On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:40:22 AM UTC-4, CrookedBranch wrote:
> Hi Rivendell folks. Well last year I picked up a Clem H and gotta day I am
> now hooked. I am looking to set up a more road and light dirt road oriented
> bike. Wanted to see if anyone had a small (47-50) frame or Frameset t
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:40:22 AM UTC-4, D Peters wrote:
> Hey all,
>
>
> I'm selling my lovely and rarely used Roadini :( - I find I've been riding
> the Sam more as I'm almost always biking with a toddler in the trailer these
> days, and this one isn't getting the attention it deserv
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:39:39 AM UTC-4, Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
> I've had my new Atlantis for one week now, and have taken it on one 4 hour
> ride and one quick overnight trip. It's my first Rivendell, and I'm very
> happy with it. It's the quintessential "All-Rounder", and I plan to u
Buying the wheelset now for the Chev and running them on the Clem is a
great idea. Unfortunately, I believe the new Chevs are going to be 700c in
Leah's size. I could be wrong. But if they are, maybe buying a used 650B is
the answer--from someone who would like to go to the new 700c size,
perha
Edit: I doubt there is more than a pound or *maybe two* difference in the
frame/fork between them
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 7:28:42 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
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> . I doubt there is more than a pound difference in the frame/fork between
> the two.
>
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A few years ago, I traded a pair of aluminum bosco bars for CrMo ones despite
the weight gain. Although I prefer the finish on CrMo Nitto bars, the main
reason I did the trade was pliability. I find almost anything aluminum to be
too stiff. I thought this was particularly noticeable on the ha
Leah,
Would you also consider putting on just one rack rather than two on your
Chev? Since it won't be your "hauling" bike, that might do you just fine.
Do you know if those Nitto racks are heavy or lighter than a similar rack
(they certainly are prettier)? That would also lighten it up by tw
When I swapped the stock tires on my old Clem for thunder burts I think I lost
a good 3-4 pounds, and in a place that really affected the way it feels while
riding. Cheapest/easiest place to lose weight (besides the “engine”) is getting
a lighter set of tires, and maybe, as has been suggested, w
On your dyno question, I once asked the same thing and here's what James at
Analog Cycles said:
"Out of curiosity, I weighed both systems.
I put a standard front hub, good rechargeable headlight, and battery
powered tail light on the postal scale. 17 oz.
I put a Schmidt hub and headlight an
Inspired by yesterdays For Sale Post by Ant Ritchey, I too have a boatload
of magazines and books to sell, all in previously read condition.
All Proceeds will benefit a u19/u23 Cycling Program
“Vintage Bicycle Quarterly”
Volume 1: Issues 1 - 4
Volume 2: Issues 1 - 4
Volume 3: Issues 1 - 4
The wheels we're building and tire change on Roberta's bike alone save
3lbs. The 1x conversion will save even more. I told her to ditch her
kickstand, because you can lean your bike or use a curb / pedal kickstand
easily. The bike will never be light, but lighter wheels will make it
feel ve
See? I’m glad i asked because there are so many good points here. Let me see if
I can respond to a few of the points/questions here.
New 55 Chev has 700 c wheels, so I can’t swap.
Roberta - YES, I will only have a rear rack and a Randi Jo bag on my bars. This
will not be my hauling bike. The no
I’m giving this one bump. If I don’t hear from anyone, I’ll let it go and try
again later in the year.
Best,
Isaac
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Buy a Roadeo and put upright bars on it. I guarantee your Clem will be
relegated to "shopping bike" status afterward.
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Some of these lighter but more "expensive" things can be had more cheaply
with some astute shopping. That's part of the reason these online groups
are helpful as we can swap and upgrade to good used parts and sometimes get
good intel on sale of new parts!
For example, these 650b Schwalbe Thund
Pretty sure there are enough of us for a local raid. This is one of my
lights at the end of the Covid tunnel! I'm really looking forward to
creating a bike community where we can do group rides and possibly S24Os.
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 10:39:15 PM UTC-6, James Davis wrote:
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> Kip,
> Th
James wrote "If I could convince her to go tubeless, we'd save another 200+
grams... "
James would you mind breaking that down, and detailing what you are
including in each alternative?
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:57:03 AM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles
wrote:
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> The wheels we're buildin
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:31:22 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
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> Buy a Roadeo and put upright bars on it. I guarantee your Clem will be
> relegated to "shopping bike" status afterward.
