help.
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From: wd8chl <_wd8...@gmail.wd8_ (mailto:wd8...@gmail.com) >
To: _repeater-buil...@repeater-buirep_
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *re
MCH wrote:
> It's not irrelevant when you want people to know that their DTV channel
> X may not be ON channel X anymore. People need to understand what
> virtual channels are.
>
> For example: Why is my local channel 43 interfering with my 6M repeater
> now? Well, if you don't know about virtu
MCH wrote:
> It's not a matter of what you said - it's a matter of what others read!
>
> Some people think their Analog channel 7 is on Digital channel 7 as well
> - just a different frequency. In reality, in the same market the Analog
> Channel 7 is on a completely different channel even though
It's not irrelevant when you want people to know that their DTV channel
X may not be ON channel X anymore. People need to understand what
virtual channels are.
For example: Why is my local channel 43 interfering with my 6M repeater
now? Well, if you don't know about virtual channels, then you'r
It's not a matter of what you said - it's a matter of what others read!
Some people think their Analog channel 7 is on Digital channel 7 as well
- just a different frequency. In reality, in the same market the Analog
Channel 7 is on a completely different channel even though they still
call the
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Barry wrote:
> > Unfortunately, this problem was caused mostly by 1 person who simply
> > doesn't
>
> > understand. When we attempted to ask questions and explain it to
> > him, his
>
> > response to us was "READ IT AGAIN"!!!
>
> And I'll tell you again-READ IT AGAIN!
>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: wd8...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:46:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> Unfortunately, this problem was caused mostly by 1 person
OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> > I agree, this should not be difficult. But for some reason, it is and
the
> > poster is unable to answer simple questions. Instead, he responds with
"READ
> > IT AGAIN"!
> >
> > That is why
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Jacob Suter wrote:
> It matters a lot when you're looking to purchase an antenna.
>
> All UHF/VHF antennas are a compromise. Get what you need or get both
> and run multiple feed-lines or an RF switch.
To some end. Then you get serious and purchase a pair of crossed
log-per
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> I agree, this should not be difficult. But for some reason, it is and the
> poster is unable to answer simple questions. Instead, he responds with "READ
> IT AGAIN"!
>
> That is why I asked the callsign of the station we are talking about, to look
> at exactly what they are
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> Unfortunately, this problem was caused mostly by 1 person who simply doesn't
> understand. When we attempted to ask questions and explain it to him, his
> response to us was "READ IT AGAIN"!!!
>
And I'll tell you again-READ IT AGAIN!
MCH wrote:
> Well, it matters to those of us who are "playing in the RF pool". This
> whole argument started because of an issue with a "Channel 7"
> transmitter and some people saying if it's called Channel 7 and it's DTV
> it may not be on RF Channel 7 (174-180 MHz).
>
> I think the original
MCH wrote:
> You know, I just though of another example that needs 'fixed'.
Do you mean that it 'needs to be fixed'?
|cP
My local
> Channel 2 is on RF channel 2 on the cable system (a mistake, I'm sure).
> 4 is on 3, 11 is on 12, 53 is on 7, 22 is on 10, and 13 is on 9.
>
> If people can unde
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> It would be nice to know the callsign of the channel 7 we are talking about.
not relevant
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> What frequency was channel 7 digital and frequency channel 7 analog?
> -- Original Message --
> Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:39 AM PST
> From: wd8chl
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> Specifically, channel 7 in what city? Or tell us the callsign?
> -- Original Message --
> Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:39 AM PST
> From: wd8chl
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to
In my opinion, a large part of the "DTV problem" is the fact that so many TV
stations are changing the RF channel for their broadcast. Many are changing
tower locations and antenna elevations as well. These stations decided to
keep this information essentially to themselves. Their feeling was th
ncluding myself.
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Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:33:53 PM PST
From: MCH
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> You know, I was doubting the arguments posed by the government, but I'm
> startin
digital broadcasting. note- I am
NOT talking about virtual channel 6, I am talking about 82-88 MHz TV channel
6!!
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From: "Ken Decker"
To:
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roups.com
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 19:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
You know, I just though of another example that needs 'fixed'. My local
Channel 2 is on RF channel 2 on the cable system (a mistake, I'm sure).
