bpa;474960 Wrote:
Since the BBC has announced they will be stopping RealAudio streams by
30 March 2010 (with the exception of World Service) - BBCiPlayer is the
preferred plugin for users of BBC and as such AlienBBC has been removed
from Plugin main list.
Why do you need the RealAudio
QNAP users only - If BBCiPlayer Listen Again doesn't work but you can
play the station http:///www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls then try the
replacement RTMP.pm replacement file in this post.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=483508postcount=53
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Chaps - I am loving your work :-)
Would it be possible to get the plugin to scrobble to last.fm? At the
moment nothing shows there, but the station info would be great, but the
track info would be fab!
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MunichMelly;477443 Wrote:
Only very few of my iplayer items will play.
The ones which play seem to have a URL displayed (e.g.Listen Live - BBC
Radio 1Xtra). The majority of items only have a picture and a
description but no URL, and do not play (e.g. Listen Live - BBC Radio 1,
or any of the
There seems to be many people still having the same problems i.e.
BBCiPlayer not playing listen-again streams on a QNAP (e.g. see
http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?...t=20869#p91145 ) but I can't
actually find any bug report
Please do not lump problems together just because they have
Sorry don't understand how to change the directory!?
Have loaded squeezecenter 7.4 on my laptop (with vista) and it works
(Iplayer installs), except most BBC programmes won't play...
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When you have a command prompt window open (it usually has white text on
a black background).
At the prompt type in the following and press return/enter.
cd \Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
The above assume an English Windows installation and Squeezecenter
I haven't changed anything, I put 7.4 on my laptop but this is to do
with my PC :-) This is what I got after typing 'faad':
C:\Program
Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-threadfaad
*** Ahead Software MPEG-4 AAC Decoder V2.7 **
Patched for SqueezeCenter
That shows faad.exe is OK. It looks like your problem is not caused by
the usual sources.
Since the illstreet48.pls also fails - it indicates the problem is in
the SC transcoding which involves faad.exe but it is not clear why it is
failing. So it is necessary to get some more detailed log
bpa;480500 Wrote:
Are in the UK or not ? Only AAC will work if you are outside of the
UK.
Can you play this stream on your system - it will test AAC playback.
http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
Bryan - I'm only getting snatches of this - with constant re-buffering.
Could be my
A lot of QNAP users are having this problem. It feels like the
processor is overloaded and cannot decode and re-encode the stream in
realtime.
To lighten the processing load but this will increase network traffic -
try disabling the encoding of AAC into Flac. So in WebUI
bpa;480571 Wrote:
A lot of QNAP users are having this problem. It feels like the
processor is overloaded and cannot decode and re-encode the stream in
realtime.
To lighten the processing load but this will increase network traffic -
try disabling the encoding of AAC into Flac. So in WebUI
[BPA, taking your informormation regarding our Qnap devices i've ordered
a Sheevaplug to use as a server.
it's quite a powerful device and with a lot of reading /trial and error
i hope this will improve my Squeeze performance,which is rather limping
along at the moment!.
dennis
I believe a QNAP should be able to play AAC streams provided
1. The faad is built using the fixed point option
2. the AAC streams are played as PCM and not transcoded into MP3 or
FLAC
I believe The Sheevaplug processor has no floating point which will
mean that any transcoding into MP3 or Flac
Hi Triode.
Can I ask for yuur help as you seem to be the expert on this?
I posted this earlier:
-Firstly, my apologies if this is covered eésewhere, but I am not that
technical and am getting a bit confused...
I live outside the UK (Switzerland) and have rcently downloaded
Squeezecenter 7.4
Outside of the UK, you need to have AAC support working on your
Squeezecentre in order to play BBC Listen Again.
Please try the following stream as it will test AAC support separate
from BBCiPlayer plugin
Http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
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Thanks for that, this does play in my VLC player, how does this relate
to Squeezebox? Do I save it and then see if I can access it from
Squeezebox? Sorry for all the questions.
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Does it play on your Squeezebox player ?
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I can't find it even though I saved in my music folder. where should i
save it so that I can test it out? The link you sent me downloaded only
a 1KB .pls file (whatever that is?)
Simon
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Paste into the Tune-In box in the WebUI and press play.
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Looks like it's playing on the web thing, but still saying 'connecting'
on my squeezebox... oh now it's says it's playing on the squeezebox but
it's frozen at 0.00...
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This worked straightaway! :-) So what do I need to do now?
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Are you using bit rate limiting to your player ?
