Re: CS>Particle size measurement

2011-11-14 Thread Pj Converse
unsubscribe From: Ole Alstrup <alst...@yahoo.com> To: Colloidal Silver List <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:41:48 PM Subject: CS>Particle size measurement Can someone please help me out on this one, since I am a neophyt

Re: CS>Particle size measurement

2011-11-14 Thread Ode Coyote
When you see a particle size that size, it is not something that was ever in the water being tested...entirely BOGUS. That's the diameter of an oxidized Ion made when the CS sample was dried in order to prepare it for TEM scanning. It was never a "particle" in-the-water. Micron is short fo

Re: CS>Particle size measurement

2011-11-13 Thread David AuBuchon
Micrometer and micron are the same thing. David On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Ole Alstrup wrote: > Can someone please help me out on this one, since I am a neophyte when it > comes to particle size measurement. > > A particle the size of 0.8 nanometers is 0.0008 microns - but how many > mic

CS>Particle size measurement

2011-11-13 Thread Ole Alstrup
Can someone please help me out on this one, since I am a neophyte when it comes to particle size measurement. A particle the size of 0.8 nanometers is 0.0008 microns - but how many micrometers is that? Thanks.

FW: CS>Particle size makes all the difference - Argyria Part 2

2009-02-11 Thread Norton, Steve
6) Silver is accumulated over the lifetime in the tissues. But note the part below that states "High concentrations of silver in the tissues, however, occurs only after the careless administration of silver-containing medicinals." This is referring to SILVER SALTS and not colloidal silvers. Howev

FW: CS>Particle size makes all the difference - Argyria Part 1

2009-02-11 Thread Norton, Steve
This will be in several posts due to the length. Regarding Argyria. You have a concern about silver particle size increasing the risk of Argyria. From what I have been able to determine, Argyria is caused by silver salts and not elemental silver. The following excerpts are from Appendix 9 of "S

RE: CS>Particle size makes all the difference - particle absorbtion

2009-02-11 Thread Norton, Steve
ruary 10, 2009 10:03 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Particle size makes all the difference I have to truly believe that to large of particle size is what cause's the most problems in making CS. As in undesirable materials binding with the CS to make proteins.Purity of substance is th

Re: CS>Particle size makes all the difference

2009-02-10 Thread Clayton Family
Interesting post. Why do you think you might have proteins in your silver water? if you are making it according to the guidelines, there should only be very pure water and silver to start with, and a current control on the power source. That ought to make ionic silver, which is the smallest si

CS>Particle size makes all the difference

2009-02-10 Thread john_smith_2u
I have to truly believe that to large of particle size is what cause's the most problems in making CS. As in undesirable materials binding with the CS to make proteins.Purity of substance is the issue! Also know as quality control.I believe consuming large amounts of 10pmm with the smallest par

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-08 Thread Dee
But it works Marshall! Mind you, these are PET 1 bottles which I thought was ok. Ode says it has probably 'used up' whatever is in the plastic, which then makes it ok to use again. dee Marshall Dudley wrote: I would not use PET it has plasticizers in it, which diffuse out over time. I only

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dee wrote: Actually I would beg to differ about the plastic Marshall, as I have had negative experiences with it. I still use it, but have to 'season' the bottles first i.e. put in either distilled water or made CS and leave it for a few days. If it is made CS, it will go yellow and then I t

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-07 Thread Steven Foss
Hi Bob Larson, Hi, Liver and the kidneys both are involved in the excretion of silver.  I  suggest http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/AltmanStudy.PDF on Silver excretion from the body. Silver Dust ranges from very large particles to microscopic. In Scandinavia, Silver Reclaimation workers

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-06 Thread Dee
Actually I would beg to differ about the plastic Marshall, as I have had negative experiences with it. I still use it, but have to 'season' the bottles first i.e. put in either distilled water or made CS and leave it for a few days. If it is made CS, it will go yellow and then I tip it away a

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-06 Thread bob Larson
Re: CS>Particle size - Comments pleaseyeah, that's the kind of thing where you can end up with big problems like convulsive seizures and organ damage. the scariest stuff that i found in gov't websites re silver dangers always turns out to be from something like industrial exposure sit

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-06 Thread Ode Coyote
08:30:10 2008 Subject: RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please 90% of an **inhaled** dose of finely divided silver **dust** was excreted by dogs in 30 days though the feces. [Phalen and Morrow 1973] The only way that silver can do that, is though the blood stream. Ode -- The Silver L

