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brucegrr;559249 Wrote:
> This forum predates Logitech's purchase of Slim Devices by many years.
> (though I assume Logitech owns this forum domain)
>
> In the old days I am not sure if the "forum" was considered an official
> support forum but the CEO and staff at Slim Devices participated on th
rajm;559244 Wrote:
> _until_ I got it through my head that this was not an official forum.
>
This forum predates Logitech's purchase of Slim Devices by many years.
(though I assume Logitech owns this forum domain)
In the old days I am not sure if the "forum" was considered an official
support
I've been lurking on and off for about 2 years now. Don't think I've
ever posted b/c usually I've been able to find the answer I was looking
for in one of the threads. In any case, in all that time I had no idea
this was NOT an official Logitech forum until reading through this
thread. I have
mherger;557283 Wrote:
> Please let's let this thread die now and forever. Nobody is going to win
> a useless battle, neither Junior nor Senior. Thanks.
Sorry I didn't see that.
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First of all: I didn't bother reading the entire thread. Just a few
pages of it.
But this is how I observe the "senior members" (whatever defines that)
act when someone screams that their SB is a PoS:
They let the poster know that noone at Logitech reads this forum anyway
(except ofcourse the oc
Please let's let this thread die now and forever. Nobody is going to win
a useless battle, neither Junior nor Senior. Thanks.
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Thanks for the thread reference. The OP implied this was a major
problem. So, is his post the result of one thread or a large number of
threads?
Each of us responds to things differently. Generally, I try to help
those I can. (and my skill set is not anywhere near some of the senior
members on th
brucegrr;557238 Wrote:
> (whom you refuse to name or give any illustration of your charge)
Bruce - I think Nazgul is talking about the thread starting here:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77459&page=10
If one looks at it one might find the posting of iPhone a bit offending
(th
Nazgul;557200 Wrote:
> Well, I guess I'm done with this, I think I made my point and defended
> it quite well. For those that took my words to heart I hope that
> things change. To those that attacked me and childishly put me on
> their ignore lists, you know what I think of you at this point,
brucegrr;557234 Wrote:
> I asked the original poster:
>
> Time to put up here..Please give some specific examples of what you
> are complaining about. I am willing to give you the benefit of the
> doubt...Point us to the exact posts that you believe are so offensive.
> This will allow us all
I asked the original poster:
Time to put up here..Please give some specific examples of what you
are complaining about. I am willing to give you the benefit of the
doubt...Point us to the exact posts that you believe are so offensive.
This will allow us all to see the context AND who wrote th
You've got to be kidding. I actually doubted myself for a second and
re-read everything I wrote, pretty dang civil I think for all the
attacks made on me for defending my point.
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Nazgul;557200 Wrote:
> Well, I guess I'm done with this, I think I made my point and defended
> it quite well. For those that took my words to heart I hope that
> things change. To those that attacked me and childishly put me on
> their ignore lists, you know what I think of you at this point,
Well, I guess I'm done with this, I think I made my point and defended
it quite well. For those that took my words to heart I hope that
things change. To those that attacked me and childishly put me on
their ignore lists, you know what I think of you at this point, and I'm
glad I exposed some of
Very effective indeed. Ahhh.
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maggior;557160 Wrote:
> Please make it STOP!!!
Huh? Make what stop?
Come to think of it, I'm not sure I want to know. But if some user is
bothering you, you can always ignore him/her. The instructions on how
to do it are to be found earlier in this thread. :) I assure you, it is
very effective
Nazgul;557143 Wrote:
> And fantastically that's led to all these attacks and claims that I'm a
> troll. I hope that makes sense to someone here.
Nothing fanstatic about it at all...makes 100% sense to me.
Please make it STOP!!!
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funkstar;557134 Wrote:
> So lets be clear, you are also contradicting what you are trying to
> argue in this thread then?
>
> If "all opinions are valid and worthy" then so are those of the "senior
> users" that you disagree with.
>
> This thread is redundant*
>
>
>
> *also a valid and wort
Hands firmly over ears. Too funny.
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Nazgul;557089 Wrote:
> This is a public forum and all opinions are valid and worthy of the disk
> space they take up.
So lets be clear, you are also contradicting what you are trying to
argue in this thread then?
If "all opinions are valid and worthy" then so are those of the "senior
users" that
tcutting;557095 Wrote:
> That's OK... the whole "ignore" thing for me was actually anonymously
> unsolicited as I haven't been actively participating in this thread...
> but as posted in another thread, my sanity is already improving by
> seeing certain posts hidden by the line "This user is on y
tcutting;557095 Wrote:
> That's OK... the whole "ignore" thing for me was actually anonymously
> unsolicited as I haven't been actively participating in this thread...