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bpa;480728 Wrote:
Are you using bit rate limiting to your player ?
Not knowingly - is there a setting I can check?
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For bit stream limiting check WebUI Settings/Player/Audio
Another possibility - is this a very clean XP system with no additional
MS apps installed ?
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bpa;480764 Wrote:
For bit stream limiting check WebUI Settings/Player/Audio
Another possibility - is this a very clean XP system with no additional
MS apps installed ?
It says under Audio 'you do not appear to have LAME installed`- do I
need this? It sounds vaguely familiar from when I
Lame is only needed for bit rate limiting - which means it is probably
OK.
Specifically do you have any of MS Office installed - Word, Excel,
Powerpoint ? If so what version. I think a library may be missing.
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Yes have all those - Microsoft Office XP. Where do I look for
libraries? Would ever have guessed that. PS thanks for all your help!
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Please try to run the program faad.exe (it decode AAC) to see if
libraries are the problem.
1. Open a Command prompt windows (XP Start/Accessories/Command Prompt
2. Change directory to the directory which has faad.exe. On English
Windows it is in C:\Program
I've just upgraded my SSOTS and SC to the latest versions as below-
iPlayer was working just fine before on SSOTS 3.15 and SC7.3 Getting the
same symptoms - no sound on any feed from iPlayer although the Duet
display shows all the right things. No sound on my Boom or squeezeplay
either.
Are in the UK or not ? Only AAC will work if you are outside of the
UK.
Can you play this stream on your system - it will test AAC playback.
http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
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Triode;470508 Wrote:
With the advent of 7.4 and the changes to BBC stream availablity we
would like to migrate users to the BBCiPlayer plugin for BBC content.
Bryan (bpa) and Adrian (Triode)
Bryan and Adrian hello.
You have done a wonderful thing. With your tiny niche AlienBBC
Just added BB iPlayer to the set-up detailed below, and it seems to work
pretty well.
Comments:
a) iPlayer seems to have solved the constant rebuffering that I have
been getting using Alien to play live streams.
b) iPlayer output is definitely a notch quieter than the Alien
equivalent.
c) I'm
BPA,i'm really starting to enjoy the wee radio.but i'm missing one
important constituent i used extensively with previous incarnations of
BBCiPLayer...the listen again function is not working here.
i can select a program from last week and it (the radio) displays the
lovely colur icon and
If some programs play and others do not - then it is likely to be a BBC
issue.
Have you disabled any audio formats in either BBCiPlayer settings or
SBS Filetypes ?
Can you give a specific example of a program that doesn't play and that
was broadcast at least 24 hrs ago.
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MunichMelly;477443 Wrote:
Only very few of my iplayer items will play.
The ones which play seem to have a URL displayed (e.g.Listen Live - BBC
Radio 1Xtra). The majority of items only have a picture and a
description but no URL, and do not play
bpa;477481 Wrote:
Can you play the following
I'm at a loss.
AAC support on Linux was not standard in 7.3.2 so something has been
added to your system which is non standard but enabled AAC support.
SSOTS is a special build of SC with a lots of things added and changed
to suit the QNAP systems.
To stream BBC in AAC you need a special
bpa;477524 Wrote:
Since the AACplus stream seems to work and you are on 7.3.2 - AACplus
was not part of SC build.
What have you installed to handle AACplus - is it the AACplus plugin ?
If you are not sure - do you have a filetype AACplus or AACP under
WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes and
MunichMelly;477517 Wrote:
The iPlayer problems also occur when running squeezecenter on my P.C.
bpa;477539 Wrote:
I'm at a loss.
To stream BBC in AAC you need a special version of faad and I don't
think your setup has it.
I also have an independent squeezecenter installation (v7.3.2) on
MunichMelly;477893 Wrote:
I also have an independent squeezecenter installation (v7.3.2) on my
Windows Vista p.c.; i.e. I can connect my Squeezebox to this server
which then leaves QNAP and linux completely out of the game.
I believe it needs to be 7.3.3 to have support for AAC radio
Triode;477908 Wrote:
I believe it needs to be 7.3.3 to have support for AAC radio streaming.
I would upgrade this server before using it to test iplayer. Ideally
you upgrade it to 7.4.1, but 7.3.3 should work.
After upgrading to 7.3.3 on the vista machine iPlayer now seems to
work.
Thanks.
The BBCiPlayer plugin will appear as BBC iPlayer under the Internet
Radio menu. If you do not have the BBC iPlayer menu - restart SBS and
also check your install.
