On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Pierre pierre.lacha...@live.ca wrote:
If you're a performance-oriented type who rides saddle very high and
forward, and you spin furiously toes down, you're probably going to be
happier with either clipless pedals, or at the very least, toe clips
with straps
What this comes down to is: if you amble along -- and there is nothing wrong
with that -- you may not care about retention. If you pedal agressively,
fast or slow, you may want it. Certianly, I want it.
Plenty amblers cover more miles than I ever do; I top out at about 35, but I
ride them
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:23:15 -0600
Subject: [RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
From: bertin...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Plenty amblers cover more miles than I ever do; I top out at about 35, but I
ride them agressively. And there is nothing wrong with *that*, either.
It's
Clipless vs toe clips vs just an ordinary touring pedal can be argued
endlessly without resolution, because it depends on the context of how
you intend to ride with them.
If you're a performance-oriented type who rides saddle very high and
forward, and you spin furiously toes down, you're
I've never had KEO's, but owned older Looks for a while. I never
looked back once I tried the Speedplay X lollipops. The free float is
far kinder to my knees. Besides the float, the X's spin nicely, hold
up well and clip in and release easily without ever releasing
prematurely (I hate it when
Thanks, Bill. I used X-2s for 15 years before switching to, seriatim (not
including the horrible WTB Stealths), SPD 959s, clips 'n' straps 'n' nice
old Kangaroo leather Sidis, and, now, Keos. I prefer the Looks for the solid
platform, and the 4 degrees or so of float is enough for me. I do miss
On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
In a word, float.
I have infinite float on my current pedals.
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On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 03:42 -0700, ToddBS wrote:
On Oct 13, 6:49 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
In a word, float.
I have infinite float on my current pedals.
If you like step-on pedals, that's fine. There are several very nice
ones on the market. They don't work for me,
well, I went to shimano spd's a while back (646), but I did it
because I'm a left leg amputee, and I really can't hold my leg on
a plain old pedal. in fact, last year I even abandoned a shoe and
mounted
the spd cleat directly on my artificial foot under the heel, which
I'd
recommend to any
I will never forget my first century attempt, in 1973 wearing athletic
shoes (we called them sneakers in those days) with my Campagnolo
Record quill pedals. (I also wore shorts made from cut-off denim
trousers with briefs underneath, and did not wear gloves.)
I can still feel
I rode for many years with traditional campy or french pedals, clips
and straps paired with italian ballet slippers. I thought I would
never get used to anything else. 10 or so years ago I tried clipless
pedals and never looked back. I have A530's on my commuter bikes and
some form of SPD on
On Oct 12, 3:40 pm, Steve Wimberg st...@stevewimberg.com wrote:
A friend suggested SPDs so I could actually walk in the shoes (at
least to go into a convenience store without falling on my ass). He
also felt that cycling shoes makes your pedal stroke more efficient
and that it might
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 03:41 -0700, ToddBS wrote:
On Oct 12, 3:40 pm, Steve Wimberg st...@stevewimberg.com wrote:
A friend suggested SPDs so I could actually walk in the shoes (at
least to go into a convenience store without falling on my ass). He
also felt that cycling shoes makes
I'd take it one step further and say it has everything to do with your
shoes - or at least where the cleats are fastened to the shoes.
Bill
In a message dated 10/13/2009 7:00:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
palin...@his.com writes:
There's a reasonable chance this has nothing at all to do
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 16:36 -0700, Pierre wrote:
At first, the retro switch came this spring when they started some
serious road rebuilding where I live, making it necessary to walk my
bike here and there (due to sharing narrow, temporary construction
pathways with pedestrians). This rammed
I have tried 3 different clipless pedal systems, with 3 different
pairs of shoes, but each time, I came back to flat pedals. I see some
advantage of being attached, but not enough to make it worth changing
shoes. And on long rides, being locked in one place actually causes
more fatigue and
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 04:47 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
I have tried 3 different clipless pedal systems, with 3 different
pairs of shoes, but each time, I came back to flat pedals. I see some
advantage of being attached, but not enough to make it worth changing
shoes. And on
After each episode of clipless experimentation, two of which lasted
several months, I found that my feet felt sloppy and tended to slip
off the flat pedals. I attribute this to the bad habits I learned by
having my feet attached. Luckily, the sloppiness is quickly unlearned,
and I don't have any
And on long rides, being locked in one place actually causes
more fatigue and discomfort than free-floating on MKS Sylvan Touring
pedals. I have become so accustomed to letting my foot roam around the
pedal that even spiky bmx pedals seem too restrictive (I have bmx
pedals on my fixed-gear
I find they have an alarming tendency to come off the pedal or to be
misaligned, and it seems like a
lot of work to me to constantly have to think about foot placement.