>
D'oh hit post before I finished! I have an AHH (old version) that with
fenders,dyno lights weig
8 pounds, wow! That would feel like a huge difference.
Nope, I’ll never not enjoy a mixte-style bike. I just cannot give up the
freedom of not being constrained by a top tube. YOU should buy a Cheviot.
Because having two bikes that are significantly different makes sense! 😜😂 All
the cool kid a
Hello,
I’m new to Rivendell family and enjoying this discussion on ways to
lighten your bike through wheel sets.
Can anyone comment on the Rivendell 700c Velocity built Standard Atlas
wheel set in terms of lightness and comparison to other possibilities?
Thanks,
Lyman ATX
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 9
Franklyn - I know nothings bout Thunder Burts but I’m tempted to buy them
because that is CHEAP.
Are they pretty resistant to flats? Flats are not my thing. They scare me and I
don’t know how to change them 😬😜
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> On Apr 8, 2020, at 7:31 AM, franklyn wrote:
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>
> Some of t
Which should be motivating you to do that experiment.
Ride your bike, weigh it, strip off the bags, racks, fenders, kick stand,
etc., weigh it again, and ride it again.
Note how many lbs you removed and how different (or similar) the striped
bike is to the original configuration.
On Wednesday,
I have been a year-'round daily bike commuter for about 35 years. My daily
commute from Brooklyn to the middle of Manhattan is about a 9-mile ride, each
way. I am riding a 58cm mid-aughts Ramboulliet, my setup informed by the
aesthetic influence of the 1970's Gitanes, Motobecanes, Peugeots of my
This ride, featuring proper social distancing, looks like fun for a good cause.
http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2020/04/bill-walton-and-friends-inter-galactic.html
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Compared to road slicks, Thunder Burts are definitely more "burly", but
they don't have the protective belts like Marathon or Big Bens do.
three thoughts about flats:
1. Jan Heine's opinion is that when you use supple tires and run them at a
reasonably low pressure, your chance of getting a fl
Ha! I have a heavy mixte already. ;-) 1970's Raleigh Super Course mixte
frame with fenders, rack and a 7 speed internal geared hub.
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:50:08 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> 8 pounds, wow! That would feel like a huge difference.
>
> Nope, I’ll never n
I would suggest that another way to change the feel of your bike would be to
play with the gearing. If you are currently geared for hauling your steps
between gears may make finding that perfect, effortless gear more difficult
than if you had smaller steps between gears. Gear the bike for how
James, I guess I listen too. :) I just imagine tubeless goo all over the
place if it leaks. Let's talk. Also, black sidewalls, not tan.
Roberta
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:41:26 AM UTC-4, ted wrote:
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> James wrote "If I could convince her to go tubeless, we'd save another
> 200+ gra
I’m with you Roberta! :-D
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 8:26 AM Roberta wrote:
> James, I guess I listen too. :) I just imagine tubeless goo all over
> the place if it leaks. Let's talk. Also, black sidewalls, not tan.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:41:26 AM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>
Now that's a big bike! And look only a single top tube...LOL
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 8:11:49 AM UTC-7, Kent Peterson -- Eugene,
Oregon wrote:
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> This ride, featuring proper social distancing, looks like fun for a good
> cause.
>
>
> http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2020/04/bill-walton-and-
Roberta,
I am an old dog, and slow to learn new tricks. With decades of riding on
light tires I'm familiar and comfortable with fixing flats roadside, and
skeptical of the purported wounderfulness of tubeless, particularly with
higher pressure lower volume roadie tires. However last fall I got
>
> I put a set of Fatty Rumpkin Greens on my Clementine, and they definitely
> make for a more responsive ride than the Big Bens.
Reduction of rotating weight always pays the greatest dividend of any
lightening efforts. With cars the rule-of-thumb is that 1 lb. off the
wheels/tires is equal
James and Roberta - what lighter 650B wheels are you recommending?
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:02:00 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble
> because we talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like eac
I'm a Tubeless Denier because I've had miserable luck mounting them with a
floor pump and I'm not willing to pay for a noisy compressor to do the job, but
I've been fixing flats for more decades than I care to number here and consider
it part of the cycling deal. For folks who are not me and are
Melanie, we don't just recommend wheels randomly, we build quotes based on
rider weight, bike style, gear weight, where the riding is taking place,
and what kind of weather it will be ridden in. Roberta's wheelset might
not be suitable to you, and visa versa. Feel free to email me if you have
I hope Rivendell is reading some of these threads and that they will design
bikes that are more accessible to the female of the species. Like the Susie.
