This made me laugh because, unfortunately, MOG's 'Just for you' function
doesn't actually work with the Squeezebox system! Sure it lists albums
for you, but they are only based on stuff you've listened to directly
through the MOG web interface and not via your Squeezebox system, so its
use is act
mherger wrote:
> Therefore we mostly rely on our partners to do the smart things.
> MOG's "For you only" feature, Pandora, Last.fm etc. all have some kind
> of
> "we know what you like" algorithm.
This made me laugh because, unfortunately, MOG's 'Just for you' function
doesn't actually work
Actually, that's more or less exactly what I would like, I like to have
You're already a Last.fm scrobbler, aren't you? The trend, whether you and
I like it or not, is online streaming. The collector who has thousands
(I'm not even talking about tens of thousands!) of tracks on his disc and
But then I could imagine an extension to UEML (3rd party or not!) to get
some Random Play like feature by eg. providing a static long playlist
instead of a dynamically always updated list. Start it once a day to get
you going with some random 100 tracks or similar. More smarts could be
Is the pe
mherger wrote:
>
> There are technical implications here. Eg. Random Play needs to know all
>
> of your collection to build the mixes - but you wouldn't want to upload
>
> all your library information to uesr.com (and we wouldn't want to manage
>
> it :-)).
>
Actually, that's more or less e
mherger wrote:
> > Thanks for the clarification Michael. I presume then that if there
> was
> > enough demand then Logitech could implement the random play facility
> by
> > enhancing the playback options via uesr.com later on?
>
> There are technical implications here. Eg. Random Play needs to
Thanks for the clarification Michael. I presume then that if there was
enough demand then Logitech could implement the random play facility by
enhancing the playback options via uesr.com later on?
There are technical implications here. Eg. Random Play needs to know all
of your collection to b
pippin wrote:
> I did and it works. That's why I made the suggestion on the Logi forum.
Missed that ? Sad why don't they back port the solution to LMS it is
more or less a www that is the difference ?
Ok this sets the bar for the " maintanance " level on mysqueezebox.com
then :-/
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so it should then be an easy fix on the LMS side ??
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Mnyb wrote:
> I'm not sure that it is fixed , they do announce the LMA functionality
> but did they really test this :) I played the devils advocate when i
> wrote that tread on the UE forum and assumed that it worked, no answer
> yet ;)
>
> Can anyone with an UE Radio actually test this ?
>
TheLastMan wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification Michael. I presume then that if there was
> enough demand then Logitech could implement the random play facility by
> enhancing the playback options via uesr.com later on?
>
> Looking at the official forums I note that the Live music archive app
mherger wrote:
> But I doubt anybody wants to discuss a sale :-)
>
eBay, then? :-P
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Thank you for your answers about scrobbling and playlists. Now if there
will be an iPeng version to UE Smart Radio too then I'm a little calmer.
It would be hard to live without iPeng :)
My plan for the future was to buy another Radio and then maybe a Touch
any real speakers. Hopefully similar UE
nieldm wrote:
> Thanks for that. So for me with 3 SB classics they will at some stage
> stop working.correct?
Yes, at some stage they will stop working (along with your body, the
planet, etc.) ;-) Seriously though, hard to say. If the hardware
works and you run your own LMS on a local co
garym wrote:
> spotify, rhapsody, mog, pandora, etc. No, I think the plan is for all
> these to work with the UE Smart Radio. Regarding when stuff will stop
> working, no official comment other than that they expect to keep
> supporting mysb.com, bug fixes for LMS, and this forum.
Thanks for t
nieldm wrote:
> Does this also spell the end for plugins such as Spotify and Rhapsody? I
> am assuming the answer is yes.
>
> I will read the entire thread before asking when we can expect stuff to
> stop working as I am sure it has been asked.
>
> Marc
spotify, rhapsody, mog, pandora, etc.
Does this also spell the end for plugins such as Spotify and Rhapsody? I
am assuming the answer is yes.
I will read the entire thread before asking when we can expect stuff to
stop working as I am sure it has been asked.
