Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

finitely seems to be the best way. The question remaining for me is how to notify module authors who don't yet know about CPANTS? Oh, I guess you will say if someone wants to know on how to make his module better will find the resources including the modul-authors list and CPANTS. Gabor

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

On 31 May 2007, at 08:28, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Wouldn't it would be interesting if there were a multiplexing service for this sort of thing? E.g. maybe a system that allows you to subscribe to a personal mailing list of sorts in much the same way that you can get an rss feed for a given rt que

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

# from Gabor Szabo # on Wednesday 30 May 2007 08:58 pm: >I would like to be able to opt-in such e-mail >reports. >Similarly to how CPAN Testers send reports. Wouldn't it would be interesting if there were a multiplexing service for this sort of thing? E.g. maybe a system that allows you to sub

CPANTS reports in e-mail

I know many ppl here are against CPANTS sending out reports in e-mail to the authors but I would like to be able to opt-in such e-mail reports. Similarly to how CPAN Testers send reports. e.g. - if I upload a module that lost one of its metric since the last upload/analysis. - if I upload a

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

failed the most important > metric there is. If I had time to fix Test::Kwalitee, you could run that test *before* uploading a distribution to PAUSE, or on DarkPAN code. Not all of CPANTS has to run against publicly-uploaded distributions. -- c

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/29/07, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: demerphq wrote: > On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> AFAIK it is not Archive::Tar either. I have not found out which >> compression software packages do it right and which do it wrong. I >> have communicated with sev

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

demerphq wrote: On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK it is not Archive::Tar either. I have not found out which compression software packages do it right and which do it wrong. I have communicated with several authors about it but being Windows users, they do not know it

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

> On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:06:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: >> > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then >> > its not my problem anymore right? Wou

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

> On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:47:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:06:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 26 M

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

* Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 19:50]: > One of the very few reasons I maintain a Windows box here and > endure the pain (for me - subjective I know) that goes with it > is so I can test my modules against Win32. So do I. And yeah, I find it painful too. But it’s not open for deb

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:06:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: >> > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from no

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

# from demerphq # on Saturday 26 May 2007 10:45 am: >> Sorry, but it is *the _compression_ software's* bug. > >Fine, then what do i do about it? File a bug with Archive::Tar >(maintained by a non windows programmer)? This should be properly handled by the dist action of any sufficiently modern M

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 26 May 2007, at 19:06, demerphq wrote: I was out of line in how i put things. I apologise. Thanks Yves. I /still/ think it's pretty cool that basically we're all friends :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 26 May 2007, at 19:03, Gabor Szabo wrote: did you all wake up on the wrong side ? Could you please calm down? I can confirm that I'm spectacularly calm :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then > its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. Fine then. The fact that ExtUtils make dist automa

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then > its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. You know - you've kind of tickled a raw nerve here.

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. You know - you've kind of tickled a raw nerve here. One of the very few reasons I maintain a Windows box he

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/26/07, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 19:20]: > BTW, id say that if this is an issue for Unix users then they > should file a bug with the people that wrote their > decompression software and/or installer software. It's the decompression s

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

* demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 19:20]: > BTW, id say that if this is an issue for Unix users then they > should file a bug with the people that wrote their > decompression software and/or installer software. It’s the decompression software’s fault that it correctly preserves the data i

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 26 May 2007, at 18:16, demerphq wrote: I dont see it as being my problem as a Win32 developer at all. Im sympathetic to the annoyance it causes but to me its like opening a book written in a language you dont read and complaining that it isnt written in one you do. I mean if Win32 doesnt even

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/26/07, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 17:35]: > Can you explain this please? Why would the lack of a set x bit > on a directory prevent you from doing > > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test Yes. Im assuming this means "Yes it prevent

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

* demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 17:35]: > Can you explain this please? Why would the lack of a set x bit > on a directory prevent you from doing > > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test Yes. > Is this simply so you dont have to type 'perl'? No. The x bit on a directory determines

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

On 5/26/07, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some modules' tarballs don't set the x bit on directories, which makes it impossible for a non-root user to run Makefile.PL or the module's tests. The usual cause is that the author suffers from Windows, and the fix is to use '--mode 755' whe

