[RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

2016-10-17 Thread Surlyprof
I love how much great feedback we receive from this group. Those POC helmets are really nice. I saw someone had one on the train and it was a great design. I also liked the Bell Zepher and Giro Aspect helmets, too. Almost pulled the trigger on one of those but, alas, going from free to

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2016-10-17 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Giro Aspect and Reverb. I have both. Two of my all time favorites Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2016-10-16 Thread Max
The advice given by someone earlier regarding smooth helmets is a good one – the fewer protrusions to snag on the ground in event of a fall, the better. Pay attention also to the back of the helmet in particular, as a would-be head injury is mitigated, it can turn into a neck injury if the

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2016-10-16 Thread Kellie
I like both of the helmets which of the two is first choice for you? On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-7, Jeff wrote: > > I have a Giro Aspect and Giro Reverb - the former looks to have an > exorbitant list price of $175 but I'm positive I didn't pay that much, my >

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2016-10-15 Thread Chris Halasz
A function I like not mentioned much here is for a helmet that does not make the hair on your head too strange after its removal. The three bands of styrofoam with thin foam padding that run from forehead to crown, common on many large vent racer type helmets, make my hair look really strange

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2016-09-22 Thread stoker
I have been delighted with my POC Octal. Great fit for my large head, excellent cooling vents. Sort of a love it or hate it aesthetic... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2016-09-21 Thread Chad
I bought a Lazer Blade last year and love it. Not sure about safety, but it has great reviews and is pretty affordable. http://www.bikeradar.com/us/road/gear/category/helmets-and-protection/helmet-standard/product/review-lazer-blade-15-49712/ On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 11:06:41 PM

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2016-09-21 Thread John Stowe
Since I don't see it mentioned above: I have been happy with my Giro Sutton MIPS. Fits my large/long head (61cm) just fine, doesn't look like a spaceship, soft visor, pretty light, good coverage in the back and a complete hard shell means no exposed foam when hanging from a bag and bumping

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2016-09-17 Thread Mark R.
I lurk and seldom post here, but there is some interesting content and I would like to weigh in. I use Bell helmets, for some reason they fit my head best. In 2002 I was in a bike lane @ about 18 to 20 mph, and there was a six foot wide by six foot deep ditch the width of the lane. The crew

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2016-09-17 Thread LLM
I recently bought a Bontrager Starvos MIPS helmet from my LBS along with an optional visor insert (attempting to reaffirm my loyalty after buying a bike and lots of gear from Riv!). The helmet is comfortable, seems well-enough ventilated and has grooves along its surface that help hold my

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2016-09-15 Thread 'Rick' via RBW Owners Bunch
> > Thought I'd throw this one in here, looks alright in the photo shoot. . . > http://theradavist.com/2016/09/bells-new-zephyr-helmet/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2016-09-14 Thread Scott Henry
My problem with helmets is that I have a w-i-d-e head. I measure out to 7 1/2 or 7 3/4 for a ball cap, so I guess big and wide, not a good combo. I feel sorry for Mom, I guess Dad too. Helmets tend to fit but push into the sides of my head and end up giving headaches. So rarely do I wear

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2016-09-14 Thread John Bokman
I have a Bell Citi helmet in loud yellow with a visor. I like the visor because I use it to attach my "Take a Look" mirror, which I've really come to depend on after getting used to it. (Yes, it took me quite a while to get used to a rear view mirror sticking off the end of my helmet.)

