The annual 2m discussion time on RCSE. Lots of good TD pilots, just can't
afford to buy the molded and composite gliders flown by the 'extra good'
glider pilots. I know at least that is the case in Australia. We have a
very successful 2m TD comp series here, which is well attended and a lot of
f
Manfred has done his airshow act here in Medford, Oregon several times. I
talked with him for about half an hour and determined he is certifiable.
Usually the end of his beautiful aerobatic routine is topped off with an
inverted ribbon cut about 25 feet off the ground and then he pulls the nose
up
Those of you attending beware :-)
Gordy
Vegas..with my wife this weekend
Jim,
How did you shrink the Icon?
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:22:33 -0600, James V. Bacus
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> Hey, you guys wanna see a cool 2m?
>
> Here's a picture of it amongst normal sized models...
> http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg
>
> Fully molded, custom painted
Aloha Clarence and mahalo for your views on the present diatribe of the two
meter class and contests. I used to have a fun time flying here on the
island of Maui at the various get-togethers the local glider club had each
month in which the club called "fun fly's". Two meter planes, especially
th
In reading the posts concerning 2M, Nats and such, a few comments concerning
the planning philosophy for 2005 are in order. Yes, Tom Kallevang and I
talked about some possible changes, but with the change of start date that
AMA Management decide upon, we decided to make the minimum change we could
I just used the wing tips and left out the center panel... 8-)
At 09:19 PM 2/11/2005, Steve Schneider wrote:
Jim,
How did you shrink the Icon?
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV
ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.
Hi Daryl
Would 1.9meter and a T-tail be better.!!!
Peter"
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Ok, OK I give. I was just mucking around.
Here come the disclaimers:
I don't personally enjoy flying 2M. But whatever
somebody enjoys flying is great! Please have at it -
fly it. I started with a SIG 2M Riser myself.
NATS - I fly 2M for one reason. Cuz it's there. I fly
2M once a year - in
I had you totally in mind when I had this painted.
When you look down the flightline and easily notice me in your group,
you'll be able to chuckle and think "landing" instead of "time". 8-)
At 08:49 PM 2/11/2005, you wrote:
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;-)
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Hi all
Would anyone be interested in having a Zagi race at lunch, Saturday, April 2
at the Fresno classic? If there is interest I could contact the CD to find
out if it would be ok.
I made a preliminary contact with Zagi and they said that they might donate
something for the prize.
This would
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;-)
D
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Hey, you guys wanna see a cool 2m?
Here's a picture of it amongst normal sized models...
http://www.jimbacus.net/blog/2004/images/miniicon.jpg
Fully molded, custom painted, completely JR digital, definitely the most
BLING BLING 2m at Nats in 2005. 8-)
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago
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As I read the various post's about contests and
two meter class. I sit and scratch My head and wonder why did some of you
get into this hobby. With all the bitching being done here about two meter
class it would make someone feel that you only care about what you
fly.
And You wonder why it
The Space Shuttle has a better glide ratio.
They remind me more of a skydiver controlling the direction of his freefall.
These gliding ants are very cool, though it would appear that their
glide ratio is pretty bad.
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On 2/11/05 17:05 John Derstine wrote:
> Jet assisted towplane
>
> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327913
I love it. Put a turbine on a Pegasus and then "experiment" with crap
props?? Zingers?? Wow.
Have they tried using real props? Mejzlik? Menz? Airmodels?? Biela??
~
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http://www.jetsoveruae.com/video/Viper_crash.wmv
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Well hell no...
To make it even more fun the right plane on hand helps. The weapon of
choice has to be a Lawicki 2meter Duck... out floats, out launch, out
land all (except for Darrel's.. dam what ever he flies).
Peter"
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At 09:20 AM 2/11/2005, Joe Wurts wrote:
There are two aspects to why people go to events. One is the serious side,
the competition. The other is the social side, the fun and cameraderie. If
the focus is on the competition, it seems that the event declines in
participation. If the focus is on th
Out of the woodwork again.
