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Manual lenses = too much hassle in this day and age. > (I think that captures the sentiments of ~90% of ppl > in the market for Pentax lenses) > I'm in your remaining 10% minority then ;-) -

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:36:26 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about a Canadian? Could I replace myself with Frank? Do I get Lisa in the bargain? If so, I'll be happy to participate... cheers, frank ps: perhaps you may consider replacing yourself with someone else, if y

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:57:11 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So how is that, this is a Pentax photographic list surely there are better > places to discuss Lauren and Hepburn? I must disagree, Rob. There is never a wrong time or place to talk about Audrey Hepburn. -frank

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
Mark Roberts wrote: What a splendid idea! I've always wondered what equipment to replace in order to make my photography better. Now I know; it's the photographer! What about a Canadian? Could I replace myself with Frank? Two wrongs don't make a right. ;)

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Mar 2005 at 12:05, Quasi Modo wrote: > I bet a few people are thinking...take one group of photography > enthusiasts, talk down the manual focus gear which comprises most of > their collection, sit back and watch! The most important thing is > that they're often the same optical formulas,

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Graywolf
Ah yes! I thought so. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Quasi Modo wrote: I saw your sig and just had to take it up a level - you followed it as fluidly as if it were metered and focused in SAFOX VIII itself. I'm all for ec

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Herb Chong
when 2.5 fps isn't fast enough, manual focus is out of the question. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:35:37 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >True, absolutely. It would come down to sample variation if anything .8) >> >> Yeah, that and "photographer variation" >> >have you tried to switch to using japanese or german

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
y-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > >Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:15:10 -0500 > > > >On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:48:28 +0100, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Graywolf
Well, I only have one lens rating, "professionally acceptable". Beyond that IMO it is all mystic mumbo-jumbo, and below that it is all junk. But I think I have said this before. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Quasi Modo

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Mar 2005 at 20:07, Mishka wrote: > exactly. > (1) available to germany only > (2) "as is, no warranty whatsoever" > (3) payment by bank transfer only > looks like a winning combination of friendliness and convenience. > i think the best one was > (4) "I pay the eBay fees!" -- a truly gener

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
Like her too, don't know about John. Tom C. From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:15:10 -0500 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:48:28 +0100, John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kinda like anybody vs. Sophia Loren. Of course, you mean anybody except Audrey Hepburn. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Mishka
have you tried to switch to using japanese or german photographers (where the quality control is presumably better) instead? best, mishka On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:35:37 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >True, absolutely. It would come down to sample variation if anything .8) >

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:52:36 +0100, Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey whatever works for you. I prefer MF lenses and the way they affect my > picture taking. Most AF lenses don't have the right feel for me. > Nick I too, prefer manual focus lenses. The fact that I don't own an AF body

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:35:37 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, that and "photographer variation" > I can take any lens and blur the shit out of it. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
:) Tom C. From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:48:28 +0100 Kinda like anybody vs. Sophia Loren. A Fan On Tue,

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Mishka
exactly. (1) available to germany only (2) "as is, no warranty whatsoever" (3) payment by bank transfer only looks like a winning combination of friendliness and convenience. i think the best one was (4) "I pay the eBay fees!" -- a truly generous spirit! best, mishka On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:47:

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Mishka
oh man, now you are in knee deep in ... ... trouble! best, mishka On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:10:58 +1000, Quasi Modo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With regard to manual focus lens collection, optical quality > and/or superiority to AF is the classic fallback position. It was > assumed that you were

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Bruce Dayton
IL PROTECTED]> HC> To: HC> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:17 AM HC> Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid >> Amen! I can't even explain the joy of using a manual >> focus lens with the *istDS. Currently I'm playing >> around with it and the Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5 >> screwmount lens.

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
You must be a very, very busy person. The time spent focusing must be quite scarce. I hope I never get to the point where the spent focusing is wasted time. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Herb Chong > ... using MF more than necessary is just a waste of > my time. it's about getting the

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Herb Chong
2005 10:17 AM Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid Amen! I can't even explain the joy of using a manual focus lens with the *istDS. Currently I'm playing around with it and the Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5 screwmount lens.

