h and
such instead", I'm only answering the man's question about what the
suggested S60 package contained. It should be noted that "as engineered"
the SMEC was programmed on a motor in a car that had ALL of the above items.
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I was sent the following message and am passing it along. His email address
is at the end of the message. Contact him not me for the parts.
Barry Goodall
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> I am writing to see if perhaps any of your members are interested in
> any used body parts for 80s fwds
I have posted some SDAC-14 pics on the SDAC website http://www.sdac.org
There are over 160 pics from the car show, most with captions identifying
the owners. The drag race pics are still "raw" as I haven't had a chance
yet to caption them.
Barry Goodall
Shelby
As long as they come from the same manufacturer, for example all the super
60 cams were made by Competition Cams, so they should be identical. If you
have an MP S60 cam and replaced it with another that had the same specs but
was manufactured by, say, Cam Dynamics, then it would need to be degreed
form and
mailing page make up the last two pages but are not numbered.
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s, but
the silicone will keep them from shaking off. Of course it needs to be
reapplied if the caps have been removed for service.
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> > I was just looking at an old Shelby Lancer brochure, and noticed that
the
>
> I am restoring car#134. I have the outside stripped
> down for a repaint due to failing clearcoat.I have a
> few questions on color. I want to repaint it exactly
> as factory built it.
To the best of my knowledge, the 86 GLHS started life as a black GLH turbo,
Shelby did not repaint them, only r
to the minimopar site above. http://www.sdac.org
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> > Didn't get any replies yet... anyone out there?
> >
> > My CSX threw code #27. What does it mean and how is it fixed? Any help
> > would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
> Well fine: (Taken from http://www.thedodgegarage.com/history_22.html)
>
> The Chrysler 2.2/2.5 liter four cylinder engine- A short history
>
> Presented to the Shelby-Dodge club at Ann Arbor Michigan July 12, 2000
> by Peter Badore D.C.V.I.P.
>
Thanks for posting this Stefan. I was sure I saw a
e that may
be valuable in such a project, is the "clout" of the national club to make
contacts and ask questions.
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thing and very tedious to do/compile.
If such a "history" could be any where near completed in the next 5 years,
we would be doing great.
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> I had an interesting thought about the living Shelby Dodge Survivors.
> For example: Looking at th
& pads were the same for the 4 lug setup
also as they only had one number listed for each.
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In the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports magazine (Nov issue) there is
a small write-up about SDAC-14 in the events section (page 156).
While not entirely accurate in facts, it is good press for SDAC none the
less. Two notable pics, one of the ChicagoLand New Yorker and a pic of Paul
Smith's
njected car
(turbo or not) Chrysler made since 1984 had TPS sensors (including the log
manifold T1 cars). They only got away from it recently with the drive by
wire setup (and actually it is still there, just not on the throttle body
anymore).
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Cliff wrote:
> Barry,
> I'm sorry but your incorrect here.
Read my message again. I said "I've never seen any MP
or Shelby Stage II computer that had a CARB
exemption number, but that doesn't make it not possible."
I DID NOT say they didn't exist. After my post, I thought I should have
phrased
Stefan wrote:
> I think the early kits may have been modified intakes, but its cool that
> MP/Turbo Auto cast a new manifold
You may be thinking of the intercooler kit that Spearco sold as they had
modified log intakes. The intercooler sat above the trans next to the
block. The normal log intake
GL Chapter will again provide cider and snacks at the car show. We are
expecting another banner turnout again this year with visitors for Illinois
and a large Canadian contingent. You do not have to be a GL or SDAC member
to attend, nor do you have to drive at SD or TD type vehicle in the event.
een what type of race use it is talking about (it should,
but doesn't).
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> The MAIN advantages of a twin-driveline setup:
>
> - - mild powered engines yield a large overall power output
> - - twin transmissions reduce wear and improve overall strength of
> driveline(s) since neither is carrying the entire burden of weight
> individually, and both are designed to.
A twi
> If you want 8 cylinders, get a V8.
> Richard Paul
>
While others have addressed the above also, I would like to point out that
the "$500" (or less) Shadow at SDAC-14 ran mid-low 13's in the quarter.
A V8 in one of our cars would not only require about as much fabrication,
but it simply would no
> I was out driving my Shelby Charger last Saturday
> when it just died going down the road. I checked the
> codes and it gives me a code 43.
>
To pulse the coil the power module provides a ground. The other side of the
coil should have 12v sitting on it all the time when the key is ON.The
l
> Actually, you will only see 12V on the coil when
> the ASD relay is closed, which only occurs for 1second
> after the ignition is turned on and when the
> ECU detects a HEP signal (while cranking).
