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Cotty wrote:
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On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I'm a Doctor not a Sturgeon.
There's something fishy going on here
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Cotty wrote:
> On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>
>> I'm a Doctor not a Sturgeon.
>>
>
> There's something fishy going on here
>
>
Well it certainly smelts like it.
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On 10/16/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Generally I find beeps and other artificial camera sounds distracting
> >so I turn them off. However, if I need some way for the camera to
> >inform me that it's locked focus when my eye is not at the
> >viewfinder, or I cannot see the focus on scree
Focus confirmation seems to pretty much shut down when I'm using my
600mm f8 lens.
Tom C wrote:
>> Generally I find beeps and other artificial camera sounds distracting
>> so I turn them off. However, if I need some way for the camera to
>> inform me that it's locked focus when my eye is not at t
You still need a modicum of proficiency to get reliable, decent
results. It's just the criteria for what is considered minimally
"reliable" and "decent" has been raised by many many notches. ;-)
G
On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Bob Blakely wrote:
> Not 50 years ago. Not with your H1, H1A, H2,
>Generally I find beeps and other artificial camera sounds distracting
>so I turn them off. However, if I need some way for the camera to
>inform me that it's locked focus when my eye is not at the
>viewfinder, or I cannot see the focus on screen or the indicator
>light, I turn on the focus confirm
I blame the school system, (and television, and computers...)
Bob Blakely wrote:
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> - Arthur C. Clarke
>
> Put the magic little card in the camera. Point the camera at anything,
> anywhere. Press the thingy and, voila! The
On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> Wordpad on the PC has that mostly covered. I forget what the OS X
> equivalent is, but it's pretty good. For pure RTF stuff,
> Thunderbird is pretty darned good as well.
TextEdit delivered with Mac OS X does ASCII text or .RTF/.RTFD/.DOC
form
Not 50 years ago. Not with your H1, H1A, H2, H3, H3V. Of course that WAS 50
years ago. That was back when one had to obtain at least a modicum of
proficiency to get reliable results.
Regards,
Bob...
"Art is not a reflection of reality. it
Lucas Rijnders wrote:
> Op Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:00:21 +0200 schreef jtainter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> I shoot. So I'd like to have the option to turn shaft drive on and off.
>> That way I can hear whether or not the lenses focuses.
>
> There used to be a 'focus confirmation beep', at least
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> What point am I arguing?
>
> I find Word to be nearly impenetrable in its options, it's much much
> easier to write when I don't have all that nonsense to deal with.
> Since I only very rarely deliver formatted documents, I write and
> deliver most textual work as A
;>>>> the
>>>>> K10D.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your suppositions are probably correct. When I say done for, I'm not
>>>>> predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally
>>>>> take thei
On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Bob Blakely wrote:
> Put the magic little card in the camera. Point the camera at anything,
> anywhere. Press the thingy and, voila! The magic is performed. The
> camera
> has become a witches cauldron for images.
Seems to me that's how the vast majority of people
I picked up my P645 with the 45mm lens on it. Seems just as easy to
see whether it's in focus as the K10D with the 43mm lens. Of course,
the screen is a lot bigger.
I never used focusing aids, find them distracting. My P645 screen is
a matte screen just like the K10D screen.
But this "ease
;
>>>>>>>> I use vi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>> Always the odd one out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&g
Not if he tells me to bend over and cough!
Regards,
Bob...
"Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection."
-Jean Luc Godard
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From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> graywolf wr
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
- Arthur C. Clarke
Put the magic little card in the camera. Point the camera at anything,
anywhere. Press the thingy and, voila! The magic is performed. The camera
has become a witches cauldron for images.
Regards,
Bob...
Well, maybe it's just me but when I look through my older MF cameras
like the 645 it's much easier to tell if the image is actually in focus.
The focusing screens seemed better, not mention the split prism stuff.
Unfortunately, I made the mistake of looking through my MX to confirm
this. Sigh.