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
com> /*Subject:*/ RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please The diameter of a silver ion is around 0.000252 microns. At least 80% of even a yellow brew is ions. Ode At 02:54 PM 9/4/2008 -0500, you wrote: > >Ok, I am responding to my own query. If I have something wrong, l

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: 90% of an **inhaled** dose of finely divided silver **dust** was excreted by dogs in 30 days though the feces. [Phalen and Morrow 1973] The only way that silver can do that, is though the blood stream. Ode That is correct. When there is a foreign particle in the lungs,

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Norton, Steve
Inhaling silver dust? Now that scares me. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Sep 05 08:30:10 2008 Subject: RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please 90% of an **inhaled** dose of finely divided silver **dust** was excreted by dogs in 30 d

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Norton, Steve
Ode, Thanks to you and Marshall for your responses. My own experiences told me something was wrong with the analysis and I was missing something. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Sep 05 07:47:03 2008 Subject: RE: CS>Particle s

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread B Magnatta
From: Ode Coyote Date: 9/5/2008 12:18:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please The diameter of a silver ion is around 0.000252 microns. At least 80% of even a yellow brew is ions. Ode At 02:54 PM 9/4/2008 -0500, you wrote: > >Ok, I am

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Ode Coyote
so mean that little CS is absorbed sublingually. > > > Comments? Ideas? > > - Steve N > > -Original Message- > From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:06 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Particle s

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Ode Coyote
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Particle size Does anyone know what the maximum size particle is that can be absorbed into the body either sublingually or through the stomach and intestines? - Steve N No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Ve

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Marshall Dudley
This would also mean that little CS is absorbed sublingually. Comments? Ideas? - Steve N -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [_mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com_] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Particle size Does anyone know what the

Re: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-05 Thread Dee
And in my case it gets even *more* complicated because when I got yellow CS it wasn't the CS or the DW which caused this, but the actual plastic bottles I put it in. So the particle size would be bigger, but it wouldn't have been silver that made it so. Would it? dee Norton, Steve wrote:

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-04 Thread Norton, Steve
ilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please Hi; this is a little too mechanistic to account for the body's ability to break down and recombine not only proteins sugars and fats but also mineral constituents of what we ingest. Nevertheless, it's been stated h

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-04 Thread Malcolm
crease or decrease absorption. > * This would also mean that little CS is absorbed sublingually. > > > Comments? Ideas? > > - Steve N > > -Original Message- > From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:06 AM

RE: CS>Particle size - Comments please

2008-09-04 Thread Norton, Steve
eve N -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Particle size Does anyone know what the maximum size particle is that can be absorbed into the body either sublingually or through the

CS>Particle size

2008-09-04 Thread Norton, Steve
Does anyone know what the maximum size particle is that can be absorbed into the body either sublingually or through the stomach and intestines? - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.o

CS>Particle Size, Why the size exists ?

2008-09-01 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Chuck, >>At 06:48 PM 9/1/2008, you wrote: Not to push you over the edge, Neville, but you have to adjust your thinking a bit. It is indeed the "current" that determines your result, not the voltage. I thought you meant particle, not sure what "Results" mean ? Sounds like a complex, c

Re: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-14 Thread Raine
Sure enough, Mike. I've answered him on the OT list, hopefully in a kindly way. -Raine M. G. Devour wrote: Well, Raine, I hope you'll be kindly enough to meet him... half way or wherever you think he is! Ya gotta admit not everyone is going to feel the same way about your pets as you do.

RE: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-13 Thread M. G. Devour
> Dear Raine The Rat Momma, > > As a quid pro quo for my sensitivity to your rats, how about having your > rats telepathically communicate with my rats to have them stop invading > my home and destroying my stuff and attacking my health with their toxic > excretions? > > I will never again insult

Re: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-13 Thread Albert Peirce
reply on the OT list. Not fond of rats, Jim -Original Message- From: Raine [mailto:rainelov...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 1:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with a

RE: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Holmes
- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush Dear Raine The Rat Momma, I am sure that experience your rats are sensitive, lovi

RE: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Holmes
[mailto:rainelov...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 1:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush Ummm yes, people DO love their rats. Very much. Some of these rat lovers are members of this list, i