In the BBCiPlayer Menu you have Listen Live - under this submenu are
all the live streams.
In the BBCiPlayer Menu you also have
Thanks for giving your time, especially on a Sunday.
The BBCiPlayer plugin will appear as BBC iPlayer under the Internet
Radio menu. If you do not have the BBC iPlayer menu - restart SBS and
also check your install.
In the BBCiPlayer Menu you have Listen Live - under this submenu are
all the
Thefailed to parse message is usually associated with network problem
and the inability to get the program info from BBC. Sometime caused by
security s/w other time by network timeout.
What OS are you using ?
If Windows what security s/w ?
Does the problem happen if security s/w is uninstalled
This stuff takes longer than I have now, BPA. Thanks, though, and should
revert soon. NK.
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read other feed you need version 2.6 of alienbbc. Now works as Alrighte
describes (nice work!).
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Does BBCiPlayer work outside of UK?
Is there a summary of alien bbc features not supported in the
BBCiPlayer plugin?
I'm considering updating to Squeezebox Server 7.4.1 but am worried
about losing bbc (non-live) programmes if I change my current setup.
Squeezebox duet
QNAP 209 pro
SSOTS version
BBCiPlayer works outside the UK and on SS 7.3.*.
Is there a summary of alien bbc features not supported in the
BBCiPlayer plugin?
Is this necessary since there will be no choice after March 2010.
Basically categories, schedule are not there now in BBCiPlayer and
program availability can
bpa;476815 Wrote:
BBCiPlayer works outside the UK and on SS 7.3.*.
Thanks for the Infos. I've tried installing the BBCiplayer plugin (via
extension downloader) both on my QNAP209pro and also on my Vista PC, but
the non-live programs don't appear to work on either platforms. When I
select
I tried the above stream and it plays perfectly on my QNAP TS209 with
SSOTS4.1 and SS4.7.1 - I can't get any sound out of BBCiplayer
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Qnap ts 109 has SoC 500Hhz processor. I bought the box for this purpose
be sad if it can't do aac feeds.
If I disable aac filetype then will my ITunes library play ok?
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I think 500Mhz processor might be borderline to decode AAC and re-encode
into Flac particularly if the processor does not have floating point
support.
Try playing this 128k AAC stream - radio Paradise
http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128aac-2.m3u
If I disable aac filetype then
Hello
I am having a problem with listen again - live works fine. I also had
the same issue with several 7.41 interim builds - the last time it
worked was with the 7.4 [but that once suffered form the multiple
instances problem].
I see all the program listings and can choose a progam - but
Some changes are needed to AlienBBC as BBC have stopped some RealAudio
and the version no needs to be updated for 7.4.1.
The categories issues is a limitation placed by BBC I have an idea
which may provide a similar feature for BBCiPlayer but putting effort
into maintaining AlienBBC means new
Having upgraded to 7.4 SSOTS 4.1. Neither Iplayer nor AlienBBC works:
Alien BBC whines about not having mplayer - I presume this has been
removed by SSOTS?
Iplayer does everything apart from making any sound - no error message
- just no sound.
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Use BBCiPlayer as BBC are stopping RealAudio in March 2010.
Are you in the UK ?
What sort of player are you using ?
If you are on SSOTS and using an older player (i.e. not SB Radio or
Squeezeplay) - make sure SSOTS has the faad and flac that have been
built with the patches that come with SBS.
I'm in the UK. I've installed 7.4 using SSODS 4.1. Was hopefully this
would have the latest sound drivers.
It's strange there are no errors the picture appears but just no sound
and no errors on the duet.
How do I update faad flac easily?
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SSODS creator has to ensure the flac and faad issues as it require a
special build.
As a test - can you play this AACplus stream - if it works then faad
and flac are OK.
http://www.somafm.com/illstreet48.pls
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Kinda works - just get constant rebuffering. But there is sound
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That SOMAfm stream is 48k - the BBC streams are typically 128k for UK
listeners so your system may mot be able to handle transcoding the
higher speed better quality Flash / AAC.
You didn't say what sort of player you but assuming you do not have an
SB1 or older, then you could try disabling
Sorry I have a Duet system with SB3 box. I've disabled AAC feed from
settings, but same thing happens.