4 is
ahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Oliver
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:51 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really*
> work
>
> It really does not matter what channel they are on as the tv's or
>
g and play.
>
> tom
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: MCH
>> To:
>> Date: 3/6/2009 10:33:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really*
> work
>> You know, I was doubting the arguments posed by the government, b
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > *From:* JOHN MACKEY <mailto:jmac...@usa.net>
> > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Friday, M
; Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* JOHN MACKEY <mailto:jmac...@usa.net>
>> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 06,
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> Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:35:36 PM PST
> From: "Chuck Kelsey" <mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.com>>
> To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HD
poster is unable to answer those
questions.
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Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:35:35 PM PST
From: "Ken Decker"
To:
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> Good grief folks, how difficult is this?
>
> Checkout
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From: JOHN MACKEY
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
What is the callsign of the (ch. 7) station we are talking about?
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From: "JOHN MACKEY"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> What is the callsign of the (ch. 7) station we are talking about?
>
> -- Original Message --
> Received: Fri, 06 Ma
What is the callsign of the (ch. 7) station we are talking about?
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From: "Chuck Kelsey"
To:
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> The same.
>
>
>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: wd8...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:17:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
Paul Plack wrote:
> Jim,
>
> You might want to "READ IT AGAIN&quo
It would be nice to know the callsign of the channel 7 we are talking about.
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Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:09:28 AM PST
From: Tom Parker
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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> You real
The same.
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From: "JOHN MACKEY"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> What frequency was channel 7 digital and frequency channel 7 analog?
>
>
Specifically, channel 7 in what city? Or tell us the callsign?
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Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:39 AM PST
From: wd8chl
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> Paul Plack wrote:
>
What frequency was channel 7 digital and frequency channel 7 analog?
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Received: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:12:39 AM PST
From: wd8chl
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> Paul Plack wr
You realize that Ch 7 digital may be on Ch 39 analog's frequency even
though it comes in as CH 7 Digital.
wd8chl wrote:
Paul Plack wrote:
> Jim,
>
> You might want to "READ IT AGAIN" yourself. Here's where the
> misunderstanding started.
>
> John wrote that if the digital is on a very differen
Paul Plack wrote:
> Jim,
>
> You might want to "READ IT AGAIN" yourself. Here's where the
> misunderstanding started.
>
> John wrote that if the digital is on a very different frequency,
> reception may be different. Your response was that if your antenna
> worked on one, it should work on the ot
At 2/23/2009 15:28, you wrote:
>All of this talk about DTV is irrelvent..because " TV IS ONLY A FAD "
>and " IT WILL NEVER LAST " !
>Or at least that's what they said when it came about ...way back then.
Back when? 20's or 40's? Big difference between the two, as the
20's/early 30's wa
der@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
> change is a reason why digital reception may be problematic
Jacob Suter wrote:
> Is this the reason for the move to UHF? Back when I lived in the city I
> never really saw much/any 'ghosting' on UHF stations, but horrible ghosting
> on some VHF (all the transmitters were within a couple miles of each other,
> so it wasn't an issue of transmitter/receiver s
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> Digital Channel 7 may NOT be the same as Analog Channel 7. It is the
> frequency they are using that can be different.
READ IT AGAIN
> -- Original Message --
>> In a message dated 2/23/2009 5:08:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wd8...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
Joe wrote:
> It's more confusing than that. In the HDTV world there is RF channel 7
> and Virtual channel 7. They may or (probably) may not be the same
> frequency.
>
> Joe
read it again!!!
> wd8chl wrote:
>> Channel 7 is Channel 7. What it shows on the screen is meaningless.
>>
by on these things. There's
> manufacturer numbers, but who believes a manufacturer when they're talking
> about their own receivers?
>
>
>
> We're hams… we know how to make a receive antenna system work… but if the
> receiver is crud…
>
>
>
> Nate WY
oogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
> buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:38 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really*
> work
>
> Dynamic multipath interfe
the new station is on 6 but supposed to ID with a UHF channel number.
> What channel are they actually on?
>
> Joe M.
>
> Gerald Pelnar wrote:
>> There was a problem in Florida with this. Channel 6 analog moved to UHF
>> DTV
>> and kept channel 6-1. the new channel 6 DTV apparently put themsel
receivers for a
> while.