>
> Barry Goodall said:
> > To pulse the coil the power module provides
All the solenoids on the strut tower are constructed the same and are very
easy to clean. If they are still electrically sound, they can be taken
apart, cleaned and lubricated with WD 40 for trouble free operation.
I can't recall the model year of your Daytona, so here are the part numbers
for 3
A correction on the part numbers I listed below. The 5227333 is good for
the 87 T1 & T2 and the 88 T2. For 1988 T1, 5227980 is correct (I don't know
where I got the "911" in my first post). The number I have below for 1989,
5227635 is for the 2.5 T1 while 5234018 is for the T2 application.
Sorr
n the stock lash adjusters
used with slider cams and the ones for roller cams.
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I just finished (on Thursday) fixing my 1990 Daytona VNT for a broken cam.
It broke a couple months back and I put off looking at it till it was almost
too late in the season. I put a brand new 88 TBI cam in it, as that is what
I was told was a good performer for it. This car had a broken cam abo
> I haven't been the SDML for years now. I thought I'd see whats new.
> I also updated my website.
>
> http://dodgez.com
>
>
> later
> Kevin
That's a VERY nice site you have there Kevin.
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> Please help me identify these.
>
> P4532036 -- MP1989 T2, catalog number is/was P5249019
> P5226766 -- Not found in my database
> P4532353 -- Not found in my database
> LOGIC MODULE CS1078 - Probably 1987 Shelby Lancer automatic module.
The stick module is CS1079 for both
> Steven Fong said:
> I had posted this part number request previously, and
> Barry Goodall and others replied, but I am still trying to
> find the part number of the MAP sensor solenoid
> for a 1988 Daytona Shelby Z, T2 .
>
> I was given a part number of 5227333, which
> K peeps, code 13 is flashing. Mechanic says he has a
> direct manifold hose running to the MAP sensor.
>
>< snip
>
> It looks like the short little premolded curvy hose is in place that
> connects the MAP sensor to what is likely the the baro read solenoid. I
> assume it uses this solenoid as a v
> So I just need to know how *exactly* to test the Baro, and what the
> expected readings *should* be. Because it very well may be that's the
> culprit.
>
> Now, I took off the hsoe to smell for fuel and couldn't, but I know you
> guys would prolly tell me that doesn't mean the FPR isn't leaking. ;
> So I just need to know how *exactly* to test the Baro, and what the
> expected readings *should* be. Because it very well may be that's the
> culprit.
>
> Now, I took off the hsoe to smell for fuel and couldn't, but I know you
> guys would prolly tell me that doesn't mean the FPR isn't leaking. ;
> OK, NEW Baro solenoid, checked all MAP voltages including
> with a hand vac pump at 15" of vac, have a single hose straight
> from fourway to baro, STILL throwing code 13! HELP!!! :(
> Tomorrow is the meet down here. This damned POS is gonna
> keep me from going :(
A couple of things about a
hat nature.
I have a relative in poor health that I look after and visit daily, but I
am single and retired from the normal job, so I have some time.
> Research on getting the proper information out to the others..
What's that? LOL
>Since when has this been such an issue?
Beats me.
Than
GLH Turbo
5227503 is not in my listing
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To be remove
to be cleaned. LOL. I believe it's
> counterclockwise. I think I remember the tool that's used
> to tension it hangs to the left, but can't remember for sure.
You remember correctly.
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or fuel pump is going bad.
Hope this helps.
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back for updates. We expect everything to
be pretty much solid by May 1.
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y refer to them as transmissions, but to be accurate they
are transaxles (whether stick with a clutch, or an automatic with a
torque converter).
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nter-clockwise will brighten them.
Beware that turning the knob all the way counter-clockwise till it
"clicks" will turn on the interior lights and they will stay on until
either they are turned off or the battery drains.
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ave proven unreliable and sometimes fail right out of the box.
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> Backed my '89 CSX out of the garage yesterday for a wash/wax and now
it
> just turns over but w
I conversion?
Either. Stock or stage 2, your choice.
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nt
to you. But, Pre-Registrations must be postmarked by June 15, 2005.
If you wish you can join SDAC on our website using PayPal for
dues payment.
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Good point David. I agree 1000%
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> While enthusiasm and active participation in projects to improve
Jason (and others),
For the time being, I am supporting Bill in his efforts to get the
current site under control. Over the winter, SDAC contributed to both
this list and the ShelbyRegistry that Bill has. I've also assured
Bill that I would be willing to help in any way I can. He has a
massive a
do so again in the future.