Typically we women don’t have the upper body strength of men, and we tend to be
lighter. So, when people say “make the bike lighter, focus on t
Did Will ever deliver a timeline for this bike?
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Well, they think the bikes will hit the water in July. So, no one is getting a
Cheviot until late August, I think.
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> Did Will ever deliver a timeline for this bike?
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Joe,
Tubeless sealant in inner tubes is a good compromise if you don't want to
worry about compressors, but want to have the benefits of the sealant. I
have two bikes with tubeless and 3 with tubes. I also don't have a
compressor. With new tubeless tires I have had good luck using my floor
pum
Well phooey. I first heard of this frame at RBW in October (as I was learning
and about to deliver the bad news the Anniversary Mixte was probably a
goner)..now it's due almost a year later. After Summer! I know I know, it can't
be helped and the coronavirus situation probably isn't helping with
The combination that will fulfill these functions features are pretty
unique: non-diamond frame, lightweight tubes, long wheelbase, wide tires.
Even the Betty and Cheviot, which are lighter than the Clem Ls, are not
considered light, especially not for folks who are in the weight range you
are
I agree with the notion that new tires are probably the easiest way to
improve the ride. But I must respectfully disagree with the light & supple
knobby tire (e.g. Thunder Burt) advice for the type of bikes and riding
we're talking about in this thread. For myself I start with the fastest,
plus
"The combination that will fulfill these functions features are pretty unique:
non-diamond frame, lightweight tubes, long wheelbase, wide tires."
Whether there's actually a market for them worth Grant/Riv's trouble is above
my pay grade, but I see Leah's point of wanting to recommend a Riv to he
My recommendation would be to move away from gendered names and gendered
marketing and just build bikes that are lighter weight, heavier weight and
let the buyer choose which suits them best. Society seems to be moving in
this direction and why not follow that path for the better of all. A big
Totally agree about the names. It was pointed out to me recently that when the
Clementine name was dropped so it wouldn't be a "girl's bike", we were still
left with a guy name for all of them. And guess who didn't notice because I'm a
guy?? I was embarrassed by that 🤦
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Birdman,
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Purchase them back if you ever decide to move them. I will dig around in the
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Joe (and others),
You don't need a compressor if you decide to go tubeless. Just get a good pump
with a reserve tank, like this one:
https://amzn.to/3c0Ck88
You pump up the tank to a very high pressure, the flip a switch & whoosh the
air goes into your tire super fast. It's very nifty & entire
MaineBiker,
Great looking Rivendell and what an amazing background for your pic!
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I’ve long thought it odd that boats are female but bikes aren’t.
Have you ever known a guy who wouldn’t own a boat with female name?
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Honestly Ted the gendered name thing for vehicles has always eluded me. Some
guys refer to their cars as "her" and...I don't get it. It's metal, it's an it.
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What I find funny is his bike is like a what 68-70cm and there's no double
top tube! In comparison Grant puts a double top tube on a 56cm bikebut
I do like that he as either 32h or 36h wheels! Need that durability! Good
Luck!
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:42:04 AM UTC-7, Robert Tilley
No argument, though how do you feel about Romance languages where everything is
gendered?
With boats I’d say it’s just cultural tradition dating way back, and any
rationalization would likely seem sexist.
Alls I’m saying is I think the notion that giving a conveyance a female name
makes it ill s
I guess I have no feeling about Romance languages and have gone off on quite a
lockdown-induced tangent. I should probably go ride my very light Frank Jones
Señor! 😉
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Rivendell Bicycle Works used to publish and mail a lot on paper; Full
Catalogs, Readers, Flyers, Bike/Frame Catalogs. To pass along fun reading
material, to reclaim space, and to raise funds for a u19/u23 Cycling
Program, I’m offering the following for sale:
*My Collection of Riv Readers*
Volu
Well, whatever you think of the gendered bike names, I feel really sorry for
the person who has to report their bike missing/stolen one day and tell the
police it’s a Wolbis Slugstone.
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I have a pair of Soma’s “Brevet Ergo” bars taking up space here in the Bike
Room, so I thought I would see if anybody on this list could use them.
They look like this:
https://www.treefortbikes.com/Soma-Fabrications-Brevet-Randonneur-Alloy-Bar
Very light tape residue. Came in a package deal wi
Way to go Leah!