Surprised can't handle 48k stream - I have a 10MB connection and QNAP
nas would of thought it would work? hmm mystery
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[09-10-22 23:45:33.4302] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning:
[23:45:33.4240] 'apps/cbc/index.html' is not the same as
'(?-xism:apps/cbc/index.html)' at
/share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/SSOTS/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Web/Pages.pm
line 131
Having checked the log I keep getting loads of the above
That comes from the CBC App - nothing to do with BBCiPlayer.
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One reason for using Alien is that occasionally I find programmes that
are available on Listen Again in AlienBBC but not in iPlayer.
It's a BBC issue, not an iPlayer one, as those same programmes can't be
downloaded to my computer using iPlayer Downloader.
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The BBC create the Web pages from the schedule info and so the assigned
program id are usually known when Web page are available so AlienBBC
knows a program id even before the program is broadcast and so it can
start playing it as soon as the program file has been created.
BBCiPlayer uses the
Alien seems to have better Favourite handling of streams, especially
with alarms.
The only other reason I'd like to keep the Alien functionality over
iPlayer these days is that occasionally I encounter other real audio
streams and I believe Alien is the only way to play these on my
SqueezeBoxes.
The better Favorite handling will go away when BBC stop RealAudio
streams in March 2010 - the real solution is to fix SBS alarm handling
of streams.
If you want to wake up to live BBC streams - I suggest using the WMA
streams.
It is the intention to create two Plugins - one for RealAudio
Thanks for your reply. Out of interest, how do you expect the changes
the BBC will implement when they retire Real Audio in March to change
the behavior of the newer streams with Alarm functionality? I'm puzzled
as to the connection between these two events.
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Alien seems to have better Favourite handling of streams, especially
with alarms.
When the BBC retire RealAudio, AlienBBC will not show any menu items as
there will be no RealAudio URLs provided so you will not be able to set
alarm based on Alien entries/Favorites.
Once RealAudio is gone,
I run a QNAP 209 and have just completed the upgrade to SS7.4.1. I can
not get BBCiplayer to work, fails to connect. I have tried the SS
inbuilt radio straeams and they work. What am I missing?
My guess is that it is someting to do with the stream?
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Thanks for asking for opinions on this. It would be really good to
update the alarm functionality so it can support regular favorites from
the iPlayer plugin.
I also notice that even trying to play a simple stream directly using
7.4 with AlienBBC fails:
You have installed AlienBBC 2.6b1 ? AlienBBC 2.5 now only works for
7.4beta up to about August 09.
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Ah, okay I just installed the version from the 7.4 plugin downloader
which looks like v2.5 Where's the later version?
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Since the BBC has announced they will be stopping RealAudio streams by
30 March 2010 (with the exception of World Service) - BBCiPlayer is the
preferred plugin for users of BBC and as such AlienBBC has been removed
from Plugin main list.
Why do you need the RealAudio streams when there are
With the advent of 7.4 and the changes to BBC stream availablity we
would like to migrate users to the BBCiPlayer plugin for BBC content.
To support this, I have removed AlienBBC from the recommended 3rd Party
repository for the moment. The current version does not actually
support 7.4 and
My only question is the ability of BBCiPLayer to provide links to the
Alarm Clock. Right now I have each morning's Wogan show set as a
playlist, the SB Alarm calls that playlist and Wogan Wakes us up in the
morning.
Will I still be able to do this with BBCiPlayer?
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My only question is the ability of BBCiPLayer to provide links to the
Alarm Clock. Right now I have each morning's Wogan show set as a
playlist, the SB Alarm calls that playlist and Wogan Wakes us up in the
morning.
There is a limitation with the alarm functionality which
I notice on another of your posts that version 0.9 of iPlayer has been
recently made available and that you say to go to the plugins options on
7.4 to get the latest version. On my squeezecenter plugins information
BBC iPlayer shows as v0.4 and I have the option ticked to upgrade
plugins
Did you install BBCiPlayer manually? I suspect this is the problem - so
please remove it and restart the server so the plugins page says it is
not installed. Then select to install from the recommended repo.
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Thanks, I did that - I just physically removed the plugin directory and
restarted then installed and now have 0.9d. Now it works, but only if I
select the programme from the web interface (maybe it always did, I
don't normally use the web interface). If I use the squeezebox 3 remote
to select
OK, it seems to be working now, maybe I just needed to be more patient
for it to refresh its cache or something like. Thanks for you help.
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Triode;470556 Wrote:
There is a limitation with the alarm functionality which means you can't
use a favorite to store the BBCiPlayer station for an alarm. Instead do
the following: Play the stream you want to listen to on the player
then set the alarm using current playlist as the alarm.
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