Beyond that there is no connection between SDAC and the entities Bill
Yohman oversees. Oh wait, yeah there is too, Bill is a member of
SDAC.
Barry Goodall
President, Shelby Dodge Auto Club
> I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby
This whole topic came up last fall and there were many that suggested
SDAC either take over or play a major role in the running of the
registry. Bill and I had an email conversation and discussed the pros
& cons of the whole thing. Bill also posted to this list explaining
what the current status
I was sent the following last night. Following his message is a
paragraph from their website describing the situation.
Barry
> Barry,
> I hope you can get this into the right hands. We are
> casting for a new nationally broadcasted reality show that is
> searching for the best driving team in t
I've never done those, but I would think a good flat black would work
well on them.
Barry Goodall
Shelby Dodge Auto Club
SDAC-15 is only two weeks away!! Come see the largest annual
gathering of SD's in the world!!
Details are on our
same requirement. All the timing labels I have
seen on the radiator core supports have shown 12 degrees for the Turbo
I application.
Barry Goodall
Shelby Dodge Auto Club
Just over a week till the 15th annual largest gathering of Shelby
Dodge or Turbo Dodge car
Check for corrosion on the plugs on the power module and logic module.
Typically the corrosion on the power module plugs is green crud, while
on the logic module connectors it is whitish with a tinge of green.
I've had similar problems on my cars all from corrosion (mostly logic
module problems).
I saw (and held) one that Tim Costello had done by American Stitches
in Mesquite Texas. It was superb!!The leather was tight, but soft
to the touch. It felt so good to the touch, I didn't want to put
it down. If I had a steering wheel like that in my car, I would want
to go on long trips
I don't recall that article, so it must have been before my time. I
don't know whether you are talking about converting to the Nippendenso
alternator though. That is what I did on my 86 GLHT and the only
other thing needed (besides the alternator) was the lower mount and
adjuster from an 88 & up
eated by the disparity
in price. And we actually had better parking spots than the cheap
seats did!
Barry Goodall
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Less than a week till SDAC-15 -- The largest gathering of Shelby
Dodges in the world!!!
Shaping up to be an awesome event!
Visit o
Clay,
Check your PVC valve & routing. If the PVC is stuck or broken where
it freely allows vacuum applied to the valve cover connection, that
could account for it.
Barry
> For some reason I though I would pull the oil fill cap off of the
valve
> cover. So I twisted it and went to pull up and it
> The CS badges that Dave at Positive Impression already has made up
looks
> better and fits. Just my opinion.
And ...
Dave is licensed by Shelby to use their logos
Dave's are cheaper I believe
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and a
short time driving it like this it was very easy to get used to, but I
just have to remember to tell anyone driving my car about it. My GLHT
is like that to this day (trans & clutch installed in 1990).
BTW, at the time I was so ticked off about this that I called the MP
hotline, and
The larger line should be the supply, the smaller line for return.
Barry
> Hello All,
> I have recently finished my rebuild/turbo replacement
> and can't seem to get my car started. Timing is
> perfect, good plugs, wires, new fuel pump, new fuel
> rail from TU, etc. I've gotten turned around
ese cars run right. Having all
the factory grounds in place and making sure they are free of
corrosion is really all that is needed.
Best of luck with your efforts, keep us posted.
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> 87 CSX's got the black inset painted Centurian II's
> Same as 87 Charger GLHS..Only difference was that
> the GLHS got the grey painted inset..
One other difference I haven't seen listed yet between the Centurion
I's used on 86 GLHS and the Centurion II's used in 87, is that on the
Centurio
of the page for fault code 25
description, it reads: "Fault code 33 is stored." That should read "Fault
code 25 is stored." It is a simple typo, and that's all.
My car is only getting 22 mpg. with AIS unplugged and 5-spd. I have removed
most of the plastic shrouding that
> actually the BCM does NOT control the pop up headlamps or headlamp
doors on
> the 90/91 daytona or lebaron. the 1990 daytona and lebaron both have
a headlamp
> control module with relays inside it like the 87 to 89 cars do, even
the plug
> is the same, box is differently shaped tho, actually blac
> I just noticed Angelo Taylor's name in Car and Driver. (Angelo
Taylor
> used to be a very active member on this list). He won the bracket
race
> at Car and Driver's 50th Anniversary part in Indy.
>
> Does anybody know what he was driving?
>
> Dennis Fuller
He drove a 1998 Plymouth Neon to vict
> It,s been a while , does any one know when the next Issue is goin
out ?
