RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 Aug 2003 16:56:58 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 Aug 2003 16:54:23 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Again, you're not understanding the problem. When you boot you transfer to the MBR which loads GRUB. GRUB then loads the config file and prints the boot images and identifies to itself where the kernels images are located. When you select one it transfers to that kernel image

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:23:40 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: That's where you are wrong!!! It doesn't find the .conf file that is why it goes no further. The very first thing it does is try to locate the .conf file so that [...] *sigh* That's

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB failure Again, you're not understanding the problem. When you boot you transfer to the MBR which loads

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:23:40 -0500, Otto Haliburton

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:26:39 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: Perhaps the problem owner can explain what I am misunderstanding here? IMHO you have understood the problem perfectly. Unless we hear once more from Ashley (who is confronted with this

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Update, forgot one little detail. Maybe I misunderstand here, but this seems to be a situation where - A working Linux system using GRUB with MBR on HD-A, .conf file on HD-A had a new disk drive HD-B added to it. They did nothing apparently to reconfigure the box

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:26:39 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:51:38 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: What I did notice is there wasn't a /boot partition in the listing that was sent You don't need a /boot partition. The grub.conf was perfectly valid with /dev/hda1 = (hd0,0) being the root

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:56, Otto Haliburton wrote: For you to solve this problem I think that you need to read what happens when you boot. I'm not trying to insult you but from what you are stating you don't understand how the computer boots and therefore what happens in GRUB. On Fri,

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Maybe I misunderstand here, but this seems to be a situation where - A working Linux system using GRUB with MBR on HD-A, .conf file on HD-A had a new disk drive HD-B added to it. They did nothing apparently to reconfigure the box bootwise. They added the

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Ashley said that was done as well as changed the hardware to single boot disk from master/slave. The only solution seems to be reinstall hdb which indicates to me that it is not hardware related but something is causing the partitions to be changed. There maybe some link or

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
weird thought switching her disk geometry scheme to LBA and re-installing GRUB should I did not see her? original psoting so I dont know exactly what her two drive setup was. But I thought most systems were running LBA mode by default now adays. Perhaps the setup had two different

Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Michael Schwendt wrote: Unless we hear once more from Ashley (who is confronted with this weird problem), we can only speculate that is hardware-related most likely. Setting the disk geometry scheme to LBA and re-installing GRUB should _theoretically_ fix it. This has certainly sparked an

RE: GRUB Failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Well I'm not so sure about that.. whenever GRUB doesn't find it's grub.conf file, it just enters it's CLI mode from where you can do things manually. This is not the problem. I've had the same situation happen to me with LILO, when I first installed RH, , and one fine day for

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
What I did notice is there wasn't a /boot partition in the listing that was sent You don't need a /boot partition. The grub.conf was perfectly valid with /dev/hda1 = (hd0,0) being the root partition and containing the /boot directory. The code from MBR fails to load GRUB main

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
Let refine my answer to it can't find the grub directory period. The MBR is not even finding the start of the secondary loader here. Perhaps it all happens too fast - Does the drive light flicker when it tries to load phase two or not? If no disk activity after the initial MBR load is seen

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
This has certainly sparked an interesting conversation, and aside from me trying everything everyone has suggested here, I don't know what else to do than to just say 'fuck it'. It works with hdb in place. There is, to me, no logical explanation as to why grub would just decide

RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashley M. Kirchner Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure Michael Schwendt wrote: Unless we hear once more from Ashley (who is confronted with this weird

RE: GRUB Failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
Remember. You can boot with a floppy and everything works correctly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB Failure Well I'm not so sure about

RE: GRUB Failure

2003-08-01 Thread Otto Haliburton
There is also a explanation if the volumes are LVM or RAID. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB Failure Remember. You can boot with a floppy

RE: GRUB Failure

2003-08-01 Thread Kenneth Goodwin
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB Failure Well I'm not so sure about that.. whenever GRUB doesn't find it's

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