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2016-09-14 Thread Jeff Lesperance
I have a Giro Aspect and Giro Reverb - the former looks to have an exorbitant list price of $175 but I'm positive I didn't pay that much, my recollection is that my price was similar to the price of the Reverb, which was $60. I like these helmets because they don't have a super-racy profile, they

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2016-09-14 Thread Ron Mc
my buddy just got one of the Giro's with the snap-in sunglasses - I like it except it doesn't have a bill or a mirror or blinkies... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2016-09-14 Thread Philip Kim
helmets are getting up in price. i have a giro savant which I like - light, and breathable. beats the heavy skate helmet i was wearing before. I feel like price-wise you're paying for more breathability, aero, and less weight. On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:06:41 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof

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2016-09-14 Thread John
My POC Octal AVIP MIPS helmet is the best ventilated helmet I've tried so far, that I really, really like. Deacon is not wrong, helmets won't stop the contrecoup brain injuries. But I would rather hit my head on a car or the road or a rock, or whatever, with a helmet on my head than to hit

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2016-09-14 Thread Ron Mc
on my 20' toss, I landed on both gloves, my pants and the side/top of my helmet - I had the slightest road rash under my knickers. Maybe one day they'll have a realistic bike air bag, but until then it's just smart to use basic protective gear. And if you ride with your kids, you should be

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2016-09-14 Thread Surlyprof
So true, Kai. I was run off the road once and the frame caught a roadside sprinkler. Went from 20mph to 0 real quick. Sent me flying over handlebars. Somehow I managed to flip over, land on my back and slide down the hillside to a smooth stop. Would have been injury free had I not hit a

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2016-09-14 Thread Matt B.
In the summer my favorite is the breeze. In colder months, a knit cap usually. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2016-09-13 Thread Kai Vierstra
"I don't think anyone is disputing the value of avoiding accidents in the first place. The problem is, you can't always. And what then?" Fall good? Whatever the case, helmeted or not, know how to fall. There's no time to think about it, but if you find yourself about to hit something you

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2016-09-13 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
There was a huge article (many pages long) in Bicycling (ya, I know) that was the most in depth article I've seen about MIPS and gave a lot of the data gathered by the organization that has done the bulk of testing. MIPS is an attempt at a safety movement, not a marketing movement. I think it's

Re: [RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

2016-09-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 09/13/2016 05:06 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Dear Eric and Ron, I am not saying what you think I'm saying. I said: "Until helmets can address the basic physics [and biology] of coup countrecoup ... helmets will do very little to mitigate brain injury and a lot to make people think they

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2016-09-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Dear Eric and Ron, I am not saying what you think I'm saying. I said: "Until helmets can address the basic physics [and biology] of coup countrecoup ... helmets will do very little to mitigate brain injury and a lot to make people think they accomplish something [they do not]. To avoid brain

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2016-09-13 Thread Ron Mc
Eric is correct - no protection is perfect, so no protection is even better? The false sense of security thing is more hogwash. On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 3:08:14 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: > > Deacon: > > Sorry, but that’s a great sentiment that makes no sense at all in the real >

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2016-09-13 Thread Eric Norris
Deacon: Sorry, but that’s a great sentiment that makes no sense at all in the real world. If we can just “avoid” all the bad things that might happen to us, let’s all cancel our health insurance (avoid getting sick!), our life insurance (avoid dying too soon!), our car insurance (avoid

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2016-09-13 Thread Lungimsam
A few well placed ads with car helmetry and I bet one out of every three dollars spent in the USA during that month would be for car helmets. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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2016-09-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Functionally, much the same thing is accomplished with crumple zones and air bags. On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 12:58:20 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: > > I wonder why noone is marketing helmets for auto drivers/passengers? > Helmet sellers stand to make waaay more money in that arena as

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2016-09-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
They do, for racing. On 09/13/2016 02:58 PM, Lungimsam wrote: I wonder why noone is marketing helmets for auto drivers/passengers? Helmet sellers stand to make waaay more money in that arena as there are more car drivers and car passengers on the road than cyclists. -- You received

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2016-09-13 Thread Lungimsam
I wonder why noone is marketing helmets for auto drivers/passengers? Helmet sellers stand to make waaay more money in that arena as there are more car drivers and car passengers on the road than cyclists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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2016-09-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
I think we're talking at cross purposes, Ron. I'll try again, using your crash as an example. Road rash is a vastly different thing than brain injury. Your momentum was dissipated by the relatively slow deceleration of the skid on the road, not by the helmet or the gloves. My point is this:

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2016-09-13 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 10:24:12 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > > hogwash, Deac, > What Ron Mc said, also based on dramatic personal experience, including a helmet smashed at speed, and a head that felt pretty darn good. Un-Rivvy/Bobby, but my preferred helmet is a Specialized S-Works.