>
> Rich Golda
> Plains PA
> 89 Daytona Shelby -White T-Top
> current project is viper center hood vent in Daytona hood bump
Yep, it's been a while. I wanted to have an issue out in
mid-September, but mid-November looks
Anyone on this list with this car?
If so contact me, I have info you may be interested in.
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x27;t say that 6 is the highest in that place for the pre-89 cars
and 7 was for 1989 and up.
The Shelby was the top of the line for the Daytona so the 6th digit in
the VIN should reflect that.
Barry Goodall
Shelby Dodge Auto Club - www.sdac.org
> Looking at getting a late 80s, early 90s Dayton
essarily accurate for a Daytona.
Please note I included the original post in my first reply (it was
edited out in your post below), but someone didn't read carefully
before trying to discredit the info I supplied.
Barry Goodall
> Subject: SD> Shelby CSX VIN
>
> Hey Now Folks,
&
> I was out there about 3 weeks ago, got the same line. The Shelby
Dodges are
> in another bay, but he drives them when he is in town. That can mean
he
> likes themor, it can mean that they are considered the worthless
part of
> the collection so they can be driven without being concerned the
w
>> In a message dated 1/30/06 8:27:55 AM Pacific Standard
>> Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> If anyone can tell me what to look for to see if it's
TII could
>> you please let me know.
>>
>
>
> if it has a fuel pump block off plate in the front of the
engine
> (between the oil filter and wat
> Just wondering about the specifics of registering for the
All Chrysler
> Nationals at Carlisle, PA this coming July. Who all is
going, do we register
> as SDAC, or the Shelby Dodge Automobile club. ??If I
remember correctly, I
> believe it was the latter.
> Let me know...Thanks
> Gregg Freyland
>
Craig St Pierre and I were planning on attending, flying
out. I am not going to be able to make it, but Craig is
still going to be there as the official SDAC representative.
I have heard of a few folks from SDAC going, but we won't
really know exactly how many until it's underway.
Bar
Glad to hear it is out. I was contacted by an editor of the
magazine sometime back in the early fall, when they were
researching the article. He told me then it would be out in
Feb, but I had forgotten all about it.
Barry
>
> To all interested, there is a nice article on Shelby's
involvement w
f you can help
him, please contact me privately and I will give you his
contact info.
Thanks,
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It is #83 shipped to Dodge Center in Redwood City CA
on 1/7/87 on Shelby Automobiles invoice #02-944
Barry
> Hi All,
> Can anyone out there give me any info on this VIN?
> 1B3BZ64E9HD584069.
> I'm going to look at this car today. I don't know much
> about it. I just stumbled on it.
> Thanks,
>
> Ummm...let's get real people .
Jon, I agree with all that you said 100%.
Within the last week, Albert Pinheiro listed his 87 Charger
GLHS (and other cars) for sale on this list. His car is an
immaculate low mileage (25K miles) example. His asking
price is a little north of $9000 but he sa
(SDAC-13). The
east coast members didn't show up for that either, as it was
one of the worst attended of our conventions since I've had
the club.
> I will be switching back to the Rear wheel drive cars,
> that I have played with for the last 30 years.
> Thanks for listening to
Mike Fisher wrote,
> WOW! $65 for the SRT part and another $15 for the
> SDAC part... Seems that they could combine the cost
> somehow. I only live 2 hours from Topeka, but I dont
> think I can afford to pay that much, plus gas and motel.
> Its getting as bad as SCCA charging $35 for maybe 2
>
Tim Costello wrote:
> Gregg,
>
> I do not speak for the club but I know for me personally
> I love Carlisle. It's a great showI've been traveling
> with Barry, Craig and Joe to the show since for years.
> The people are friendly (East Coaster's are awesome)
> Butch, Holly, Ruthie and Joe etc
Mike Fisher wrote:
> The problem is that Friday would be the only day
> I could attend. Plus, I would like to try out the road
> course, at least once... I'd like to see what the ol' 85
> SC can do on it.
The only event being held by the SRT group on Friday is drag
racing (all day and into the n
while you predict doom and gloom for the SD/TD/FWD Mopar
enthusiasts, I see a bright future. Our average attendance
at our events has been climbing, and from the feedback I
get, folks that attend do have a great time. Some of it may
be in point of view, but I think we have a brigther future
because
> How can you find, or even know you have something draining
your battery.
>
> I have gone through 4 batteries in recent years, and even
though I do not
> run the car often, and disconnect it when in NON-OP mode,
I eventually loose
> that battery. I am about to purchase my next one but want
to find
Well Gregg, that may have been your "Final Carlisle Letter"
but since you brought up more stuff, I will reply.
