Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:40:52 -0500
From: Vickie Lucero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Rolling Stone Network: Live- The Asylum Street Spankers
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Music the way God intended it.
Asylum
Louisiana is good.Are we homies?
Anyway, I spoke on this topic with my friend Dave, the guy who first
schooled me on the difference between hip-hop and rap. And though I
honestly couldn't care less if anyone thinks the Beasties are hip-hop, I
have a few parting words:
Do the Beasties
. They are making white music for
white
people. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't hip-hop.
Dude. Dude. Dde. Put on "Liscence To Ill." There are some
major f*cking beats and grooves on that record, which a black man
should be so lucky to put together.
Just because your black does
--
From: JP Riedie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: All The Way Down
Date: Fri, Apr 23, 1999, 3:44 PM
And i said they are not making music from a hip-hop cultural
perspective
Why don'y you quit reading that pencil dick stuff and go find some people
to
I want insight into why the only people I meet wh0 hope for a resurgence of
"Southern Rock" are all from north of Virginia ( a state still quite
suspect)
John Friedman writes:
Jon Johnson:
*One* guitar player?!?!?! Hell, John, why don't you just tell us
they were recruiting for the
Pushing aside the arbitrary (and silly) nature of this shellgame, tell me
why it shouldn't be:
Perry Farrell (who commercialized the most interesting aspects of Nirvana's
"revolution")
Dr. Dre (who made rap safe for white people; God bless Eminem)
U2 (who legitimized dance music for young
Seriously -
It's Dr. Dre. With NWA he took rap music from party music to street poetry
with a documentarian stance. Unlike Public Enemy he got his message across
without being pedantic. This legitimized "gangsta" rap to the critical
establishment AND opened the door for hip-hop's dominance of
Unfortunately, I think we're gonna have to include Garth here. Hie's
touched alot of lives and his sales alone prove that. I think he's
sold more records/discs than The Beatles or some unfathomable figure.
Let's see if those records are selling thirty years from now. I don't
think you get
On the rap tip, The Sugar Hill Gang pretty much invented it, so
Also, for the 90's The Beasties deserve a shout out...
-JF
The Beasties have made a couple of great records. But they have more in
common with Pearl Jam than with any rap artist. You can make rap music and
still have no
In my dream Michael jackson grew up, maturing into a soulman a la Marvin
Gaye. No surgery, no wierdness.
Er, ah, "a la Marvin Gaye" and "no weirdness" don't belong in the same
paragraph.
Good point. but Marvin was more "troubled" than "weird". Still, I hope
you got my drift.
Now that's an erudite summation. But I still can't get my head around
Cobain as artist of the decade. His creative achievement, though jarring
and influential, doesn't compare to that of the other serious contenders.
Besides, the eight year old who runs my house, his seventeen year old
The Beasties have made a couple of great records. But they have more in
common with Pearl Jam than with any rap artist. You can make rap music and
still have no idea what hip-hop is. The Tibetan concerts are alterna fests
because that's the Beasties audience. They have zero influence on the
Jon,
Do you think that we could say with some confidence that this prove's Garth
Brooks makes music according to the lowest common denominator?
BTW - does anyone know how well Garth boy does internationally?
Garth also made deals with certain chains (very large ones - Target,if I
remember
The local hip-hop promoter is a buddy of mine. He has lectured me over
chronic many times about the difference between rap and hip-hop. As far as
I can remember hip-hop is a cultural movement (analogous to rock and roll
in the fifties) while rap is simply a form of music. The primary elements
Just an additional heads-up ...
Getting this was a real coup for the Spankers. If you've seen them and
have friends in the Huntington area, please alert them to this show. If
you haven't seen them, be sure to tune in.
April 25--7pm Joan Edwards Playhouse Huntington, WV
PATTY GRIFFIN
In a message dated 4/20/99 1:07:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the
Millennium,
Mozart or Prince.
slim
Do you need a favor from me or something?
...then you can make fun of my hair...
Us follicly-challenged folks generally stay away from that.
Besides, John, I'm the one who makes fun of your hair. Do try to keep your
p2 nemeses straight. g
--Amy
Now if I could only remember what YOU look like... g
Damn, Don, you're playing so much James Hand that I'm worried you'll be
sick of his voice by the time the new album hits your mailbox.
In a message dated 4/14/99 1:14:26 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks Jon. I'm sorry for taking it so personal. I'll buy you a drink in
St. Louis, then you can make fun of my hair and I'll keep very quiet.
Why wait til St. Louis? Describe your hair to us so we can start making fun
Interested musicians must be incredibly badass. In fact, unless you have
chops to burn, don't bother.
Gee, and here I thought that feeling would have to be the number one
qualification
Would you please go find a life. I have a band in crisis here and I
certainly don't need every
If you're going to Kerrville DO NOT MISS the Spankers there. They always
pull out all the stops at Kerrville. Their last performance there received
an extremely long standing ovation that convinced Rod to break with his
strict protocol and allow the band to play well past their allotted time.
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Stevie Simkin wrote:
Never have I had such a strong impression of critics' band-wagon-jumping
as I have done with this cd.
Instead of maligning those who have a different opinion about the CD, you
might just wanna chalk it up to different tastes. I very much doubt the
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, JP Riedie wrote:
Don, my love, you must admit there's a creepy unanimity among the critics
regarding this release. There a definitely lemmings afoot.
Hmmm. Well, I always find it interesting when folks perceive a "lemmings"
affect when the music in question is
Anyone notice how excruciatingly boring this record is?
