[sage-devel] Sage derived distributions

2009-03-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I have a question about how to name the Sage derived distribution that I am doing. Originally I thought I would just use it for one of my projects, but then i realized that in fact I want to use it for all my projects. So I will call it probably Source Python Distribution (SPD) and it will

[sage-devel] local html documentation missing trailing /index.html

2009-03-19 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi I did sage -docbuild all html to provide local documentation on each of 100 PCs on which I image from a central server. It is a nice way to provide a lab in a low-bandwidth environment with sage and sage docs locally. The docs are viewed via a browser to

[sage-devel] Hyperlink in the html doc

2009-03-19 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear All, /begin{advertisement} First of all, You should look at the page http://wiki.sagemath.org/combinat/HelpOnTheDoc /end{advertisement} Does anyone tried and succeeded in making hyperlink between different doc page with ReST ? I can't manage to make it work... Let me

[sage-devel] Re: Hyperlink in the html doc

2009-03-19 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear All, /begin{advertisement} First of all, You should look at the page http://wiki.sagemath.org/combinat/HelpOnTheDoc /end{advertisement} Does anyone tried and succeeded in making hyperlink between different doc page with ReST ? I can't manage to make it work... I'm

[sage-devel] Re: website: tracking download activity more

2009-03-19 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, some additional information. Here is a table of all sites linking to sage which google knows about. The first column is the target, the second the page where the link is from and the third the time when it was seen. There are more than 10.000 pages linking to www.sagemath.org and well, if

[sage-devel] Re: website: tracking download activity more

2009-03-19 Thread Harald Schilly
. http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/sage_download_actions_20090308-20090319.zip Harald --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: Enthought tools install issues

2009-03-19 Thread Prabhu Ramachandran
On 03/18/09 21:07, Jaap Spies wrote: You need the development part of tcl/tk. In Ubuntu you should do something like apt-get install tk8.4-dev or so. I don't remember exactly (I'm not on Ubuntu right now). I'm not sure why you need to enable VTK_USE_TK at all. I think it would be safe to

[sage-devel] MuPAD source

2009-03-19 Thread Hazem
Hi everyone, Can anybody confirm that MuPAD was open source / viewable source at one time (when it was at the University of Paderborn), and if so, where to obtain the source? Hazem --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage derived distributions

2009-03-19 Thread rjf
how about parsley package approximating resources (of) sage less extensions (by) yakisoba. You might find something better for the last Y. Or for any of it :) On Mar 19, 2:16 am, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi, I have a question about how to name the Sage derived distribution

[sage-devel] Re: How to delete useless cell on the notebook

2009-03-19 Thread peak
It's so easy! thanks you all. Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Stan Schymanski wrote: To delete a whole section of the notebook, I type in something like #begin deletion in the first cell and something like #end deletion in the last cell, evaluate both, then click on the Edit

[sage-devel] Re: local html documentation missing trailing /index.html

2009-03-19 Thread Carl Witty
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Jan Groenewald j...@aims.ac.za wrote: Hi I did sage -docbuild all html to provide local documentation on each of 100 PCs on which I image from a central server. It is a nice way to provide a lab in a low-bandwidth environment with sage and sage docs

[sage-devel] Re: p-adic precision loss in charpoly

2009-03-19 Thread David Kohel
Hi, The algorithm used doesn't need to be specific to the p-adics, but shouldn't apply an algorithm for fields or integral domains. Rather than the matrix code, it looks like this is the source of the problem: sage: M.parent().base_ring() 101-adic Ring with capped relative precision 2 sage:

[sage-devel] Re: p-adic precision loss in charpoly

2009-03-19 Thread David Harvey
Hi guys, Thanks for looking into this. I ended up working around the problem by lifting to Z and doing the charpoly there (I know in advance the output precision, and the complexity is not that important for my application, so it's no big deal). I've put up a patch for review here:

[sage-devel] Re: MuPAD source

2009-03-19 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear Hazem, Can anybody confirm that MuPAD was open source / viewable source at one time (when it was at the University of Paderborn), and if so, where to obtain the source? If it was fully open it was at its very beginning (ie prior version 1.4 in 2000). The library which contains the

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in inverse_laplace?

2009-03-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Thanks Minh and Robert, On Mar 18, 8:28 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: This is because (f)(x) calls f at x rather than performing   multiplication. It is for exactly this kind of reason that we're   deprecating the call without explicit arguments behavior. OK, now I

[sage-devel] Re: MuPAD source

2009-03-19 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 03:44:15PM +0100, Florent Hivert wrote: Dear Hazem, Can anybody confirm that MuPAD was open source / viewable source at one time (when it was at the University of Paderborn), and if so, where to obtain the source? If it was fully open it was at its very

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in inverse_laplace?

