l set of utility plans is made available the calcs
will be adjusted accordingly. At this point I like the idea of going
with the more stringent of the two ideas.
I appreciate all the help, and thanks Todd for pointing out the obvious
fact that I missed about the static pressure.
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I don't know where the mains will be. There is no location yet, I have
only guessed at what I think they will do.
They haven't located where hydrants will be. All I have is the loop
around the building and that there will be piping from the pump house.
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x27;m just going to use the numbers from the pump test and re-verify
everything at a future date.
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Yes, there is a roof deck above that is sprinklered. I have put
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I have
e member (1 1/2") or the width between
openings (15/16") or the actual thickness on the material (1/4")?
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Craig,
Yep, not even pdf's of the building. At least I could work off those.
As one person just told me, "all I need is a bigger hammer".
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I was sent a project with a Navisworks file (nwd). I am being told that
this is all there is, that there are no other files. No CAD, nothing.
Has anyone else run into this? If so, how do you use the NWD file to
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Does anyone have a detail for how to hang to SIPS panels.
I have looked at four or five manufactures and none of them have hanging
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if it is 1' to <18"
than it can be no more than 2-1/2" above the tee, and etc
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I have 18” wide concrete beams extending 24” from the bottom of t
23.4.4.2.5.
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On 2/8/2024 9:54 AM, Matt Grise wrote:
We are looking at an auto repair facility that has a very small tire
storage room (apx 300sf). The tire storage space is open on one side
to the misc parts st
Actually, I was thinking "ahh, the good ol' days". LOL
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On 8/17/2023 2:20 PM, AKS-Gmail-IMAP wrote:
Very well put Joan. I sadly bet every guy on this forum did not notice
this.
On Aug 17, 2023, at 12:45 PM, Joan Leedy wrote:
Huh - no women!😂
Sent from my
It is added at the point of connection. So wherever your line connects
to the existing system you add an inside hose demand at the most remote
point of connection. Basically, in your case it will be the point that
you have connected to the existing grid.
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On 8/7/2023 1:21 PM, Fpdcdesign wrote:
I am working on a wood framed residential building, with some steel
columns, that has a full 13 system (Type V-B construction). The steel
columns are 4” diameter and ar
13D has a section that states that it is permissible to use Residential
sprinklers outside of their listings in circumstances like yours (see
8.1.3.1.2, 2016). You may need to a four sprinkler calc instead of 2,
if I remember correctly.
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Tony,
Never mind. I should have read everything. It says for Residential
Applications only.
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carports, porte cocheres, and stairs that are open and attached"?
The ANNEX shows examples that are all pass through corridors. So, I'm
questioning myself about the dead end style.
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ndent from one another. So my
question is, do we need to include a hose allowance in the hydraulic
calculations?
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be omitted,
does this make it's not fully sprinklered? No. It is sprinklered
throughout per the requirements of that standard.
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ir spec and NFPA 13 (16 ed.)
20.3.3, hope it helps a little bit.
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at there can be more than one criteria for any given area. Yours
just happens to involve two different types of systems each with their
own specific area/density criteria.
I hope you get this worked out,
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above. It's a pain in the neck but other than one more step in the
calc that's it.
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s not exceed the limits of 9.3.4.
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Sprigs do not require sway bracing, but there is this: 9.3.6.6 Sprigs 4
ft or longer shall be restrained against lateral movement.
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That was my answer, I was just hoping.
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I've been doing this for a while, so I'm about to ask a question that I
think I know the answer too.
I'm just hoping for a different answer.
Is schedule 40 threaded piping 2-1/2" and smaller required to be sway
braced? What about 3" threaded?
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Probably because the DV-5 is a TYCO valve and not Viking.
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Does anyone have a 3D block of Vikings DV-5 Deluge Valve in 3 & 4"?
I can only find Revit files on their site, and I don't have Revit, so I
would need dwg if possible.
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why would this be any different? The domestic demand
needs to be added only when sharing the water supply from the same line for
each individual building. This is not a collective requirement.
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JD, I'm not working out of the 19 version yet, but this criteria has been
the same or similar for some time.
So, the answer is the sprinklers are not required when meeting the
conditions you mentioned.
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One of my top three favorite answers:
1) Because I'm the AHJ.
2) Because I said so.
3) It's in the book.
Joking aside. Find out what "book". I'm not aware of additional clearances
other than the electrical.
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ts of Table Q."
This would include when passing through holes in TJI type joist.
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Thanks for the input.
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Based on the limited info that I have, it's open. I'll look at FM and see
what they offer.
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I've been having email issues the last two days, so I'll try this again:
Would a tire carousel be considered a fixed rack without solid shelves when
choosing ESFR options from Table 18.4(d), 2016 ed.