I was 2M CD last year and signed up for the job again this year (unless
someone else wants it) because I don't fly 2M any longer and have given away
or sold my 2M ships. This gives me an excuse to come to the NAT's early and
BS with the fellow flyers and get into the N
I've run into a number of excellent condition, used gas engines from 3 to
4.2 ci's. I've got a total of 7 engines. There are 2 Webra Bullies, and
the rest are mainly A&M Sachs and most have C&H ignition, which are worth
$125 by themselves, making engine cost as low as $175 each. They all put
out
Hey I don't give a rats patoot if you guys want to fly 2 meter or run loose in
the street naked if that makes you feel better. Just don't force me to join in.
The only gripe I've got is that the LSF for some inane reason (known only to
God and few mortals) sticks 2 meter in the middle of what is
We still fly 2-Meter here in Dayton, prior to our unlimited club
contests... Mostly we do it to humor Jerry; he just loves that 2M Super
V. Really, it's scary.
Is it 5 yet?
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I'm glad Les and Rick are my buddies!!!
2M Rules Open class is for lame ducks!
Edgar
"The Soaring Jukie"
P.S. Just having fun while at work... you know... the
boring thing I do to kill time until the weekend :-)
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>I'm looking forward to seeing all these strong online 2m advocates at the
Nats 2m contest this year.<
I'll step up out of lurker mode. ;)
With a little success building this spring, my son and I will fly the Nats
2-meter class. Looking forward to it. I hope nothing makes 2-meter go away.
2M is wh
I'm looking forward to seeing all these strong online 2m advocates at the
Nats 2m contest this year.
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
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Particularly well said Mr. Grammer!!!
Rick
At 10:57 AM 2/11/2005, Les Grammer wrote:
Oh, ow! ow! ow! ow! ow??!!!
I've sat here on the sidelines for what, 4 years now, watching sporadic
attacks on 2-meter. "Just grin and bear it" has been my mantra.
But now, our national champ comes out and s
Anybody who flies 2-meter is a friend of mine! Anyone who dislikes 2m I
just don't get.
Thanks
Rick
At 11:35 AM 2/11/2005, Flying High wrote:
2M pilots do need more friends!
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Intolerance isn't very attractive.
By choice, I prefer to fly larger planes. But sometimes circumstances
make it inconvenient to drag a large plane along, so it's nice to have a
smaller plane as well. I have a selection of planes with spans from 148"
down to 70", and when I'm flying I alway
I like to fly 2 meter planes. They are indeed a bit less efficient, but they
have a much better roll rate. The bottom line is that they are FUN TO FLY, just
like my Icon, and my Ava, and my Photon, and my Tensor.
I fly for FUN and 2 meters are FUN. You can do stupid tricks with them that an
un
Before we trash 2M entirely, Les made some good points.
- Newbies almost always show up with a 2M,
- It's a neat little compact size for fun flying and low level work,
- It doesn't take nearly as much paraphernalia at the field to have a good
time,
- A used HLG/DLG fits the 2M class - try
. Considering
ever-shrinking fields and reduced access to the great wide open spaces of
our
youth, if anything, the Big Plane Craze is probably the one that will
lapse as
impractical,
With the advances in radio sizes, batteries and e-power, you can have
an electric powered glider for the same wei
I can remember a time when 2 meter was the vast majority, and open was a
'freak' class for a few iconoclasts. All my conventional gliders were/are in
the
2m size range. To me they are nearly the optimum of size and flyability versus
compact transportability, all on a budget within the grasp of
If a wing is built to some span dimension in the flat, then buy the time
dihedral is dialed in, the projected span is something less. It follows
then, that the projected area of a finished wing with dihedral is less than
in the flat. The numbers quoted for kits & plans usually reflect the fla
NIB, just not scale enough for me. First $750 takes...
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New in box Fazer for sale...Yellow/Red. $1150 shipped.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303255
Thanks,
Lenny Keer
RMSA, Colorado
I can't believe what I'm reading! :)
First one of the 'great ones' suggests that 2m is an event that is something
less than ideal. Then another great one suggests that soaring should be fun.
A third proposes that every round be a 10 minute task. Is it the water, or
just GPS? The next thing you k
I need some assistance
from a pilot in Vancouver WA.