Jim's amusing take on differences notwithstanding, I think it is a
case where different physiology is in play. I just got
The philosophy is about keeping bicycles fun and practical, not
categorically rejecting certain equipment. If clipless pedals are
functional and enjoyable then you are on the right track. No heresy
there.
my road and mtb bikes have Time ATACs paired with recessed cleat MTB
shoes. Great, Easy
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Steve Park steve...@gmail.com wrote:
The philosophy is about keeping bicycles fun and practical, not
categorically rejecting certain equipment. If clipless pedals are
functional and enjoyable then you are on the right track. No heresy
there.
my road and
Speaking of which: MKS is now making (or maybe has been and VO just
recently stocked) an updated version of the rubber topped pedal:
http://www.velo-orange.com/mks30rublpe.html
I have a great set of the white Lyotard version of these. I am
somewhat reluctant to use mine, however, as it has
That's my set-up too. I have found the Time ATACs to be the most
comfortable clipless pedals for me; they allow lots of float and don't
provoke hot spots. Recessed cleat MTB shoes are very walkable; I need
that when I'm pushing my SS MTB up steep hills.
jim m
wc ca
On Oct 13, 7:35 am, Steve
It's really great to hear that I'm not alone here. My first
experiment with clipless pedals was in the late '80s with an early
version of Look's delta pedals. I had trouble getting the release
dialed in, and experienced quite a bit of discomfort due to the lack
of (any) float. That experience
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 06:15 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
The alternative would have been to wear riding shoes and stow my
hiking shoes. Doable, but shoes take up a lot of pack space.
Yes, that's why I bought a pair of Keen sandals just before the
Shenandoah Valley tour this June. I liked them
With practice, you can ride platform pedals and never worry about your
feet slipping off (that is, unless something happens that brings with
it a much larger problem than your feet slipping off).The dumbest
(and most fun) things i've done on bicycles was done with good old
platform pedals:
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 12:44 -0700, newenglandbike wrote:
I could not imagine doing anything like this clipped-in, in fact it's
scary to even think about.
I can not imagine doing anything like this period.
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This may be a little off topic, but I wonder how many BMX freestylers
there are here . . .
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Yes, that's why I bought a pair of Keen sandals just before the
Shenandoah Valley tour this June. I liked them so well, that's all I've
been wearing since!
Heard a lot of good things about Keens. Guess I will have to try a
pair.
Arguably - more like indubitably - Zamberlans are overkill
This may be a little off topic, but I wonder how many BMX freestylers
there are here . . .
I reckon BMX freestylers are a fairly small subset of any cycling
group. Excepting, of course, BMX freestylers. Looks like fun but
must take a real healthy combination of athletic ability, hand eye
Has anyone on here used the MKS Ezy pedals? They have a quick release
similar to a pneumatic hose connection and allow you to remove the
pedal quickly for packing. The make them in clipless and platform
styles and I can envision having a set of each for around town and out
for a long ride
A friend has similar pedals on his folder, and loves them.
--Eric
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
www.wheelsnorth.org
On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:
Has anyone on here used the MKS Ezy pedals? They have a quick release
similar to a pneumatic hose
I expected these comments. I have used 3 different pairs of shoes
with the cleats mounted in just about every position imaginable. The
only way to alleviate this discomfort would be to stuff a large Dr.
Scholls in there. But then, that wouldn't alleviate me having to wear
special shoes every
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 14:41 -0700, ToddBS wrote:
I expected these comments. I have used 3 different pairs of shoes
I've tried over a dozen brands of dress shoes and have found only one --
and only one last in a very full and varied line -- that I can
consistently buy and wear with no fears of
I gave up Look cleats and shoes maybe 3 years ago, opting for an SPD
pedal (xspeed?? the name is worn off the pedal and they are light and
great) and touring shoes. I've never been happier. I find the SPD's
much easier to clip in and the touring shoe much more useful,
especially when I carry my
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
Yes, that's why I bought a pair of Keen sandals just before the
Shenandoah Valley tour this June. I liked them so well, that's all I've
been wearing since!