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Forbes
Kinda like anybody vs. Sophia Loren. A Fan On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:44:38 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: William Robb wrote: Compared to the older lens, it feels like cheap junk, and looks like a small pile of carefully formed moose puke. Kinda like Britney Spears vs. Sophia Loren. -

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Mar 2005 at 19:39, Nick Clark wrote: > I think this auction had too many restrictions on location and payment > methods. > What is it with German ebayers not liking PayPal anyway? Paypal terms and charges are really only attractive to US dealers dealing in US$, I won't have a bar of them

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Bruce Dayton
. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 3:33:52 PM, you wrote: WR> - Original Message - WR> From: "Rob Studdert" WR> Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid >> LOL, I love where this simple post went, got

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid LOL, I love where this simple post went, got to appreciate the PDML for sheer entertainment value. Though I do agree having owned two A20/2.8 and having

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Mar 2005 at 15:44, Tom C wrote: > William Robb wrote: > > > >Compared to the older lens, it feels like cheap junk, and looks like a > >small pile of carefully formed moose puke. > > Kinda like Britney Spears vs. Sophia Loren. LOL, I love where this simple post went, got to appreciate th

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid William Robb wrote: Compared to the older lens, it feels like cheap junk, and looks like a small pile of carefully formed moose puke. Kinda like Britney Spe

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Don Sanderson
E! I LIKE that one! For us in the midwest USA it would be pigeon droppings tho. ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:45 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote: Compared to the older lens, it feels like cheap junk, and looks like a small pile of carefully formed moose puke. Kinda like Britney Spears vs. Sophia Loren.

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > > Your statement is just as bad as the zooms vs. primes or automatic vs > > manual arguments about learning composition. > > Have you

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 3/29/2005, 5:17 PM: > > Your statement is just as bad as the zooms vs. primes or automatic vs > > manual arguments about learning composition. > > Have you actually taught this stuff or are you blowing smoke? > > William Robb > I taught myself. The statement was "l

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Bob W
Hi, > I've seen a lot posted in several places about > the superior optical quality of manual focus Vs AF lenses and have > seen the arguments lose their legs within 100 characters. the argument doesn't stack up in either direction. It makes no more (or less) sense to say "AF lenses

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Quasi Modo" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid With regard to manual focus lens collection, optical quality and/or superiority to AF is the classic fallback position. Perhaps there is some reason for th

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid Your statement is just as bad as the zooms vs. primes or automatic vs manual arguments about learning composition. Have you actually taught this stuff or a

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid SMC PENTAX-A 1:2,8 20mm 5862014 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7502833948 The guy only wants to sell to Germany. Th

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Nick Clark
.net" Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid Nick Clark wrote on 3/29/2005, 2:11 PM: > It's not just about optical quality, it's about the gestalt of picture > taking. MF lenses feel better and

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Christian
Nick Clark wrote on 3/29/2005, 2:11 PM: > It's not just about optical quality, it's about the gestalt of picture > taking. MF lenses feel better and promote a more considered approach > to composition. > Oh god... not this again... I'm not going to argue the "feel" because what feels good

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Nick Clark
Try them! It's not just about optical quality, it's about the gestalt of picture taking. MF lenses feel better and promote a more considered approach to composition. Nick -Original Message- From: "Quasi Modo"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 29/03/05 17:12:05 I've seen a lot posted i

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Nick Clark
I disagree. I'd much rather have a decent manual focus lens with a proper focusing ring than an AF lens. MF are generally better built too (limiteds excluded). I use MF 90% of the time. I think this auction had too many restrictions on location and payment methods. What is it with German ebayer

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Whittingham
ssories/filters + the FA 135 f/2.8 and went forĀ£178.51p .8) John -- Original Message --- From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:06:30 +0100 Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn'

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Whittingham
> Yeah, that and "photographer variation" LOL John -- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:35:37 -0500 Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Roberts
"John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not to mention the fact that the manual focus 20/2.8 and the >> autofocus 20/2.8 are optically IDENTICAL. ;-) > >True, absolutely. It would come down to sample variation if anything .8) Yeah, that and "photographer variation" -- Mark Roberts Ph

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Whittingham
indelig meddelelse- > Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 29. marts 2005 19:07 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > > > Optical superiority is not my genre. Here is a comparison f

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Whittingham
ntax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:23:06 -0500 Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Asside from all the arguments over which are superior manual or AF lenses if &g

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Jens Bladt
t Emne: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > Optical superiority is not my genre. Here is a comparison for you: I > bought a used K135/2.5 from a local shop at a price where (assuming > enough of them) I could buy 6 of them before matching one new >

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Mark Roberts
"John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Asside from all the arguments over which are superior manual or AF lenses if >we come back to the original post regarding the A 20mm f/2.8, how useful do >you think AF really is at 20mm? Not to mention the fact that the manual focus 20/2.8 and the

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Whittingham
> Optical superiority is not my genre. Here is a comparison for you: I > bought a used K135/2.5 from a local shop at a price where (assuming > enough of them) I could buy 6 of them before matching one new > FA135/2.8. No, there are no used ones around, I don't think. There's been three on eBay UK