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

* David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 16:45]: > I think it would be a good idea for CPANTS to check that > directories have the x bits set. ++ > This would either be a new metric +=0 > or could be rolled into 'extracts_nicely' ++ > or could be

CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

think it would be a good idea for CPANTS to check that directories have the x bits set. This would either be a new metric, or could be rolled into 'extracts_nicely', or could be combined with 'no_symlinks' and called 'uses_portable_filesystem_features' or something similar. -- David Cantrell

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

Hi! On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 03:56:03PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: > I'm trying to use Module::CPANTS::Analyse, with the theory that will > let me test modules locally without waiting for them to go through > CPAN. > .. > Whenever I feed this a module to test, it p

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

--- "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, it's not recommend to use the special $a and $b > > variables in this way […] > > I read “Michael Schwern” as the name of the original poster at > first and was really weirded out that you would lecture Schwern > like that. :-) I'v

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

Hi Ovid, * Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-15 17:05]: > --- Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > #!/home/mstevens/tools/perl-5.8.8/bin/perl > > > > […] > > You're not using strict and warnings. If you had, you might > have seen that […] However, $a would not have thrown an error > […

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

--- Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #!/home/mstevens/tools/perl-5.8.8/bin/perl > > use Module::CPANTS::Analyse; > use Data::Dumper; > > print "Analysing: " . $ARGV[0] . "\n"; > > open FH, ">/tmp/out" || die;

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On 4/1/07, Graham Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 31, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Yuval Kogman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote: >> uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which >> should deduct

Re: New CPANTS metrics

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 31, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Yuval Kogman wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote: uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which should deduct kwalitee IMHO. Hmm... reading into the other metrics, i

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 19:51:09 -0500, Graham Barr wrote: > Yes look at the date > > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 00:14:42 +0200 > > Seems like a few fell for it though :-) My excuse is that I'm jetlagged and I barely know what day of the week it is, let alone what the date is ;-) It was def. a good

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Sunday 01 April 2007 07:11, ReneeB wrote: > I dont't use vi(m) or emacs! There's a kwalitee ding for sure! -- c

Re: New CPANTS metrics

* Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-01 00:20]: > Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put > some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. Congrats on being _the_ _only_ _one_ to pull an online April fool’s prank, all day, that actually manage

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Mar 31, 2007, at 21:06, Shlomi Fish wrote: Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most advanced version control system: CVS? Are you kidding? Methinks you are not familiar with chromatic's sense of humor. Most people aren't, though, espe

Re: New CPANTS metrics

# from Andy Armstrong # on Sunday 01 April 2007 07:53 am: >Agreed. May I propose the additional requirement that the   >documentation contain a lengthy treatise on the benefits of true[1]   >object orientation? > >[1] For whichever value of 'true' the author prefers. Yes, but then it should also

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On 1 Apr 2007, at 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: uses_oo Shortcoming: Your code contains conditional statements (if, unless, or, ?: and so forth). This indicates that you do not have a firm grasp of OO principles and probably need to reread the GoF book. Remedy: Replace all you

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 01:29:59PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > I'm going to start using this once I can optimise it. It takes too > long to run at the moment > > sub if_then_else { > my ($cond, $true, $false) = @_; > return if_then_else(!$cond, $false, $true); > } > > You pass it a

Re: New CPANTS metrics

ursion, And the benefits of Subversion, If we all code the same, To play the CPANTS game, Then none may cast aspersion. Avril d'Poisson, 2007 -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: New CPANTS metrics

Eric Wilhelm schrieb: I'm looking forward to the source (must just be delayed by PAUSE.) I'm curious whether the mentions_kwalitee metric has any gaming-prevention. If I say "reduced kwalitee" in the changelog, does that count for or against me? Some of the new metrics can't be satisfie

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On 1 Apr 2007, at 10:36, Eric Wilhelm wrote: I'm looking forward to the source (must just be delayed by PAUSE.) I'm curious whether the mentions_kwalitee metric has any gaming- prevention. If I say "reduced kwalitee" in the changelog, does that count for or against me? I'm going to add the

Re: New CPANTS metrics

e >>> for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank >>> the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me >>> finish a big project on time (more on this later...)) >>> >>> So, the new CPANTS metr

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On 31 Mar 2007, at 23:14, Thomas Klausner wrote: Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish a big project on time (more on