> but as posted in another thread, my sanity is already improving by
> seeing certain posts hidden by the line "This user is on y
iPhone;557078 Wrote:
> I didn't get the "New" Forum Rules. Guess it didn't get sent out to
> Senior Forum Members. And thanks for the heads up but didn't you
> *-Just-* violate the New Rule #1 by telling me about the new rule?
>
> One of those endless code loops ;=}
That's OK... the whole "igno
Phil Leigh;557065 Wrote:
> Now I'm replying to you.
>
> This "service" of which you speak - what is it exactly? Nothing appears
> to have changed...
>
> People still come here for help and where possible they get it.
> People still come here with issues that can't be addressed via the
> forum c
Phil Leigh;557071 Wrote:
> iPhone - you have just violated (new) Forum Rule #1 - never offer
> unsolicited help to another member.
>
> Anyway, thanks for tip... :-)
I didn't get the "New" Forum Rules. Guess it didn't get sent out to
Senior Forum Members. And thanks for the heads up but didn't
iPhone;557072 Wrote:
> Somebody using it might know more how it actually works.
see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79851
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It does show the post, but the only text you'll see is:
> This message is hidden because (name of troll) is on your ignore list.
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iPhone;557072 Wrote:
> By everything do you mean the Forum, no it doesn't.
>
> I don't use it, but one would think that it would act as a filter and
> just not show the posts in threads of a Forum Member that is in 'your'
> ignore list. So I would think one would see a whole in the tread
> seque
iPhone;557063 Wrote:
> Phil, Its easy to add a Troll to the Ignore List. Goto User Control
> Panel, scroll down to Edit Ignore List, click, add Troll to the list,
> save, then enjoy the lack of Forum Noise.
iPhone - you have just violated (new) Forum Rule #1 - never offer
unsolicited help to ano
brucegrr;557066 Wrote:
> Does this block them from everything then?
By everything do you mean the Forum, no it doesn't.
I don't use it, but one would think that it would act as a filter and
just not show the posts in threads of a Forum Member that is in 'your'
ignore list. So I would think one
Nazgul;557050 Wrote:
> You're a genius if you completely remove what I've been saying from the
> context in which it was delivered. And I would bet there are some
> folks here that would argue that I have done more of a service to this
> forum than a boatload of technical posts. It's also inter
iPhone;557063 Wrote:
> Phil, Its easy to add a Troll to the Ignore List. Goto User Control
> Panel, scroll down to Edit Ignore List, click, add Troll to the list,
> save, then enjoy the lack of Forum Noise.
Does this block them from everything then?
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Phil Leigh;557057 Wrote:
> I haven't figured out how to do that yet - I've never needed to until
> now...
> Anyway, I wasn't replying to you.
Phil, Its easy to add a Troll to the Ignore List. Goto User Control
Panel, scroll down to Edit Ignore List, click, add Troll to the list,
save, then enjoy
Phil Leigh;557057 Wrote:
> I haven't figured out how to do that yet - I've never needed to until
> now...
> Anyway, I wasn't replying to you.
Same here.I have never used the ignore function so I am not even sure
how it works.
All I know is that the Squeezebox forum is becoming a place that I no
Nazgul;556995 Wrote:
> I thought I was on your ignore list? And again Phil, this is not your
> forum and it's not a private forum, it's a public forum for a consumer
> product. You are not "them". "Them" is all of the old users and the
> new users who deserve to be able to say what they'd like
brucegrr;557041 Wrote:
> Really?Yea, really.
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garym;557049 Wrote:
> The "senior members" being accused of bad behavior have hundreds of
> posts helping complete strangers resolve issues with their squeezeboxes
> (with quite a success rate it appears). Nazgul doesn't have a single
> post assisting another user; it appears that 100% of his pos
The "senior members" being accused of bad behavior have hundreds of
posts helping complete strangers resolve issues with their squeezeboxes
(with quite a success rate it appears). Nazgul doesn't have a single
post assisting another user; it appears that 100% of his posts have
been merely to compla
Nazgul;556985 Wrote:
> Wow, you guys are a treat, nothing like attacking the messenger. This
> is a fine example of what I would like to see stop, and I think almost
> all of you are represented. Bravo!
Glad we could help you with your Squeezebox related problem. :)
The Backoff problem you ar
Thank you..Nazgul
All you said needed to be said.
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garym;556986 Wrote:
> It's called having a sense of humor. The actual point of this thread was
> over 30 posts ago. You made your point, others made theirs. Free speech
> is a good thing. But now its time to move on to actually helping users
> in the community with potentially solvable problems
Phil Leigh;556752 Wrote:
> This post is informative...