2009-03-19 Thread Jason Grout
Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: Thanks Minh and Robert, On Mar 18, 8:28 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu wrote: This is because (f)(x) calls f at x rather than performing multiplication. It is for exactly this kind of reason that we're deprecating the call without

[sage-devel] Re: Sage derived distributions

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi, I have a question about how to name the Sage derived distribution that I am doing. Originally I thought I would just use it for one of my projects, but then i realized that in fact I want to use it for all my

[sage-devel] Re: what TeX macros should be available for docstrings? [was Re: LaTeX in docstrings]

2009-03-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Mar 18, 6:39 pm, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very interesting idea, and I think I can do it for ZZ, QQbar, etc., but I don't know how to deal with GF(p).  That is, in docstrings, you

[sage-devel] Re: what TeX macros should be available for docstrings? [was Re: LaTeX in docstrings]

2009-03-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Mar 19, 12:04 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 18, 6:39 pm, Carl Witty carl.wi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very interesting idea, and I think I can do it for ZZ, QQbar, etc.,

[sage-devel] Re: MuPAD source

2009-03-19 Thread Hazem
That is too bad, since MuPAD was conceived and created at a public university, supported by public funds, it does not seem right that a private company (The Mathworks) should have exclusive rights to the source code. Hazem On Mar 19, 11:18 am, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:

[sage-devel] Re: what TeX macros should be available for docstrings? [was Re: LaTeX in docstrings]

2009-03-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Mar 18, 1:48 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Why not have some special shortcut so that we can typeset any ring using Sage itself. E.g., in answer to your question what should CDF typeset as, I answer sage: latex(CDF) Then we can argue about what latex(CDF) should be in Sage

[sage-devel] Re: MuPAD source

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
2009/3/19 Hazem hazem.biqa...@gmail.com: That is too bad, since MuPAD was conceived and created at a public university, supported by public funds, it does not seem right that a private company (The Mathworks) should have exclusive rights to the source code. Hazem I agree that this is

[sage-devel] Re: Sage derived distributions

2009-03-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
Obviously I want to minimize the work I need to do, while doing enough changes, so that the result will not be Sage as requested by Michael. :) I think the above is fine.  In fact, I think it would be cool if you go one step further and make this a full standalone project Source Python

[sage-devel] Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
-- Forwarded message -- From: Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com Date: 2009/3/19 Subject: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO! To: William Stein wst...@gmail.com William, there it goes: http://diego.qualisyss.com/joomla/index.php I hope you enjoy it. Please feel free

[sage-devel] Re: Sage derived distributions

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
2009/3/19 Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz: Obviously I want to minimize the work I need to do, while doing enough changes, so that the result will not be Sage as requested by Michael. :) I think the above is fine.  In fact, I think it would be cool if you go one step further and make this

[sage-devel] Re: Fedora 10 binary of Sage 3.4 doesn't work

2009-03-19 Thread Kiran Kedlaya
I had a similar problem building from source, but running make just now seems to have fixed it. (FYI, my 64-bit office machine, formerly of RHEL5 fame, now runs Fedora 10.) Kiran On Mar 14, 12:45 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, mabshoff

[sage-devel] notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
Hi, I implementing the feature in the notebook before where it lists all users when you click on Share. I thought this was nice, since you could chose the ones you want. There are now 6598 users at sagenb.org, which makes the share button nearly useless. Are people OK with us changing share

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread Maurizio
I know this is not being polite from me, but would you also consider implementing folders in SAGE notebook? I would really appreciate, since the number of my notebooks is growing fast, and I'm wondering how you guys are managing it, maybe the feature it's already there and I don't know about it.

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: Hi, I implementing the feature in the notebook before where it lists all users when you click on Share. I thought this was nice, since you could chose the ones you want. There are now 6598 users at sagenb.org, which makes the share button nearly useless. Are people

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is not being polite from me, but would you also consider implementing folders in SAGE notebook? I would really appreciate, since the number of my notebooks is growing fast, and I'm wondering how you guys

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread Maurizio
You are so kind in asking me this! Well, I find that labels are SO beautiful and powerful, especially something like the way gmail let us use them. I agree that probably a label system, incorporated with an efficient search method (or filtering) would probably be even better to use and (maybe)

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE possible improvement

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi can anyone give an advice on how to adapt Quantities to let it be compatible with SAGE? I don't know how SAGE modifies the way to represent numbers, and why it does not comply with Quantities. For example, how