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Saturday 31 March 2007 21:06, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sunday 01 April 2007, chromatic wrote: > > Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most > > advanced version control system: CVS? > CVS is not advanced as: > 1. Microsoft Visual SourceS

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Sunday 01 April 2007, chromatic wrote: > On Saturday 31 March 2007 15:26, Yuval Kogman wrote: > > uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which > > should deduct kwalitee IMHO. > > Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world'

Re: New CPANTS metrics

Oh, ++. On 3/31/07, Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On 31 Mar 2007, at 23:14, Thomas Klausner wrote: Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish a big project on time

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Saturday 31 March 2007 15:26, Yuval Kogman wrote: > uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which > should deduct kwalitee IMHO. Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most advanced version control system: CVS? -- c

Re: New CPANTS metrics

On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote: > uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which > should deduct kwalitee IMHO. Hmm... reading into the other metrics, it seems like you were kidding. My bad ;-) -- Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://nothi

Re: New CPANTS metrics

uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which should deduct kwalitee IMHO. -- Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 pgpsXwQhXSOWB.pgp Description: PGP signature

New CPANTS metrics

Hi! Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish a big project on time (more on this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics

Re: CPANTS spelling error, and incomplete coverage

David Cantrell wrote: > I just looked at the CPANTS thingy for one of my modules: > http://cpants.perl.org/dist/XML-DoubleEncodedEntities > > Apparently I should add a section to my documentation called "LICENSE". > There is already one called "COPYRIGHT and LICE

Re: CPANTS spelling error, and incomplete coverage

Hi! On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:59:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > I just looked at the CPANTS thingy for one of my modules: > http://cpants.perl.org/dist/XML-DoubleEncodedEntities > > Apparently I should add a section to my documentation called "LICENSE". > Th

CPANTS spelling error, and incomplete coverage

I just looked at the CPANTS thingy for one of my modules: http://cpants.perl.org/dist/XML-DoubleEncodedEntities Apparently I should add a section to my documentation called "LICENSE". There is already one called "COPYRIGHT and LICENCE". Note that the word is spelt cor

Re: CPANTS up and running again

>>>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:17:11 +0100, Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> said: > Hi! > CPANTS is now up and running again, with fresh data, which will be available > daily. (There might be a problem with UTF8 and the database, but th

CPANTS up and running again

Hi! CPANTS is now up and running again, with fresh data, which will be available daily. (There might be a problem with UTF8 and the database, but that should be solvable soon (especially as I know finally groked Unicode)). CPANTS now lives on a new server provided by hexten.net . Thanks!! You

Re: CPANTS?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6 Mar 2007, at 15:01, Christopher H. Laco wrote: It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) I had noticed a certain ... mobility :) - -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Gn

Re: CPANTS?

Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: > >> It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) > > It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own > server :

Re: CPANTS?

Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: > It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own server :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://do

Re: CPANTS?

Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: >> Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status >> of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. >> >> I'm trying to offer

Re: CPANTS?

Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: > Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status > of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. > > I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to b

CPANTS?

Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to be getting his mail just now either. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: What do I make of this CPANTS failure report?

A. Pagaltzis wrote: Hi all, I just got a failure report [1] on one of my modules that I don’t know how to read correctly. There’s only one line pertaining to an error of any sort, and it only mentions the type of error, but not where or how it happened. What I’d like to know first and foremost i

What do I make of this CPANTS failure report?

Hi all, I just got a failure report [1] on one of my modules that I don’t know how to read correctly. There’s only one line pertaining to an error of any sort, and it only mentions the type of error, but not where or how it happened. What I’d like to know first and foremost is whether the failure

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

* David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-13 10:50]: > Real men have their own OED at home. And still can't remember > when to use licence and license. Or practice and practise. > Stupid language. I made up my own mnemonic aid: You devise a device. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Michael G Schwern wrote: A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Philippe Bruhat (BooK) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-10 19:50]: The French often type "LICENCE" for "LICENSE", so it might be good to update the checking code to look for that too. I've got one of my distributions with that typo. Not because I reall

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 11:11:59AM -0600, Michael G Schwern wrote: > 1601 SHAKES. Twel. N. III. ii. 48 Taunt him with the license of Inke. > > SHAKESPEARE, BITCHES! Ah yes, Twelfe Night. Of course, everyone knows that Shakspere couldn't even spell his own name properly ... Out, damned spot!

