URL change and cosmetic change to Pentax japan website

2008-04-09 Thread Thibouille
Just a short notice for you to know that Pentax website is now www.pentax.jp (instead of pentax.co.jp) and has been slightly change (on a cosmetic POV). It might lead to a better website design in the future hopefully. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo:

Re: URL change and cosmetic change to Pentax japan website

2008-04-09 Thread AlunFoto
I think that the materials legislation implemented in EU a couple of years ago hit Pentax very hard. Something to do with Bromine-based flame-retardants in the plastics used in their lenses. Jostein 2008/4/9 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Interestingly enough the last 7 35mm film cameras

Re: URL change and cosmetic change to Pentax japan website

2008-04-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Interestingly enough the last 7 35mm film cameras Pentax made are listed but noted to be discontinued. The medium format cameras are listed but not discontinued. (The lens situation in Japan seems to be a bit different than elsewhere in the world as well). Thibouille wrote: Just a short

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-18 Thread Thibouille
That's why I said I was of course exagerating based on your comments which means that I obviously do NOT own one and I do not pretend to. What you said *looked to me* as it was really annoying to change ISO on the A2. I had one in my hands for 5 minutes, no more than that, and I didn't like it

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Why make fun of something that you know nothing about? It's that attitude I find ridiculous. I've had the A2 for over two years and many thousands of pictures. It is remarkably difficult to let go of it as it has features, functional layout and image quality that are above and beyond any

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-18 Thread Thibouille
I dunno about ISO, I know that after couple minutes I played with it the interface seemed really badly designed and I could easily find what I wanted to. So you telling me I know nohing about it seems you can't read or you wouldn't react like that but maybe you don't know what fun is about. Now,

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You and I are evidently on opposite ends of the user spectrum. I picked up the A2 and figured out most of its functions and features, more than I usually need for my photographic work, without opening the owner's manual in about 5 minutes. There are many subtleties that the instruction

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-18 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: I disagree. What was a switch on the D is on the K10D (AF point selection, metering type). They moved the stuff from the mode dial (Which was a UI atrocity) to the Fn Menu (Which works very well). -Adam - The two big items for me are ISO set and the drive

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-17 Thread Thibouille
I didn't know about the E1, it seems indeed ideal. The KM 12 is the opposite IMO I'd prefer sticking to my D then having to: 1/ Shake the camera to letit know you wanna change a setting 2/ Select the ISO on a selector hidden under a secret trap nobody uses 3/ turn the back wheel to the right, the

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-17 Thread Thibouille
Except in a Limited serie ;) They should bring a K1000D Limited, sell it for many bucks and it would still sell I think :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-17 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 16, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Gabriel Cain wrote: What I'm stating is more of a wistful desire of something in the exact form-factor of the K1000 that happens to record to digital instead of film. I know it won't happen (unless I do it myself by modding one, but

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I'd agree on the FM-D, even better would be a FM2-D, with the FM2's slightly larger size and better finder. I used the term FM to indicate the Nikon FM, FM2, FE2 and FM3a bodies. The FM, FM2, FE2 were exactly the same size, as I recall ... I

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about vis-a-vis the KM A2. Folks who've owned one love it precisely for it's superb, direct, and easy to learn control layout. Godfrey On Oct 17, 2006, at 12:17 AM, Thibouille wrote: I didn't know about the E1, it seems indeed ideal. The KM

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 16.10.2006, at 00:53 , Digital Image Studio wrote: I agree but at least the Sv and Tav modes will provide some alternative to having to dig though menus to change ISO, the drive button absence will be a pain though. It's just one more button press to set drive mode then it was in *istD

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Thibouille
I think the reason why Pentax didn't put a knob for ISO setting is simply that taking into account what they did with SV/TAV and its consequences (ISO selection at 1/2 1/3 stop), just imagone the knob resulting with all 1/3 ISO stops LOL :) The screen is also more flexible: 1 stop at a time,

