Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On 2/18/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . While incidents were recorded with > almost all makes, they were most common with Audi, due apparently to > the close placement of accelerator and brake pedals and perhaps to a > large number of numb owners. I agree with that, Paul. Pedal

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-18 Thread mike wilson
.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx? SectionID=496&ArticleID=730454 mike - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Kenneth Waller wrote: We're not talking a

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
rges were not severe but they did produce secondary adrenaline surges when they occured in close traffic. m ----- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-18 Thread mike wilson
96&ArticleID=730454 mike - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Kenneth Waller wrote: We're not talking about the same phenomenon. You use the

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Kenneth Waller wrote: We're not talking about the same phenomenon. You use the term surge - generally interpreted as short duration & slight to moderate acceleration. The typical

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread mike wilson
se traffic. m - Original Message ----- From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Most major auto manufacturers have been sued with sudden accel as the alleg

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE On 2/17/06, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How often does the beer win? pretty much every time! You are drinking the wrong kind of be

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE On 2/17/06, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How often does the beer win? pretty much every time! You are drinking the wrong kind of beer. Try Montreal Canadiens bee

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread frank theriault
On 2/17/06, Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How often does the beer win? pretty much every time! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
roduce optimum power. Additionally, what you're talking about is taking place outside the combustion chamber. I don't see how that has anything to do with the production of engine power. Kenneth Waller - Original Message ----- From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread Lon Williamson
How often does the beer win? frank theriault wrote, in part: Do we get to have beer? I do my best arguing with beer.

Re: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-17 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Most major auto manufacturers have been sued with sudden accel as the > allegation. I've experienced this with a couple of vehicles. As far as I could ascertain, it was a function of the fuel delivery system to deliver excess fuel if the cat

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
ve been sued with sudden accel as the allegation. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE William Robb wrote: He (Nader) later tried to do so with GM pickups, but had to give up when his pe

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread John Forbes
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:23:18 -, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE And where exactly is "CENTER"? That would be sitting with a fence picket up your arse. W

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread Lewis Matthew
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And where exactly is "CENTER"? That would be sitting with a fence picket up your arse. William Robb Damn! After 71 years, you define my problem with a single sentence :-) Lewis _ D

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE And where exactly is "CENTER"? That would be sitting with a fence picket up your arse. William Robb

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread John Forbes
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:36:43 -, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: frank theriault wrote: On 2/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really think that the left is more zealous than, say the Evangelical Religious Right, especially in the US? Sometimes they are. Look at the red paint

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread Gonz
Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Gonz wrote: I actually believe that isolationism in the form of boycotts has the opposite effect intended. I.e. buying Chinese goods actually helps them move toward more freedom because of the injection of capitalistic ideas into their cul

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread Gonz
frank theriault wrote: On 2/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really think that the left is more zealous than, say the Evangelical Religious Right, especially in the US? Sometimes they are. Look at the red paint spraying anti-fur people. Or the whole Michael Moore thing (Farenh

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: He (Nader) later tried to do so with GM pickups, but had to give up when his people got caught faking the exploding gas tanks. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Nader behind this particular episode. I thought that was 60 Minutes or some such as that. I think 60 mins ruined Aud

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-16 Thread frank theriault
On 2/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You really think that the left is more zealous than, say the > > Evangelical Religious Right, especially in the US? > > > > Sometimes they are. Look at the red paint spraying anti-fur people. Or > the whole Michael Moore thing (Farenheight 911). T

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Gonz
You have way too much time on your hands. ;) Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How does one measure zeal? With a zeal-o-meter. I may have thought up a way to do it. What we need t

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
of course "the whole Michael Moore thing" got Palme d'Or. of course that was just a part of a giant plot of ultra-left french zealots to humiliate those who love freedom. the other parts of the same include imports roquefort and beaujolais. best, mishka On 2/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Gonz
frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hardly. Few in this world address their cause with more zealotry than our bretheren on the left. And even the pope is no more convinced of his infallibility than are the liberal idealogues. But that's true of ma

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Gautam Sarup
Hey Frank, No offense taken. It was just a matter of fact reply. I think people who get offended or demeaned by things that happened centuries ago should wake up. Cheers, Gautam On 2/15/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/14/06, Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE He (Nader) later tried to do so with GM pickups, but had to give up when his people got caught faking the exploding gas tanks. ?? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Nader be

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Given my foreign policy positions, I'm pretty much a match for a Leiberman or Miller politically, and they go either way. Thats only one parameter. William Robb