Greg F wrote:
> Barry,
> Occasionally over the last several years I have seen,
> (or read) in this forum various topics that have
definitely
> stirred some interest amongst the collectiv
t
any time all week while we are at Heartland Park (or in the
evenings at the SDAC-16 host hotel).
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While I already replied privately to Dave, I want to say
publicly, THANK YOU Dave for the kind words, support, and
understanding. I am truly humbled by it all.
Barry
> To Greg F and the others following this thread,
>
> I read this thread with somewhat shock regarding
> the contents. I thin
> I know it was in the newsletter but I left it at work.
> Thanks.
It has not been posted publicly because the SRT folks were
scrambling for cheaper rooms, and I didn't want them to pick
up our rooms out from under our people.
I have sent this phone number to Steve privately, and would
appreciate
> I am looking for a new Daytona and I found one
>for sale. Says it is a 90 Shelby Daytona with a
>2.5 turbo
>
> I thought the Shelby's were 2.2
>
If I recall correctly, the 2.5 turbo was used in the
Shelby's but came with automatic. If it is a 5 speed car,
it should be a 2.2 VNT interco
have
never belonged to SDAC before.
We reserve the right to expand this offer or revoke it at
any time. We want to see how it works out first. ;))
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> ACTUALLY Barry (sir)..the 1990 Chrysler TC by Maserati
had a 2.2
> intercooled 16v engine not an 8v turbo II.
> Confused yet?
> ;)
>
> Rick D.
>
I knew the 16v motor was there, but wasn't the 2.2 T-II in
the TC but had the automatic behind it, or was that only in
89?
I thought there were
(with the automatic trans as you pointed out)
>>
>> For 1990 the only engine options were the
>> 16v (with 5 speed) and the 3.0L V6.
>>
>> Rick
At 07:01 PM 8/1/2006 -0400, Barry Goodall wrote:
> > ACTUALLY Barry (sir)..the 1990 Chrysler TC by
Ma
t;
> Rob Walsh
>
> 86 GLHS 76
> 87 GLHS 306
> 89 CSX 187
> 86 military Reliant turbo wagon
> 84 DC shelby Rampage
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:28:34 -0400
> From: "Barry Goodall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: SD> Special offer for new SDAC membe
SDAC-16 / SRT Nats pics are on the SDAC website.
http://www.sdac.org
The Car Show pics have comments identifying the cars. There
are also two other galleries there, one for the drag day
pics, and another with general pics from the event, many
showing some of the interesting cars that were there.
ding these exciting videos.
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I posted about an hour ago on td.com to see if the pumper
caps are still available. If they are, mark them sold (all
5).
Barry
> Pumpers Caps;
> 1. Dodge, 10.00 each, 5 total.
>
> Rodney
>
>
> The Rebirth of MUTT
> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail
Beta.
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Great news Bill!! Thanks so much for sticking with it.
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If this has to do with the car that is currently for sale on
ebay, that VIN and dash plaque number do not match. The
plaque says 563 and the VIN is for 045. If you are the guy
that asked me on td.com, check your PM's for full details.
Folks do not like to post up VIN's on a public list and the
S
> Hey everyone. I have not been a part of this list for
about 5 years now. My former ID was Shelby340. I have
Shelby Dakota # 883, Red. It had a 340 in it. I was
wondering if the Great Lakes chapter of the SDAC is still
existent. I am interested in hitting a couple events this
summer and want
Every year the Chrysler Employee Motorsports Association
(CEMA) holds a car show. This is one of the nicest local
car shows we have. They get about 300 cars every year and
it is held at the Walter P. Chrysler Museum in Auburn Hills
Michigan. It is on Saturday June 9 from 9am till 3pm.
Details an
discounted rate. The rooms in our block
will be set aside for our reservations until May 22, 2007
when the rest of the rooms that have not been reserved will
be released to the public, so make your reservations before
then.
Barry Goodall
Shelby Dodge Auto Club
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it (below).
See you there!!
Barry Goodall
Shelby Dodge Auto Club
SDAC-17 will be held in the New Stanton PA area
which is just east of Pittsburgh. Here is the info we
have available at this time.
Schedule
Saturday June 23 - Registration and Check-In at the host
hotel.
Sunday June 24 - SDAC-17 C
I just checked the CEMA website and there are 5 cars
registered as representing SDAC. Possibly some folks didn't
fill in the club affiliation line as I think there will be
more of us there than that.
I do know that at least Will, Craig, Tim, Joe, Tom B, and
myself will be there as locals. A
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