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Quasi Modo wrote: > Finally, it's amazing how few of these head to head comparisons > between F/FA/DA/DFA and A/K/M etc lenses see the light of web. I'm > all ears. My friend, Optical superiority is not my genre. Here is a comparison for you: I bought a used K135/2.5 from

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread John Whittingham
iscuss@pdml.net Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:12:05 +1000 Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid > I saw your sig and just had to take it up a level - you followed it > as fluidly as if it were metered and focused in SAFOX VIII itself. > I'm all for e

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
I saw your sig and just had to take it up a level - you followed it as fluidly as if it were metered and focused in SAFOX VIII itself. I'm all for economising on lens expenditure, and not waiting ad infinitum for a lens release. I've seen a lot posted in several places about the superior optica

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Tom C
LES! Tom C. From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:05:21 +0100 Hi, >> > Anyway we're here to learn not impose idiosyn

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Quasi Modo wrote: Cory, if I had a buck for everytime I've had people talk lovingly of older, "quality" glass and end up not being able to cite, then convincingly explain why, more than three cases of the AF version of a given lens is inferior to the manual mount, I'd have a lo

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
Aside: there's at least 1other Australian active in this thread (although I recall Rob is leaving Pentax...?) - Paxtons (Sydney) is no longer buying 2nd hand and as such is reducing the prices to clear. I did see a 135/2.5 of one description (manual, of course) for circa AUD250 amongst others.

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Francis Alviar
Amen! I can't even explain the joy of using a manual focus lens with the *istDS. Currently I'm playing around with it and the Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5 screwmount lens. Granted you have to do one or two extra steps to get exposure but what I'm shooting at won't move away and there's no hurry in g

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
Don the domain name rather gives you away. A brief analysis of the market opens an opportunity, yes: D/DS have been successful releases not matched with commensurate lens production/adjustments for crop factor (+ issues with 35mm lenses at certain focal lengths => discontinued production) => shor

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Bob W
Hi, >> > Anyway we're here to learn not impose idiosyncratic mindsets >> [...] have I suddenly been transposed into the PDML of a different, parallel universe? -- Cheers, Bob

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
et to be 'replaced' in AF versions at an affordable price > point. > > Don > > > -Original Message- > > From: Quasi Modo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:22 AM > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: I'

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Did I say that older lenses are "superior?" I just said there's a market for them. Some older lenses may be superior to newer glass, but, Anonymous One, it's necessary to define superior. Different lenses have different fingerprints, as it were, different optical qualities, and depending on the

RE: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Don Sanderson
s yet to be 'replaced' in AF versions at an affordable price point. Don > -Original Message- > From: Quasi Modo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:22 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: I'm surprised that this one didn&#

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
Let the market decide, Shel. If you want to collect lenses and that floats your boat, by all means do. But the only delusions are indeed yours if you think a) they're consistently and noticably superior optically to their younger AF siblings and b) they're worthy investments. By all means col

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Shel Belinkoff
HAR! If you pay much attention to anything this antonymous poster, Quasi Modo, says, you'd be deluding yourself. Rob Studdert is probably right. There's still a very strong demand for manual focus lenses throughout the world, both from users and collectors. Shel > [Original Message] > From: C

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
Cory, if I had a buck for everytime I've had people talk lovingly of older, "quality" glass and end up not being able to cite, then convincingly explain why, more than three cases of the AF version of a given lens is inferior to the manual mount, I'd have a lot more AF lenses, at current eekbay pri

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Quasi Modo wrote: Manual lenses = too much hassle in this day and age. We are the Instant Gratification Generation. If I didn't filter my lens browsing to auto-focus only I'd be there all day. (I think that captures the sentiments of ~90% of ppl in the market for Pentax len

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Quasi Modo wrote: > Manual lenses = too much hassle in this day and age. We are the > Instant Gratification Generation. If I didn't filter my lens > browsing to auto-focus only I'd be there all day. (I think that > captures the sentiments of ~90% of ppl in the market for P

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Mar 2005 at 23:26, Quasi Modo wrote: > Manual lenses = too much hassle in this day and age. We are the > Instant Gratification Generation. If I didn't filter my lens > browsing to auto-focus only I'd be there all day. (I think that > captures the sentiments of ~90% of ppl in the market f

Re: I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Quasi Modo
Manual lenses = too much hassle in this day and age. We are the Instant Gratification Generation. If I didn't filter my lens browsing to auto-focus only I'd be there all day. (I think that captures the sentiments of ~90% of ppl in the market for Pentax lenses) On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:07:40 +10

I'm surprised that this one didn't attract a single bid

2005-03-29 Thread Rob Studdert
SMC PENTAX-A 1:2,8 20mm 5862014 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7502833948 Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998