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Philippe Bruhat (BooK) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-10 19:50]: The French often type "LICENCE" for "LICENSE", so it might be good to update the checking code to look for that too. I've got one of my distributions with that typo. Uhm, that’s proper English spelling. “Licen

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

* Philippe Bruhat (BooK) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-10 19:50]: > The French often type "LICENCE" for "LICENSE", so it might be > good to update the checking code to look for that too. I've got > one of my distributions with that typo. Uhm, that’s proper English spelling. “License” (as a noun) us

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Le vendredi 03 novembre 2006 à 06:01, Thomas Klausner écrivait: > > has_humanreadable_license does some where basic guessing if there's a > human-readable license (LICENSE file or pod-section). > The French often type "LICENCE" for "LICENSE", so it might be good to update the checking code to lo

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Hi! On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 06:58:11AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > But yeah, other than that, I agree, the metric should check that > META.yml conforms to the spec it says it conforms to, and that > a metric that checks for conformance to the latest version should > be a bonus, if it exists at a

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

* David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-06 05:40]: > I have to second this. There really shouldn't be separate > "conforms to 1.0" and "conforms to 1.2" metrics and so on. > What happens as the spec evolves? Unless the spec is broken, > encouraging specific "latest spec compliant" is just chu

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

On 11/6/06, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And realistically, Ken, Adam and I (maintainers of the major install tools) really control most of the META.yml generation anyway. If we don't upgrade, you don't upgrade. Well, that's not entirely true for things like "no_index" or var

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

David Golden wrote: > I have to second this. There really shouldn't be separate "conforms > to 1.0" and "conforms to 1.2" metrics and so on. What happens as the > spec evolves? Unless the spec is broken, encouraging specific "latest > spec compliant" is just churn and Kwalitee breaks if there's

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

On 11/4/06, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd say just check that META.yml conforms to whatever version of the spec it says it conforms to. If it doesn't have a version, assume 1.0. I have to second this. There really shouldn't be separate "conforms to 1.0" and "conforms to 1.

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: While discussing your module name is useful, I don't agree that having a blessing by a particular fiat is great or important. Or that finally having it blessed adds kwalitee, unlike adding other kwalitee metrics. -- Andy Lester => [EM

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

Steffen Mueller wrote: > David Golden schrieb: >> Maybe it would make sense to get DSLIP added to the META.yml spec >> instead. > > Andy and Schwern made a similar point. I agree with that. Harvesting ideas from DSLIP, not just plunking it into META.yml. As implemented its not very useful. >

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

Andy Lester wrote: > > On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Steffen Mueller wrote: > >> I am not talking about 01... >> >> But of course, we can agree to disagree on this even for 03... > > Either way, doesn't matter. It's an arbitrary distinction. Also, many > module authors don't even bother submitt

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

David Golden schrieb: Maybe it would make sense to get DSLIP added to the META.yml spec instead. Andy and Schwern made a similar point. I agree with that. Also, I agree that the original idea perhaps wasn't great - except for the fact that the blessing of the modules list maintainers *is* gre

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Steffen Mueller wrote: I am not talking about 01... But of course, we can agree to disagree on this even for 03... Either way, doesn't matter. It's an arbitrary distinction. Also, many module authors don't even bother submitting their modules to the list.

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

Steffen Mueller wrote: > Hi perl-qa, > > there's been a lot of discussion about CPANTS metrics in the recent past. > > How about a mandatory or optional metric for modules registered with the > modules list? Why is that a sign of (q|kw)alit(y|ee)? Because it means > t

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

Andy Lester schrieb: On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Steffen Mueller wrote: How about a mandatory or optional metric for modules registered with the modules list? Why is that a sign of (q|kw)alit(y|ee)? Because it means the author has the blessing of the module list maintainers as far as the cho

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

On 11/5/06, Steffen Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about a mandatory or optional metric for modules registered with the modules list? Why is that a sign of (q|kw)alit(y|ee)? Because it means the author has the blessing of the module list maintainers as far as the choice of namespace goes.

Re: CPANTS Metric: Module list?

