[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-12-04 Thread David D.
I would have to agree that an IDE is a little bit over the top for Ruby and Rails development. When I was developing on a mac, I used Textmate. It has been often described as emacs for mac. Needless to say, on Linux, I use emacs. I use a nice collection of plugins from

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-27 Thread Peter De Berdt
Well, here we have it, everyone has their favorite and if it makes you more productive and your development time more enjoyable, good on you. Personally, I think diversity is a good thing. I for one don't really like all-in-one IDEs, other people do. Linux people generally already have a

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-27 Thread Ed Howland
Peter makes very good points. Thanks for the wrap-up. (And I was just being tongue-in-cheek about the my reasons for getting a Mac.) Yiannis has a valid point too. There should be a nice X-Platform IDE that ships with Ruby core or is at least considered the de-facto standard. Some people just

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-27 Thread Greg Donald
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote: Some people just take to a language if it comes with a nice environment to work in. You mean like a bash prompt on Linux? -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread stevo84
I do really recommend checking out RubyMine from JetBrains - it is designed specificaly for Ruby/Rails. Just give it a try and You will search no longer On Aug 24, 3:25 am, ZRiddick tcr.t...@gmail.com wrote: Really strange that I cannot find a lot of discussion on a good RoR IDE. Most of what I

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Howland
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: I develop under linux that doesn't have textmate. I'm using netbeans and I think it is a complete ide for develop rails apps. Thought I'd chime in here. Although I use mac+textmate [1] now, earlier I used gEdit under Ubuntu. You

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote: [1] Got the mac only to use textmate with RoR work. So you got yourself a $3500 text editor? Congrats. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Howland
I think it is deplorable that there aren't any good [1] Ruby IDEs out there. Python comes with one (Idle). [1] By good I mean free/open source and best of breed. Rewriting the Python description of IDLE: coded in 100% pure Ruby, using the tkinter GUI toolkit cross-platform: works on Windows and

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Ed Howland
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote: [1] Got the mac only to use textmate with RoR work. So you got yourself a $3500 text editor?  Congrats. -- Greg Donald destiney.com |

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Ed Howland ed.howl...@gmail.com wrote: So you got yourself a $3500 text editor?  Congrats. Yes! And I'll never go back. :) I say the same thing about Emacs. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Yiannis
I feel that the whole community is supporting mac and textmate but I found that this is a problem. We should use cross platform tools if we want more people to try rails. All the screencasts I have seen are using with textmate, for example how easy it is to setup an autotest without growl, rspec

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Johndel Deliyiannis wrote: I feel that the whole community is supporting mac and textmate but I found that this is a problem. We should use cross platform tools if we want more people to try rails. All the screencasts I have seen are using with textmate, for example how easy it is to setup an

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-26 Thread Andre Lewis
I recommend Rubymine without any hesitation. Well worth the money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ruby on Rails: Talk group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Iain Davis
This is discussion has been very helpful to me: I'm learning Rails (and Ruby), so far I've primarily been using Emacs and command line. But I also I had given NetBeans (and a couple of other IDEs) a brief try on the off-chance that I was missing out on something that I would like to have. I found

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread MattB
Aptana, particularly RadRails/Studio for Rails 3, had still many problems of their own, last time I looked. If that was Aptana Studio 2, it might be worth another look at Studio 3 beta. Works great for me with Rails 3. I'm on a Mac though, so can't comment on how it looks or behaves under

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Walton
Sorry to jump in mid-stream here, but On Aug 25, 12:29 am, Michael Schuerig mich...@schuerig.de wrote: Last week! I just found it too big and bloated for Rails needs Make sure you're using the Ruby-only version of NB unless you really need the other stuff. There's definitely a

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Wednesday 25 August 2010, Bill Walton wrote: Sorry to jump in mid-stream here, but On Aug 25, 12:29 am, Michael Schuerig mich...@schuerig.de wrote: Last week! I just found it too big and bloated for Rails needs Make sure you're using the Ruby-only version of NB unless you really

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Walton
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael Schuerig mich...@schuerig.de wrote: My ~/.netbeans/6.9 directory has grown to an amazing 856MB, largely consisting of downloaded updates, I reckon. Ouch. OTOH, that's like $0.10 worth of storage now, right? Is there a way to delete the obsolete stuff

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Pavling
On 25 August 2010 20:08, Bill Walton bwalton...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to jump in mid-stream here, but On Aug 25, 12:29 am, Michael Schuerig mich...@schuerig.de wrote: Last week! I just found it too big and bloated for Rails needs Make sure you're using the Ruby-only version of NB

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Pavling
On 25 August 2010 22:20, Michael Pavling pavl...@gmail.com wrote: and has done since the first time I tried it in Jan 2009. Correction, it was April when I got debugging working :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ruby on Rails: Talk group. To post

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-25 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Wednesday 25 August 2010, Bill Walton wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael Schuerig mich...@schuerig.de wrote: My ~/.netbeans/6.9 directory has grown to an amazing 856MB, largely consisting of downloaded updates, I reckon. Ouch. OTOH, that's like $0.10 worth of storage now,

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Jerome Fillioux
Hi, We are using Netbeans since early 6.x versions, and are very happy with it. RubyMine is also an excellent choice, but you'll have to buy it. For the Eclipse part of the question, there is two solutions : - Aptana - 3rdRails (not free) but I was not please last time I gave them a try. On the