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Selling a RTF AeroMod MiraJ built by Brian Courtice.
Never crashed, like new condition. 2 Hitec hs-85mg aileron servos, 2
hs-81 elevator servos, 1 hs-225 flap servo included.
This plane retails for $545 (if you can get one), and a kit will take
you 15+ VERY frustrating hours to build. The servo
Hi Ed need those big red stabs will take measurements this weekend.
Thanks,
Guy Russo
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On Thursday 10 February 2005 17.10, you wrote:
> >When the Russians stole the general arrangement plans
>
> of the Concorde
>
> A more charitable interpretation of this is that both the Russian and the
> English/French teams had similar problems to solve with similar tools so
> they came up wi
I would not agree with that until one fundamental element was changed.
The Landing Zone. While in/out zones make for quick and easy scoring, they
add a significant luck factor to the overall outcome of the event. I know,
I have won Visalia, and the Nats. And have come away with the thought,
"
Hey there Marta. How goes the Blaster flying. I have the same set up you
have. Only I am using the DS4.7's and the JR NES-241's in the fuse.
Looks Like I'll be there on the 10oz side. What kind of receiver did
you use?
James :cool:
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Thanks guys, very interesting. My wife is an environmental biologist and
she thought this was so neat I might even get the OK for a new plane!
- d
WMSS (formerly the GVRC) has had a Two Meter Championships for over 25
years. This Summer it is on August 20-21 near Grand Rapids Michigan. It
has always been a MON on Man event. It inspired the Nats MOM format. Just
ask Jim Thomas or Mike Stump.
By the way Jim Thomas email me as I lost you
Hi list,
does anybody know where I can quickly get a Hatch Latch like hobby-lobby's
part # HLRE001 http://www.hobby-lobby.com/hatchlatch.htm
I need it soon and don't know if they could ship it quickly enough to
California.
Thanks,
Frank
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I agree. 2m suck. So I am offering my services to any of you out there that
feel the same way. I will be more than happy to purchase your used organic 2m
off of you and dispose of it properly. You shouldn't have to go through the
pain of owning one anylonger. This can be a discrete transaction
Edgar,
You just gave me an idea for flying 2 meter. I have a number of hand launch
planes just sitting around, including my original Photon. It's good looking
enough to qualify. Let's see, a little tape on tow hook, a baby sized skeg
and voila, I've got an 11 ounce (undersized) 2 meter.
JE
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Les and Craig get my vote on 2M flying. THEY MAKE YOU A
BETTER TD PILOT for the bigger stuff!!! Too bad you don't
see many contest with 2M class these days, just like the
standard class that has come and gone... flying the shorter
wingspan stuff does sharpen your skills, another reason why
I've i
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Title: Re: Why not 2Meter? Re: [RCSE] What's your favorite contest/gathering
format?
Thanks Daryl,
I rest my case.
Seriously - to be competitive in 2M you
have to have a decent airplane (there are notable exceptions but most of
us aren't them). For MOST of us this special 2M pla
Oh, ow! ow! ow! ow! ow??!!!
I've sat here on the sidelines for what, 4 years now, watching sporadic
attacks on 2-meter. "Just grin and bear it" has been my mantra.
But now, our national champ comes out and says 2-meter's suck?? Ow, oW OW!!!
How many of you got started with a 2-meter? When
Check is in the mail!
John
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] What's your favorite contest/gathering format?
I only have one issue with the MOM format as it
currently scored
The details of serious contesting has been gone over ad infinitim here in
the past, so I won't reiterate my views...
But, I'll give an example of a great gathering of people for soaring that I
participated in last weekend as an example of a fun weekend. Last week I
headed down to Brazil, the seco
Is the Nats F3J being used as the team trial this year or is there a
separate event?
Wiggle your sticks
David Judson
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John,
You are right about psuedo sandbagging that can occure in MOM,
especially when you are launching a large group, BUT! Dayton is who started
this MOM craze with our part of the world, and they use to have simultaneous
(within a 10 second window), and there is some bad scenes there too. I
Daryl Perkins wrote:
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Reminds me of '02 when i E.D.'d the Nats, and we went to the landing circle instead of the long tra
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