Heard a lot of good things about Keens. Guess I will
I recently switched from my crank Brothers 50/50 pin pedals to some
Taiwanese, Magnesium, BMX pin pedals with really nice sealed bearings.
Nice large platform like the Crank Brothers so no sore feet up to 60
miles which is as far as I have ridden. I don't worry about my feet
slipping off, that's
For short errands around town, I use my Town Bike with flat pedals.
For everything, various flavors of clipless pedals. I've been
gravitating of late to Crank Brothers Eggbeaters, which let me use
shoes that I can easily walk in.
--Eric
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
Same here. Gripkings on the commuter and eggbeaters for longer rides.
Eric Norris wrote:
For short errands around town, I use my Town Bike with flat pedals.
For everything, various flavors of clipless pedals. I've been
gravitating of late to Crank Brothers Eggbeaters, which let me use
shoes
On all my bikes accept one I have gone to the Shimano A520 pedals. I think it
is a good looking pedal on a lugged steel bike. It is also an SPD pedal so I
can wear a mountain shoe that is much more comfortable for walking in. On my
commuter I am using a Shimano M324 which are flat on one
Both of my currently active bicycles have Time ATAC pedals, which i
use on 95% of my rides. Now that my commute is ~15 miles instead
4ish, i wear cycling clothing and carry and change of clothes and the
shoes are part of that- I leave my chaco sandals in my office to
change into. I've also
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 11:50 -0700, 40_Acres wrote:
I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to
hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on
platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and
without cycling-specific shoes).
When I set up my first real bike 3 years ago, I used MKS Touring
pedals. Love 'em, but after 30 or so miles, my right foot would be
numb.
A friend suggested SPDs so I could actually walk in the shoes (at
least to go into a convenience store without falling on my ass). He
also felt that
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to
hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on
platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and
without
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, 40_Acres mgla...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to
hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on
platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and
without
I have tried several times to switch from clipless to MKS Touring
pedals, and every time I go back to the clipless. I like the idea of
the touring pedals, but on longer rides feel really inefficient and a
little uncomfortable. I rode a borrowed bike this summer for a week
long tour. The bike had
I started cycling late (at age 50) and with spds. I didn't really like them, so
I switched a year or two later to Looks. Last year I decided that I was fed up
with foot and toe cramps, and walking like a duck off the bike, so I went to
sneakers which I tried in toeclips and Powergrips. I liked
It was wonderful to sell off all my old Look pedals/shoes/cleats a few
years back (along with my tubular tires and wheels).
Now I use solely (get it?) SPD or platform. Shimano A520 on my main
road bikes. Very supportive for long rides. For mixed riding on my
Allrounder and Quickbeam
Riv BMX pedals on my errand bike, Be Bops on everything else,
including my Hilsen. Tried AR 9's and toe clips for a while, didn't
like 'em.
Joel
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Writing from Guatemala, having ridden here from Vancouver Canada on a
non-Riv, but lugged steel, handbuilt Canadian bicycle (700c wheels -
next time 26 inch tourer). 7500 km including some brutal ascents.
Using a pair of mountain bike SPDs with downhill pedals. The downhill
pedals have a cage
I think the important thing is to find what works for you, and what
you are comfortable with, and do it regardless of what anyone else may
think. What may feel inefficient to me, may feel great for someone
else-- because we are talking about how they feel, not whether or not
they are really
MKS calls the Lambda pedals
From: Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
The 3speed has the GripKings, a misnomer if there ever was one. I
On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:50 PM, 40_Acres wrote:
I feel as if I'm committing an act of heresy, but I'm very curious to
hear others thoughts. I'm no stranger to riding in sneakers on
platform pedals, or to using old-school quills and toe clips (with and
without cycling-specific shoes). When I
I've never had clips of any kind on a bike- though I have ridden
someone's bike with toe-clips, but couldn't get used to it. I never
have any problems with my feet slipping, except when riding bmx, and
in those cases scars on my shins are a small price to pay compared to
god-knows-what if I
This year, I've retrograded back to traditional quill pedals and toe
clips. I started out with toe clips decades ago, succumbed to clipless
in 1998, vascillated between clipless and toe clips once or twice a
year, and this season, I've been all toe clip.
At first, the retro switch came this
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