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Well, for a Canuck, I'm pretty far right. Which puts me right on the cusp between a Democrat and a Republican. Don't kid yourself. It puts you not far off th

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
IL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Nader made more than a few bucks off those Corvairs. In fact, he made a career off them. I suspect the Pinto

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Well, for a Canuck, I'm pretty far right. Which puts me right on the cusp between a Democrat and a Republican. Don't kid yourself. It puts you not far off the left of a Democrat. William Robb

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I may have thought up a way to do it. What we need to do is find everybody who identifies themselves as far left or Christian Right, plus a control group of sensible middle-of-the-roaders such as myself. I'll be you

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Nader made more than a few bucks off those Corvairs. In fact, he made a career off them. I suspect the Pinto helped... I can well imagine he is unpopular with peo

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/2/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >How does one measure zeal? Zealometer Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob W
; Sent: 15 February 2006 22:42 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE > > > -Original Message- > > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I may have thought up a way to do it. > > What we need to do is find everybody who identifies themselves as far left > or Christian Right, plus a control group of sensible middle-of-the-roaders > such as myself. I'll be your far-leftie. Anyone wan

RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How does one measure zeal? > > With a zeal-o-meter. > I may have thought up a way to do it. What we need to do is find everybody who identifies themselves as f

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:09 PM, William Robb wrote: How does one measure zeal? A zealometer. If you have lots, do they give you a zeal of approval? How about making fur coats from zeal pelts? Bob

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE How does one measure zeal? A zealometer. If you have lots, do they give you a zeal of approval? WW

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE You mean it's possible to be left of a democrat? In Canada, they are called conservatives. It just gets lefter from there. William Robb

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Nader made more than a few bucks off those Corvairs. In fact, he made a career off them. I suspect the Pinto helped... I can well imagine he is unpopular with people in and around th

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. I raised a few points only to suggest that many of these > religous/political incriminations apply fairly equally across the spectrum. I > am all for giving it a rest. We are in accords, sir. As long as we all remember that wh

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
I agree. I raised a few points only to suggest that many of these religous/political incriminations apply fairly equally across the spectrum. I am all for giving it a rest. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2/15/06, Bob W <

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does one measure zeal? With a zeal-o-meter. And, Adam and Paul and everyone else, I'm at a point in this thread where I'm just pulling everyone's leg, and being totally not serious (how's that for good use of the language English?). Who's farthe

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
s could get real interesting if > you were pushing it. > > Kenneth Waller > > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:44 PM > Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE &g

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
Nader made more than a few bucks off those Corvairs. In fact, he made a career off them. -- Original message -- From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > > >> There's precious little difference in my books betwee

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:44 PM Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: There's precious little difference in my books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. I don't think Rob

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
. I had a 61 Monza coupe & long sweeping turns could get real interesting if you were pushing it. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:44 PM Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: There's precious little difference in my books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. I don't think Robertson hates Corvairs. Not if he can somehow make a buck off them. Bob Making money is the reason Na

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: There's precious little difference in my books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. I don't think Robertson hates Corvairs. Not if he can somehow make a buck off them. Bob

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
20 PM Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hardly. Few in this world address their cause with more zealotry than our bretheren on the left. And even the pope is no more convinced of his infallibility than

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:08:32PM -0500, Bob Shell wrote: > > On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Mishka wrote: > > >frank, > >in usa, everything that's left of democrats is > >considered "far left". > >best, > >mishka > > > You mean it's possible to be left of a democrat? Will wonders never > cea

RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob W
How does one measure zeal? -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 February 2006 19:58 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE > > I think the activist left is a bit

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Mishka wrote: frank, in usa, everything that's left of democrats is considered "far left". best, mishka You mean it's possible to be left of a democrat? Will wonders never cease!! Bob

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
I'm a Canadian, so I view anything left of the NDP (Which Nader is left of, generally) as far left. -Adam Mishka wrote: frank, in usa, everything that's left of democrats is considered "far left". best, mishka On 2/15/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ralph Nader is far left? I al

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
That's what makes him more dangerous. -- Original message -- From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > > > I'd say equally zealous. There's precious little difference in my > > books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robe

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
I think the activist left is a bit more zealous than the hardcore Evangelicals, but it's a close call. -- Original message -- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hardly. Few in this world address