Marc
mherger wrote:
> > If it -is- still possible to install a plugin
didjean wrote:
> As a massive Squeezebox user (owner of 8 players), I won't be upgrading
> and/or buy and/or promote UE devices unless they would find a solution
> for
> - Random Mix
> - Playing local music without internet
> - Synch with new/old devices.
>
> I really understand they want t
mherger wrote:
>
> The fact that you still can install plugins doesn't help with the
> problem
> that many plugins would no longer work, as they were designed to control
>
> the player in some way, or get information out of the player object.
> This
> is no longer the possible, as all playe
Michael. If there were a party interesting in acquiring or licensing
rights to LMS. Who should they contact at logitech? I appreciate that
you might not want to publish this information, but could you PM me or
email me through my registered email
Check LinkedIn. But I doubt anybody wants to disc
mherger wrote:
> > If it -is- still possible to install a plugin then I think many of us
> > will breathe a sigh of relief! Half of the issue for many is the
> loss
> > of plugin functionality like random play, last.fm, BBC iPlayer etc
>
> The fact that you still can install plugins doesn't hel
If it -is- still possible to install a plugin then I think many of us
will breathe a sigh of relief! Half of the issue for many is the loss
of plugin functionality like random play, last.fm, BBC iPlayer etc
The fact that you still can install plugins doesn't help with the problem
that many pl
pippin wrote:
> This is not entirely true. There is still everything in there you need
> to install a plugin, you would just have to do that manually.
Really?!?
I thought the web interface had gone? If so how would you install a plug
in? Presumably we are talking command line stuff here, SSH or
TheLastMan wrote:
> I can see why Logitech are not interested in us. How many of their
> customers:
> a) have more than one Squeezebox and
> b) have a private music collection large enough to need to run a
> dedicated music server and
> c) have a "weekend place" and
> d) need -another- dedicated
TheLastMan wrote:
>
> Simples!
Dear Aleksandr,
Please compare these two roasted meerkat recipes.
Love, Ian.
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garym wrote:
> yes. So with LMS, you had to run a local server to play local music, but
> didn't need the internet. Now, you still need to run a local program (UE
> LMS) and can't play any local music unless you ALSO have a live
> connection to the internet. Certainly not a good thing for my use
TheLastMan wrote:
> Probably not, at least not scrobble -everything- you play. Scrobbling
> was made available via a plugin to LMS. Plugins will no longer be
> available.
This is not entirely true. There is still everything in there you need
to install a plugin, you would just have to do that ma
fridberg wrote:
> Ehmm, does it mean that I will be required to run a server, AND it will
> connect to the internet everytime I want to listen to a song locally ?
yes. So with LMS, you had to run a local server to play local music, but
didn't need the internet. Now, you still need to run a local
bluegaspode wrote:
> Yes, you will still be required to run the "UE Media Server", to access
> the files on your NAS.
> When it is running, the library just appears under "My Music". You can
> even run a secondary server on your main PC (don't know if that makes
> sense) and it will be just one m
sadglad wrote:
> Hi, I only have a SB Radio (I listen to all my music in my home through
> it) so this doesn't have to be the end of the world for me but I have a
> couple of questions.
>
> 1. Can the new Radio scrobble music to last.fm?
Probably not, at least not scrobble -everything- you play.
ARTMU wrote:
> Does killing SB line indicates end of all my (our- SB lovers) devices.
> I just love SB3 white genuine Slimdevices version that is like my first
> SB family baby I will never sell. I have less attachment to the
> Controller and the Squeezebox Receiver but it is my music family I
>
To be precise, it's another menu _level_ which is an utter nuisance. So
you'd better only use one server.
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fridberg wrote:
>
> Will I still be required to run a app on my synology NAS? Or can I
> uninstall it, and just use the new page to administer my file shares and
> so on ?
Yes, you will still be required to run the "UE Media Server", to access
the files on your NAS.
When it is running, the libra
I have tried to read all the entire thread, but some parts didn't seem
relevant to me, so I skipped them. I'm wondering whether this "upgrade"
will be a problem for me (if I decide to take the UE firmware).
I urrently have a squeezebox radio.