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the reason why Pentax didn't put a knob for ISO setting is simply that taking into account what they did with SV/TAV and its consequences (ISO selection at 1/2 1/3 stop), just imagone the knob resulting with all 1/3 ISO stops LOL :)

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Digital Image Studio On 16/10/06, Thibouille wrote: I think the reason why Pentax didn't put a knob for ISO setting is simply that taking into account what they did with SV/TAV and its consequences (ISO selection at 1/2 1/3 stop), just imagone

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Thibouille
You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let everything in place. What a joy... what a suicide too, unfortunately. It won't happen IMO. But I'd buy one, for sure. C'mon you see a K10D with instead

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure but you know well that a knob in a old-fashioned design (I put quotes for a reason) wouldn't make it don't you? ;) Not sure what you mean? Maybe not on a modern Pentax camera but a conventionally styled ISO dial worked for the Epson RD-1 --

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Thibouille
Sure but you know well that a knob in a old-fashioned design (I put quotes for a reason) wouldn't make it don't you? ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let everything in place. What a joy... what a suicide too, unfortunately. It won't happen IMO. But I'd

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
It's much less expensive to do this in software, than with a mechanical resistor. I've used the dial/wheel on the D and the menu on the Ds, the one thing I can say is that once you get used to one switching to the other is a PITA. Neither is optimal, but I haven't seen an optimal solution

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Don't forget the winder lever to cock the shutter and save some electrical power for taking pictures, who'd be silly enough to build a camera like that... (Wait a minute, isn't that the Cosina/Epson RD-1). Thibouille wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made

Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
Re: Setting ISo through the function menu rather than through a dedicated button: It's much less expensive to do this in software, than with a mechanical resistor. Of course! That is why Pentax does it this way. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Gabriel Cain
Thibouille wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let everything in place. I'd love that, too. I really enjoy taking pictures with great care to what I'm doing with a K1000. It's

RE: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date) Thibouille wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let everything in place. I'd love that, too. I really enjoy taking pictures

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Gabriel Cain
, October 16, 2006 5:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date) Thibouille wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Sony R1 and Canon 10D have a button for ISO. Press the button and dial up the desired ISO with one of the thumbwheels. No mode selector change and no menu. The Konica Minolta A2 has a second function selector wheel, separate from the exposure mode selector, with a button in the middle.

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Gabriel Cain wrote: Thibouille wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let everything in place. I'd love that, too. I really enjoy taking pictures

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Gabriel Cain
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: To me, the *ist DS and now K110D are the embodiment of what the K1000 was in 35mm film. Basic, practical, usable cameras that sell for very reasonable prices. Indeed, although I haven't used either the *ist or K1X0 bodies enough to get a good feel for them. What

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Gabriel Cain wrote: What I'm stating is more of a wistful desire of something in the exact form-factor of the K1000 that happens to record to digital instead of film. I know it won't happen (unless I do it myself by modding one, but I don't have the

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/10/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's much less expensive to do this in software, than with a mechanical resistor. I've used the dial/wheel on the D and the menu on the Ds, the one thing I can say is that once you get used to one switching to the other is a PITA. Neither is

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I wouldn't want one. Been there and done that. It's the past. Paul On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Gabriel Cain wrote: Thibouille wrote: You know Rob, I'd be the first to want an LX/K1000-like camera made digital, sort of what the MZ-5 was. Take a K1000/LX, slap a sensor and let everything in

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't want one. Been there and done that. It's the past. It's a bit like pining for a vintage car I guess :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Digital K1000 (was Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date)

2006-10-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I own a vintage car. But I don't want a replica of a vintage car with a contemporary drivetrain. Phooey. Paul On Oct 16, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 17/10/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't want one. Been there and done that. It's the past. It's a

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread David Mann
On Oct 14, 2006, at 8:48 PM, John Celio wrote: The same thing happens in other industries all the time. In the video game industry, for example, game consoles often LOSE money for the company that makes them (the original XBox is a good example of this). They exist to lock you into