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
frank, in usa, everything that's left of democrats is considered "far left". best, mishka On 2/15/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ralph Nader is far left? > > I always took him for middle of the road. > > > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Carti

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I'd say equally zealous. There's precious little difference in my books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. There's a big difference. I once worked for Pat Robertson. Ralph Nader at least believes what he pr

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Adam Maas wrote: I'd say equally zealous. There's precious little difference in my books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. There's a big difference. I once worked for Pat Robertson. Ralph Nader at least believes what he preaches. Bob

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd say equally zealous. There's precious little difference in my books between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. Ralph Nader is far left? I always took him for middle of the road. cheers, frank -- "Shar

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say equally zealous. There's precious little difference in my books > between Ralph Nader and Pat Robertson in my books. > Ralph Nader is far left? I always took him for middle of the road. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois con

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hardly. Few in this world address their cause with more zealotry than our bretheren on the left. And even the pope is no more convinced of his infallibility than are the liberal idealogues. But that's true of many

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hardly. Few in this world address their cause with more zealotry than our > bretheren on the left. And even the pope is no more convinced of his > infallibility than are the liberal idealogues. But that's true of many of the > groups to

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
Adam Maas wrote: --snip-- Not imposing, trying to impose (they've not succeeded, closest they came was in getting Sharia added to the list of religious arbitration options ofr Family Law, the government responded by ending all religious-based arbitration). -Adam Note that this happened i

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
Mishka wrote: my comments inline, best, mishka On 2/15/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wahabbi extremist leaders is a guy named Osama Bin Laden. and just how did he impose his religion on the other countries? and on which? His stated goal is to impose Sharia on the entire world.

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Tom C
don't know about UK, but i am blanking trying to remember who was imposing sharia on who, here in the US. the mormons and jehova's witnesses, otoh, have been quite annoying in the supermarkets... Let's make sure we differentiate between holding a gun to your head and attempting to engage you

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
Hardly. Few in this world address their cause with more zealotry than our bretheren on the left. And even the pope is no more convinced of his infallibility than are the liberal idealogues. But that's true of many of the groups to which humans tend to migrate. I claim membership in none, but I

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
my comments inline, best, mishka On 2/15/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wahabbi extremist leaders is a guy named Osama > Bin Laden. and just how did he impose his religion on the other countries? and on which? > a major funder of the Taliban (Who were Wahabbist, > and portions there

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Juan Buhler
Now *that's* an army I would sign on for :) Sadly no, by definition, that's not it. And you know your analogy was worse than mine. j On 2/15/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Secular Humanism? > On Feb 15, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: > > > Neoconservatism? > > > > On 2/14

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread herb greenslade
Hi I don't know what this has to do with Minolta, but ... You're both right!!, Henry was upset that the Pope wouldn't annul his marriage to ? , so decided to be his own pope as it were. But I think it was Elizabeth 1, who actually concretized the schism mostly for political reasons. Other i

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/14/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It ruled the part of the world that mattered... > > It was a different part that mattered then... > Gautam, My comment was intended to be semi-humourous, and I should have put a smiley

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
Not the Saudi's as a nation (Although they do fund extremist Madrassas, whose students have become terrorists in a number of nations, including many of the foreign-born terrorists now operating in Iraq and they were the backbone of the Taliban), but you might note that one of the major Wahabbi

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
i suspected so... best, mishka On 2/15/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neoconservatism? > > On 2/14/06, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and which is that?

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
and how exactly do saudis impose their believes on the rest of the world? i don't remeber them invading any other country to impose sharia. best, mishka On 2/14/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Salafist wing of Sunni Islam, of which the Wahabbi's are the most > noticable. > > -Adam

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread dagt
> fra: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Feb 15, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Gonz wrote: > > > I actually believe that isolationism in the form of boycotts has > > the opposite effect intended. I.e. buying Chinese goods actually > > helps them move toward more freedom because of the injection of

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Gonz wrote: I actually believe that isolationism in the form of boycotts has the opposite effect intended. I.e. buying Chinese goods actually helps them move toward more freedom because of the injection of capitalistic ideas into their cultural fabric. This

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:16 PM, John Forbes wrote: And perhaps it's because those doing most of the bashing are from a Christian background themselves. It's within the family. I feel entirely at ease giving Christians hell, but would pause before meting out the same to those from other relig

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Secular Humanism? On Feb 15, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Neoconservatism? On 2/14/06, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and which is that? best, mishka On 2/14/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Demonstrably untrue. I'm not saying it wasn't true several centuries ago, but