I use it for spotify, listening to internet radio and
Osamede wrote:
> Actually Logitech should have put more effort into licensing to AV
> receiver makers higher end models ( specifically allowing them to build
> in the Squeezebox streaming system and perhaps even the touch control
> interface). Then kept the mono radio business on its own alongsid
Does killing SB line indicates end of all my (our- SB lovers) devices.
I just love SB3 white genuine Slimdevices version that is like my first
SB family baby I will never sell. I have less attachment to the
Controller and the Squeezebox Receiver but it is my music family I
cannot live without. I
sadglad wrote:
> Hi, I only have a SB Radio (I listen to all my music in my home through
> it) so this doesn't have to be the end of the world for me but I have a
> couple of questions.
>
> 1. Can the new Radio scrobble music to last.fm?
>
> 2. Can I make playlists with a mix of local music and
Actually Logitech should have put more effort into licensing to AV
receiver makers higher end models ( specifically allowing them to build
in the Squeezebox streaming system and perhaps even the touch control
interface). Then kept the mono radio business on its own alongside that.
And put more eff
squishy wrote:
> So, I personally think that it would be insanity to not have an
> audiophile product as a fast-follower of the radio.
I'm none too sure Logitech agrees with you on that. The whole Squeezebox
product line began as a way to do audiophile (in those days, defined as
using lossless f
TheLastMan wrote:
> Actually these are mainly just rebranded items previously available from
> Ultimate Ears before they were bought out by Logitech. They are a brand
> that previously only sold items for music on the move (earphones,
> headphones and portable speakers). The Radio is probably t
pallfreeman wrote:
> Logitech exec #1: Hey, if Apple can do it, why can't we?
>
>
>
> Logitech exec #2: Yeah! And we could sell them the tracks for $5 each!
Surely they already skim something off for all those paid/sub apps ...
???
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Osamede wrote:
> Instead they are busy trying to build some sort of 3rd rate walled
> garden.
Logitech exec #1: Hey, if Apple can do it, why can't we?
>
> Doomed to fail.
>
Logitech exec #2: Yeah! And we could sell them the tracks for $5 each!
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autopilot wrote:
> This I agree with, sadly. Have you seen that odd UE intro video for the
> new brand? It's bizarre. There is a company that has absolutely no idea
> what they are doing. It's a confusing mashup of products, some
> Bluetooth, some based on Squeezebox, some tacky looking earphones
Osamede wrote:
>
> Logitech has no clue. What they need to do is focus on making
> outstanding hardware, provide a nice interface and the platform for
> people to create and - then get out of the way. Instead they are busy
> trying to build some sort of 3rd rate walled garden. Doomed to fail.
>
erland wrote:
> This community represents a tiny part of all Squeezebox users.
>
You may be right of course. If there is a legion of radio-only users out
there who are content with the sound of one small speaker and very litte
bass, then by the same token the UE radio should sell like hot cakes
Hi, I only have a SB Radio (I listen to all my music in my home through
it) so this doesn't have to be the end of the world for me but I have a
couple of questions.
1. Can the new Radio scrobble music to last.fm?
2. Can I make playlists with a mix of local music and music from spotify
and save t
alfista wrote:
> The concept is a bit different though. Ye olde SB was initially designed
> to have a local server (I believe the first devices only ever worked
> that way), later MySB was added to the mix and provided some backend
> support for various services and it also acted as a limited fea
didjean wrote:
>
> - The website naming: "uesmartradio.com" (they didn't think of the
> future when choosing such a URL)
>
Not necessarily, it depends on your interpretation of the world "radio",
they could introduce "UE Smart Radio for HiFi", it's just that when they
say "radio" we are thinkin
Logitech seems to make make wrong suggestions on their product WEB site
about UE smartradio. After reading the Technical Specifications, an
un-educated reader might expect to buy a stereo radio, which I think it
isn't.