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Paweł K
I think NetBeans 6.9 is a good choice for beginners (hints, checks syntax etc.), and then they can also move to Terminal+TextMate or any other hardcore text editor ;) On 24 Sie, 10:15, Jerome Fillioux jerome.filli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are using Netbeans since early 6.x versions, and are

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Mauro
I develop under linux that doesn't have textmate. I'm using netbeans and I think it is a complete ide for develop rails apps. On 24 August 2010 11:00, Paweł K komr...@gmail.com wrote: I think NetBeans 6.9 is a good choice for beginners (hints, checks syntax etc.), and then they can also move

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Edmond Kachale
2010/8/24 Paweł K komr...@gmail.com I think NetBeans 6.9 is a good choice for beginners (hints, checks syntax etc.), and then they can also move to Terminal+TextMate or any other hardcore text editor ;) I think Netbeans 6.8 (or later) is still as good. Netbeans 6.8, for example, has a

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Mauro
With terminator, I use vim on one window, script/server on the second window, git on the third and forth windows. I have customized vim configurations that I use to help me with hints, syntax highlighting, e.t.c. I'll give a try ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Mauro
On 24 August 2010 14:39, Mauro mrsan...@gmail.com wrote: With terminator, I use vim on one window, script/server on the second window, git on the third and forth windows. I have customized vim configurations that I use to help me with hints, syntax highlighting, e.t.c. I'll give a try ;-)

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Walker
ZRiddick wrote: Really strange that I cannot find a lot of discussion on a good RoR IDE. Most of what I have pulled up dates to 2008. Also the Eclipse IDE has trouble finding the JRE running on Windows 7 64 bit. Very surprised that Eclipse is not more concerned with having there platform

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread gezope
I remember some posts about this topic, as I see someone added the links, I'm sure you can also find it. The answer is: depends on your need. Do you want it for free? Easy to use or easy to install? Or fast starting? Netbeans, Eclipse + Aptana plugin, Aptana 3 (standalone) or Textmate are very

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Todd Weeks
Thanks all for your help. I must admit part of the purpose of my post was to vent my own ignorance. Your responses are very encouraging. I'm getting better at searching the group itself. Happy learned how to put. LOL But its nice to know there are persons out there to help when needed. Any of you

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread MattB
You will get lots of opinions, but the only way to know for sure is to try them out, and see what works for you. Even then there will be lots of features that are not apparent or exposed at first, so you need to take a bit of time to get to know them before making a decision. I'm currently using

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
MattB wrote: You will get lots of opinions, but the only way to know for sure is to try them out, and see what works for you. Even then there will be lots of features that are not apparent or exposed at first, so you need to take a bit of time to get to know them before making a decision.

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Yiannis
I think I should try Vim or emacs with rails but I don't know with who I should go with. I tried both and I feel the same... The most people are using vim in ruby community, why? I heard that vim scripting can be replaced with ruby, is this true and that is the reason that the most people are

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Johndel Deliyiannis wrote: I think I should try Vim or emacs with rails but I don't know with who I should go with. Why do you want to use either, instead of something like KomodoEdit or TextMate? I tried both and I feel the same... The most people are using vim in ruby community, why? I

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Yiannis
Why do you want to use either, instead of something like KomodoEdit or TextMate? 1) Textmate is only for mac, I prefer ubuntu :) 2) Textmate doesn't have real code completion 3) Textmate isn't good as an editor... it doesn't have tabs if you don't use a project and even to move the sidebar, you

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Leonardo Mateo
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser li...@ruby-forum.com wrote: Johndel Deliyiannis wrote: I think I should try Vim or emacs with rails but I don't know with who I should go with. Try the one you're more familiar with or the one that feels better on your fingertips. Why do

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Johndel Deliyiannis wrote: Why do you want to use either, instead of something like KomodoEdit or TextMate? [...] Komodoedit... hmmm I don't know him, I might try it but I doubt it can compare with vim and emacs, this editors are used from programmers many years. If you don't know about it,

Re: [Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Larry Meadors
This shows the best ruby IDE: http://tinyurl.com/mfbwav -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ruby on Rails: Talk group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread MattB
With reference to Aptana terminal tabs for Rails console, server general command line you wrote: I find this nearly useless for Rails. I'd rather use a real terminal program (on Mac OS, that means iTerm). Care to be more specific? A terminal is only as good as the shell you choose, and how

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
MattB wrote: With reference to Aptana terminal tabs for Rails console, server general command line you wrote: I find this nearly useless for Rails. I'd rather use a real terminal program (on Mac OS, that means iTerm). Care to be more specific? A terminal is only as good as the shell you

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Wednesday 25 August 2010, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote: How recently have you used NetBeans? Last week! I just found it too big and bloated for Rails needs I agree with that. I just don't agree that it's slow and clunky in general, at least on Mac OS. This seems like the perfect time

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Michael Schuerig wrote: On Wednesday 25 August 2010, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote: How recently have you used NetBeans? Last week! I just found it too big and bloated for Rails needs I agree with that. I just don't agree that it's slow and clunky in general, at least on Mac OS. This

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Agoofin
Netbeans works well, if you're concerned about the bloat/response simply turn some of the features off. I've used Rails for a few years and a basic editor just seems so, well basic. Netbeans isn't perfect, I don't use it to run the server or do the tests but for the simple pleasure of jumping

[Rails] Re: Ruby on Rails IDE

2010-08-24 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Bb Serviss wrote: Netbeans works well, if you're concerned about the bloat/response simply turn some of the features off. I've used Rails for a few years and a basic editor just seems so, well basic. Right! What more do you need? Netbeans isn't perfect, I don't use it to run the server or