On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote:
I shoot. So I'd like to have the option to turn shaft drive on and
off. That way I can hear whether or not the lenses focuses.
>
>>> There used to be a 'focus confirmation beep', at least on the film
>>> SLR's. Is it gone?
>
>> Oh, that
Let's see:
1. Word Processing software
2. Political orientations
3. Sci Fi quotes
4. Some discussion of DSLR design.
5. Some name calling
Yep, typical PDML thread.
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>>> I shoot. So I'd like to have the option to turn shaft drive on and
>>> off. That way I can hear whether or not the lenses focuses.
>> There used to be a 'focus confirmation beep', at least on the film
>> SLR's. Is it gone?
> Oh, that is the first thing I turn off on every camera. I would
My istD, K10D and D200 all have the beeps turned on. The others have
no beat, er beeps,
Dave
On 10/16/07, Lucas Rijnders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Op Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:00:21 +0200 schreef jtainter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I shoot. So I'd like to have the option to turn shaft drive on and
What point am I arguing?
I find Word to be nearly impenetrable in its options, it's much much
easier to write when I don't have all that nonsense to deal with.
Since I only very rarely deliver formatted documents, I write and
deliver most textual work as ASCII text. When I do have to deliver
LOL... I've never turned it off.
Tom C.
>From: jtainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "pdml@pdml.net"
>Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:34:25 -0600 (GMT-06:00
I thought the era of arcane knowledge was just beginning, say the right
incantation and the picture appears. What is actually happening is
obscured by the technology.
Bob Blakely wrote:
> Barbarians! Sewing people together like garments!
> - Dr. (Bones) McCoy
>
> Remember when photography was
graywolf wrote:
> Now LaTeX was the way to go
I like the way you think!
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gt;>>>> -Adam
> >>>>>>> Always the odd one out.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tom C wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
Persons have rights granted by God or arising simply by human birth,
whichever bois your water. Rights secured are liberty. Just governments are
instituted among people deriving there powers from the consent of the people
to secure these rights resulting in liberty. Governments have NO rights -
gt;>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL. You're not breaking it to me. I was being kind. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
Since this has evolved into a WP thread I guess I will comment.
I personally used to prefer LyX, but of course it was only a front end to
LaTeX.
Now LaTeX was the way to go if you were writing long articles, like say a 100
volume encyclopedia. Then I realized that nothing I wrote was more than
> I shoot. So I'd like to have the option to turn shaft drive on and off.
> That way I can hear whether or not the lenses focuses.
There used to be a 'focus confirmation beep', at least on the film SLR's.
Is it gone?
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-
Oh, that is the first thing I turn off on every c
Op Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:00:21 +0200 schreef jtainter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I shoot. So I'd like to have the option to turn shaft drive on and off.
> That way I can hear whether or not the lenses focuses.
There used to be a 'focus confirmation beep', at least on the film SLR's.
Is it gone?
people here use
> >>>>>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll bet it's a 5/95 ratio if not higher. Not too different from where
> >>>>>> Pentax stands in the market, despite some recent relativ
t;> Tom C wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> It'll likely be a matter of attrition. What % of people here use
> >>>>>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word?
> >>>>>>
> >
Barbarians! Sewing people together like garments!
- Dr. (Bones) McCoy
Remember when photography was about a light tight box with a lens to make it
better than a pinhole and a shutter to control exposure (mainly)? You
actually had to know something about light! You couldn't complain that the
c
.
But you know this. :-)
Tom C.
>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:56:11 -0700
>
>P
t;>>>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll bet it's a 5/95 ratio if not higher. Not too different from where
>>>>>> Pentax stands in the market, despite some recent relative success with
>>>>>> the
>>
en I say done for, I'm not
> > predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally
> > take their toll, unless something changes quickly.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED
So these lenses were just introduced for market hype?
-
No, the lenses are very, very good. As for SDM, it is quiet, almost spooky
until you are used to it. I think that once a suite a telephoto DA* lenses with
SDM are available, wildlife shooters will like the quiet. Other than that, I
re
ice 2007... and realize all MS
>> products have some glaring deficiencies...