Re: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-13 Thread Raine
Ummm yes, people *DO* love their rats. Very much. Some of these rat lovers are members of this list, in fact. This rat lover, in particular, would appreciate a bit more sensitivity when speaking to a diverse group such as this one. -Raine, rat momma Jim Holmes wrote: People must really lo

RE: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-12 Thread Jim Holmes
riginal Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush I recently ran across a site on nebulizing pet rats that states you can&#

RE: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-12 Thread Jim Holmes
Hi Sol, Thank you. I will visit the rat people site. Jim -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air br

CS>particle size in nebulizing, was Re: CS>CS pneumonia protocol with air brush

2005-05-12 Thread sol
I recently ran across a site on nebulizing pet rats that states you can't just use any old nebulizer for rats, they need a small particle size for nebbing to be effective. Wasn't in regard to nebbing CS, but regular abx nebulizer formulas. Still, if the smallest possible particle size is desirea

Re: CS>CS particle size

2003-10-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
Gaston wrote: > To anyone that wishes to comment pls. > > Here is a comment taken from the following web site: > http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm > > "It's In The Water > ... Another variable that influences particle size is t

Re: CS>CS particle size

2003-10-13 Thread Marshall Dudley
Vince Richter wrote: > Hi Mike, > > What about constant current? Is higher temperatures advantageous in > some way without the increased particle size? I use HVAC NST 15,000 > volts limited to 30 mA cone method. It is nice to take only 8 hours to > make 2 gallons if I don't cool it instead of 1

Re: CS>Re: CS particle size

2003-10-12 Thread Gaston
Ode, I get the point now. Thank you for the clarification. I'll also keep your info for reference. Gaston -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver

Re: CS>Re: CS particle size

2003-10-12 Thread Ode Coyote
At 02:05 PM 10/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Ode Coyote. , Mike Monett. > >Thank you for all the useful info that you have provided. > >I do understand that it will cause agglomeration if we do heat the water over 110 >degrees. I use a very low constant current. Therefore, I have no difficulty in gett

RE: CS>CS particle size

2003-10-11 Thread Vince Richter
Hi Mike, What about constant current? Is higher temperatures advantageous in some way without the increased particle size? I use HVAC NST 15,000 volts limited to 30 mA cone method. It is nice to take only 8 hours to make 2 gallons if I don't cool it instead of 12 to 16hrs with a fan blowing o

CS>Re: CS particle size

2003-10-11 Thread Gaston
Ode Coyote. , Mike Monett. Thank you for all the useful info that you have provided. I do understand that it will cause agglomeration if we do heat the water over 110 degrees. I use a very low constant current. Therefore, I have no difficulty in getting clear CS. However, what I understand in

Re: CS>CS particle size

2003-10-11 Thread Ode Coyote
In reality based on experience, the slower the reaction, the smaller the particles right down to virtually no "particles" at all. [ionic silver] You can however have a slower reaction along with faster production by using larger electrodes. Heating the water increases initial conductivity which i

Re: CS>CS particle size

2003-10-11 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63380.html CS>CS particle size From: Gaston Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 06:47:41 > To anyone that wishes to comment pls. > Here is a comment taken from the following web site: > http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm

CS>CS particle size

2003-10-11 Thread Gaston
To anyone that wishes to comment pls. Here is a comment taken from the following web site: http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm "It's In The Water ... Another variable that influences particle size is the water temperature. The w

Re: CS>particle size distribution analyser

2002-09-03 Thread SilverList
> > The PL-PSDA particle size distribution analyser is an integrated, > > > > automated system for the rapid determination of particle size distribution > > > > of colloidal dispersions...in ten minutes > > > http://www.polymerlabs.com/partsize/ > jr Sounds good, but it only measures down to 5 nm.

RE: CS>particle size distribution analyser

2002-09-03 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
That looks hot. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: jrowl...@nctimes.net [mailto:jrowl...@nctimes.net] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>particle size distribution analyser Dear Santa, > The PL-PSDA particle size distri

CS>particle size distribution analyser

2002-09-02 Thread jrowland
Dear Santa, > The PL-PSDA particle size distribution analyser is an integrated, > > automated system for the rapid determination of particle size distribution > > of colloidal dispersions...in ten minutes > http://www.polymerlabs.com/partsize/ jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for disc

RE: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
mistake. Regards Ivan > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 2:38 a.m. > To: *Silver-List* > Subject: Re: CS>Particle size vs. color > > > Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > Hi Russ, > > > >