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I just didn’t use the entire number. It seemed obscene for what’s being
protected.
But, technocrats are on the job, so the actual number came in at 306 gpm.
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The spec is demanding 8.0K for the LH areas.
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Yep, it’s actually 14 sprinklers. Bunch of small compartments.
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So, in this case I’m discharging over 200 gpm due to the number of sprinklers
in the area. Based on this I shouldn’t need to add any additional flow,
correct?
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about the run on sentences, just confused.
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Never mind, I just found it.
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es it. This is tire
storage on racks with ESFR sprinklers. The system requires a hose allowance
of 250 gpm. Do I add 100 as inside and 150 as outside, or just ignore it
all together?
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being cited.
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I have a warehouse with an area designated for assembling wall panels that
are then delivered to the job site.
There are no finished enclosures present which would make it a EH2.
Is OH2, wood product assembly, appropriate for this?
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Jerry,
I've used this allowance several times. I've always placed them as you
describe on the 40' and 80' intervals.
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ting
and a 1.5-hour wall rating with 6-inch panels.
I'm assuming based on the fire rating that sprinklers will not be required.
Would this require sprinklers?
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Good catch, I searched for that and for whatever reason didn't find it.
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sizes (without restriction)
are permitted.
My guess is the AHJ is remembering some really old information and simply
hasn't been brought up to speed.
It may help to show the AHJ NFPA 1999, 9-1.3 and then explain that this
section has been removed going forward.
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Bob K
Individual sprinklers, though the branch lines are on risers.
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e bottom, but what do I
use for the horizontal support of the riser piping?
Can a riser clamp be welded to the top to create the saddle?
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nt that it
can be.
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Thanks Steve. I get the high point part. This system is all one
elevation, but sprigs are being used. Do I put the air vent on one of the
sprigs, and is the most remote branch line the appropriate location?
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re a "best practice" that is being used?
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900 mm) or less in
width without a lintel is permitted when there are no other openings to
adjoining spaces.
Based on this definition, does the bathroom door to the sleeping area
qualify as "opening to adjoining spaces", thereby requiring a sprinkler in
the bathroom?
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Michael, LOL! The best thing about BIM modeling is the extra money it
generates. Once out in the field the plumbers, HVAC, and sparky’s all act like
they’ve never heard of such a beast, but that’s only because sprinklers guys
are all pure as the driven snow.
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Travis,
The only thing I can think of is where there is to be a 2” clearance to
structural that isn’t supporting piping. The AHJ could be confused as to what
is structural and what isn’t.
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ts. See NFPA
13-2013 Section 23.1.3 (37)".
There is no isometric requirement in NFPA 13 that I'm aware of. It seems
like this is the information in the calculations that would correspond to
the hydraulic node points on the drawing.
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>From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37) Relative elevations of sprinklers,
junction points, and supply or reference points.
This is probably an obvious question, but not to me. What is this asking
for?
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s I commodity.
Does this sound correct?
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Not sure where the original came from, but here is one that I modified and
use.
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Thanks Ken. What you have described is what I have always done. Just seems
like theres a gap here. Theres table after table for concrete but not for
wood. I guess concrete rules in the seismic world.
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Since NFPA 13 requires me to use a through bolt in timber for sway bracing,
what weight should I use? The chart stops at 3-1/2 for ½ and 5-1/2 for
the others.
Do I use the weight for 3-1/2 even when I have a 8-3/4 beam?
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Yes to the friction loss through the BFP and WM, but no basis for the 4
sprinkler calc. Only two are required unless FL has adopted a 4 sprinkler 13D
calc.
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All the casinos I’ve worked on are in Nevada. They have all been OH1 based on
state ordinance, to the best of my recollection.
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NFPA 25 does not require the inspection of sprinklers in concealed spaces,
so that should not be an issue.
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the plane of the airplane and achieve the proper spacing.
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Where corrosion and/or contamination is an issue, I've used stainless steel
piping and fittings. Depending on the hazard, CPVC may be an option as
well.
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"It is the designed purpose of
sprinklers to spray the walls. There is no sprinkler designed that will not
spray the wall. If the elevator controls are an issue address it with the
electrical portion of the project".
I haven't heard back yet, but this was a first.
Thank you
It's been a while since I have had to do this, but when it was done we added
sprinklers as if we were doing localized protection. Maybe that's something
you can do as well with AHJ approval?
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rque. Nuts shall be hexagon type conforming to ASME B18.2.2, ASTM
A193/A193M, Grade 5 or ASTM A563, Grade C3 or DH3. Washers shall meet the
requirements of ASTM F436.