>
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=556362&postcount=101
>
> 4 years is a long time to lurk amongst the community. Not that I have
> anything against lurking (I do it myself on a small number of other
> forums) - but then again
Nazgul;556985 Wrote:
> Wow, you guys are a treat, nothing like attacking the messenger. This
> is a fine example of what I would like to see stop, and I think almost
> all of you are represented. Bravo!
It's called having a sense of humor. The actual point of this thread
was over 30 posts ago.
Wow, you guys are a treat, nothing like attacking the messenger. This
is a fine example of what I would like to see stop, and I think almost
all of you are represented. Bravo!
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Phil Leigh;556759 Wrote:
> Hmmm... Nazgul, Trolls Balrog anyone?
Oh boy, I wasn't even thinking about that. Ok, what better than this
to signal that the end of this thread is near. (and by the way, loved
the books/movies...)
"The Nazgûl, also known by many other names, were evil servants o
Hmmm... Nazgul, Trolls Balrog anyone?
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Phil Leigh;556752 Wrote:
> This post is informative...
>
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=556362&postcount=101
>
> 4 years is a long time to lurk amongst the community. Not that I have
> anything against lurking (I do it myself on a small number of other
> forums) - but then again
I'm post #36 I believe. That's about 35 replies too many to the original
post. Obviously, I can't help myself either (tried for a day), but the
old internet discussion board adage of "don't feed the trolls" is
particularly appropriate here.
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This post is informative...
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=556362&postcount=101
4 years is a long time to lurk amongst the community. Not that I have
anything against lurking (I do it myself on a small number of other
forums) - but then again I wouldn't dream of then joining them J
Nazgul;556672 Wrote:
> Are you all so proud that you can't simply not tell people to stop
> posting without ending your helpful posts as well?
>
Besides that you don't seem to really listen to what people say in this
thread, I'm not quite sure I understand what you are trying to say.
As I unde
>
> Nazgul;556422 Wrote:
> Trying to shut people up on a forum is wrong.
And how is what you are suggesting different in any way? You are correct,
it's a forum. How annoying that it has more than just one side.
Do not fear, however, plenty of 'seniors' have already gone away rather
than contin
Nazgul;556422 Wrote:
> I'm not saying the senior people should vanish, I'm saying that the
> folks who tell other people that their comments have no place here need
> to stop. This is a FORUM. It is for discussion by definition, positive
> and negative. Trying to shut people up on a forum is w
0xdeadbeef;556534 Wrote:
> The problem is not the constructiveness (or lack thereof) of posts which
> deal with problems of the Radio, but the fact that the same few
> "seniors" hijack every such thread and destroy it by uttering the same
> non-helpful stuff. And every time they are told how poin
I am of the opinion that constructive requests for help have always been
welcome here. ALWAYS.
What is not welcome is the constant bitch*ng, moaning, groaning, and
Logitech bashing that goes on when someone has a problem, thinks they
have a problem, or is just plain frustrated and is looking for
I've kind of expressed my thoughts on another thread but as someone who
may be considered a "senior member" here is my 0.02.
Ranting, venting, expressing frustration with Logitech or the
Squeezebox line of products is to be expected on this or any other
related product forum. I personally dislik
As someone who has benefitted from the advice from this forum, and a
relatively new user, can I add my tuppenceworth?
I can see both sides of this debate - there does seem to be a lot of
negative hyperbole about products. However, I do believe that it is
useful for some of this infomration to be
Are you all so proud that you can't simply not tell people to stop
posting without ending your helpful posts as well? That's kind of sad
really, and I guess it shows the true nature of your "help": it comes
with the condition that you be allowed to mistreat new users.
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erland;556526 Wrote:
>
> Anyone that doesn't want my help can just ask me to put them on my
> ignore list, I'll be happy to add more people to it. If you don't want
> to ask me you can always just put me on your ignore list in your forum
> profile settings.
I always forget about this great feat
As a person not new to support forums but new to this forum I know I'm
going to regret this. Anyhow, some unsolicted observations:
1. Both sides of the issue are at opposite ends of the same stick. If
both sides would let it drop, the stick will probably go away on it's
own.
2. Having particip
The problem is not the constructiveness (or lack thereof) of posts which
deal with problems of the Radio, but the fact that the same few
"seniors" hijack every such thread and destroy it by uttering the same
non-helpful stuff. And every time they are told how pointless it is to
put the blame on th
Nazgul;556432 Wrote:
> Look, if you people want to setup a private forum to discuss this stuff
> then by all means do so and set all the rules you want. This, however,
> is the public forum for a consumer product and all discussion about the
> product, positive and negative, is valid whether you
Nazgul;556434 Wrote:
>
> The bad apples are the ones we all know about, and therefore, I didn't
> think I needed to name names.