RE: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
. > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Particle size vs. color > > > Ivan wrote: > > > No. The Tyndall Effect is only manifest when the particle is much > > smaller than the wavelength of light. For instance, gold > colloids look > > red when the p

Re: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-24 Thread Frank Key
Marshall wrote: > > Although you are correct that his statement is incorrect, he is not > talking about the tyndall, which is scattering of light, but rather the > color, which is the complement of the absorption spectrum of the > particles. They are independent of each other, except both do vary

RE: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-24 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
- From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Particle size vs. color Ivan wrote: > No. The Tyndall Effect is only manifest when the particle is much > smaller than the wavelength of light. For insta

Re: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
Frank Key wrote: > Ivan wrote: > > The color of a colloid is not solely determined by particle size. It is also > influenced by the particle dispersion which is effected by zetapotential. A > small ionic change can change the zetapotential and make a sol consisting of > the same sized particles to

Re: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-24 Thread Frank Key
Ivan wrote: > No. The Tyndall Effect is only manifest when the particle is much > smaller than the wavelength of light. For instance, gold colloids look > red when the particles are about 13nm in diameter. > > Regards > Ivan. That statement is not true. TE intensity of reflected light is maximum

Re: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-24 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ivan Anderson wrote: > Hi Russ, > > > According to my understanding of the Tyndall effect, I > > infer that this color > > indicates that the diameter these particles of CS (+ > > impurities) corresponds > > to the wavelength of red light, ~700 nm, whereas yellow CS > > particles would > > be arou

RE: CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-24 Thread Ivan Anderson
-Original Message- > From: Russ Rosser [mailto:russros...@rovin.net] > Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2002 7:32 a.m. > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Particle size vs. color > > > Hello, list-- > > A small CS batch turned pale PINK, ostensibly because of contai

CS>Particle size vs. color

2002-07-13 Thread Russ Rosser
Hello, list-- A small CS batch turned pale PINK, ostensibly because of container contamination (perhaps silver agglomerates upon suspended particles, as raindrops condense upon airborne dust particles). According to my understanding of the Tyndall effect, I infer that this color indicates that th

Re: CS>Particle Size Question

2002-06-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
y, June 17, 2002 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Particle Size Question > > > "General Chemistry", ninth edition, Holtzclaw, Robinson and Odom, > published by > > D.C. Health and Company 1991, lists silver has having a diameter of 1.44 > > angstroms and a silver ion as

Re: CS>Particle Size Question

2002-06-17 Thread Frank Key
1.44 A is the atomic radius, the diameter is twice the radius. frank key - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: CS>Particle Size Question > "General Chemistry", ninth edition, Holtzclaw, Robinson an

Re: CS>Particle Size Question

2002-06-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
ysis process are much larger, being in > the 10 to 90 nm range. Typically, 90% of the silver contributed by the > electrodes winds up as ionic silver and 10% is particles. > > frank key > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:42 PM

RE: CS>Particle Size Question

2002-06-17 Thread John Reeder
Thanks Frank, good information and now filed away for future reference.\ John -Original Message- From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Particle Size Question Silver particles don't break off.

Re: CS>Particle Size Question

2002-06-17 Thread Frank Key
ted by the electrodes winds up as ionic silver and 10% is particles. frank key - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: CS>Particle Size Question > > Can anyone verify the following: > > > > > When applying current to silver

CS>Particle Size Question

2002-06-17 Thread jrowland
> Can anyone verify the following: > > > When applying current to silver in solution, metallic silver will always > > > > break off at the same size, 1.26 angstroms (.1 microns). > > > > This particle is so small that the next stop on the road to smallness is > > > > the atom itself. > > > http

CS>Particle size at 30 volts

2001-11-22 Thread jrowland
The following quoted from a commercial site. Can anyone vouch for 30 volts as "best", would AC or DC have an advantage and does the resultant particle size seem reasonable? "...The very best voltage for the reaction is 30 volts, because the electrodes run the cleanest at this voltage...Using this

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-11-16 Thread boberger
Hi Jr. According to the T.E. M.'s that Stephen Quintro ran on my HVAC ARC CS the particle size had a dual distribution of 1-2 nm and 6-8 nm. Now Franks' Zetasizer gives different results but Frank would never tell me how he calibrated the "X" axis of his plots. The T.E. if there is one can olny b

