Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-24 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 10:35:28AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: > ann sanfedele wrote: > > >earphones would be like being on a leash. > > Not if you got wireless earphones (they come with an infra-red > transmitter)! > Those ones are mostly useless - they require line-of-sight. Anytime they wo

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-24 Thread graywolf
r and I > have company tomorrow. > > Have a Merry! > ann > > > > Kenneth Waller wrote: > >> Ann >> Have you given earphones a thought? Probably a lot cheaper than some of the >> devices the list has suggested. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> &g

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-24 Thread Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote: >earphones would be like being on a leash. Not if you got wireless earphones (they come with an infra-red transmitter)! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-24 Thread ann sanfedele
ed. > >Kenneth Waller > >- Original Message - >From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting > > > > >>Automatic volume control? Used to be pretty much standard on AM Radios. >>Seems to have di

RE: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Simon King
ax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting If you want something to do what you want to do, then you are going to have to take steps to get it done. Of course its not going to be something so basic & simple as "plug in to your set" form. jco

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ann Have you given earphones a thought? Probably a lot cheaper than some of the devices the list has suggested. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting > Automatic volume control? Use

RE: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: >On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: > > > >>It's pretty easy to add to a design >&g

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Ah Cotty - I have that on my TV now - For the falling asleep process I just turn the radio next to my bed down really low for white noise -- it has to be people talking -- I have too much fo an emotional response to music. No, what I'm seeking is a way to keep the volume steady - with no peaks

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: >On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: > > > >>It's pretty easy to add to a design >> >> > >My AV Receiver has a "Midnight" setting; does this compress and is >this effectively what we are talking about? > >Kostas > > > I think I've encountered TV'

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Dave - the one here of late that falls into that category is one that is supposed to stop a headache and the same line is repeated over and over "BlahBLAH - apply directly to the forehead" serves them right I can't remember the product name It got into Jay Leno's monologue pretty soon I

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
I don't think I could just slap one of those on my TV, though... It would be worth going in to more credit card debt if I could :) ann Mark Roberts wrote: >Bob Shell wrote: > > > >>On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> >>>something I've been meaning to ask you electroni

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread ann sanfedele
Well it's nice to know it actually exists IF this were1985 I'd buy it in a second well maybe not, as it is kinda overkill - I only want it for the TV and "the whole house" in my case amounts to an apartment. And the separate power supply scares me. :) Thanks, Paul ! ann Paul Soren

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread graywolf
Automatic volume control? Used to be pretty much standard on AM Radios. Seems to have disappeared from modern audio. Rather simple circuit to build in, rather hard to add on. ann sanfedele wrote: > > Digital Image Studio wrote: > >> I'm a broadcast engineer (currently part time radio broadcas

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread David Savage
The last game I bought features "Niva for men" advertising. I LMAO when I first saw it, as it's one of those tough guy sneak-em-up espionage type games. Cheers, Dave On 12/22/06, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have a look at some of the modern games and how they embed commercials >

RE: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting On 22/12/06, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what I want someone to invent is a little gadget that you can apply > to your TV

RE: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Markus Maurer
, 2006 12:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting On 22/12/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Every commercial I've ever produced (around one hundred) had to > conform to an audio level set by the networks. What happens when th

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 22/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Right. They're just increasing the average volume of the sound in >> commercials, thereby increasing the perceived loudness. > >No by raising the average they are actually making it louder, if the >sound pressur

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 22/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Right. They're just increasing the average volume of the sound in >> commercials, thereby increasing the perceived loudness. > >No You're saying it *doesn't* increase the perceived loudness??? Come on! >by ra

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Cotty
Ann, Perhaps a simple solution would be one of those timer gadgets to plug the TV into at the wall socket, set to turn off (say) an hour after you settle down to watch something and subsequently doze off? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http:/

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/22 Fri PM 12:18:20 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: > > > Could be what I'm looki

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: > Could be what I'm looking for. Thanks. What did you google for? I didn't. I went into maplin.co.uk and searched for "SCART RF modulator". Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread mike wilson
Could be what I'm looking for. Thanks. What did you google for? > > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/22 Fri AM 10:15:49 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting > > On Fri, 22 Dec 20

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 22/12/06, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what I want someone to invent is a little gadget that you can apply > to your TV that keeps the volume absolutely at the same at all times once you > have > adjusted it to the level you can hear. If they can build rockets to go to > the