On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Steffen Mueller wrote: How about a mandatory or optional metric for modules registered with the modules list? Why is that a sign of (q|kw)alit(y|ee)? Because it means the author has the blessing of the module list maintainers as far as the choice of namespace g

CPANTS Metric: Module list?

Hi perl-qa, there's been a lot of discussion about CPANTS metrics in the recent past. How about a mandatory or optional metric for modules registered with the modules list? Why is that a sign of (q|kw)alit(y|ee)? Because it means the author has the blessing of the module list maintaine

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 15:25]: >> metayml_conforms_spec currently very much busts the CPANTS >> game. I'm checking if the files comply to META.yml spec 1.2. >> Most don't, because they seem to use 1.0 >&g

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

* Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-03 15:25]: > metayml_conforms_spec currently very much busts the CPANTS > game. I'm checking if the files comply to META.yml spec 1.2. > Most don't, because they seem to use 1.0 > Should I switch to 1.0-checking? Is ther

Re: Sort by kwalitee, descending! (Was: CPANTS and META.yml)

* Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-11-04 04:55]: > Sorting by qualitee shows which modules the author loves at the > top and the neglected ones at the bottom. So there is only one > right sort order: by kwalitee, descending. Actually, by kwalitee, descending, then name, ascending. Rega

Sort by kwalitee, descending! (Was: CPANTS and META.yml)

> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 06:47:03 +0100, Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > Hi! > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:35:41PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: >> Question: how are the dists sorted on the /author/CPANID page? > Currently random (whatever the DB spits out), but I'll cha

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > I had some time recently and added some first META.yml checking to > CPANTS (with the help of Gabor Szabo): > > metayml_is_parsable > metayml_has_license > metayml_conforms_spec > > metayml_has_license now indictes whether there&#

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:00:58PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Oh so THAT'S where all those reports of "-e META.yml not found" were > coming from. Module::Starter is being naughty and putting META.yml > into the MANIFEST before it exists. Well, after fixing this by removing META.yml

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hmm, I tried to do that (I usually use Module::Build): > > ~$ module-starter --module=FooTest --author='foo' --email='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Created starter directories and files > ~$ cd FooTest/ > ~/FooTest$ perl Makefile.PL > Checking if your kit is complete... > Warning:

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:47:36AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > meta-spec: > url: http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec-v1.2.html > version: 1.2 The 'problem' is that this field was introduced in 1.1, and it seems that quite a lot of dists use 1.0 of META-spec. My

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

On 11/3/06, Christopher H. Laco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > meta-spec: > url: http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec-v1.2.html > version: 1.2 The one caution I'd give is around "no_index". The spec always called for "dir" for directories, but CPAN/PAUSE were checking for "d

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Michael G Schwern wrote: > Christopher H. Laco wrote: >>> Files that declare: --- #YAML:1.0 should pass the 1.0 spec >>> Files that declare: --- #YAML:1.1 should pass the 1.2 spec >> err... >> Files that declare: --- #YAML:1.2 should pass the 1.2 spec >> >> I know what I meant. :-) > > I tho

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Christopher H. Laco wrote: >> Files that declare: --- #YAML:1.0 should pass the 1.0 spec >> Files that declare: --- #YAML:1.1 should pass the 1.2 spec > > err... > Files that declare: --- #YAML:1.2 should pass the 1.2 spec > > I know what I meant. :-) I thought that was the version of YAML

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Chris Dolan wrote: > On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: > >> metayml_conforms_spec currently very much busts the CPANTS game. I'm >> checking if the files comply to META.yml spec 1.2. Most don't, because >> they seem to use 1.0 >> Should

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:35:41PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: > Aha, since I have your attention... :-) > I've been meaning to suggest the following changes, on the best and > worst reports pages: > > This distributions got the most Kwalitee: > --> These distributions have the most K

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > I had some time recently and added some first META.yml checking to > CPANTS (with the help of Gabor Szabo): > > metayml_is_parsable > metayml_has_license > metayml_conforms_spec > > metayml_has_license now indictes whether there&#

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

Christopher H. Laco wrote: > Chris Dolan wrote: >> On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Thomas Klausner wrote: >> >>> metayml_conforms_spec currently very much busts the CPANTS game. I'm >>> checking if the files comply to META.yml spec 1.2. Most don't, because &

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