> Technical Specifications
>
> GENERAL
>
> 2.4-inch color LCD
> Ambient ligh
TheLastMan wrote:
> Logitech cannot comment, because they never comment on products in
> development, but if there is not -at least- one more UE
> "usesmartradio.com / UE Music Library" (UEML?) device available before
> December I will eat my proverbial hat. Personally I would like to see a
> "T
TheLastMan wrote:
> You are Logitech's ideal customer for the UE Smart Radio. But you won't
> need to buy one, Logitech have provided a way of simply upgrading the
> firmware of your current Radio to the new UE system (sometime in the
> next year or two, no need to panic yet!!) and you will be ab
umapati wrote:
> Don't know what others feel, but I am a die hard user of
> mysqueezebox.com to play internet radio endlessly.I have stored nos of
> stations in favorite and using other application like Spotify, Tune in
> radio,Shoutcast & others.I was very happy as it doesn't force me to keep
>
Gealt wrote:
> There is a precedent, Freecom brought out a ir, MusicPal, c 2007. They
> dropped the product about 2 years ago yet they they continue their
> support on the Freecom forum. Unfortunately they are not as successful
> as Castalla on his Reciva forum in repelling the spam merchants.
Don't know what others feel, but I am a die hard user of
mysqueezebox.com to play internet radio endlessly.I have stored nos of
stations in favorite and using other application like Spotify, Tune in
radio,Shoutcast & others.I was very happy as it doesn't force me to keep
any pc ON only for the sak
There is a precedent, Freecom brought out a ir, MusicPal, c 2007. They
dropped the product about 2 years ago yet they they continue their
support on the Freecom forum. Unfortunately they are not as successful
as Castalla on his Reciva forum in repelling the spam merchants.
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squishy wrote:
>
> So Logitech must be gambling that there is enough take-up of the UE
> radio to provide the needed momentum for their new "Smart" model.
> With no backward compatibility, its unlikely to be the existing
> community that drive the sales. I know I won't be buying one.
>
This com
bluegaspode wrote:
> I fully agree to you whole post, but I don't expect anything for
> christmas. Typically companies use big consumer shows to introduce stuff
> and to create buzz and this was IFA in Germany now, but next bing thing
> is only CES in January?
>
> So I rather expect anything for
Just to clarify one thing that may be a bit misleading here:
mherger wrote:
>
> > > >
- no need to create an account to use it - only once you decide to
> use one of the music services you need an account on
> uesmartradio.com (I'll refer to this as uesr.com...). Connect it to
> yo
> Might be best continuing this in a different thread - but simplest way
> ... use SqueezePlug (complete image) - step-by-step see my blog for an
> example (the video linked to above came from it).
Makes sense. Thanks for the tip about your blog, good step-by-step there:
http://dabdig.blogspot.co
TheLastMan wrote:
> but if there is not -at least- one more UE "usesmartradio.com / UE Music
> Library" (UEML?) device available before December I will eat my
> proverbial hat.
I fully agree to you whole post, but I don't expect anything for
christmas. Typically companies use big consumer shows
Don't panic just yet. Wait and see, it is very early days for the
Logitech UE brand.
I am sure this is *not* going to be the only device from Logitech that
uses the usesmartradio.com web site and UE Music Library server
software. That would be a huge waste of opportunity and resources. I am
actu
pssc wrote:
> Did they stash the patches anyware uesful? looking like the audio may be
> a portaudio arm issue.
>
> Phill.
Nope. Had to make them myself.
Attached.
+---+
|Filename: sdl-event-cue-length.patch.txt
What good is it if one desires a COMPLETE music system when all you can
synch are multiple UE Radios. In order for the UE system to be a
complete home stereo audio system there must be a device
(Touch-equivelent) that connects your main stereo components to these
little monaural radios. And what g
nervoteso wrote:
> a question: how can i do to avoid next radio update? i don't want my
> radio SB becomes as the new radio.
It won't upgrade automatically.
Users are supposed to decide on their own, whether they want to upgrade
to the UE platform (whenever Logitech is ready to have an official
mherger wrote:
>
>
> What it does _NOT_ mean:
> > > >
- there are NO plans to pull the plug on anything SB related
> (mysb.com, forums etc.)
> > >
> Michael
The only thing I can conclude from this double negation that Logitech
WILL pull the plug.
I must say Logitech managers have d
garym wrote:
> yes, triode's plugins can work without mysb.com
>
> /[/url]
that would be good. now i need a spotify account...
also, lastfm would work without mysB?