>
I'm guessing I'm considered to be one of them...
I've already expressed my thoughts earlier and and they have been
repeated by bluegaspode earlier in this thread.
The sensible thing for a user who wants to vent at the products is to do
it in the official Logitech forums, where there is a chance Logitech
will see it. I propose that any threads that start with a rant (or
perhaps any posts that rant) receive *one* single post in reply
containing a nice friendl
Might be a surprise, but this forum's intention is not primarily to make
-you- happy. It is a place for the community. And if the community gets
upset since Logitech completely messed the software and is unwilling
and/or unable to fix it in 8 months, then it is no surprise that this
becomes a less
Let me see,
Do I want to visit a forum that is primarily full of people who are
a) struggling to get their SBs working as they wish them too and are
mostly bitching, moaning & complaining. or
b) people with a great deal of experience and technical knowledge who
are very happy with their SBs an
bluegaspode;556442 Wrote:
>
> Oh by the way - remember your first post ;) :
Exactly why I haven't named names and am reluctant to be more specific
than "senior users". And please, putting quotes around words does not
always entail direct reference, it can also express generalities, like
"reason
Nazgul;556432 Wrote:
> This, however, is the public forum for a consumer product and all
> discussion about the product, positive and negative, is valid whether
> you like it or not. The silencers in the crowd are the annoyances, not
> the complainers.
I think you have a very valid point here.
You are all missing the point. There's every point in using this forum
to get help, advice etc from the community and to raise/discuss issues.
There's no point in coming here for any kind of official
advice/support/warranty issues/venting your spleen about how
disappointed you are with something,
0xdeadbeef;556429 Wrote:
> Well, there are senior members and senior members. Indeed it's only a
> small club of senior members who try to scare away people with a a
> non-euphemistic opinion on SB products. Then again, if this soothes
> you, even a senior member is not welcome to utter the truth
Look, if you people want to setup a private forum to discuss this stuff
then by all means do so and set all the rules you want. This, however,
is the public forum for a consumer product and all discussion about the
product, positive and negative, is valid whether you like it or not.
The silencer
Well, there are senior members and senior members. Indeed it's only a
small club of senior members who try to scare away people with a a
non-euphemistic opinion on SB products. Then again, if this soothes
you, even a senior member is not welcome to utter the truth about the
Radio here.
Each and ev
pfarrell;556397 Wrote:
> And how, pray tell, can one know that a posting is useless without
> reading it?
Brilliant! You got me. I am completely invalidated.
pfarrell;556397 Wrote:
>
> Clearly you can't understand what you are reading. We are not trying to
>
> censor or silence anyone. Wha
I'm not saying the senior people should vanish, I'm saying that the
folks who tell other people that their comments have no place here need
to stop. This is a FORUM. It is for discussion by definition, positive
and negative. Trying to shut people up on a forum is wrong.
And let me be specifi
Nazgul;556368 Wrote:
> I think your context is a little skewed with this jab. Think about what
> I wrote and what you're insinuating. Valid?
I am insinuating nothing. I am asking you to look in that mirror too.
People who live in glass houses...
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The fact is that SBR (and related talk) schould be taken elsewhere. The
proper place would be the Duet forum..
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On 06/20/2010 07:19 AM, Nazgul wrote:
>
> I've been reading these forums for a bit now and I see a pattern of BS
> coming from some "senior members" that try to control how people
> discuss the SBW. Look, if you folks don't like reading negative
> comments about the radio then feel free to not rea
bluegaspode;556335 Wrote:
> Hi Nazgul,
>
> I for my part only tell members that repeat their rants over and over
> again that I don't want to listen to it anymore, because this doesn't
> help to get their problems solved. Neither on the short nor the long
> run.
>
> And even telling those user
Phil Leigh;556341 Wrote:
> Physician, heal thyself.
I think your context is a little skewed with this jab. Think about
what I wrote and what you're insinuating. Valid?
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Nazgul;556323 Wrote:
> If you don't like it then feel free to say so, but telling people they
> shouldn't write it is WRONG. This is a public user forum, if people are
> posting about the SBR then they are in the right place no matter what
> they say as long as it meets the forum rules. Every
Hi Nazgul,
I for my part only tell members that repeat their rants over and over
again that I don't want to listen to it anymore.
And even telling those users that their complaints were better
somewhere else in my opinion is a way of helping them (thats the reason
I'm here - to help them) - bec
I've been reading these forums for a bit now and I see a pattern of BS
coming from some "senior members" that try to control how people
discuss the SBW. Look, if you folks don't like reading negative
comments about the radio then feel free to not read them or possibly
comment about how you disagr
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