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date That business model would be a complete disaster in the photographic industry. Most people are only going to use their DSLR with the kit lens(es), which are often third-party anyway

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date That business model would be a complete disaster in the photographic industry. Most people are only going to use their DSLR with the kit lens(es), which are often

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Thibouille
But I know Sigma plays without any license. Maybe Tokina/Tamron did buy license and as such do not have compatibility problems ? 2006/10/15, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below the competition but not sub US$1000 (which seems to be the current cascade pricing point). Then they could have ended up with a far better profit/item ratio and

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below the competition but not sub US$1000 (which seems to be the current cascade pricing point). Then they could have ended up with a far

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
I disagree. What was a switch on the D is on the K10D (AF point selection, metering type). They moved the stuff from the mode dial (Which was a UI atrocity) to the Fn Menu (Which works very well). -Adam - The two big items for me are ISO set and the drive button. I use both regularly. I

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date . It's Sigma that continues to have problems with anything electronic (Ironic since their Sigma AF mount is actually a clone of EOS electrically). Sigma was the brand mentioned when I

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Thibouille
Apart from the drive mode I don't see where you lose a knob/button going from a D to a K10D (at least those who were well thought of). Tell me. 2006/10/15, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
Apart from the drive mode I don't see where you lose a knob/button going from a D to a K10D (at least those who were well thought of). Tell me. - As I wrote, the issues for me are setting the ISO and drive modes. I am not looking forward to having to set the ISO on the K10D by going

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/10/06, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The two big items for me are ISO set and the drive button. I use both regularly. I would rather have them on the top of the camera than on the back, even if the implementation on the top is less than ideal (as the ISO set mechanism is on

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-15 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: Apart from the drive mode I don't see where you lose a knob/button going from a D to a K10D (at least those who were well thought of). Tell me. - As I wrote, the issues for me are setting the ISO and drive modes. I am not looking forward to having to set the

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread John Celio
What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below the competition but not sub US$1000 (which seems to be the current cascade pricing

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selling fewer bodies for a higher price would be worse than disappointing a few people by pushing back the ship date, or not being able to meet initial demand. At the very least, people who get their cameras first will create a buzz about the

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/10/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION? What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread DagT
Den 14. okt. 2006 kl. 02.49 skrev Adam Maas: DagT wrote: Den 13. okt. 2006 kl. 22.18 skrev Adam Maas: graywolf wrote: QUESTION? What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? That's not exactly a high-end camera by price. It's very well specified, but it's also

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
DagT wrote: Den 14. okt. 2006 kl. 02.49 skrev Adam Maas: DagT I picked a couple egregarious examples. How about the Nikon D2Xs or D200, which are double and more than quadruple the cost of the K10D respectively. And are the same format. -Adam I donĀ“t see the problem if K10D does the

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread Thibouille
Does the D200 meters with MF glass at all? Does the D200 meters matrix with even non AF lens? AI/ non AI ? Remember the K10D does matrix with A lenses (and P-TTL) and those are MF. That said I agree with you, taking into account the differences, K10D and D200 or about hte same category. Which

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-14 Thread Adam Maas
Thibouille wrote: Does the D200 meters with MF glass at all? Yes. It's AI coupled so it meters with all AI or AI-converted lenses. Does the D200 meters matrix with even non AF lens? AI/ non AI ? Yes, although with non-CPU lenses you have to enter focal length and max aperture. It will matrix

Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority. DagT Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority. The post that you are referring to was nothing more than wishful thinking on the part

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html I've just cranked it through Altavista's translation site and there is something along the lines that they're postponing

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13/10/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone here translate this? According to some on drpeview the reason is that they have too many preorders outside Japan, and that these orders have priority. The post that you are referring

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have my order in. When it arrives, I'm happy. I'm happy in the meantime anyway as I have good lenses and the DS to work with. Patience... A pre-order does not guarantee fast delivery, only a priority on when the product actually arrives. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
: Digital Image Studio Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
. DagT Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well, I can wait another month or two if I have to. On Oct 13, 2006, at 4:34 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html I've