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Steve Baumgarten wrote:
> >
> I'd love to experiment with this -- does anyone have a "How To" guide
> to
> get SqueezeSlave up and running on a Raspberry PI? Because to be honest
> that seems like a pretty fair replacement for the Duet receiver. (OK,
> maybe a little more hobbyist than some peopl
mherger wrote:
> After a week of questions and answers scattered all around the place I
> decided to 'review my initial posting'
> (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295)
> to give a more complete picture of the changes ahead. Pleas
After a week of questions and answers scattered all around the place I
decided to 'review my initial posting'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295)
to give a more complete picture of the changes ahead. Please feel free
to ask quest
We need to continue to embrace and welcome new users to this forum
irregardless of their viewpoints. I believe with that approach the forum
will have a greater chance of prospering. The official forum is fine as
far as it goes but the real feedback lies here. There is likely some
sifting to be don
the nightfly wrote:
> ...but here's the most important immediate question: is there a forum
> or other such site for SB to continue on if (when) Logitech pulls the
> plug on this one? Personally, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to
> see it happen very soon -- especially since I would gues
There have been many times when LOGITECH has received negative comments
in the past. Some of these comments have been extremely rude and
disrespectful. Many could have been considered quite slanderous. Yet,
LOGITECH never quavered nor objected in any way. On the other hand, many
times a representa
...but here's the most important immediate question: is there a forum
or other such site for SB to continue on if (when) Logitech pulls the
plug on this one? Personally, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to
see it happen very soon -- especially since I would guess management
would not be hap
Have been debating about different ways to get mid-fi sound into our
bedroom or outside. Just ordered a SB radio and battery kit while
they're still out there. Figure I can always upgrade (? sidegrade) to
the new UE system at some point if I need or want to.
-
CharlieG wrote:
> Wow!
> I hope Mrs. M doesn't read this forum!
She has a sense of humour, thankfully. We wouldn't have lasted 12 years
if she didn't. Don't worry, she gives as good as she gets!
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toby10 wrote:
> Yes, but not interested in such a featureless system myself. I had that
> prior to SB, I came to SB to unleash my streaming constraints in such a
> system. Also URL's change which makes it a maintenance headache,
> subscriptions services would likely not work, etc... I suspect
TheLastMan wrote:
> If you just want access to your local music files or radio via
> individually entered URLs, the answer is to put together a dedicated LMS
> server with nothing else to run.
Yes, but not interested in such a featureless system myself. I had that
prior to SB, I came to SB
> Get the raspberry pi linux intsall up and running
>
> download the pre complied arm squeezesalve extract and run
>
> Indeed you just about have a duet at that point, though the wifi is
> missing.
>
> I have a some luck with wifi via usb but its a little painful to setup
> at prersent due to m
Steve Baumgarten wrote:
> > I would like to add squeeze slave works well on the Raspberry PI and
> the
> > squeeze play does work though there are currently some audio issues
> with
> > native playback and screen flicker issues...
>
> I'd love to experiment with this -- does anyone have a "How T
CharlieG wrote:
> Wow!
> I hope Mrs. M doesn't read this forum!
Do you think I'd post that if there was any chance she did. Although
she is a faithful user of our Squeezebox infrastructure, she wouldn't
have any clue what a "squeezebox" is? She might guess an accordion? We
have our 30th Annive
nervoteso wrote:
> which steps to keep sb devices working at least offline?
>
> maybe the following?:
>
> 1) keep a copy of LMS installer
>
> 2) keep a copy of SB devices firmware (where to find them?)
>
> 3) never update nas or Os pc
>
> 4) set off automatic update in radio or touch
>
> wo
> I would like to add squeeze slave works well on the Raspberry PI and the
> squeeze play does work though there are currently some audio issues with
> native playback and screen flicker issues...
I'd love to experiment with this -- does anyone have a "How To" guide to
get SqueezeSlave up and runn
which steps to keep sb devices working at least offline?
maybe the following?:
1) keep a copy of LMS installer
2) keep a copy of SB devices firmware (where to find them?)