>>
>>
>> Tom C.
>>
>>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject
K10D.
> >>>>
> >>>> Your suppositions are probably correct. When I say done for, I'm not
> >>>> predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally
> >>>> take their toll, unless something chang
I agree, hence my referring to the Libertarian Party as a bunch of kooks. I'm a
pragmatist despite my libertarian tendencies, and I agree with Lazarus Long
that government should strive to do the least evil, not the most good.
-Adam
P. J. Alling wrote:
> Libertarian philosophy works well in tw
Office 2007... and realize all MS
> products have some glaring deficiencies...
>
>
> Tom C.
>
> >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >Subject: Re: Next move from Penta
C.
>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:56:03 -0700
>
>I don't use either MS Word or WordP
On Oct 16, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
> ... So these lenses were just introduced for market hype?
I have both DA* lenses on hand to work with at present. Compared to
the DA16-45 and DA50-200, they're significantly better built and
finished, a stop to two stops faster, and weat
That's not his only problem. He has a hard time telling a fool from
someone who simply disagrees with him. He also is perfectly willing to
project his faults on others. Many of us do this I suppose but William
never seems to realize it, which I've found more and more insufferable.
John Forbes w
I don't use either MS Word or WordPerfect. Never used either,
actually. I do most of my writing in a source code editor or in the
Mail editor. But then I only rarely need formatted text. vi, emacs,
pico, BBEdit, whatever..
When I do need formatted text, there are better options available
t
As you may already know, i don't use Word, Wordperfet OR spell checkers.
:-)
Dave
On 10/16/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't use either MS Word or WordPerfect. Never used either,
> actually. I do most of my writing in a source code editor or in the
> Mail editor. But th
So these lenses were just introduced for market hype?
>>> Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/16/2007 11:25 AM >>>
"And, of course, there's AF which is a much more difficult and variable
feature than AE and one in which Pentax really fell behind. The big
issue here is again the lenses, as the
Libertarian philosophy works well in two places, a position of absolute
strength or utopia. Since neither exists it must be modified to match
current conditions. I've often thought that pure libertarians lived in
utopia, though it's also strange that the first place I heard the
execrable words
On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
> Canon (and Nikon, but especially Canon) will always be ahead of Pentax
> in feature-rich body design since they have so much more R&D money.
Not always true. Neither Canon nor Nikon have Pentax' MTF program
line, and Sv, TAv exposure modes
from Canon and Nikon.
To really do that, it needs to be FF.
Tom C.
>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007
I'm a Doctor not a Sturgeon.
(well McCoy should have said it, sometime...)
Mark Roberts wrote:
> Bob Blakely wrote:
>
>
>> "Will, sometimes there is nothing we can do but bow to the absurd."
>> - Picard, again...
>>
>
> "I'm a physician, not a bricklayer!"
> - Dr. McCoy
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
"And, of course, there's AF which is a much more difficult and variable
feature than AE and one in which Pentax really fell behind. The big
issue here is again the lenses, as the new DA* lenses will bring AF
speed much closer to the market leaders."
Unfortunately, the DA* lenses don't focus no
pite some recent relative success with the
>>>> K10D.
>>>>
>>>> Your suppositions are probably correct. When I say done for, I'm not
>>>> predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally
>>>> take their toll,
Derby Chang wrote:
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> And to William - I'd probably be a Republican if I was an American, it's
>> a more comfortable party to a small-l libertarian like me.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>
> Republican, libertarian? Really
>
> (OK, I'm Australian, but I could raise the same eyebrow about
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:22:50 +0100, P. J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well yes it was a pissing match. But I'm not mad a Adam because he
> wouldn't back down. In fact I learned a few things from him. I just
> don't agree that they're the whole reason for the high ISO improvements.
> WW h
Steve Desjardins wrote:
"Peter Fairweather" wrote:
>On 15/10/2007, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 15/10/07, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> >"Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a
>reflection."