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html Quick translation; [Pentax have decided the new launch date of K10D be Nov.30 Although we have

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread David Savage
On 10/13/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html Quick translation; [Pentax have decided

Re: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 10/13/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time he visited there, the AF speed has been noticeably faster. Opps, sorry, he was saying that the AF accuracy (not the speed) was constantly improving. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread John Francis
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200647.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Tom C
Follows From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:48:46 -0400 On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Chan
Perhap they reckoned there could only be 1 shipment before x'mas, so they were trying to produce as many units as possible to fill the market? Makes sense to me, not that I am buying 1 this year. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Announcing the shipping date before they knew how

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Gonz
It sounds like Pentax has hit one out of the ballpark. Now we have to see if they dont choke. I suppose they much rather have this problem than the opposite. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:48:46 -0400 On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Reports/rumors elsewhere were that: 1. Pentax was still working on the firmware until a few days ago. 2. Production assembly started on 11 October. If true, and it sounds like the reports were, this delay was inevitable. The line about having enough cameras in stock to ship at once sounds like

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Tom C
List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:06:46 -0400 I suspect they had sales forecasted already, based on dealer commitments and monitoring lists and forums. I don't think they realized exactly how popular the K10D would be, and how badly

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Tom C
one now. Everyone else waited until supply caught up. I didn't have one (just wishful thinking at the time). Tom C. Original Message Follows From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread graywolf
. Now we have to see if they dont choke. I suppose they much rather have this problem than the opposite. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local release date will be Nov 30: http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: I just don't understand Pentax. They are always shooting themselves in the foot. Don't you think Pentax would like to have plenty of K10D's for sale ASAP? This is a brand new camera, one of the most sophicated Pentax has produced. A slight delay

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Example: When the Mazda Miata first came out there was no bargaining with dealers on sticker price. The demand was higher than supply. One paid sticker price or higher if they really wanted one now. Everyone else waited until supply caught up. Tom C. - Right. Can you imagine Toyota

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: QUESTION? What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? That's not exactly a high-end camera by price. It's very well specified, but it's also a sub-$1000 body, right in at the price that kickstarted the amateur DSLR market. Compare to the $2600+

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread DagT
Den 13. okt. 2006 kl. 22.18 skrev Adam Maas: graywolf wrote: QUESTION? What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? That's not exactly a high-end camera by price. It's very well specified, but it's also a sub-$1000 body, right in at the price that

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Adam Maas
DagT wrote: Den 13. okt. 2006 kl. 22.18 skrev Adam Maas: graywolf wrote: QUESTION? What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? That's not exactly a high-end camera by price. It's very well specified, but it's also a sub-$1000 body, right in at the price

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/13/2006 11:23:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reports/rumors elsewhere were that: 1. Pentax was still working on the firmware until a few days ago. 2. Production assembly started on 11 October. == They are probably delaying because they have

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
HAR!!! On Oct 13, 2006, at 10:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/13/2006 11:23:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reports/rumors elsewhere were that: 1. Pentax was still working on the firmware until a few days ago. 2. Production assembly started on 11

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/10/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION? What does this say about that High-end cameras do not sell well crap? It just says that they really screwed up their pricing to me. If they really had a handle on the market they would have priced it below the competition but not sub

Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date

2006-10-13 Thread P. J. Alling
] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Japan delays K10D release date Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:48:46 -0400 On 10/13/06 3:35 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Japan has announced that K10D's local

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-20 Thread Uni Corn
I think the list prices here are too high. I bought a black 31mm limited lens at a shop in Japan a week ago and the price was Yen 91.000 only (only?!). At Map camera for example it is the same thing. When browsing you get a price at 135.000 and when logging in it is down to 90.000 (out of stock