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread David Mann
On Feb 15, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Bob Shell wrote: But for now I will remain as I am, equally irreverent to all religions. The first time I read that I thought you'd said "irrelevant"... but considering your view, maybe you are :) - Dave http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/ http://www.digistar.com/~dm

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread David Mann
On Feb 15, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote: Right now, for instance, there is a debate in the Australian parliament about the use of RU-486. Various groups are arguing various points of view (which I will not rehearse here because the issue is way, way, way OT) *but* the most easil

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Juan Buhler
Neoconservatism? On 2/14/06, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and which is that? > > best, > mishka > > On 2/14/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Demonstrably untrue. > > I'm not saying it wasn't true several centuries ago, but there's > > currently one religion making a greate

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Gonz
The same argument about the dollar was made about a decade ago when most of our foreign account deficit was with Japan. It never materialized and Japan went into an economic downturn that they have never totally recovered from. Juan Buhler wrote: On 2/11/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Gonz
I actually believe that isolationism in the form of boycotts has the opposite effect intended. I.e. buying Chinese goods actually helps them move toward more freedom because of the injection of capitalistic ideas into their cultural fabric. This helps break down some of the extreme forms of r

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Maas
The Salafist wing of Sunni Islam, of which the Wahabbi's are the most noticable. -Adam Mishka wrote: and which is that? best, mishka On 2/14/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Demonstrably untrue. I'm not saying it wasn't true several centuries ago, but there's currently one rel

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Mishka
and which is that? best, mishka On 2/14/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Demonstrably untrue. > I'm not saying it wasn't true several centuries ago, but there's > currently one religion making a greater attempt to impose its beliefs on > the rest of the world -- by force and fear of

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Butch Black
On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:58 PM, William Robb wrote: I thought they had broken away because some Henry or another wanted a divorce, and the RC Church wouldn't allow it. Yup. Henery the VIIIth, I am... Did Peter Noonan cause the split? Bob No, but before that incident the Hermits were a Gre

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Juan Buhler
On 2/14/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All ideas are fair game for criticism, ridicule and mockery; > people are not, necessarily. True. One problem though, is that people are usually so attached to their ideas as to call them "beliefs", and take it personally if you mock them. In that sen

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:44:09 -, Keith McGuinness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:18:17 -, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith McGuinness wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly v

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Keith McGuinness
John Forbes wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:18:17 -, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith McGuinness wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly verboten and speaking negatively of > the Muslim faith is frowned upon by the politica

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:18:17 -, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith McGuinness wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly verboten and speaking negatively of > the Muslim faith is frowned upon by the politically > correct, C

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Keith McGuinness wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly verboten and speaking negatively of > the Muslim faith is frowned upon by the politically > correct, Catholic bashing is not only appropriate, > it's a favorite diversion of "open

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:49:49 -, Keith McGuinness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly verboten and speaking negatively of > the Muslim faith is frowned upon by the politically > correct, Catholic bashing is

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Gautam Sarup
On 2/14/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It ruled the part of the world that mattered... It was a different part that mattered then... Cheers, Gautam

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Affirmation by Keith. On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly verboten and speaking negatively of > the Muslim faith is frowned upon by the politically > correct, Catholic bashing is not only

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Keith McGuinness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always find it amusing that while anti-semitism > is strictly verboten and speaking negatively of > the Muslim faith is frowned upon by the politically > correct, Catholic bashing is not only appropriate, > it's a favorite diversion of "open-minded" liberals. > Funny h

RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Bob W
> the good liberal > > Surely an oxymoron, Bob! > > > > -frank (an admittedly bad liberal) > a tautology, Frank. A tautology! -- Cheers, Bob > > >

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the good liberal Surely an oxymoron, Bob! -frank (an admittedly bad liberal) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread frank theriault
On 2/14/06, Lewis Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The question is did HCB have a Minolta CLE before the Reformation and did he > take a picture of the 95 Theses? Yeah, but it was a bit blurry... -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:58 PM, William Robb wrote: I thought they had broken away because some Henry or another wanted a divorce, and the RC Church wouldn't allow it. Yup. Henery the VIIIth, I am... Did Peter Noonan cause the split? Bob

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE While the Anglican's claim to be Protestant, they broke away over the Supremacy of the Pope, not over Doctrine (Anglican Doctrine is essentially Catholic, as is Or

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