>> > -Jean Luc Godard
>>
>> "Make it so."
>>
David Savage wrote:
> On 10/16/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Toralf Lund wrote:
>>
>>> It sort of makes me wish that Pentax were producing mobile phone,
>>> because then I might be able to buy one that's, well, a phone - and not
>>> an MP3 player, GPS, radio, Filofax, games console
anywhere, actually) since the LX. The current high-end
Pentax
>lens
>selection is miniscule compared to Canon and Nikon. Pentax does not
>provide
>the kind of professional support that Canon and Nikon do at major
sporting
>events. Pentax products lack presence on store shelves in
Adam Maas wrote:
>
> And to William - I'd probably be a Republican if I was an American, it's
> a more comfortable party to a small-l libertarian like me.
>
> -Adam
>
Republican, libertarian? Really
(OK, I'm Australian, but I could raise the same eyebrow about the
Liberal Party of Australia,
"A"
-Chewbacca
>>> "Peter Fairweather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/16/2007 2:37 AM
>>>
On 15/10/2007, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15/10/07, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >"Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a
reflection."
> >
On 10/16/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toralf Lund wrote:
>
> >It sort of makes me wish that Pentax were producing mobile phone,
> >because then I might be able to buy one that's, well, a phone - and not
> >an MP3 player, GPS, radio, Filofax, games console, toaster... Or a
> >camera
Toralf Lund wrote:
>It sort of makes me wish that Pentax were producing mobile phone,
>because then I might be able to buy one that's, well, a phone - and not
>an MP3 player, GPS, radio, Filofax, games console, toaster... Or a
>camera for that matter ;-)
I'd never have thought of it if you had
Adam Maas wrote:
>
>Tom C wrote:
>
>> It'll likely be a matter of attrition. What % of people here use
>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word?
>
>I use vi
Open Office here.
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Bob Blakely wrote:
>"Will, sometimes there is nothing we can do but bow to the absurd."
> - Picard, again...
"I'm a physician, not a bricklayer!"
- Dr. McCoy
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In the words of Commander Data
"Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. "
Peter
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William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>
>
>
>> For a second rate company, they do pretty well.
>
> Try shooting with a mid range or hi
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>
>
>
>>> I don't necessarily want a full frame camera, but I would like
>>> something
&
William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Savage"
> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>
>
>
>>> So buy a Canon. They're good for that sort of thing.
>> I was waiting for that
>&g
>>> take their toll, unless something changes quickly.
>>>
>>> Tom C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Ma
"Why is that, Mr Data?"
Jean Luc, after generating a particularly obtuse histogram in the red channel.
>
> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/10/16 Tue AM 12:41:08 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: Next m
Pentax autofocus keeps up quite nicely in CAF mode.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834217&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6065859&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5786253&size=lg
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On Oct 16, 2007, at
high-end
>> Pentax
>> lens
>> selection is miniscule compared to Canon and Nikon. Pentax does not
>> provide
>> the kind of professional support that Canon and Nikon do at major
>> sporting
>> events. Pentax products lack presence on store shelves in
>> For a second rate company, they do pretty well.
>>
>
> Try shooting with a mid range or higher Canon somtime.
> Have a look at the D40.
> In 1972, Pentax was still more or less a big player in the marketplace,
> though they were already at least a generation out of step.
> People want dec
Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>"Indeed!"
> >>-Teal'c
> >
> >
> > Wrong franchise buddy.
> >
>
>
> It's dead, Jim.
>
There's Klingons on the starboard bow..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
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On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:55 PM, William Robb wrote:
>> So buy a Canon. They're good for that sort of thing.
>
> I'd rather Pentax built a camera that was up to the standard of a
> five year
> old Canon. I could live with that, and use my present lenses to boot.
LOL ... I'm sure you wouldn't be p
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From: "David Savage"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>>So buy a Canon. They're good for that sort of thing.