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Gerald Pelnar
> McPherson, Ks
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:42
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Don Kupferschmidt wrote:
> Also reminds me of when I was *DUMB & STUPID* in my earlier years of
> CB (before I got my ham license), and I asked on air for a radio
> check!
We still hear those today:
"Am I making it in?"
--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst
-
From: "Joe"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> Only if they are on RF channel 7 after the switch. Some stations wanted
> to keep their identity, such as "Channel 2, New York City"
you?
Don, KD9PT
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From: radio5...@aol.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
Answer: All of them :)
In a message dated 2/23/2009 2:48:00 P.
At 09:47 2/23/2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
>There's the rub.
>
>People had TV that they could watch, that now goes away, forcing them to pay
>for cable or dish.
Or move into civilization. It's all your own choice
Or live without TV, lots of folks are opting for that.
And at the prices they are
dio5...@aol.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
Answer: All of them :)
In a message dated 2/23/2009 2:48:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
demo...@rollanet.org wr
Answer: All of them :)
In a message dated 2/23/2009 2:48:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
demo...@rollanet.org writes:
Reminds me of when the CB'ers in town ask me "how many channels" my ic-7000
has.
Harsh
=]
Chris
Kb0wlf
**Get a jump start on your taxes. Find a tax professional
Digital Channel 7 may NOT be the same as Analog Channel 7. It is the
frequency they are using that can be different.
-- Original Message --
> In a message dated 2/23/2009 5:08:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wd8...@gmail.com writes:
>
> I should be able to use any normal TV antenna.
Gordon 'Yeti' wrote:
Each state is just like it's own country anyway - it's own laws, taxes, etc.
Don't see why organising some radio transmitters seems like such a big
deal
What you are failing to recognize, is that coordination of adjacent
states, channels, frequencies is a necessity o
How many more times do we have to read the same post?
In a message dated 2/23/2009 3:43:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
wd8...@gmail.com writes:
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
> change is a reason why digital reception may be probl
From: Barry
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
--
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: n...@natetech.com
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:53:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
If it does take that long, then we're a country full of idiots, who
pro
gan.
>
> Chuck
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gordon 'Yeti'" <mailto:coltturbo%40omne.uk.net>>
> To: <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Buil
ichigan.
Chuck
- Original Message -
From: "Gordon 'Yeti'"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
>
> We have pretty much complete coverage (even in hilly areas) with UHF
> transmitters (and lots of repeaters).
>
>
DTV channel numbers are relatively meaningless, it's the frequency that
counts.
Chris
N9LLO
In a message dated 2/23/2009 5:08:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
wd8...@gmail.com writes:
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
> change i
It's more confusing than that. In the HDTV world there is RF channel 7
and Virtual channel 7. They may or (probably) may not be the same
frequency.
Joe
wd8chl wrote:
> Channel 7 is Channel 7. What it shows on the screen is meaningless.
>
Of Gordon 'Yeti'
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
This is to be expected from a country that managed to vote George W bush
into power twice really.
You'd have tho
; geez guys this isn't that hard!
>
> > - Original Message - From: wd8chl To:
> > Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 23,
> 2009 7:10
> > AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to
Don't get me going on digital, public safety two-way. Another nightmare.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: "MCH"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
>
> Not too much
epeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
Nate Duehr wrote:
>> You realize that the "channel" displayed on the TV is a data element, and
>> has nothing to do with the actual RF frequency the station is
transmitting
&
l 7 is channel 7! You are taking a
channel 7 and moving it!
the only concern is the channel-i don't give a what the screen says!
geez guys this isn't that hard!
> - Original Message - From: wd8chl To:
> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009
Or a converter.
Not too much different than what's being done to Land Mobile, eh?
Joe M.
Chuck Kelsey wrote:
> There's the rub.
>
> People had TV that they could watch, that now goes away, forcing them to pay
> for cable or dish.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> Which shows
From: wd8chl
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
I should be able to use any normal TV antenna. If it works on analog Ch
7, for instance, it should work on digital
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:02 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
It will take at least a generation to straighten this mess
out IF over the air television survives.
Milt
23, 2009 7:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
> change is a reason why digital reception may be problematic. For
>
ry 23, 2009 5:02 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
It will take at least a generation to straighten this mess
out IF over the air television survives.