CS>Particle size

2001-11-15 Thread jrowland
Which production method produces the smallest silver particle size and what might that size be? A PBS special (NOVA, transcript #2815) two nights ago, "Bioterror", casually mentioned that it was the U.S. strain of weaponized anthrax (confirmed by DNA analysis) that's being found in the mail, with

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-10-12 Thread boberger
Terry, When I purchased my spectrophotometer I also had to buy a standard AgNO3 that had 1000 ug/ml in 5% HNO3, or 1000ppm. That was diluted to 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60 ug/ml of ppm's to calibate the tester. The test is the industry standard to measure the amount of silver in the waste water of

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-10-12 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 10/11/2001 4:36:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes: > In the field of ionic silver, what kinds of ppm are > available? And is it appropriate to designate ionic > silver in ppm terms? Parts-per-million of what? Ions? > How is this measured? What is the maximum

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-10-11 Thread boberger
Terry, Any time you want to send me about half an ounce of your 500 ppm CS I will test it FREE that is FREE. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eski

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-10-11 Thread wolfcreek1
> If nothing else, it would mean you could dilute it and use it. Terry ~ I see 500 ppm CS at the health food store. There are a couple different brands, but they do not carry anything less than 500 ppm. I have been using HHA 500 ppm CS and it is goldish colored. It is said to be pharmaceutical

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-10-11 Thread boberger
Terry, Please remember that "eye R an elrctic enganear" and chemistry is not my main field, for what it is worth I have tested 3 commercial CS's rated at 500 ppm, and the ionic portion measured any where from 45 to 105 ppm. They all had a strong Tyndall so there was also some particles in them. As

Re: CS>Particle size

2001-10-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Terry Chamberlin wrote: > Marshall said: > "Our testing indicates that once you get to about 20 > ppm, the particles get larger instead of more > numerous." > > Terry responds: > I've heard this before. But it seems that if that were > true, it would be impossible to make 500 ppm CS that > was cle

CS>Particle size

2001-10-11 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Marshall said: "Our testing indicates that once you get to about 20 ppm, the particles get larger instead of more numerous." Terry responds: I've heard this before. But it seems that if that were true, it would be impossible to make 500 ppm CS that was clear. I am given to understand that ppm is r

CS Particle Size and the HVAC Arc Process

2001-09-19 Thread ROGALTMAN
C process is the > best "layman's" method to make colloidal gold but is unsatisfactory for > silver as it produces very large particles] > Bill: I believe Ole Bob and I have found that the CS particle size as well as production rate obtained from the HVAC Arc Process can be

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-07 Thread CKing001
If it does, it's rancid. DON'T eat rancid oils Flax SEED doesn't go rancid in storage. I grind it in a coffee grinder when I use it, a couple tablespoons at a time. Chuck Some people live life in the fast lane. I live in oncoming traffic

RE: CS>Why Study Ionic "CS" and CS Particle Size?

2001-08-05 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Market it as "Silvalung". James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Why Study Ionic "CS" and CS Particle Size? I don't know.

RE: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Ivan Anderson
2 are to be preferred. By the way, the above reaction will proceed quite readily in sunlight. Ivan. > -Original Message- > From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] > Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2001 04:00 > To: *Silver-List* > Subject: Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size &

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Frank Key
Ivan wrote: > I think you will find that UV light will not reduce H2O2 at all, but rather > oxidise it further to the highly reactive OH- radical. What we have found is that practice confirms theory: H2O2 + UV -> H2O + O2 Ultraviolet light reduces H2O2 to water (H2O) and free oxygen O2. To pr

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Ode Coyote
In an outdoor out fitter store I found a water purification kit with two substances. Turned out that swimming pool chlorine was one and the "neutralizer" [to neutralize the chlorine and get rid of the pool water flavor] was hydrogen peroxide. Ken At 07:06 AM 8/4/01 EDT, you wrote: In a m

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Ode Coyote
I did find it curious that water with an added oxygen atom would have any flavor at all. I assumed the flavor had something to do with the other stuff in the water [silver] and stuff getting unstuck that was already in my mouth. Stabilizer flavor makes sense. I'll have a UV light installed in a m

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Ode Coyote
> > Gee, excessive amounts of h2o2 makes anything taste nasty, does it not, >even water? ### Yup, sure does. I can't taste two teaspoons in a liter , so, I don't believe that to be an excessive amount and it will clear up large particle pale violet CS over night. The H2O2 might have other bene

