Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-08 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Edmunds, Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, June 08, 1998 5:11 AM Subject: RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >Linux is a US-produced product??? Funny, I thought contributions came

RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-08 Thread Edmunds, Keith
> From: Shawn McMahon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > If you're going to post to a list that's hosted in the US, > and devoted to a > US-produced product, then it's "evangelize". Linux is a US-produced product??? Funny, I thought contributions came from all over the world (including west of Califo

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-07 Thread Paul Fontenot
Is this about over? -Original Message- From: David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >> You really ARE an a**hole. > >And you, sir, are

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-07 Thread Peter Lavender
> > Which it very much is, since you've been twit-filtered left and right since > > this started. > > Always a useful way of dealing with an issue one cannot answer > head-on, filter it out. Nope it's an intelligent soloution to a moronic thread. Pete @home @work @play there just isn't enoug

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Chris Evans
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, David Fisher wrote: > Sorry, but we are still going spare here trying to do basic things in > Linux that have not been problems elsewhere, such as getting a network > card to be recognized. Hi Dave, Maybe we can cut the NT/Linux flames for a brief moment and try and help y

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> You really ARE an a**hole. And you, sir, are the clear winner of the Intellectual Excellence in Debating Trophy. The clarity, logic, and moral suasion of your argument leave me speechless. -- David Fisher Chief Engineer Fisher Research Corporation Two Cairn S

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Bob Taylor
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Fisher writes: [snip] >Good point, and one deserving of an honest answer. > >First, it's cheap, easy, and momentarily entertaining sport to goad >the more rabid Linuxites (with well-deserved apologies to the rational >and well-behaved ones who do not feel it

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> Face it, David; you feel a need to defend NT that is so great, you're > willing to be off-topic at length to comment about somebody else's sigfile. > Either you're just trolling and you like starting arguments, or you're > feeling guilty about NT's demonstrable lack of performance and trying to

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> You were indeed hallucinating so can we all stop this and go on to more > important things. Smile when ya say that, stranger! > Like how about someone (how about you, David?) offering some advice to > Michael on his problem. Wish I could but I have never tackled his problem. Sorry, but we are

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> The message speaks for itself, Michael not only made no mention of NT in his > (now forgoten) request for help he did not even have a signature berating > ANY Microsoft products. Which is the most popular way to slid in comments > that bash MS in general. As I don't archive these things, I'm at

RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Paul Pettit
> -Original Message- > From: David Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 3:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO > > > > Oh, please; NT wasn't even mentioned in the post to which >

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >slur in the signature. That was part of my point, that someone has >such animus

RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Paul Pettit
> -Original Message- > From: David Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 3:12 PM > To: Mike Edwards > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO > > > > Then why, oh why, are you baiting us??!! I

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Mike Edwards
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, David Fisher wrote: > > Then why, oh why, are you baiting us??!! It's because of postings like > > yours that these pointless, off-topic religious arguments get started in > > the first place. This is a Linux list--do expect us NOT to defend it? > > > > As I said before, le

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> Oh, please; NT wasn't even mentioned in the post to which you responded. I think that, if you look at the original post, you will see the NT slur in the signature. That was part of my point, that someone has such animus toward NT that he has to put it in his signature. Of course, if his signatu

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> But, if it'll help your self-esteem, I'll concede that Windows NT > parallel-port networking is easier to set up than Linux parallel-port > networking. In exactly the same sense that a Geo Metro is easier to drive > than a Ferrari. What parallel-port networking has to do with any of this is qu

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >That was no dig against Linux. Please reread it if you do not believe >me. It w

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >Third, what makes it off-topic? Hmm,

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> Did you have that thought BEFORE you started this with an uncalled-for dig > against Linux, or afterwards? Oh, dear; yet another reader who did not get the point. That was no dig against Linux. Please reread it if you do not believe me. It was a "dig" against those who slander NT with far more

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> Then why, oh why, are you baiting us??!! It's because of postings like > yours that these pointless, off-topic religious arguments get started in > the first place. This is a Linux list--do expect us NOT to defend it? > > As I said before, let's keep it off this list! > > [Sorry for throwing

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> I have never seen an NT server go for more then 3 weeks without > crashing, mine or anyone elses. The logest I'd seen a Server up was 5 > months, then it turned out it had been left in a back office unconnected > to the network, not running a program, on a UPS, playing a screen saver.

RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Edmunds, Keith
> From: James Michael Keller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [lots of NT flaming] Some NT servers stay up for months at a time (I know, I'm supporting a 7x24 NT network). Unix is better than NT for some (maybe most) things, but not all. If you want to evangelise at least learn how to spell. Keith

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread James Michael Keller
David Fisher wrote: > > > > > Gee. With NT, this would have been child's play! > > > > > Yea, but with NT, it would'a screwed up after a day or two, and > > cost you thousands in unnecessery support calls, crashes, downtime, etc, > > etc... > > How, then, do you account for the existence

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >Might it not be time for the Linux community to grow up and stop these >incess

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Edmunds, Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 8:42 AM Subject: RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >Some NT servers stay up for months at a time (I know, I'm suppor

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread Mike Edwards
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, David Fisher wrote: > > > > Gee. With NT, this would have been child's play! > > > > > Yea, but with NT, it would'a screwed up after a day or two, and > > cost you thousands in unnecessery support calls, crashes, downtime, etc, > > etc... > > How, then, do you account

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-05 Thread David Fisher
> > > Gee. With NT, this would have been child's play! > > > Yea, but with NT, it would'a screwed up after a day or two, and > cost you thousands in unnecessery support calls, crashes, downtime, etc, > etc... How, then, do you account for the existence of all those NT installations in whi

RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread David Buddrige
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Edwards [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 8:23 PM > To: David Fisher > Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO > > On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, David Fisher wrote: > > > > Gee. With NT,

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread David Fisher
Gee. With NT, this would have been child's play! Michael H. Price II wrote: > > I have a RedHat 5.0 installation on a desktop machine and a laptop and > have been going crazy trying to get a PLIP connection between the two. > I have read every section containing the word PLIP in the NAG, > NET-

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: David Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, June 04, 1998 6:09 AM Subject: Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >Gee. With NT, this would have been child's play! Yes; even after you got

Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread Michael H. Price II
I have a RedHat 5.0 installation on a desktop machine and a laptop and have been going crazy trying to get a PLIP connection between the two. I have read every section containing the word PLIP in the NAG, NET-3-HOWTO, and the PLIP mini-HOWTO (which is far from informative.) The laptop has no netw

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Original Message- From: Michael H. Price II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 10:38 PM Subject: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO >The laptop has no network connections while the desktop machine has an >e

RE: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread graham . dodd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ > -Original Message- > From: Michael H. Price II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 05:38 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO > > > I have a Re

Re: Need PLIP info other than crappy HOWTO

1998-06-04 Thread Mike Edwards
On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, David Fisher wrote: > Gee. With NT, this would have been child's play! You're just begging for a flame war, aren't you? Let's keep it off this list! == Mike Edwards, MIS Edwards Graphic Arts, Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PLEASE read the Red