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2016-09-13 Thread Ron Mc
hogwash, Deac, I've been twice on my helmet and gloves- once I was thrown 20' when a water company pump pad grabbed and froze my front wheel to the axle. I slid on the helmet and gloves, and recieved no road rash on my face or head. I replaced my helmet in kind. On Tuesday, September

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2016-09-13 Thread Ron Mc
which is what causes me to buy all my sunglasses at sierratradingpost - often helmets, too, and merino... On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 11:54:08 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > The same causes that give you the $500 cycling sunglasses: > > >

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2016-09-13 Thread Jim M.
The question wasn't about pros & cons of helmet wearing. Stop the proselytizing please. We are adults who can make our own decisions about headgear. cheers jim m wc ca On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 9:59:26 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Until helmets can address the basic physics of

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2016-09-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Until helmets can address the basic physics of inertia and rapid deceleration of the soft tissue brain inside the hard nut case, and the resulting biology of the brain sheering neural connections because of the coup countrecoup sloshing about like jello in a dropped bowl, helmets will do very

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2016-09-13 Thread Patrick Moore
The same causes that give you the $500 cycling sunglasses:

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2016-09-13 Thread Clementine59
It's interesting how MIPS is promoted and accepted by users in the apparent absence of evidence supporting its effectiveness. If it works, show me the data! On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 11:31:21 AM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: > > Marketing is amazing. It is used to squeeze as much money as

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2016-09-13 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Marketing is amazing. It is used to squeeze as much money as possible from my wallet, using as many psychological tricks as they can. In my humble opinion, MIPS is marketing bullshirt'. From the brief research I have done and the scalp injuries I have seen as a Paramedic, I have come to see

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2016-09-13 Thread Marc Irwin
I've come to like the Bern Allston helmet a lot. It has a harder shell than most and a visor without weighing more than a roadie helmet. One thing I heard mentioned in a discussion about MIPS systems, one person noted that any helmet will slide on the head and thus provide some rotational

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2016-09-13 Thread Lungimsam
When wearing a helmet, be sure to not ride near low hanging tree branches. I wonder if anyone makes a helmet with break away straps? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2016-09-12 Thread Scott Loveless
I have a Giro Reverb that doesn't look like it came off a Power Rangers studio set. It's round, moderately comfortable and has good ventilation. Other than the vent slots not being quite big enough to get a finger through for scalp scratching, it's pretty much the Moe Howard helmet. When I was

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2016-09-12 Thread Ron Mc
just yesterday, I was pedaling quickly through an intersection in the green, a driver on the cross street had right-turn sweep with a yield sign. I turned on my front helmet blinkie, looked straight at the driver, and saw his recognition as new and extra braking (dive) of his vehicle - he

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2016-09-11 Thread Edwin W
Will, I like that Ovation! I never thought of the equestrian ones, but it is classy. I feel like with the bike helmets they are usually either too racy or too street punky. Not fast enough or young enough for most, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2016-09-11 Thread Will
I use an equestrian helmet. They are good looking, have a small visor (about an inch) so rain is deflected, and are built to stronger standards (horses are higher from the ground and have hooves) than typical bicycle stock. The trick is to find one large enough, the horsey set tends to be

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2016-09-11 Thread Lungimsam
I don't like riding with a helmet when it is Spring/summer/fall. Too hot. However, I really like wearing a helmet in the rain, and in the winter to keep the wintry blast off my head. I have a 2009 helmet that I like. But the outer plastic is starting to lift away from the Styrofoam body. But

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2016-09-11 Thread Clementine59
Lots of good info here: http://www.helmets.org/ The MIPS discussion is interesting and worth reading. On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:06:41 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote: > > I've been using a helmet that the designers at Specialized gave me several > years ago. It's a nice helmet but it's