Milt
N3LTQ
e a receive antenna system work. but if the
receiver is crud.
Nate WY0X
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:28 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat O
Huh? Maybe you're saying this, but out local CH 2 is DTV CH 25, but
after the CH 25 signal is found, it is entered as CH 2 again even though
the RF is on CH 25.
I agree with CHL - two signals on CH 7 (or any channel) should have the
same coverage from the same antenna either analog or digital.
There's the rub.
People had TV that they could watch, that now goes away, forcing them to pay
for cable or dish.
Chuck
- Original Message -
> Which shows again something that has been true all along, as hams
> well know: Spend your $$$ on the antenna.For UHF you are much
> bette
From: Dave Gomberg
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:53:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
At 07:46 2/23/2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
>
At 07:46 2/23/2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
>if you have a STRONG digital signal, you'll be OK. Anything less, then
>all bets are off. That's not to say it won't work, it just becomes
>unpredictable.
Which shows again something that has been true all along, as hams
well know: Spend your $$$ on the
At 07:46 2/23/2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
>if you have a STRONG digital signal, you'll be OK. Anything less, then
>all bets are off. That's not to say it won't work, it just becomes
>unpredictable.
Which shows again something that has been true all along, as hams
well know: Spend your $$$ on the
At 21:19 2/22/2009, wd8chl wrote:
>Virtually everybody I have talked to has had nothing but problems with
>DTV. Invariably they get fewer channels, and stations that are good to
>excellent in analog can frequently be unwatchable in digital. To see a
>digital as reliably as an analog is the exceptio
n't work, it just becomes
unpredictable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_terrestrial_television
Chuck
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Kelsey"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* wor
.
Chuck
- Original Message -
From: "wd8chl"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
>> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
>&g
Joe wrote:
> Only if they are on RF channel 7 after the switch.
Channel 7 is Channel 7. What it shows on the screen is meaningless.
>
> wd8chl wrote:
>> I should be able to use any normal TV antenna. If it works on analog Ch
>> 7, for instance, it should work on digital ch 7. Period. If it do
Only if they are on RF channel 7 after the switch. Some stations wanted
to keep their identity, such as "Channel 2, New York City". When they
switch to HDTV they may call themselves "Channel 2-1" but their RF
frequency may be 33 or something else. Their Virtual Channel will be
2-1, but the
JOHN MACKEY wrote:
> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
> change is a reason why digital reception may be problematic. For
> example, if you are using a VHF antenna to try to receive
> a UHF digital signal, that will be problematic.
I should be able to use any nor
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> >
> > That's the gripe. If I put up an antenna that works fine for analog,
> > there is no excuse for i
full
power with their DTV signal.
Chuck
- Original Message -
From: "JOHN MACKEY"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
> If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequ
Some parts of the world use a different format for their digital. The one in
the US tends to be very unforgiving of multipath.
Chuck
- Original Message -
"So you suggest the physics in your part of the world differs from over
>here? as so far digital in my country has been success
> -- Original Message --
> Received: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:14:14 PM PST
> From: wd8chl
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really*
> work
>>
>> That's the gripe. If I put up an antenna that works fi
09:14:14 PM PST
From: wd8chl
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
>
> That's the gripe. If I put up an antenna that works fine for analog,
> there is no excuse for it NOT to work with digital, excep
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: wd8...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:19:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
Jacob Suter wrote:
> Outlook needs a 'trigger lock' on the send butt
Jacob Suter wrote:
> Outlook needs a 'trigger lock' on the send button... Also, I have no idea
> why outlook decided to add a bunch of crap to my email. Guess I should be
> using a decent mail program!
;c} Yeah-Thunderbird is one of the best ways to go!
>
> edits below:
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> C> Most preamps I r
Outlook needs a 'trigger lock' on the send button... Also, I have no idea
why outlook decided to add a bunch of crap to my email. Guess I should be
using a decent mail program!
edits below:
C> Most preamps I run into are at least 10 years old. Sure they might still
work, but RF transistor techn
How much RF does it take to get a clear NTSC picture? Usable?
I know the local cable tower tried to get at least a -20 dBm signal (!!!) on
analog TV inputs.
Most DTV converter units with published spec's need between -82 dBm and -86
dBm at the antenna jack on the back of the unit to capture a
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