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: > It's pretty easy to add to a design My AV Receiver has a "Midnight" setting; does this compress and is this effectively what we are talking about? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdm

Re: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: > On a side issue: anyone seen a SCART/RF adaptor? I assume it would have to > be a powered black box. Can't find one anywhere. Like that? http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=33050&criteria=scart%20RF%20modulator&doy=22m12 Kostas -- PDML Pe

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/12/06, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what I want someone to invent is a little gadget that you can apply > to your TV > that keeps the volume absolutely at the same at all times once you have > adjusted it > to the level you can hear. If they can build rockets to go to the

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread David Mann
On Dec 22, 2006, at 6:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > So what I want someone to invent is a little gadget that you can apply > to your TV > that keeps the volume absolutely at the same at all times once you > have > adjusted it > to the level you can hear. If they can build rockets to go to the

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread David Mann
On Dec 22, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > But virtually all commercial broadcasters broadcast commercials at a > far higher compression than the program material so that the actual > volume on the receiver may increase by 3 to 6dB. The thing that really annoys me about advertisi

Re: Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-22 Thread mike wilson
> From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So what I want someone to invent is a little gadget that you can apply > to your TV > that keeps the volume absolutely at the same at all times once you have > adjusted it > to the level you can hear. If they can build rockets to go to the > moon

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Sorenson
Here's one, but it's pretty pricey. http://www.smarthome.com/77964.html -P ann sanfedele wrote: > > Digital Image Studio wrote: > >> I'm a broadcast engineer (currently part time radio broadcast) so I'm >> more than a little familiar with these issues. Each broadcast facility >> may have a set

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Digital Image Studio wrote: >I'm a broadcast engineer (currently part time radio broadcast) so I'm >more than a little familiar with these issues. Each broadcast facility >may have a set of adopted standards for advertising audio compression >and some even compress regular program material rly e

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/06, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: >commercial broadcasters broadcast commercials nearly a panindromewossnamethingy ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree the commercials are almost always louder than program content when broadcast. I just wanted to make it clear that it wasn't my fault:-). Seriously, I've also produced some commercials that weren't broadcast loud enough. Some were down quite a bit from the program content. The most p

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Every commercial I've ever produced (around one hundred) had to conform to an audio level set by the networks. What happens when the network techs load it on a cart is hard to say, but there is a defined standard for the original. Similarly there are other standards for colors, contrast lev

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/12/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Every commercial I've ever produced (around one hundred) had to > conform to an audio level set by the networks. What happens when the > network techs load it on a cart is hard to say, but there is a > defined standard for the original. Simil

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 22/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right. They're just increasing the average volume of the sound in > commercials, thereby increasing the perceived loudness. No by raising the average they are actually making it louder, if the sound pressure were measured by any integrating S

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote: > There's a limit to how loud a signal they can broadcast. 100% > modulation is the max, anything over just distorts. Actually, "percent" modulation isn't technically correct with frequency modulation (which is that TV audio is). You can theoretically increase the frequency

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread graywolf
Now that is technical bullshit raised to the N'th power. If you raise the average volume level you raise the perceived volume, period! I will give you the benefit of believing you read that technobable somewhere and did not have the knowledge to understand it. John Sessoms wrote: > > There'

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 10:13:47AM -0500, Bob Shell wrote: > >In my opinion just about the only good commercials on US TV > are GEICO. They are funny, creative, and they don't just make one > and run it endlessly. But nobody else in the ad business seems to be > paying attention.

RE: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread John Sessoms
Bob Shell wrote: > On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> I like to fall asleep with the TV on but even when I'm not planning on >> going to sleep >> and I'm watching something late at night in the bedroom, a sudden >> surge of >> comemrcial volume could get my neighbors in a sn

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob Shell wrote: >On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > >>something I've been meaning to ask you electronics types - >>is there a gadget you can attach to your tv to regulate the sound >>so that no matter how loud or soft the actual broadcast is you can keep it at >>the same dec

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote: >On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> something I've been meaning to ask you electronics types - >> is there a gadget you can attach to your tv to regulate the sound >> so that >> no matter how loud or soft the actual broadcast is you can keep >> it at the s

TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> > say what? > > actually I have a tiny little radio that has headphones > for traveling and a single earbud thing for my cell phone that > I keep losing. > > I have a phonograph and actually have a thing that plays CD's /tapes > and has > a