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE possible improvement

2009-03-19 Thread Maurizio
Thank you for your help. I realize now how silly it has been to ask such a general question here, with you guys just guessing. Even this not being the solution, this has still been helpful for me to understand something more. Hopefully, I'll get more into it. By the way, any other comment about

[sage-devel] Re: p-adic precision loss in charpoly

2009-03-19 Thread David Kohel
Hi, One can always work around a problem, but it would be better to discuss the best approach and put this in place. A related problem I had recently was in finding a random element of GL_n(ZZ/26ZZ) where n was 20-30. It was failing to terminate in the determinant computation. My guess is

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE possible improvement

2009-03-19 Thread Carl Witty
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: For example, how does SAGE generate an instance of sage.rings.integer.Integer? I hope this can help me. Well, I can at least answer this question. When you type at the sage: prompt, or in the notebook, the input is

[sage-devel] Fwd: Jasymca 2

2009-03-19 Thread Hazem
-- Forwarded message -- From: Helmut Dersch d...@fh-furtwangen.de Date: Mar 16, 3:45 am Subject: Jasymca 2 To: sci.math.symbolic Jasymca is an interactive system for solving math problems. It supports arbitrary precision numbers and symbolic variables. Scalars, vectors, and

[sage-devel] Re: p-adic precision loss in charpoly

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:00 PM, David Kohel drko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One can always work around a problem, but it would be better to discuss the best approach and put this in place. A related problem I had recently was in finding a random element of GL_n(ZZ/26ZZ) where n was 20-30.  

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Jasymca 2

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
Helmut, Thanks for posting about your GPL'd math software project. I found the description of the precise strategy you use for symbolic integration interesting: http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/jasymca2/Jasymca2en/node51.html On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Hazem

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Maurizio, On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP PS: I still encourage you to improve engineering features ;) Just to prevent misunderstanding on my part, is it possible for you to give an (incomplete) list of engineering features you have in

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Maurizio, On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP PS: I still encourage you to improve engineering features ;) Just to prevent misunderstanding on my part, is it

[sage-devel] Re: Sun Article

2009-03-19 Thread Dan Drake
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 at 10:26AM -0700, William Stein wrote: There is an article by Sun Microsystem about Sage this month: https://www.educonnection.org/ecommunity/educonnection/landing.page The banner cycles through several images. I've attached the Sage image. That's cool. Although I

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Maurizio, On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: I hope I didn't get misunderstood :) From my point of view, I was talking about enhancing the engineer oriented SAGE functions. OK, I thought you meant the *software* engineering part of Sage itself,

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE possible improvement

2009-03-19 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: Hi can anyone give an advice on how to adapt Quantities to let it be compatible with SAGE? I don't know how SAGE modifies the way to represent numbers, and why it does not comply with Quantities. Have you asked the Quantities developers to look at this thread? My guess

[sage-devel] Re: Sun Article

2009-03-19 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 at 10:26AM -0700, William Stein wrote: There is an article by Sun Microsystem about Sage this month: https://www.educonnection.org/ecommunity/educonnection/landing.page The banner cycles through

[sage-devel] Google summer of code

2009-03-19 Thread Jason Grout
I noticed that (as guessed) the Python Software Foundation was selected as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code. There aren't any Sage ideas up on the idea page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2009 If we are to propose a couple of ideas, now would be the time to do

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread kcrisman
I implementing the feature in the notebook before where it lists all users when you click on Share.  I thought this was nice, since you could chose the ones you want.  There are now 6598 users at sagenb.org, which makes the share button nearly useless.  Are people OK with us changing

[sage-devel] Re: notebook share button

2009-03-19 Thread kcrisman
So, up to now, my wishlist is: - better Laplace, Fourier, Zeta, any other transform management (especially in symbolic) - unit of measurement integration - extensible comparison between different implementations of all those features in the different packages (better to do the

[sage-devel] Re: Google summer of code

2009-03-19 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: I noticed that (as guessed) the Python Software Foundation was selected as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code.  There aren't any Sage ideas up on the idea page:

[sage-devel] Re: Error installing sage on Mac OSX 10.4.11 [cython]

2009-03-19 Thread fat chat, member, , no email, allowed, 2006, 11, 1, 18, 24, 35
Downloaded v3.4, also upgraded my python to 2.6, now I get different errors (No module named xxx) which I should be able to make some progress on; will update if successful. Also, python 2.3.5 does not like import statements of the form from A import x,y,z, but 2.6 handles them fine. RC On