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Mar 2005 at 23:38, Uni Corn wrote: I think the list prices here are too high. I bought a black 31mm limited lens at a shop in Japan a week ago and the price was Yen 91.000 only (only?!). At Map camera for example it is the same thing. When browsing you get a price at 135.000 and when

All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Powell Hargrave
From Pentax Japan's Japanese site - Babelfish translation. Japanese Yen = 0.009551 US Dollar US Dollar = 104.700 Japanese Yen View the list using a fixed width font. Powell Last Update : 2005/3/18 Focal length - brightness

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Joseph Tainter
Trouble is, you have to go to Japan to get some of these. I called BH to tell them that the FA 300 f4.5 was still listed on Pentax Japan's web site, and to ask if they could get me one. The guy I talked with said that since Pentax USA doesn't list it, they can't get it. Joe

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Powell Hargrave
it, they can't get it. If you can't buy from Pentax Japan I am sure there are retailers in Japan that would be glad to send you one. There was a guy in California a few years ago who ran a service buying products from Japan. I nearly bought a camera through him. The price was good, but decided to pass

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Jim Apilado
of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:33:34 -0500 From Pentax Japan's Japanese site - Babelfish translation. Japanese Yen = 0.009551 US Dollar US Dollar = 104.700 Japanese Yen View the list using a fixed width font. Powell

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Joseph Tainter
If you can't buy from Pentax Japan I am sure there are retailers in Japan that would be glad to send you one. There was a guy in California a few years ago who ran a service buying products from Japan. I nearly bought a camera through him. The price was good, but decided to pass due to warrantee

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Herb Chong
i'd be interested in a FA* 300/4.5 that way. i'd rather have black Limiteds, but i'll make do with my silver ones. Herb... - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: Re: All of Pentax Japan

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Herb, On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:40:19 -0500, Herb Chong wrote: i'd be interested in a FA* 300/4.5 that way. i'd rather have black Limiteds, but i'll make do with my silver ones. Is there a particular reason you want the FA* version? I mean other than you're looking to get a new one. I

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Herb Chong
, March 19, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses Is there a particular reason you want the FA* version? I mean other than you're looking to get a new one. I waited for an F* version because it has the nice tripod mount. Even when the thing's not on a tripod, that mount makes

Re: All of Pentax Japan 35mm lenses

2005-03-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:58:00 -0500, Herb Chong wrote: if i am going to pay 80% of the price of a new lens, it has to be pretty close to perfect. Makes sense. I paid about 60% the price of a new FA* when I got my F*. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Pentax Japan site

2003-12-04 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
While making a brief visit to pentax' Japan site I noticed there was a museum section. So I went in. There was a picture of what appeared to be a LF Pentax! Anyone know anything about it? Collin

Re: Pentax Japan site

2003-12-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.12.03 18:27, Collin Brendemuehl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While making a brief visit to pentax' Japan site I noticed there was a museum section. So I went in. There was a picture of what appeared to be a LF Pentax! Anyone know anything about it? I don't :-( But it would be nice

Pentax Japan new products roadshows

2003-02-21 Thread Iren Henry Chu
Dear all, Pentax has sent out press release that they are going to organize new products release and explanation shows from 25 Feb to 7 March in 8 cities in Japan. The major new products to be shown are: Digital camera - Optio S, Optio550, and other new products Film camera - *ist, FAJs

Re: Pentax Japan new products roadshows

2003-02-21 Thread Alin Flaider
Iren wrote: IHC D-SLR is not mentioned in the press release and it is not know whether the IHC wording other new products is a hint of it, in view of the close timing to IHC PMA2003 and Japan Poto Expo on 14 March 2003. I'm afraid this says it all about chances to see a PDSLR at PMA. :o[

RE: Pentax Japan new products roadshows

2003-02-21 Thread Rob Brigham
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax Japan new products roadshows Dear all, Pentax has sent out press release that they are going to organize new products release and explanation shows from 25 Feb to 7 March in 8 cities in Japan. The major new products to be shown are: Digital

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