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Ode Coyote
I am controlling current by dropping the voltage as conductivity increases with a transistorized circuit, so the current stays absolutely constant. [Not just current limiting as with a resistive element] Constant current 'should' result in constant particle size but doesn't always due to agglome

RE: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Ivan Anderson
Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:06 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 > is Added > > > Roger wrote: > > > > Frank: So for a given CS product, using H2O2 to oxidize > particulate silver, > > and the

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread Frank Key
Roger wrote: > Frank: So for a given CS product, using H2O2 to oxidize particulate silver, > and then using UV light to reduce any remaining H2O2 should be a good way to > make 100% ionic "CS"? If that's true, how does one know that there has been > sufficient UV exposure to remove any residua

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-04 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 8/3/2001 7:14:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fr...@strsoft.com writes: > The industrial grade H2O2 apparently has chemicals added to stabilize the > H2O2 and they taste bad. Food grade has no such stabilizers added, so it > should all be converted to water under UV. Once conve

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Frank Key
Wayne wrote: > > I'm not talking about taking h202. It's about its effect on CS and how > >excessive amounts of peroxide makes CS taste nasty. > >Gee, excessive amounts of h2o2 makes anything taste nasty, does it not, > even water? Assuming one is using "Food Grade", not industrial grade,

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Ken, At 01:52 PM 08/03/2001 -0700, you wrote: I'm not talking about taking h202. It's about its effect on CS and how excessive amounts of peroxide makes CS taste nasty. Gee, excessive amounts of h2o2 makes anything taste nasty, does it not, even water? I am still trying to figur

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 8/3/2001 2:44:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, coy...@alltel.net writes: > Particle size increases with current draw which is only related to > conductivity in a non current controlled generator. I was using a current > controlled generator at 1.9ma with constant stir. If I use CS

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 isAdded

2001-08-03 Thread Robert L. Berger
Ken; The moral is LEAVE THE H2O2 ALONE !! "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word su

Re: CS>Why Study Ionic "CS" and CS Particle Size?

2001-08-03 Thread Joanne
winter as our water level is really low out here this year. Joanne - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>Why Study Ionic "CS" and CS Particle Size? I certainly acknowledge

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Ode Coyote
/3/01 EDT, you wrote: >>>> In a message dated 8/3/2001 10:57:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, coy...@alltel.net writes: Subj:Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is Added Date:8/3/2001 10:57:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time From:coy...@alltel.net (Od

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution WhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Ode Coyote
OK sure, but why did the peroxide clean the silver oxides off at first and then become black again. Ken At 08:11 AM 8/3/01 -0700, you wrote: > >I once tried cleaning blackened electrodes in H2O2. They cleaned up very fast but blackened again when left in the peroxide. >Ode Coyote wrote: > > >H2O2

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & DistributionWhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Ode Coyote
I'm not talking about taking h202. It's about its effect on CS and how excessive amounts of peroxide makes CS taste nasty. Ken At 07:53 AM 8/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >Perhaps more H2O2 will make the CS go totally ionic with no TE..but that >stuff is totally worthless to consume as it makes one f

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
:41:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > coy...@alltel.net writes: > > > >> Subj:Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When >> H2O2 is >> Added >> Date:8/3/2001 9:41:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time >> From:coy...@alltel.net (Ode Coyote) >&

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution WhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread ROGALTMAN
ell so that I still ended up with a bunch of > smaller ones > which gave a TE with no larger ones. > > Marshall > Marshall: As I said earlier, the CS particle size you end up with will be a function of the H2O2: total CS particle ratio. I don't believe this interaction is l

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread ROGALTMAN
In a message dated 8/3/2001 10:57:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, coy...@alltel.net writes: > Subj:Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution When H2O2 is > Added > Date:8/3/2001 10:57:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:coy...@alltel.net (Ode Coyote) > Reply-

Re: CS>Why Study Ionic "CS" and CS Particle Size?

2001-08-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
within a range might > actually > provide some greater benefit. I dunno. > > Ken: As I mentioned in an earlier post, it should be quite easy to > determine > if ionic CS has germicidal activity in the body. I think the > implications of > hav

Re: CS>What Happens to CS Particle Size & Distribution WhenH2O2 is Added

2001-08-03 Thread Ted Windsor
I once tried cleaning blackened electrodes in H2O2. They cleaned up very fast but blackened again when left in the peroxide. Ode Coyote wrote: H2O2 causes oxidation, this is why they became black again. Blessings Ted -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

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