3) never update nas or Os pc
4) set off automatic update in radio or touch
would the triode's plugins work without myquee
Wow!
I hope Mrs. M doesn't read this forum!
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TheLastMan wrote:
> If your wife is in the kitchen cooking your dinner, or in the garage
> mending your car, ring her up and tell her to come in and turn up the
> volume for you.
perfect. Now I'm future proof (because I can always get a new wife if my
ver 1.0 quits working);-)
garym wrote:
> ...how can I control this with my iphone? ;-) If your wife is in the
> kitchen cooking your dinner, or in the garage
mending your car, ring her up and tell her to come in and turn up the
volume for you.
T
TheLastMan wrote:
> If you just want access to your local music files or radio via
> individually entered URLs, the answer is to put together a dedicated LMS
> server with nothing else to run. Get it working and then don't touch
> it. If you keep your music on a separate drive or network share y
toby10 wrote:
> Assuming you never update your computer to an OS that LMS was never
> developed for, yes.
> Assuming an update to OS (or other) does not break LMS, yes.
If you just want access to your local music files or radio via
individually entered URLs, the answer is to put together a dedica
pssc wrote:
> Did they stash the patches anyware uesful? looking like the audio may be
> a portaudio arm issue.
>
> Phill.
I have tried to pm you, but you don't seem to accept pm
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i've 3 touch, 1 radio and 2 boom.
what should i do to avoid new update? i think only radio could be
updated, right? should i set automatic update in my radio settings?
thanks
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ralphy wrote:
> The screen flicker is from SDL-1.2.13 upgrade it to 1.2.15 and it's
> gone. I did this for my Solaris ports. You need to reapply 2 patches
> that Logitech made to the 1.2.13 source.
Did they stash the patches anyware uesful? looking like the audio may be
a portaudio arm issue.
pssc wrote:
> Erland is right don't panic!.
>
> I would like to add squeeze slave works well on the Raspberry PI and the
> squeeze play does work though there are currently some audio issues with
> native playback and screen flicker issues...
>
> I have yet to experiment yet with and external s
erland wrote:
> I'll re-post this even though I've posted similar in other places, but
> I'm a bit afraid that people won't read through this long thread and it
> might be missed, sorry for the re-post for those of you that have
> already read my previous posts.
>
> First of all let's not panic
bklaas wrote:
> hi all-
>
> Before I say anything I want to thank Michael for his openness and
> candor on this thread. You rock Michael. But you should rename the
> thread to "New Not Squeezebox Radio" ;)
>
> It's been ages since I've posted here. I had to reset my password
> because it was 29
erland wrote:
> As long as you can get through the registration wizard and install Patch
> Installer applet, we can patch the rest to work, so I don't consider
> this to be a big issue, we will find a way around it unless Logitech
> does it for us out of the box in a firmware upgrade.
I didn't t
autopilot wrote:
> This is true, but I recall that it pops up again at some point and some
> menus do not populate correctly.
>
As long as you can get through the registration wizard and install Patch
Installer applet, we can patch the rest to work, so I don't consider
this to be a big issue, we
erland wrote:
> If I remember correctly there is a "hidden" swipe action you can use to
> skip the registration screen during the initial setup, so this won't
> cause any issues if mysqueezebox.com goes away.
This is true, but I recall that it pops up again at some point and some
menus do not po
nervoteso wrote:
>
> how can install server and touch wothout mysqueezebox?
>
If I remember correctly there is a "hidden" swipe action you can use to
skip the registration screen during the initial setup, so this won't
cause any issues if mysqueezebox.com goes away.
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andifor wrote:
> I was able to install my server and my players without any mysqueezebox
> account.
i've read this in an other thread
"The touch needs my squeezebox to initialize. A factory reset leads to a
new request to initialize . Thus as long as new touches are sold my
squeezebox has to be
autopilot wrote:
> I was making a point, plus asking a question:
>
> Point: LMS may run now, but a service pack etc from Microsoft or a new
> NAS update 'could' cause problems with LMS.
>
> Secondly, I was asking if the process that you have to go though when
> first setting up your Touch (con
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