A friend and I can't stop laughing at your remarks
We are both big Riv fans as well but that is a strange name in my view.
Put in the situation of reporting it stolen might cause the policeman to want
to do a breathalyzer test on the one reporting.
Laughter is good medicine,Paul
When I took my bikes in for service at REI the mechanics would always ask,
“Well, why is this one a Clem Smith Jr and this one a Clementine? What’s the
difference?” Oh, the naming thing was just so hard.
I was never fond of “Betty Foy”, either. But I loved the color scheme. I think
they did a g
I'm pro Cheviot. Great name, great sheep. I liked Saluki, too.
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A Soma Mixte with light wheels and a 1x drivetrain probably fits the bill.
Happy to help with one if needed.
Best, james
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 1:12:57 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> I hope Rivendell is reading some of these threads and that they will
> design bikes tha
For those of you familiar with Boneshaker Almanac, Evan P Schneider
(editor) is offering the Best Of compilation at half price. It makes for
great quarantine reading, kind of an alternative Riv Reader with less how
to and a smidge more poetry.
Also recommend his novel, which is 1/2 off in the link
Hi gang, I'm a cassette-and-derailer person, I know nothing of the singlespeed
freewheel on my Frank Jones. I could hear a ticking sound when pedaling so I
hopped off and wiggled stuff and discovered there's a wiggly-wobble in the
(used) freewheel. Can I tighten that up with a tool on the locknu
Thanks for posting this. I ordered both the novel & the best of.
Kent Peterson
Eugene, OR USA
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Is the outer bearing race loose? That would certainly cause a wobble, and could
lead to ball bearings escaping if very loose. It's reverse threading so using a
hammer and punch, just see if it wants to snug up.
IanA
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Thanks, Ryan, but I found a set. I appreciate your offer to go dig them up,
though!
Isaac
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As someone who's had both the Cheviot and the Clem L, I don't understand
the comments about the Cheviot being lighter or faster. My Cheviot was
neither compared to my Clem L, and it wasn't because of a difference of
part weight or the presence of a rack or not. The builds were almost
identical.
*Joe and Franklin*--Is the compressor for only originally seating the tire,
or is it for ongoing pumping in air? So, if I have James mount the tire,
i'm OK with my standard floor pump for pumping air in?
*Ted--*when you say it doesn't hold air as well, are you talking pumping on
a daily or hou
Roberta, it's for seating the tire. I had some tubeless tires on wheels not on
a bike (the SimWorks tires we briefly discussed) and I made the lame mistake of
letting them go flat from non use. I couldn't get them seated again with my
floor pump to save my life. Which connects to you next questi
Roberta,
Re air retention of my tubeless tire setup:
Caveats/context:
I have WTB byway tires (650b 48mm) on WTB rims set up with orange seal
(pretty sure) by Mike at Black Mountain Cycles.
I weigh between 150 and 160 lbs.
I tend to run what I think is pretty low pressure in them, li
Funny, I'm going through a similar process with my Clem H. I swapped over
everything from my upgraded vintage MTB city 'beater', so it's a somewhat
eclectic mix of mostly economy-based parts, with a good sprinkling of fancy
parts as well. The result is a pretty heavy bike - and it's mostly due
Excellent, Joe! Anything you do is better than not doing it.
Grilver and honey is one of my two fav riv colorways, the other bring RBW
blue of the current batch of Clems and Chevs.
Tonight I went for a walk, because it just finished raining. I'll go on an
extra ride this weekend.
On Wednesday
That was great, thanks for posting it.
Mike in austin
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Leah,
I have a wonderful 650B velocity wheel set you may try. Also have g-ones
tires and Hetras you could try. A different size rim will require an
adjustment to brake pads.
It does frustrate me slightly that you ignore my advice about wheel and
tire improvement on ride and weight until 4-5 o
"Anything you do is better than not doing it."
That's a great line! I'm going to tell this to myself often.
I had a nice ride, if somewhat less adventurous than heading out ahead of a
storm and encountering the shedded skin of a rattler and wondering where he is.
THAT'S a bike ride 😳😁
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Ray, is this yours? Very Nice!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-old-stock-Rivendell-Saluki-frame-and-fork-56cm/133382696568?hash=item1f0e3a6e78:g:s14AAOSw1ZJejoej
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:38:40 AM UTC-4, Raymond Galang wrote:
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> Hi Hugh,
> I have a brand new 56cm Rivendell Saluki frame and
Joe, I’m not that exciting. I mistake straps for snakes. I can’t even make it a
cool story. Oh well!