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I agree Travis. I have a project where I included them and they are now
trying to eliminate them.
Just trying to get my ducks in a row.
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deck projections are constructed with aluminum materials.
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I took that test over ten years ago. So, I don’t remember specific questions,
but it was geared towards NFPA 13 for the most part.
The test itself was simple enough. I think they allotted two hours, but it only
took about twenty or so minutes to complete.
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I have decided to just calc 1500 sf with a C-factor of 100. It's a small
system so it won't be a huge impact.
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks Bruce. It's been several years since I've done a single preaction.
The last one was for the Corp of Engineers so everything was spelled out in
steroids.
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One of the biggest impacts is that calculating as a dry system means you
have to increase remote area size by 30%, but you don't have to do that if
you can calculate as wet.
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dition, but I can't find anything. What exactly does it mean to be able to
calculate as a wet pipe system?
Do I use C120, Design Area Reduction for QR, etc.?
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I have an attic that has 2
ables to match
the Pr and weight.
Am I looking at this correctly?
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Looking at this, it states, "It is the intent of this design/utilization to
satisfy the requirements of all piping systems including CPVC". Do any of
you know is this valve listed for use with CPVC? It's listed for 13D & 13R,
but I didn't find anything specific to CPVC other then the note above.
That's a good question Todd. I've always assumed rated flow even though many,
as you mention, do show the max flow. I didn't read this nor was I told to do
it that way, I just always have. This will be good info when we get the answer.
Bob
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NON-STRUCTURAL wood.
Roland
On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Bob Knight wrote:
> One thing to look into is that a limited amount of combustibles can be
> present in an otherwise noncombustible space without the need to add
> sprinklers. NFPA 13, 2010, 8.15.1.2.1
>
> bOB
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ith the results of the fire test.
Have a fire safe day.
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One thing to look into is that a limited amount of combustibles can be present
in an otherwise noncombustible space without the need to add sprinklers. NFPA
13, 2010, 8.15.1.2.1
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I have just finished reading a UL test report prepared for Anheuser Busch
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e of? The storage is 20' solid pile
with the sides shrink wrapped but not encapsulated over the top.
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You know, it's moments like these that helps me to enjoy the forum. If we
didn't have these terse moments of bickering it just wouldn't be one big happy
family. Months of monotonous professionalism broken up by days of name calling
and finger pointing. Fun stuff!
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Subject: Re: Check valve location on a long FDC run
Bob,
Pay attention to George. Being a heck of a nice guy is his MO just before he
eats you alive. Beware of the Coastie.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bob Knight wrote:
> I've spoken to Roland many times. Heck of a nice guy.
>
-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bob Knight
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:53 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Check valve location on a long FDC run
Now, now Ron, I wouldn't expect this tone from such an esteemed gentleman and
scholar such as yourself.
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Now, now Ron, I wouldn't expect this tone from such an esteemed gentleman and
scholar such as yourself.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:44 PM
To:
Todd,
No apologies necessary. I'm a card carrying member of PETA (People Eating
Tasty Animals), and in no way was I ever offended.
Bob Knight
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Wil
Depends on local ordinance. We have a 5' aff rule in regard to valves and
BFP's.
Bob
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:05 AM
To: sprinklerforum@fir
I believe that it's 6' min from the edge not max. 2010 it's been reduced to 5'
min.
BK
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Medina Jr
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:11 PM
To: Sprinkler
So, now I'm really baffled. If I follow this whole thread it seems that the
consensus would be one level calc'ed only verifying which level has the
greatest demand. In my case the sprinklers at the ceiling will be the greatest
demand simply due to number and configuration of sprinklers. The c
Thanks Ron, your rants are almost always amusing and though provoking, this one
was no exception. Because of this I've gone back and re-thought the whole
concept of obstructions, clouds, etc... and have decided to play a really
little engineer. Like George, I only do this for television realit
iously be calc'ing all the uprights w/in the design area, but what
>about the pendent's in the clouds? Do I calc all the ceiling cloud heads w/in
>the DA? Two heads?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob Knight
>(208) 639-
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 2:52 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Cloud Calculations
I would say yes to adding the two heads to the calc.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bob K
the design area, but what
about the pendent's in the clouds? Do I calc all the ceiling cloud heads w/in
the DA? Two heads?
Thanks,
Bob Knight
(208) 639-8790 Direct Phone
(208) 639-8791 Direct Fax
(208) 994-1439 Cell
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ht of 6'-8".
Lamar Vaughn,SET
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Bob Knight wrote:
> Steve, I understand that you measure from the point nearest on the
> valve or other component, but then do you measure to the nearest point
> on the stair such as the railing?
>
> Bob
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