Ask around and you'll be told that this is one of the most amazing live
acts you'll ever see. So go and then tell me how much fun you had.
4/2 Shim Sham Club - New Orleans
4/3 Shim Sham Club - New Orleans
4/4 Hi-Tone Lounge - Memphis
4/5 Hi-Tone Lounge - Memphis
4/7 12th and Porter - Nashville
Hey Don,
hope you had a great time. It was good to see you. Looking forward to June.
Now, how do I get back onto P2. Were you in on the plot to drop me from
the list while SxSW had me distracted?
Don't I qualify as an Austinite? I realize I've only lived here for twelve
years Or maybe I don't qualify as a P2er... Well, either way, I'll
be around and looking forward to seeing everyone everywhere I go.
James Hand:
Wednesday, 10 PMBroken Spoke
Thursday, 6PM Under
Does Broken Spoke do wristband admission during SXSW, or are they
independent of the whole thing? I have hazy and contradictory
memories on this one g
--junior
Although your memories are probably hazy from the drink, the Spoke's SXSW
role is usually confusing. For many years they remained
Because I'm in a bad mood, this whole post really pissed me off. Can it
really be that your entire self-worth is predicated on The Gourds and what
others think of them? That's pathetic. This is the Damnations shot. How
petulant and prissy of you to stomp your feet and hold your breath because
Biller and Wakefield (in the spirit of Speedy West and Jimmy
Bryant's hot country-jazz duets),
Dave Biller is a genius. His playing all over the new Asylum Street
Spankers record is sublime and his production on the upcoming James Hand
record is astounding. If you ever are visiting Austin on
May be old news but I just heard that Richard Buckner and MCA have
parted ways.
Bill Lavery
http://villagerecords.com/
If you're looking for confirmation, I can tell you that Buckner is indeed
the lateset victim of "Unigram"
Will Miner wrote:
It's been 16 years since Thriller and 15 since Purple Rain, 12 since
Sign O The Times. None of them has been snip ... influential on the
hip and new in a while. Even the Prince clones are old history.
Um, Beatles clones were old history a lot longer ago but does that
This may explain the stunning mental agility displayed by folks on this
list
A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo,
and when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the
back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd
In a message dated 99-02-10 18:27:31 EST, you write:
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought the KKK originated in lovely east Texas, specifically the town
of Vidor. I'm referring to the area north of scenic Beaumont, near the
Louisiana border. There is a trio of small
Austin Texas Gourd Kevin Russell got his 'odd hat' stolen back stage
over in Europe. He didn't wear it on stage; it was only for practical,
everyday use.
--Matt Cook
So does Matt Cook exist? Or is he a publicist's creation? Every time I
see the Gourds at the Electric Lounge I ask soundguy
Don't know if this came up last week, but I just heard on the radio that
Weiss is the inspiration behind Rickie Lee Jones "Chuck E.'s in Love."
And it's a bit of info that Chuck's often considered an albatross. Hopefully
this new album will redefine how folks think of him. It is quite a
NP: Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band "The Mountain"
Maybe it's just 'cuz it's new, but geez, I really didn't think he could
top "I Feel Alright" but this seems to do it.
Those of you just dying to get ahold of a copy of "Shadows..." let me know
and I'll see what I can do. There are very few left and distribution is
more than spotty. Also, there is some debate over who controls the
recording. If you can wait until June his new album will be out.
In a message dated 1/21/99 4:05:46 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James Hand's Shadows Where The Magic Was (100% hard country -- could be
better produced, but shows lotsa potential),
I spoke to Dave Biller a week ago, and he is producing Hand's new album. That
should
There's a story developing here regarding the current state of
"Americana."
(TM)Who's going to write it? (c'mon Mr. Slack - tell it like it is)
Caution: the following are assumptions, though I suspect close to the truth:
Someone probably wanted Americana to still be Americana - in other words,
Of course, what we really need is our own Nirvana. After hearing a bit of
their new recordings and considering their slight but important impact at
mainstream country with "California Angel" I'm thinking maybe The
Derailers are the right horse on which to bet.
Therein lies the problem. The
I'm counting on everyone to stop wishing alt-country will "blow open,"
since the continual frustration of that hope seems to me to be causing
some of the genre's stalwarts to falter a bit. There'll be events like
Lucinda's much-hyped (but not so much bought) 1998, but I think
But see, that's the thing...there's never going to be an
"Alt-Country Nirvana" because fifteen year-olds don't generally listen to
Steve Earle or Dale Watson or even the Old 97's. Let's face it, folks:
this P2 bag, this Americana/Alt-Country/Roots-Rock thing that gets
discussed here? It's
JP writes:
2) I'm not talking about Son Volt et al. I'm talking about
converting teenagers already into country from crapola to good
country etc Kind of like Dwight, Clint, Randy and Steve saved
country from Kenny Rogers in 1986 (of course Garth ruined all that.)
Isn't the title of this post oxymoronic ? g
I was shocked to see a reviewer even stop and think about such things.
Without blowing anybody's cover, I can say without reservation that the
relationships between musicians and the writers who review and cover them
are generally a whole lot closer
reason #235:
Christina Marrs singing "Weary Blues from Waiting" with Dale Watson and his
Lone Stars at Ego's Tuesday
reason #236:
The Hot Club of Cowtown sitting in with The Spankers last night at the
Electric Lounge
reason #237: tonight - Beaver at the Continental
reason #238: it's 62
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