>
> I was waiting for that
>
It would be good advice, and I'd probably take it
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From: "David Savage"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>>
>>"Indeed!"
>>-Teal'c
>
>
> Wrong franchise buddy.
>
It's dead, Jim.
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On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:48 PM, David Savage wrote:
> Yeah. Sometimes the dead things are on the road, a grassy field,
> under a car...
Yup. Sometimes they move pretty fast too...
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/32a.htm
But some just like to piss and moan. Must be disgruntled Demo
- Original Message -
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
> On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:48 PM, David Savage wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Sometimes the dead things are on the road, a grassy field,
>> under
- Original Message -
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>>
>> I don't necessarily want a full frame camera, but I would like
>> something
>> that can keep up with my dogs.
>
>
At 02:37 PM 16/10/2007, you wrote:
>On 15/10/2007, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 15/10/07, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >"Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection."
> > > -Jean Luc Godard
> >
> > "Make it so."
> > - Jean Luc Picard
>
At 02:41 PM 16/10/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, William Robb wrote:
> > I don't necessarily want a full frame camera, but I would like
> > something
> > that can keep up with my dogs.
>
>So buy a Canon. They're good for that sort of thing.
I was waiting for that
>
On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, William Robb wrote:
> Do try to appreciate that some people actually want a high spec
> camera body,
> whether or not they will use it to the maximum of it's abilities.
> Not all of us shoot dead objects sitting on sidewalks.
> I have two dogs that can easily outru
On 15/10/2007, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15/10/07, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >"Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection."
> > -Jean Luc Godard
>
> "Make it so."
> - Jean Luc Picard
> Cheers,
> Cotty
"Indeed!"
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From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
> On Oct 15, 2007, at 10:02 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>> For a second rate company, they do pretty well.
>>
>> Try shooting wit
On Oct 15, 2007, at 10:02 PM, William Robb wrote:
>> For a second rate company, they do pretty well.
>
> Try shooting with a mid range or higher Canon somtime.
Owned them, did that.
> Have a look at the D40.
Not interested. thanks though. I'd buy a Nikon or an Olympus first.
Canon lenses don'
'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally
>> take their toll, unless something changes quickly.
>>
>> Tom C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>
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From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
> For a second rate company, they do pretty well.
Try shooting with a mid range or higher Canon somtime.
Have a look at the D40.
In 1972, Pentax was
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>>> "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection."
>>> -Jean Luc Godard
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>>> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "pentax list"
> K10D.
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>>> Your suppositions are probably correct. When I say done for, I'm not
>>> predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally
>>> take their toll, unless something changes quickly.
>>>
>>> Tom C.
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>> My analogy was not about price, it was about image, prestige,
>> perception in
>> the market place. Sure a FF DSLR will cost more than one with an
>> APS-C size
>> sensor. If the Canons, Nikon's, Sony's of the world offer FF
>> DSLR's, then
>> Pentax must also. If they do not, they will
What % are you? :-)
Tom C.
>From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:32:32 -0400
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> > My analogy was not about price, it was about image, prestige, perception
> > in
> > the market place. Sure a FF DSLR will cost more than one with an APS-C
> > size
> > sensor. If the Canons, Nikon's, Sony's of the world offer FF DSLR's,
>then
> > Pentax must also. If they do not, they wil
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>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:20:34 -0400
>>
entax
> >> lens
> >> selection is miniscule compared to Canon and Nikon. Pentax does not
> >> provide
> >> the kind of professional support that Canon and Nikon do at major
>sporting
> >> events. Pentax products lack presence on store shelves in the
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From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
> My analogy was not about price, it was about image, prestige, perception
> in
> the market place. Sure a FF DSLR will cost more than one with an APS-C
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nt high-end Pentax
>> lens
>> selection is miniscule compared to Canon and Nikon. Pentax does not
>> provide
>> the kind of professional support that Canon and Nikon do at major sporting
>> events. Pentax products lack presence on store shelves in the USA. Etc.
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