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> On Apr 8, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> "Anything you do is better than not doing it."
>
> That's a great line! I'm going to tell this to myself often.
>
> I
Roberta,
I think like all things, how long your tubeless tires will hold air depends on
many factors. Some of it depends on the tires. The supple tires I like to ride
from Rene Herse/Compass have side walls weaved from fabrics. Air leaks from the
interface between the rim and the tire as well a
Oh Ryan, so salty. I didn’t know you had 650B - I did know you had 700 c. I am
thinking of getting dyno though...would need to have dyno compatibility...do
you have those in your basement somewhere too? 😜
I’m not good at pulling parts off one bike and installing on another! It was
better to jus
"I mistake straps for snakes."
Oh. Apparently I mistake *pictures* of straps for snakes 😬
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"The difficulty in seating only happens at set up. Afterward even if the tire
is completely flat you can pump it back up no problem."
This was not my experience. I had two go flat (because I let them sit) and
couldn't reseat them with my floor pump.
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Now I don't want get in to the middle of a fray but why would a dyno hub
not work on a Betty Foy?
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:51:02 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> Oh Ryan, so salty. I didn’t know you had 650B - I did know you had 700 c.
> I am thinking of getting dyno thoug
It would but my wheels on the Foy weren’t built for dyno. I want dyno on my
Clem, I’m fairly certain, so I don’t want the Betz wheels on there.
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> On Apr 8, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Brian Campbell wrote:
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> Now I don't want get in to the middle of a fray but why would a dyno hub
Interesting. Every time I top off sealant (through the valve with the core off)
the tire is completely flat, and usually it comes right back up with floor
pump. How long did you leave your tires completely flat?
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On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 11:04:10 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> It would but my wheels on the Foy weren’t built for dyno. I want dyno on
> my Clem, I’m fairly certain, so I don’t want the Betz wheels on there.
>
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> On Apr 8, 2020, at 8:
Franklyn, it was a few weeks, they weren't on a bike and I started ignoring
them. But my digression on this isn't really helpful to Roberta or Leah anyway,
neither would be mounting tires on rims. The wheels will come from James or
whoever all mounted up with tires and they would simply keep the
On the dynamo hubs, anyone have experience with the one Riv is selling,
compared to Shutter Precision, or Shimano 72 or something in that range?
Intended use is general riding and commuting at speeds between 12 and 20 mph,
on 650 or 700c wheels with rim brakes, oftentimes in dirt roads, rider +
Can someone confirm my suspicion that the Kaisai hubs Riv is selling are just
rebadged SP's?
If they are, SP/Kaisai are significantly lighter and more efficient than
Shimano DN-3N7x or 3N80 dynamos. They are pretty close to Schimdt SON hubs in
terms of weight and efficiency but are about half
One more benefit to SON hubs: they look *smashing* in polished silver. I insist
that's what Leah gets and will pay half for it if that's what it takes to push
her over the edge! 😁
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Leah wants SON dyno hubs apparently on both her current Clem 650B and
future Cheviot 700c now. Everyone is wasting their time proposing
otherwise. This is her dream bikes are her vice. Don’t try to save her
money. Just tell her what to have Rich build up for her.
And Yes Leah I have wheel s
If this was a contest, Gabriel won! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🤣🤣🤣
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> On Apr 8, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
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> Today I went on two mega exciting rides! Ride one was to the bike shop to
> take delivery of my Steve Potts Trail Bike. I packed the frame and a bunch
> of parts
Gabriel rode his bike to get his bike to build his bike to ride his bike. Yeah
I can't top that one 🏆🙂
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Woah. Ok, good luck with your sales.
Best,
Leah
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> Leah wants SON dyno hubs apparently on both her current Clem 650B and future
> Cheviot 700c now. Everyone is wasting their time proposing otherw
I agree with Eric and with most of the comments in response about the value
of the local bags. It's great that the market meets so many needs. What I
have issue with is the contradiction between wanting to widen the scope of
biking past the stereotypes (roadie, etc) but then pushing marketing/st
Are they at the groovy Instagram party? I follow bikey stuff I come across
there..albeit a small sample, I don't have an appetite for making that site a
big habit for me. I'd follow Wald for sure.
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